180 kAraN kyA? svabhAvase to shuddha hI hai, parantu paryAyamen ashuddhatA hai isaliye use puruShArtha chalatA hai. andar sab khyAl hai. yathArtha tattvArtha shraddhAn karake bhedagnAnakA abhyAs karanA hai. tattvArtha shraddhAn kiye binA main bhinna-bhinna hUn, karatA rahe to shuShkatAkI bAt nahIn chalatI. sab ho jAy, phir kahe, main bhinna hUn. aise bolanekI bAt nahIn hai. rAgamen ekatvabuddhi ho aur phir kahe, main bhinna hUn. andarase yathArtha bhAvarUp use ho ki main bhinna hUn, virakta hokar bhinna paDatA hai, bhinnatA karake.
... sinhake bhavamen samyagdarshan prApta kiyA. phir Age-Age dashA prApta (hotI hai). munidashA aur bAdamen kevalagnAn paryant pahunch gaye hain. usake bAd sab sAdhanAke hI bhav hai. samyagdarshan honeke bAd Unche-Unche (bhav hI hai). munidashA angIkAr karate hain, phir devakA bhAv, usake bAd sAdhanAke Unche-Unche bhav karake kevalagnAnakI prApti karate hain. usake pahale kitanI hI bhav hue hain, lekin sinhake bhavake bAd ArAdhanAke bhAv hue hain. gurudevane is panchamakAlamen, samyagdarshan kise kahate hain, Adi sab batAyA. ... nav tattvakI shraddhA vah samyagdarshan, aisA mAnate the. svAnubhUti samyagdarshan kaun samajhatA thA? gurudevane samyagdarshan kise kahate hain? munidashA kise kahate hain? kevalagnAn kise kahate hain? sab gurudevane batAyA hai.
mumukShu- mAtAjI! munikI bhAShA sinh kaise samajh gayA?
samAdhAna- samajh gayA. muni kis prakArake kaise bhAvase bol rahe hain, vah samajh gaye. AtmA hai na sinha. aur us prakArakA kShayopashamagnAn andarase pragaT ho gayA. munikI bhAShA aur unake bhAv parase grahaN kar liyA. aisI grahaN karanekI shakti unamen A gayI. tIrthankarakA jIv hai. unamen aisA grahaN karanekI shakti (pragaT ho gayI). bhale sinh the to bhI unhen grahaN karanekI shakti koI alag thI.
mumukShu- gurudev yAd Ate hain ki tIrthankarakA jIv the.
samAdhAna- gurudev tIrthankarake jIv the. tIrthankarakA jIv yAnI svayam... gurudevane is panchamakAlamen padhArakar... sthAnakavAsImen the, svayamne kyA satya hai, yah sab nakkI karake parivartan kiyA.
mumukShu- jaise tIrthankar svayambodhit hote hain, vaise gurudev svayambodhit the.
samAdhAna- hAn, vaise svayambodhit the. svayamne apaneAp sab nakkI kiyA.
mumukShu- paNDit aisA kahate the, unake koI guru nahIn hai aur aisA gnAn kahAnse AyA? aisA ek paNDit kalakattAmen kahate the.
samAdhAna- svayambuddha hai, tIrthankarakA jIv hai. svayam mArga chalAnevAle hain.
mumukShu- mArga pravartak hain.