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mumukShu- siddha avasthA prApta honeke bAd yah antatattva hai yA bAhya tattva hai?
samAdhAna- siddhadashAko prApta kare to antar tattva hai. siddhakA svarUp to antatattva hai. niyamasAramen kuchh aisA..
muumukShu- nav tattva bahitattva hai. nij ek hI anta tattva hai. siddhadashA siddha apekShAse antatattva hai aur paryAy apekShAse bAhya kahanemen AtA hai.
mumukShu- ek daphe siddha honeke bAd bhI usamen rajobadal hotA rahatA hai kyA? paryAyakA to...
samAdhAna- siddhadashA to antatattva hI hai. anta, bAhya samajhanamen bahut mushkipal hogA.
mumukShu- paNDitajI sAhabane samajhAyA, lekin Apake mukhase samajhe to thoDA...
samAdhAna- bhItaramen lIn ho gayA siddhakI dashA, kevalagnAn prApta ho gayA, vikalpa sab TUT gaye. samyagdarshan samyagdRuShTi jo hotA hai... darshanakI apekShAse darshanake viShayamen paryAy gauN hotI hai, dravya mukhya rahatA hai. isakI apekShAse bAhya aur abhyantar aisA kahanemen AtA hai. bAkI gnAn sab jAnatA hai. paryAy hai, dravya hai. paryAy aur dravya, sab dravyakA svarUp hai. siddhakA svarUp hai. usako sab anta hI hai.
... jaisA apanA shubhabhAva. shubhabhAv hove to puNya bandhe. pariNAmake Upar puNya hai. darshan karake pariNAm achchhe hove te puNya bandhe, pariNAm idhar-Udhar chalA jAtA hai to...
mumukShu- koI bhI kharAb pariNAm...
samAdhAna- pariNAm dUsarA hotA hai to.. pariNAm achchhA hotA hai to puNya bandhatA hai. Atma svarUpakI prApti to nahIn hotI aur shubhabhAv hotA hai, puNya bandha (hotA hai). sAmAnya puNya bandha hotA hai. kyonki apane AtmAkA svarUp to pahachAnatA nahIn hai. tIrthamen phire, AtmA svarUp-tIrtha to pIchhAne nahIn, Atma-tIrthako aur tIrtha-tIrthamen phire to kyA? shubhabhAv hotA hai. shubhabhAv rakhe to puNyabandha hotA hai.
mumukShu- ... vahAn jo AdamI rahate hain, jo jainiyon... unake bhAv halake rahate hain, tIrthankShetramen, aisA kyon?
samAdhAna- aisA ekAnta nahIn hotA hai. sabake bhAv (aise nahIn hotA).
mumukShu- panchamakAlake hisAbase...?
samAdhAna- panchamakAlamen sabake bhAv aise nahIn hote.
mumukShu- aisA niyam nahIn hai.
samAdhAna- aisA niyam nahIn hai. sabakA bhAv aise rahate hain? jaisI yogyatA hotI