300 bhī kām karatā hai aur dr̥ṣṭi bhī nirvikalpapane anubhūtimeṁṁ kām karatī hai. isaliye pramāṇajñān... use anubhūti huyī use śuddhanay kahanemeṁ ātā hai. śuddha paryāy pragaṭ huyī, śuddhatākā viṣay grahaṇ kiyā, us rūp pariṇati hai, isaliye śuddhanay kahanemeṁ ātā hai, śuddha anubhūti hai isaliye. aur use pramāṇ bhī kahate haiṁ. kevalajñān pragaṭ huā use pramāṇ bhī kahanemeṁ ātā hai. kevalajñān pūrṇa ho gayā. dravya aur paryāy sab.. paryāy pūrṇa huyī, kevalajñānako pramāṇ kahanemeṁ ātā hai. aur sāthameṁ nay to hai hī, parantu nirvikalpa.. anubhūtimeṁ bhī nay aur pramāṇ sāthameṁ hote haiṁ. savikalpa dhārāmeṁ jitanī pariṇati pragaṭ huī, usameṁ bhī nay aur pramāṇ sāth hote haiṁ.
mumukṣuḥ- mātājī! jab anubhav ho tabhī lāgū paḍe na, saccā pramāṇajñān to.
samādhānaḥ- anubhav ho tabhī lāgū paḍatā hai. savikalpa, usakā upayog bāhar hai to bhī usakā jñān kām karatā hai. jitanī dravya par dr̥ṣṭi hai aur jñān sāthameṁ, ye vibhāv hote haiṁ vah maiṁ nahīṁ hūn̐, maiṁ caitanyarūp hū̃n. yah maiṁ nahīṁ hūn̐, maiṁ caitanyarūp hū̃n. aisī jātakī bhedajñānakī dhārā calatī rahatī hai. savikalpatāmeṁ jitanī bhūmikā cauthī, pān̐cavī, chaṭhṭhī, sātavīṁko jñān jānatā hai. jānanekā kārya to usakā sāth hī hai. dravyako bhī jānatā hai, paryāyako bhī jānatā hai. jānanekā kām sāth hī hai.
mumukṣuḥ- vah anubhavake bādakā pramāṇajñān huā na?
samādhānaḥ- hān̐, vah anubhav honeke bādakā.
mumukṣuḥ- usake pahale to pramāṇajñān nahīṁ kah sakate na?
samādhānaḥ- saccā pramāṇajñān (nahīṁ hai).
mumukṣuḥ- lāgū nahīṁ paḍatā hai na?
samādhānaḥ- nahīṁ. anubhavake bād hī sacamūcameṁ nay aur pramāṇ tab lāgū paḍatā hai. anubhavake bād bhale savikalpameṁ ho yā nirvikalpameṁ ho, anubhavake bād, tabhī saccā pramāṇ aur saccī nay lāgū paḍatī hai. usake pahale to sab niścay, vicār karatā hai. pramāṇakī saccī pariṇati yā nayakī saccī pariṇati usake pahale pragaṭ nahīṁ huyī hai. mātra vah abhyās karatā hai.
.. nay aur pramāṇ sāthameṁ hī hote haiṁ. aur nirvikalpameṁ to vikalpa rahit nirvikalpapane hai.
mumukṣuḥ- nay aur pramāṇase rahit hai, nirvikalpa anubhavake kālameṁ.
samādhānaḥ- hān̐, nirvikalpa anubhavake kālameṁ. use apekṣā-se śāstrameṁ śuddhanay kaho, śuddha anubhūti kaho, use pramāṇ kaho. vah sab kahanemeṁ ātā hai. vah nirvikalparūp hai. gurudavane mahā upakār kiyā hai. cāroṁ or-se spaṣṭa kar-karake batāyā hai.