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samādhānaḥ- .. man-se ho aisā nahīṁ hai, saṁvar to sahaj hai. jisakī sahaj daśā hai use sahaj saṁvar hī hai. manako rokanā, manako rokanā vah to vyavahār-se paribhāṣā hai. andar saṁvarasvarūp jo svayaṁ pariṇamit ho gayā hai, bhedajñānarūp, use sahaj saṁvar hī hai. vigrahagatimeṁ jo samyagdarśan lekar jāy to use jo sahaj bhedajñān hai, use manake sāth sambandha hotā hai, aisā to kuch nahīṁ hai. isaliye use saṁvar to sāthameṁ hotā hai. ... saṁvar to hotā hai. saṁvar to vigrahagatimeṁ hotā hai. munioṁko viśeṣ saṁvar (hotā hai). cāritra apekṣā-se saṁvarakī bāt hai. gupti-se saṁvar hotā hai.
mumukṣuḥ- ... ānandakā anubhav kyā hogā? phir āṭh hī din vahān̐ par kyoṁ rahe?
samādhānaḥ- āṭh din use to bhagavān mil gaye. unakā śarīr alag, videhakṣetrakā śarīr alag, vahān̐-ke saṁyog alag, unakī munidaśā, munidaśā to aṁtarameṁ-se pālanī hai, parantu unakā śarīr kitanā? pān̐casau dhanuṣakā śarīr, vahān̐ mahāvideh kṣetrameṁ kitane baḍe śarīr hote haiṁ. un sabake sāth.. munidaśā pālanī vah sab mel (nahīṁ baiṭhatā). āṭh din-se jyādā rah nahīṁ sake. dev hī unheṁ vāpas yahān̐ choḍ gaye, aisā kahā jātā hai.
cāritradaśā andar munidaśā hai na. jyādā rahanā muśkipal hai, āhār-pānīkī dikkat ho jāya. ek bālak jaise dikhe. itane baḍe śarīr hote haiṁ. muni haiṁ, andarameṁ chaṭhaveṁ- sātaveṁ guṇasthānameṁ jhulate haiṁ. paṁc mahāvratakā pālan karanā, sab dikkat hotī hai. munidaśāke yogya,.. vahān̐kā āhār hajam honā hī muśkil paḍe, aise śarīravāleko.
mumukṣuḥ- saṁvar, nirjarā aur mokṣako paryāy bolā hai. to paryāy bolā hai to ātmā to śuddha trikālī dhruv svabhāv jo hai, vah to muktirūp-svarūp hī hai, to usako paryāyakī apekṣā-se saṁvar, nirjarā, mokṣa kahanemeṁ ātā hai?
samādhānaḥ- śuddhātmā to dravyadr̥ṣṭi-se dekho to śuddhātmā to anādiananta mokṣasvarūp- muktasvarūp hai. usameṁ saṁvar, nirjarā sādhakakī paryāy kahanī vah vyavahār hai. parantu vah usakī paryāy hai. kyoṁki saṁvar, nirjarā sab sādhakakī paryāy hai. usameṁ pahale saṁvar