Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration).

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ho jAy, vah vAstavame.n karane jaisA hai.

vah kaise pragaT ho? usIkA abhyAs karane jaisA hai. svaya.nme.n ekatvabuddhi, parase vibhakta hokar svaya.n svaya.nme.nse pragaT hotA hai. usame.n hI use vishrAm mile, usIme.n use shAnti mile aisA hai. yadi anAdikI use thakAn lage to a.ntarame.n hI vishrAm (hai). Ananda, j~nAn sab a.ntarame.n bharA hai. bAhar kahI.n lene jAnA nahI.n paDegA.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! anubhUtisvarUp bhagavAn AtmA kahakar kyA kahanA chAhate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- anubhUti arthAt svaya.n chaitanya chaitanyarUp anubhavame.n A rahA hai. arthAt usakA mUl svabhAv, jo usakI nidhi-use mUl svabhAvarUpakA khyAl nahI.n hai. parantu chetanatA chetanatArUp anubhavame.n AtI hai. anAdi kAl huA to vah jaD nahI.n ho gayA hai. j~nAn j~nAnarUp anubhavame.n A rahA hai. vah svaya.n lakShya kare to j~nAn j~nAn hI hai. j~nAn miT nahI.n giyA hai. j~nAn j~nAnarUp anubhavame.n A rahA hai. usakA mUl svAnubhav jo usakA shuddha svabhAv hai, vah use khyAlame.n nahI.n hai. parantu usakI chetanatA to chetanArUp anubhavame.n A rahI hai.

mumukShuH- anubhUtisvarUp bhagavAn AtmA yAnI j~nAyak lenA hai?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAyaka. pUrA j~nAyak anubhUtirUp hI hai. anubhUti yAnI usake svabhAvakA mUl Ananda hai, aisA nahI.n hai. parantu vah j~nAyak j~nAyakarUp hI rahA hai. pararUp nahI.n huA hai. usakA asAdhAraN svabhAv jo j~nAyakatA hai, vah j~nAyakatA j~nAyakatArUp rahA hai, pararUp nahI.n huA hai. apanerUp anubhavame.n A rahA hai. svaya.n apaneme.n hI rahA hai. bAhar vAstavik rUpase nahI.n gayA hai.

mumukShuH- aj~nAnI jIvo.nko bhI sadA j~nAyak hI anubhavame.n AtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- sadA j~nAyak arthAt j~nAyakatA, j~nAyakarUp pariNaman nahI.n hai. parantu usakA astitva j~nAyak, j~nAyakarUpakA astitva hai. usakA lakShya nahI.n hai. lakShya bAhar jAtA hai. parantu chetanatA chetanatArUp hI sphurAyamAn hai. ye jaD to kuCh jAnatA nahI.n. ye chetan chetanatArUp sphurAyamAn anubhavarUp hai.

mumukShuH- sadA kAl?

samAdhAnaH- sadAke liye chaitanya chaitanyarUp hI hai. samatA, ramatA, UrdhvatA. usakA ramya svabhAv hai, j~nAyak svabhAv hai, usakA vah sab svabhAv sphurAyamAn hai. lekin use pragaT anubhav-anubhUti nahI.n hai. svabhAvarUp anubhavame.n A rahA hai. use khyAl nahI.n AtA hai. ... chetanatA chetanatArUp anubhUtirUp hai. mUl use apane svabhAvakI anubhUti nahI.n hai. lakShyame.n le to pragaT ho aisA hai.

mumukShuH- aj~nAnIko bhI sadAkAl bhagavAn AtmA hI anubhavame.n AtA hai?