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samAdhAnaH- hA.N, hA.N. aj~nAnIko bhI sadAkAl bhagavAn AtmA hI anubhUtisvarUp hai. svaya.n hI hai. lekin use lakShyame.n nahI.n letA hai.
mumukShuH- lakShyame.n nahI.n AnekA koI kAraN?
samAdhAnaH- lakShyame.n nahI.n lenekA kAraN anAdike abhyAsake kAraN par-or dR^iShTi hai. parako apanA mAnatA hai. mAno.n mai.n parako jAnatA hU.N, svaya.n apanI or jAnanekA prayatna nahI.n karatA hai, apanI pratIti nahI.n karatA hai. j~nAnakI dishA apanI or nahI.n moDatA hai. svaya.nkI pratIti nahI.n karatA hai. lInatA apanI or nahI.n karatA hai. par- or j~nAn, pratIt, AcharaN sab par or jAtA hai.
samAdhAnaH- .. gurudevane bahut samajhAyA hai.
mumukShuH- vah to Ap kahate ho, gurudevako hamane sunA thA. lekin ab jyAdA samay ho gayA isaliye bhUlanekI prakR^iti ho gayI hai, isaliye bhUl jAte hai.n.
samAdhAnaH- Apane to bahut sunA aur bahut grahaN kiyA hai.
mumukShuH- mai.n to kahatA hU.N, bahut nahI.n, sab sunA hai. usame.n merI svIkR^iti hai.
samAdhAnaH- ... pahachAnanekA kahA hai. j~nAyak AtmAkA pariNaman karaneko kahA hai.
mumukShuH- barAbar hai. use kaise pahachAnanA, yah bAt hai.
samAdhAnaH- svAnubhUti karaneko gurudevane kahA hai.
mumukShuH- j~nAyakako mukh to hai nahI.n.
samAdhAnaH- mukh nahI.n hai, parantu lakShaNase pahichAnanA. lakShaNase pahachAnanekA gurudevane kahA hai. usakA lakShaN pahichAnanA. j~nAyak lakShaN pahachAname.n AtA hai. usakI pariNati karaneko kahA hai.
mumukShuH- lekin jaise .. indriyo.nse dikhe nahI.n, manase usakA kuCh nakkI hotA nahI.n, ab karanA kaise?
samAdhAnaH- svaya.n hai na, anya nahI.n hai. isaliye svaya.n apanese pahachAname.n AtA hai. svaya.n apane lakShaNase..
mumukShuH- svaya.n apanese pahachAname.n AtA hai. usakA sAdhan indriy to nahI.n hai. usakA sAdhan man nahI.n hai. apanI paryAy apane sanmukh ho tab AtmAko pahichAnA kahA jAya. lekin paryAyako apanI or moDanI kaise?
samAdhAnaH- svaya.n hI moD sakatA hai.
mumukShuH- moD to svaya.n hI sakatA hai. dUsarA koI vajubhAI moD de?
samAdhAnaH- .. batAyA hai aur moDaneko kahA hai. vah karanekA hai.
mumukShuH- gurudevakA mahA upakAr hai.