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mumukShuH- gurudev kahate the ki j~nAn parako jAnatA hI nahI.n hai. to ham kare.n kyA?
samAdhAnaH- gurudev aisA nahI.n kahate the, parako nahI.n jAnatA hai aisA nahI.n kahate the. gurudev kahate the, svaparaprakAshak j~nAn hai. shAstrame.n aisA AtA hai. svaparaprakAshak j~nAnakA svabhAv hai. par taraph terI ekatvabuddhi hai. parame.n upayog lagatA hai to parako mai.n jAnatA hU.N, svako bhUl gayA hai. svakA j~nAn pragaT kara. parako tU jAnatA nahI.n hai aisA nahI.n hai. svaparaprakAshak j~nAnakA svabhAv hai. jAnanekA haTAnA nahI.n hai, apanI ruchi badalanI hai. upayog palaT de. upayog sva taraph kar le. mai.n j~nAyak svabhAv hU.N. usame.n jo sahaj svabhAv svaparaprakAshak hai, kevalaj~nAname.n svaparaprakAshak svabhAv pragaT hotA hai.
upayog bAhar j~neyame.n lag jAtA hai, j~ney upayukta (hotA hai), j~neyame.n ekamek ho jAtA hai. j~neyame.n ekamek nahI.n honA. bhedaj~nAn karake apane svarUpame.n lIn honA. to apanA svaparaprakAshak j~nAn pragaT hotA hai.
mumukShuH- pUjya mAtAjI! AbAlagopAl sabhIko bhagavAn AtmA jAnaneme.n A rahA hai. thoDA-sA spaShTi kijIye.
samAdhAnaH- AbAlagopAlako jAnaneme.n A rahA hai usakA artha aisA nahI.n hai ki jAnaneme.n A rahA hai isaliye usakI anubhUti ho rahI hai, usakI svAnubhUti ho rahI hai (aisA nahI.n hai). anubhUti aisI ho rahI hai ki svaya.nsiddha AtmA hai. usakA asAdhAraN j~nAnasvabhAv hai. vah j~nAnasvabhAv apane svabhAvarUpase pariNamatA hai, vibhAvarUp nahI.n huA hai. dravyadR^iShTi-se svabhAvarUp pariNamatA hai. AbAlagopAl sab j~nAname.n jAn sakate hai.n. usakA artha aisA nahI.n hai ki usakI anubhUti arthAt samyakaj~nAn ho gayA, aisA usakA artha nahI.n hai.
j~nAnasvabhAv sabako lakShyame.n A sakatA hai. asAdhAraN j~nAnasvabhAv hai. sab jAn sakate haiai.n ki mai.n j~nAnasvabhAv AtmA hU.N. ye jaD kuCh jAnate nahI.n. mai.n jAnanevAlA hU.N, aisI pratIt sab AbAlagopAl kar sakate hai.n. mai.n jAnanevAlA hU.N, ye jaD nahI.n jAnatA hai, mai.n jAnanevAlA hU.N. apane svabhAvarUp j~nAnasvabhAv anAdiananta hai. vah j~nAn jaD nahI.n huA. vah j~nAnasvabhAv AbAlagopAl sab jAn sakate hai.n. j~nAnakI anubhUti hotI hai. yathArtha svabhAvame.n lIn hokar svAnubhUti ho rahI hai, aisA artha nahI.n hai. anubhUti arthAt j~nAn sabako hai. aisA asAdhAraN j~nAnasvabhAv sabako jAnaneme.n AtA hai. usakA artha aisA hai. jaD nahI.n hai. j~nAnasvabhAv sabako anubhavame.n A rahA hai, aisA j~nAnasvabhAv anubhavame.n A rahA hai. samyakarUp-se (A rahA hai), aisA nahI.n. usakA lakShaN, jo lakShaN hai vah AbAlagopAl sab jAn sakate hai.n. aisA usakA j~nAnasvabhAv hai.