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mumukShuH- kaShAyakI kAlimA hai, j~nAname.n nahI.n hai. j~nAname.n kAlimA nahI.n hai?
samAdhAnaH- j~nAname.n kAlimA nahI.n hai, vibhAvakI jo pariNati rAg-dveShavAlI hotI hai, vaisI rAg-dveShakI pariNati j~nAname.n nahI.n hai. j~nAname.n jAnanekA doSh hotA hai. j~nAname.n jAnanekA doSh hai. jo svarUp ho usase anyathA jAne, viparItapane jAne. shraddhAke kAraN j~nAname.n doSh AtA hai. shraddhA alag hai aur j~nAn bhI alag hai. use mithyAj~nAn kahate hai.n.
mumukShuH- chAritraguN jaise viparItapane pariNamatA hai,...
samAdhAnaH- viparItapane pariName aisA viparIt nahI.n hai. parantu use shraddhAkI viparItatA hai. jAnaneme.n viparItatA hai. kaShAyakI kAlimA hai aisA nahI.n hai. isaliye viparIt-viparItame.n pharka hai. isakI viparItatA jAnanekI hai aur usame.n rAgakI pariNatikI hai. kaShAyakI kAlimA malin hai aur us jAtakA malin j~nAnako kahaneme.n Aye, jAnanekI apekShA- se. dono.nkI pariNati alag hai. rAgakI pariNati alag aur shraddhA aur j~nAnakI pariNati alag prakAr-se kAm karatI hai. hai vah bhI viparIt hai. shraddhA mithyA hai isaliye j~nAn bhI mithyA hai.
mumukShuH- Apane aisA kahA thA ki AtmAko nahI.n jAnatA hai, vah usakA- j~nAnakA doSh hai. parantu jaise chAritrame.n kaShAyakI kAlimA hai, vaisI kAlimA isame.n nahI.n hai.
samAdhAnaH- jAnanekA doSh hai. vaisI kAlimA nahI.n hai, jAnanekA doSh hai. muumukShuH- .. j~nAn hai vah bhI ek prakAr-se svabhAvakA a.nsh kahalAtA hai na? samAdhAnaH- svabhAvakA a.nsh arthAt indriyaj~nAn svako nahI.n jAnatA hai isaliye par taraph jAtA hai, parantu vah svabhAv ChoDakar kahI.n bAhar to jAtA nahI.n. vah to mAnatA hai ki mai.n bAhar chalA gayA. svabhAv ChoDakar kahI.n bAhar nahI.n jAtA hai. parantu mAnyatA aisI hai ki mAno.n apanA j~nAn bAhar chalA jAtA hai aur bAhar-se j~nAn AtA hai, aisA mAnatA hai. svabhAvako ChoDakar to kahI.n nahI.n jAtA.
... paDe hI hai.n. bhale nigodame.n ho. svabhAvakA a.nsh to hai, usakA kahI.n nAsh nahI.n hotA. svabhAvakA a.nsh ho, vah j~nAnapane svaya.n jAnatA hai kahA.N? mAno.n bAhar- se j~nAn AtA hai aur mAno.n mai.n bAhar jAtA hU.N. mAnyatA jUThI hai.