Pravach Ratno Part 1-Gujarati (English transliteration). Date: 03-01-1979 Pravachan: 159.

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shrI pravachan ratno-1 11p

gAthA–7p pravachan kramAnk–1pa9 dinAnk 3–1–79

‘have pUchhe chhe’ juo! shiShyanI shailI! shiShye Avun sAmbhaL‌yun tyAre pUchhe chhe’ ke AtmA gnAnasvarUp arthAt gnAnI thayo em kaI rIte oLakhAy? jaNAy shI rIte? enAn lakShaN shun? enAn chinha shun? enAn endhAN shun?

AhA... hA! enAn (gnAnInAn) lakShaN, chinha, endhAN shun? em shiShyano prashna chhe, ane uttar devAmAn Ave chhe.

AhA... hA! chothe guNasthAnethI jagatano sAkShI thAy chhe. TIkA ‘nishchayathI moh, rAg, dveSh, sukh, dukh AdirUpe antarangamAn utpanna thatun je karmanun pariNAm’ -A (kahyun) chhe I karma, jaDakarmanA pariNAm chhe em e loko kahe chhe. AnhI to nishchayathI andar je mohanA pariNAm thAy (bhAvakarma chhe)

(shrotA) jaDakarmanA e (loko) kahe chhe? (uttara) hA, I karam-karam e jaDanA levA. are! bApu tun are bhAI! (shrotA) bhAvakarmanI vAt chhe? (uttara) andaramAn thato je moh - mithyAtva na levun ahInyAn (parantu) parataraphano sAvadhAnIno bhAv levo. ‘rAg, dveSh, sukh, dukh AdirUpe antarangamAn utpanna thatun moh eTale mithyAtva na levun parataraphanI jarI sAvadhAnI thAy chhe asthiratAnI (gnAnIne) eno gnAnI sAkShI chhe.

AhA... hA! ‘nishchayathI moh, rAg eTale par taraphanA pariNAm-eno vistAr... rAg, dveSh, sukh, dukh AdirUpe antarangamAn utpanna thatun je karmanun pariNAm....

AhA...! loko k! kk! kpotAnI kalpanAthI... artha kare! vastusthiti k krahI jAy chhe!! (shrotA) ene - bhAvakarmane jaD kidhAn? (uttara) bhAvakarmane jaD levAn (samajavAn) ‘je karmanun pariNAm’ kahyun chhe ne...! ane nokarma sharIrAdi em.

(shrotA) mAre to em kahevun chhe ke bhAvakarma, dravyakarma, nokarma-badhAn kIdhAn chhe ne? (uttara) nokarma pachhI Avashe, AmAn AvI gyun ne...! badhun AvI gyun! dravyakarmane karmanA pariNAm e badhun karmamAn jAy chhe. e bhAvakarmanun pariNAm chhe- e jaDanun pariNAm chhe I jaDamAn jAy chhe, ethI karma ya AvI gyun ne A e AvI gayun!

AhA.. hA.. hA! bhagavAn AtmA jyArathI jagatano sAkShI thAy chhe, em kahevun chhe ne... !! have, karma (mAn) bhAvakarma, nokarma (dravyakarma) traNey AvI gayA emAn karma chhe ne karmanA nimittathI thatAn mohAdin pariNAm chhe- e beyano I (gnAnI) sAkShI chhe!

AhAhAhA! jhINun chhe bhAI! antarang mArag alaukik chhe! AhA..! emAn A samayasAr!! AhA...! A vAt thaI’ tI tyAn sanAvadamAn! (te kahe) A karma chhe jaD chhe ajIv levA ahIn pariNAm jIvanA na levA.

(ahIn kahe chhe) AnhI to jIvanA pariNAm chhe I karmanA ja pariNAm chhe! jIv to AtmA