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mumukShu- shuddhanayakA viShay trikAlI dravya niShkriy mAne kyA?

samAdhAna- shuddhanayakA viShay trikAlI niShkriy yAnI usamen ek paramapAriNAmikabhAv dravya anAdiananta hai. us par dRuShTi kar, aisA kahanA hai. shuddhanayakA viShay paramapAriNAmikabhAv hai. niShkriy arthAt un sabakA ek hI (bhAv) hai, usamense paryAy nikal nahIn jAtI. tU ek svarUp AtmA hai, us par dRuShTi kar, bas, aisA hI kahanA hai. usamen paryAy hai, parantu tU dravyako pahachAnatA nahIn hai. us par dRuShTi kara. ek shuddhanayakA viShay ek dravyakI mukhyatA hai. niShShkriy ek dravyadRuShTi, usamen kisI bhI prakArakA pheraphAr nahIn hai. pheraphAr rahit ek dravya anAdiananta hai, use tU pahachAn, aisA kahanA hai.

isaliye usamen paryAyakI pariNati athavA usamen koI kArya hI nahIn hotA hai, aisA usakA artha nahIn hotA. siddha bhagavAnamen pariNati hai. siddha bhagavAnamen bhI paryAyen hotI hain. unamen bhI gnAnakI, darshanakI, chAritrakI sab paryAyen siddha bhagavAnamen hain. usamense nikal nahIn jAtI. dravya-guN-paryAy vah vastukA svarUp hai.

ek dravyako pahachAn, dravya par dRuShTi kara. dravyakA Alamban le. dravya par dRuShTi karanese, usakA Alamban lenese us par jor AtA hai. jo paryAy palaTatI hai, us par Ashray nahIn liyA jAtA. Ashray dravya jo anAdiananta shAshvat sthir hai, usakA Ashray liyA jAtA hai. jo palaTatA rahatA hai, usakA Ashray nahIn liyA jAtA. lekin usamense paryAy nikal nahIn jAtI. siddha bhagavAnamen pariNati hotI hai. kevalagnAnakI paryAy, gnAn, darshan, chAritra Adi sab paryAy siddha bhagavAnamen hain. paryAy rahit dravya hai hI nahIn. paryAy rahit dravyakA svIkAr karatA hai, vah dravyakA svarUp jAnatA nahIn hai. paryAy rahit dravya hotA hI nahIn.

parantu paryAyako mukhya karake dravyako bhUl jAtA hai. anAdi kAlase paryAyakI mukhyatA karake dravyako bhUl gayA. isaliye jisakA Ashray liyA jAtA hai, aisA AshrayabhUt jo dravya hai, us dravyako bhUl gayA. isaliye dravyakI mukhyatA karake dravyakA Ashray le. paryAyakA Ashray nahIn liyA jAtA. paryAyako khyAlamen rakh, usakA gnAn kara.

mumukShu- paryAyako gauN karatA hai, paryAy kahIn chalI nahIn jAtI.

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samAdhAna- paryAy vastumense chalI nahIn jAtI. vibhAv chhUT jAtA hai. kyonki vibhAv apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. parantu shuddha paryAy to svayammen rahatI hai.

mumukShu- andar jo ulajhan thI, vah sab nikal gayI. bahut spaShTatA (ho gayI).

samAdhAna- usakA svarUp, chaitanyakA vastukA svarUp koI adbhut hai. AshcharyakArI hai. usakA mel karake samajhanA. to hI muktikA mArga yathArthapane sadhatA hai. samajhanemen dUsarA pahalU samajhe hI nahIn aur nikAl de to yathArtha nahIn AtI. kahAn jor denA hai, kahAn gauN karanA hai, vastuke svarUpako nikAl nahIn denA chAhiye. ... hai, parAshrit bhAv hai, AtmAkA svabhAv nahIn hai.

dravyakI dRuShTise svabhAv sadhatA hai. lekin usamen shuddha paryAyen pragaT hotI hain, usakA vedan svayamko hotA hai. vah shuddha paryAy chaitanyase bhinna nahIn hai. sarvAnshase sarva prakArase vah bhinna rahe athavA dUsare dravyakI bhAnti bhinna alag hai, aisA nahIn hai. chaitanyake Ashrayase hI vah paryAy pragaT hotI hai aur chaitanyako hI usakA-shuddha paryAyakA vedan hotA hai. rAgakI paryAy to vibhAv paryAy hai. kShetra to usakA ek hai, vah kahAn bhinna hai? vibhAv apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. vah to usakA nimitta jaD hai. bAkI jo chaitanyamen paryAy hotI hai, vah dUsare kShetramen nahIn hotI hai, rAgakI paryAya. apekShAse kahanemen AtAaihai.

nimittase hotI hai, jaD karmake nimittase hotI hai, isaliye usakA kShetra bhinna hai, aisA kahanemen AtA hai. sarva prakArase vah jaDamen nahIn hotI hai. rAgakI paryAyako vah TAl nahIn sake, yadi jaDamen hotI ho to. svayamko rAgakI paryAyakA vedan hotA hai. to vah jaD hai kyA? apanA svabhAv nahIn hai, isaliye us apekShAse, karmake nimittase huyI isaliye use pudagalamen DAlakar pudagal kahanemen AtA hai. sarva prakArase vah jaDake kShetramen nahIn hotI hai. vah to apanI pariNatimen hotI hai. use svayam TAl sakatA hai. usakA svabhAvabhed hai. svabhAvabhed hai isaliye use anya kShetrakI kahI jAtI hai. sarva prakArase vah anya kShetrakI nahIn hai. apanI paryAy apanemen vibhAv paryAy hotI hai.

samAdhAna- ... gurudevane mArga kahA hai, vah karanekA hai. is panchamakAlamen guruedav padhAre aur muktikA mArga spaShTa kiyA hai. koI jAnatA nahIn thA. is panchamakAlaman bAhya dRuShTi thI. gurudevane antar dRuShTi karavAyI. muktikA mArga, svAnubhUtikA mArga, munikI dashA, kevalagnAn ityAdi sab gurudevane pragaT kiyA hai. AtmAkI jignAsA, antarase lagan lage, sachamuchamen lagan lage to pragaT hue binA nahIn rahatA. parantu jIvako lagan lagAnI, antaramen ruchi ho, tattvake vichAr karake antaramen gnAyak kaun hai? svayamkA svabhAv kyA hai? antaramense nakkI kare ki main jAnanevAlA gnAyak hI hUn. yah jaD sharIrAdi merA svarUp nahIn hai.

sharIr, man, vachan Adi sab jaD padAthAse main bhinna hUn. yah vibhAvasvabhAv, shubhAshubh

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bhAv bhI merA svarUp nahIn hai. usase bhinna paDakar, antarase bhinna paDakar, vikalpase bhAvanA bhAve alag bAt hai, antarase bhinna hokar bhedagnAn kare to muktikA mArga pragaT hotA hai. bhedagnAn karake antarase lIn ho, usakI shraddhA, usakA gnAn aur lInatA kare to svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. usake liye usakI laganI, jignAsA, bArambAr chaitanyakI mahimA Ave, chaitanyakI ruchi lage, chaitanyatattvakA yathArtha svarUp pahachAne aur vibhAvase virakti ho to antaramen pariNati jhuke, to hotA hai. bAharamen dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, shubhAshubh bhAv donon vibhAv hain, phir bhI shubhabhAvommen dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Aye binA nahIn rahatI aur antaramen shuddhAtmAkI ruchi.

sab vibhAvase AtmA bhinna hai, aisI shuddhAtmAkI ruchi andar honI chAhiye. usakI lagan aur jignAsA lagAye to hue binA nahIn rahatA. kShaN-kShaNamen usakI lagan, jignAsA ho to hotA hai. puruShArthake binA nahIn hotA. gurudevane puruShArtha karaneko kahA hai. chAr gatikA abhAv andar svayam puruShArtha kare to hotA hai. jIv bAharamen aTakA hai, antaramen dRuShTi nahIn kI hai. antar dRuShTi svayamko pahachAne to hotI hai.

mumubhu- Apake AshIrvAedase hamArA .. ho jAyagA. samAdhAna- svayam andar puruShArtha kare to hotA hai. jo bhagavAnako pahachAne vah svayamko pahachAne, gurudevako pahachAne vah svayamko pahachAne. AshIrvAd kahAn lAgU paDate hain? svayam taiyArI kare to AshIrvAed lAgU paDe. parase hotA nahIn, svayam kare to hotA hai.

mumukShu- gRuhastha dashAmen rahakar apaneko shAnti lenI hai to le sakate hai ki nahIn le sakate hain? gRuhastha dashAmen rahate hue bhI AtmAmen shAnti mile, aisA koI upAy batAIye.

samAdhAna- gRuhasthAshramamen rahakar bhI AtmAkA svarUp pahachAnA jAtA hai. gRuhasthAshramamen rahakar (ho sakatA hai). gRuhasthAshram andar AtmAmen ghus nahIn gayA hai. andar shuddhAtmAkI ruchi lage, usakI lagan lage to gRuhasthAshramamen bhI hotA hai. chakravratI, rAjA Adi sab gRuhasthAshramamen rahakar bhinna rahate the. andarase AtmAkI-gnAyakakI dashA pragaT karate the, bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT karate the. gRuhasthAshramamen rahakar bhI muktikA mArga shurU hotA hai, svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. Age lInatA baDhAneke liye munidashA AtI hai. bAkI samyagdarshan to gRuhasthAshramamen bhI hotA hai. andarase bhinna rahe to hotA hai. andar utanI svayamko jignAsA lage aur bhedagnAn kare to gRuhasthAshramamen bhI hotA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! ruchiko kaise baDhAnA chAhiye?

samAdhAna- puruShArtha kare to hotA hai. ruchi bhI svayamko hI baDhAnI hai. tattvagnAn svayamko karanA hai, ruchi svayamko baDhAnI hai, lagan svayamko lagAnI hai, sab svayamko karanA hai. gurudevakI vANI prabal nimitta hai, parantu karanA svayamko hai. puruShArtha svayam

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kare to hotA hai.

mumukShu- AtmAkA chintavan-vichAr karate rahenge to AtmAkI laganI lagegI, aise chintan vichAr karanese?

samAdhAna- chintan, vichAr kare lekin antaramen laganI to svayam lagAye to hotA hai.

mumukShu- Ap kahate ho tab to bahut AsAn lagatA hai ki, AtmA main aisA hUn. lekin pariNamanamen kaThin lagatA hai.

samAdhAna- svayam svabhAv hai isaliye sulabh hai. svayam hI hai, anya nahIn hai. svabhAvase sulabh hai, svabhAv usakA hai. parantu ananta kAlase anAdikA abhyAs hai isaliye kShaN-kShaNamen pariNati vibhAvakI or jAtI hai, ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. isaliye durlabh ho gayA hai. anAdise jo vibhAvakA abhyAs chal rahA hai, usamense bhinna honA use durlabh lagatA hai. svabhAvase sulabh hai.

mumukShu- .. to kalyAN ho jAyagA. aisA avasar, aise bhAvi tIrthankar, bhAvi gaNadhar mile, is panchamakAlamen... janma saphal ho gayA.

samAdhAna- panchamakAlamen gurudev padhAre, tIrthankarakA dravya. mahAbhAgyakI bAt ki gurudevakA sAnnidhya milA. 45-45 sAl vANI barasAyI. ... bahut spaShTa kiyA.

mumukShu- ... AtmA dikhatA nahIn hai, to AtmA kaise dikhe? aisA pUchhate hain.

samAdhAna- andherA dikhatA hai,... AtmA jAnanevAlA gnAyak hai, use pahachAne to andherA yA prakAsh, yah prakAsh bAharakA aur andherA bhI jaDakA hai. andar gnAnamen jAnanevAlA hai use dekhe to vah andhakAr nahIn hai, parantu andar jAnanevAlA hai, andar jAnanevAlI jyAti hai, use pahachAne to hotA hai. vah bAharase dekhatA hai. charma chakShuse dekhe to andherA dikhatA hai aur prakAsh dikhatA hai. andar dekhe ki gnAyak jAnanevAlA kaun hai? use pahachAne to vah gnAnakI jyoti hai. jo andar jAnanevAlA hai, yah sab vikalponko jAnanevAlA, sukh-dukhako jAnanevAlA hai, andaramen jAnanevAlA hai, vedan hai, us vedanake pIchhe jo jAnanevAlA hai, vah svayam hai. jAnanevAlI jyAti andar hai. jAnanevAlemen sab bharA hai. ananta sukh aur ananta Ananda, gnAn sab jAnanevAlemen ananta guN bhare hain. andar jAnanevAlA hai.

samAdhAna- ... ashubhase bachaneko shubhabhAv Ate hain, parantu andar AtmAko pahachAnaneke liye to andar sachchA gnAn, sachchA vairAgya, mahimA sab antaramen honA chAhiye. shubhabhAvase puNya bandhatA hai. parantu AtmAko pahachAne to muktikA mArga pragaT hotA hai. ashubhase bachaneko shubhabhAv Ave, lekin AdaraNIy to ek shuddhAtmA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! Aj sabane nandIshvaramen pUjA kI, darshan kiye, phir sab dekhA.

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un logonko abhI shurUAt hai, isaliye prashna pUchhA ki akRutrim jinAlay kaise? manuShyane to kiye hI nahIn hai na. shAshvat hai.

samAdhAna- pudagalake paramANu vaise... kudaratI rachanA ho jAtI hai. bhagavAnakI mahimA aisI hai. jagatamen jaise bhagavAn sarvotkRuShTa hain, vaise bhagavAnakI pratimA bhI sarvotkRuShTa kudarat batA rahI hai. mandiron, pratimAen sab shAshvat hain. jaise yah parvat Adi kisIne banAye nahIn hain, vah to kudaratI hai. jaise parvat, samudra Adi kisIne banAyA nahIn hai. vaise mandiron bhI kudaratI hain. bhagavAn bhI kudaratI hai. pudagalake paramANu us prakArase ratnakI pratimArUp pariNamit hokar (rachanA huyI hai). kudaratamen shAshvat kisIne banAyA nahIn hai.

mumukShu- sab ratnamaNike hote hain na?

samAdhAna- hAn, ratnamaNike.

mumukShu- aur 500 dehamAnake.

samAdhAna- 500 dehamAnake, 108 pratimAen.

mumukShu- ek mandiramen? ek mandiramen 108?

samAdhAna- aisA hai.

mumukShu- arthAt unakA kabhI virah nahIn hotA, chAhe jo bhI kAl ho to bhI.

samAdhAna- vah to shAshvat hain. nandIshvaramen, merumen sab shAshvat hain.

mumukShu- bhavanavAsIke, Uparake sab...

samAdhAna- hAn, bhavanavAsImen hai, vyantaramen hai, jyotiShImen, vaimAnikamen sabamen hai. usamen koI jaghanya mandir, koI madhyam, koI utkRuShTa (hote hain). kisIkA nAp baDA, koI chhoTe aise hote hain.

mumukShu- usakA matalab sarvagnakA kabhI virah nahIn hai, aisA usamense samajhanA?

samAdhAna- sAkShAt tIrthankar to sadA shAshvat hain. jo tIrthankar virAjate hain, bIs viharamAn, ve to videhakShetramen virAjamAn hote hI hain. unakA bhI kabhI virah nahIn hotA.

mumukShu- unakA kabhI virah nahIn hotA.

samAdhAna- hAn, bIs viharamAn bhagavAn hote hI rahate hain. aur yah kudaratamen jo pratimAen hain, vah bhI shAshvat rahate hain. usakA kabhI virah nahIn hotA.

mumukShu- AtmAkA svarUp bhI shAshvata.

samAdhAna- AtmA shAshvat hai. AtmAkA svarUp shAshvat hai. use bhI kisIne nahIn banAyA hai. AtmA bhI shAshvat hai. AtmAko kisIne banAyA nahIn hai, bhagavAnakI pratimA kisIne nahIn banAyI hai. AtmAko kisIne banAyA nahIn hai. vah bhI shAshvat hai, gnAnasvarUp AtmA bhI shAshvat hai. use pahachAne to pragaT hotA hai. pahachAnatA nahIn hai isaliye pragaT

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nahIn hotA hai. bhrAntike kAraN anAdi kAlase bhav karatA rahatA hai, bhavakA bhramaNa. AtmAko pahachAne to bhavakA abhAv hotA hai.

yah AtmA shAshvat hai, use pahachAne, usakA bhedagnAn kare, us par dRuShTi kare, usakA gnAn kare, usamen lInatA kare to vah pragaT hotA hai. lekin bAhya dRuShTi hai, pratIt bAhar karatA hai, gnAnakA upayog sab bAhar jAtA hai, lInatA sab bAharamen karatA hai. antaramen jAtA nahIn hai, isaliye AtmA pahachAnA nahIn jAtA.

mumukShu- gurudevake pAs, Apake pAs sune tab to aisA lagatA hai, oho..! AtmA to atyant karIb hai. lekin jaise hI bAhar nikalate hain, AtmA kahAn kho jAtA hai. hamAremen kyA kShati hai use samajhanA chAhiye.

samAdhAna- AtmA to apane pAs hI hai. anAdikA abhyAs hai, isaliye upayog bAhar chalA jAtA hai. bAharamen ras hai, utanA AtmAkA ras nahIn lagA hai. AtmAkI mahimA nahIn lagI hai. AtmA sarvotkRuShTa hai, aisA lagA nahIn hai. bAharakA ras hai. mAno bAharamen sabakuchh rasamay kyon na ho, aisA use lagatA hai. bAharakA sab sukhamay, rasamay lagatA hai. antar AtmA sukhamay aur rasamay lagatA nahIn hai. usakI shraddhA nahIn hotI hai, isaliye bAhar dauD jAtA hai. shraddhA hotI hai to Upar-Uparase shraddhA karatA hai, andar gaharAImen jAkar shraddhA kare to antaramen puruShArtha hue binA rahatA nahIn.

mumukShu- vaise to AtmAkI upalabdhi sahaj sAdhya hai aisA bhI kahanemen AtA hai, prayatna sAdhya hai aisA bhI kahanemen AtA hai. to dononkA mel kaise hai?

samAdhAna- usakA svabhAv hai, isaliye sahaj sAdhya hai. vah bAharase nahIn AtA, antaramen sahaj hai. parantu anAdikA abhyAs bAharakA hai, isaliye prayatna apanI or kare to hotA hai.

mumukShu- karanA paDe.

samAdhAna- prayatna kare to hotA hai, aise hI nahIn ho jAtA. sahaj hai. apane pAs hai, sahaj hai. vah, bAharakA koI sAdhan mile (to hotA hai), aisA nahIn hai. svayam sahaj hai, prayatna kare to hotA hai. sAdhan bAharake hote hain-dev-guru-shAstra. anAdikAlase AtmAko pahachAnA nahIn hai, isaliye usake sAdhan dev-guru-shAstra hain. anAdise pahachAnA nahIn hai, isaliye pahale use ek bAr sva sanmukh honemen, samyagdarshan honemen, deshanAlabdhi honemen jinendra dev, gurukA pratyakSha upadesh mile to vah antaramen svayam svayamko pahachAnatA hai, apanI or jAtA hai. parantu puruShArtha svayamse karanA hai.

mumukShu- lekin aisA nimitta bhI milanA chAhiye na?

samAdhAna- hAn, nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha aisA hai. anAdi kAlamen ek bAr

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uuse jinendra dev aur guuru mile aur vah antaramen aisI ruchise sune to hotA hai. ruchise shravaN kare nahIn to ananta kAlamen anek bAr mile hain, to bhI andaramen apUrvatA nahIn lagI hai.

mumukShu- upayogako bahirmukh rahanekI atishay Adat hai.

samAdhAna- Adat, anAdikA abhyAs hai, bAhar hI jAtA hai, bAhar hI dauD jAtA hai. use bArambAr puruShArtha kar-karake, bArambAr apanI or AnakA (prayatna karanA chAhiye). jaisA bAharamen sahaj jAtA hai, vaisA antaramen svayam sahaj kare to apanI or Tike. bAharamen kaisA dauD paDatA hai. usamen use mahenat nahIn karanI paDatI. kuchh karanA nahIn paDatA, sahaj hI dauD paDatA hai. vaise apanI or sahaj honeke bAvajUd jAtA nahIn hai. bArambAr usakA abhyAs kare, usake binA ruche nahIn, usake binA suhAy nahIn, bArambAr bAhar jAy to bhI bArambAr main jAnanevAlA gnAyak hUn, yah svarUp merA nahIn hai. yah sab vikalpakA svarUp merA nahIn hai. aise bhedagnAn karake bArambAr us or yadi Adat DAle. lekin vah kab paDatI hai? usakI mahimA lage to paDatI hai. shuShkatAse bolanemAtra yA raTan karane hetu kare to nahIn hotA hai, usakI mahimA lage to hotA hai. use antaramense pahachAne to hotA hai.

mumukShu- abhI to sab avasar, aise duShamakAlamen aise gurudev, aisI vANI, Ap vidyamAn, aisA prabal aur samartha nimitta mile hain, ab kAm to hamArI hI hin yogyatAke kAraN nahIn ho rahA hai.

samAdhAna- apane puruShArthakI mandatA hai. aise gurudev mile, itanI vANI barasAyI, chAron orase samajhAyA, kuchh bAkI nahIn rahA, utanA samajhAyA hai. AtmAkA svarUp, tattvakA svarUp spaShTa kar-karake AtmAkI svatantratA, dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp, nimitta- upAdAnakA svarUp chAron orase sab svarUp gurudevane spaShTa kiyA hai. lekin puruShArtha svayamko karanA bAkI rahatA hai. AtmAkI svAnubhUti, munidashA, kevalagnAn sab spaShTa kiyA hai. lekin svayam puruShArtha kare to hotA hai.

mumukShu- vachanAmRutamen to bhAShA aisI hai ki in sabako bhI samajhamen AtA hai. itanA sundara. gurudevane us par utane pravachan diye. sachamuchamen to halavA taiyAr ho gayA, hamAre liye.

samAdhAna- svayamko karanA bAkI rahatA hai. utanI lagan lagAnI, utanI jignAsA karanI, apanI kShati hai.