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samAdhAna- ... parantu usamen dUsarA pheraphAr nahIn hotA. dhUl, miTTI evan pAnIse nahIn hotA. usakA rasakas, Age jAnA Adi kam hotA hai, bAkI vastumen pharka nahIn paDatA. andarase anek prakArakI nirmalatA hotI thI, RuddhiyAn aur shakti pragaT hotI thI, aisA nahIn hotA. chhaThThe-sAtaven guNasthAnake sAth jo usake sAth sambandhavAle guN ho, vah bAharamen bhI hote hI hain.

mumukShu- jise AtmAkI sthiratA huyI hai, shraddhAn to huA hI hai, parantu asthiratA bhI jinakI dUr huyI hai.

samAdhAna- AtmAkI shraddhA hotI hai, asthiratAkI bAt alag hai. to use munidashA nahIn hotI. yadi utanI sthiratA na ho to munidashA nahIn hotI. jis jAtakI dashA ho vaisA bAhar hotA hai. sabako aisA lAgU nahIn paDatA ki andaramen ho vah bAhar ho. yah to munidashAke sAth sambandha hai. bAhar pakaDamen Aye, nahIn Aye, parantu jo andar ho use koI bAharase pakaD nahIn sakatA. bAharamen gRuhasthAshramavAleko vyavahAr sab alag hotA hai. jo antaramen ho vah bAharamen dikhAI nahIn detA. parantu yah to munidashAke guNake sAth sambandha hai.

mumukShu- gurudevakI to bahut UnchI vartanA thI. unhonne munidashA angIkAr nahIn kI. to kyon nahIn lI?

uttara- munidashA andarakI alag hotI hai. mumukShu- andar to munidashA nahIn thI? mumukShu- .. AtI hai vah barAbar tAttvik nahIn hai. vaishya veSh, nirgranth bhAv ho use vaishya veSh nahIn hotA. vaishya veShe nirgranth bhAv....

mumukShu- ... ek janma karake mokShamen jAyenge.

samAdhAna- vah barAbar, ek janma karake mokShamen jAyenge, vah barAbara. bAdamen dUsare bhavamen muni ban jAyenge. nirgranth bhAv to hai, parantu nirgranth dashA abhI nahIn hai. jo gRuhasthAshrakI dashA hai, munidashA bAdamen dUsare bhavamen AyegI. sthiratAkA mel karanA, usakA vichAr kare to baiThe aisA hai.

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mumukShu- .... muni hokar peshanTako TriT nahIn karate.

samAdhAna- shraddhA ho, bhedagnAn ho use avashya bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. use avashya chAritra AtA hai, use avashya munidashA AtI hai, parantu vartamAnamen use munidashA nahIn hotI.

mumukShu- nagnabhAv, munDabhAv sah asnAnatA.

samAdhAna- .. AtmAkI sevA karanekA gurudevane batAyA hai. AtmAkA vichAr karanA, AtmAkI jignAsA, tattvakA vichAr karanA. AtmA kaun hai? usakA svarUp kyA hai? vah gnAnasvabhAv hai, AnandasvabhAv hai. usakA AtmAkA vichAr karanA. dev-guru- shAstrakI mahimA shubhabhAv hai, parantu andar shuddhAtmA bhinna hai. shuddhAtmAkA vichAr karanA. usakA bhedagnAn kaise ho? yah sab vibhAvabhAv hai, usase bhinna hokar nyArA kaise huA jAy? yah sab vichAr karanA. dravya-guN-paryAyakA (vichAr karanA), shAstramen kyA AtA hai? gurudevane kyA batAyA hai? yah sab vichAr karanA.

mumukShu- mAtra vichArase nahIn hotA.

samAdhAna- AtmAko grahaN karanA. vichAr karake nakkI karanA. AtmAko grahaN karanA ki yah AtmA hai vahI main hUn, anya kuchh main nahIn. yah gnAyak svabhAv hai vahI main hUn, dUsarA kuchh merA svarUp nahIn hai. gnAyakako grahaN karanA, use bhinna karanekA prayatna karanA, ekatvabuddhi hai usase bhinna hokar kShaN-kShaNamen main bhinna hUn, usakI bhAvanA, jignAsA aur us prakArakA prayatna pariNatimen kaise Utare? jo vichArase nakkI kare vah pariNatimen kaise Utare? usakA prayAs karanA. vah karanekA hai. vah sahajarUp kaise ho? vichAramen nirNay kiyA lekin vah pariNatirUp kaise ho? usakA prayAs karanA. vichArase nakkI karake phir Age jAnA hai. parantu jabatak andar sahajarUpase grahaN na ho, tabatak vichAr, vAnchan Adi sab AtA hai. shAstra svAdhyAy, usake vichAr, manan (Adi hotA hai). Age kaise baDhanA? svAnubhUti kaise ho? vah sab jignAsA karanI. karanA to ek hI hai, bhavakA abhAv kaise ho? aur gnAyak kaise grahaN ho? aur AtmAkI svAnubhUti kaise ho? karanA to yah ek hI hai.

gnAnasvabhAv nakkI karake phir use grahaN karake Age baDhA jAtA hai. parantu pahale nakkI karanemen hI use yathArtha pratIti, vichAr karake barAbar yathArtha jaisA hai vaisA nakkI karake Age baDhA jAtA hai.

mumukShu- aisA AtA hai na ki, gnAnalakShaNase pahachAnakara. yAnI jahAn gnAn hai vahIn AtmA hai.

samAdhAna- gnAnasvabhAv hai vahI main hUn, main anya kuchh nahIn hUn. vah lakShaN usakA

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aisA mukhya lakShaN hai, vah usakA asAdhAraN lakShaN hai. itanA satya paramArtha hai, itanA satya kalyAN hai ki jitanA yah gnAyak-gnAnasvabhAv hai. jo gnAnasvabhAv hai usImen tU ruchi kar, usamen prIti kar, usamen santuShTa ho. usImen sab bharA hai. gnAn mAne mAtra jAnanA itanA hI nahIn hai, parantu pUrNa gnAyak hai. pUrNa gnAyak mahimAvant bharA hai.

gnAnasvabhAv-jitanA gnAn UtanA hI tU hai, anya kuchh tU nahIn hai. jitanA jAnanevAlA hai utanA hI tU hai. use nakkI karake usamen sthir honese tujhe tRupti hogI, santoSh hogA, Ananda AyegA, sab usImen hogA. kahIn aur nahIn hai. gnAnasvabhAv rUkhA nahIn hai, vah mahimAvant hai. gnAn yAnI mAtra shuShkatAse jAnate rahanA, aisA nahIn hai. gnAnasvabhAv tU mahimAse grahaN kara. vah gnAnasvabhAv koI alag hai.

utanA satyArtha kalyAN hai, utanA hI paramArtha hai ki jitanA yah gnAn hai. us gnAnako hI grahaN kara. tujhe santoSh hogA, usamen tRupti hogI. kahIn aur santoSh aur tRupti hogI nahIn. jo svabhAvamense santoSh hogA aur tRupti hogI, vah kahIn aur nahIn AyegI. usImen Ananda AyegA. vikalpase chhUTakar usamen sthir ho jA, usImen sab bharA hai.

(jabatak yah na ho) tabatak dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, anek jAtakI mahimA, prabhAvanA Adike prasangamen juDatA hai. bAhar yah shubhabhAv aur andaramen shuddhAtmA kaise pahachAnamen Aye, yah karanekA hai. samyagdarshan ho to bhI abhI pUrNatA nahIn huyI hai, tabatak shubhabhAv Ate hain. kevalagnAn nahIn hotA tabatak shubhabhAv Aye binA nahIn rahate. munionko bhI Ate hain. chhaThThe-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate hain. muni ho to bhI jab bAhar Ate hain tab shAstra likhate hain. upadesh Adi, bhagavAnake darshan Adi sab munionko AtA hai. parantu bAhar Aye to shubhamen aur andaramen chhaThThe-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate hain. munionko dUsarA sabakuchh gauN ho gayA hai. vah sab to hai yA nahIn aisA ho gayA hai.

andar pragaT karaneke liye kShaN-kShaNamen lagan lagAye, bhAvanA bhAve. shubhabhAvamen, jinhonne pragaT kiyA hai aise bhagavAn, jinhonne pUrNatA pragaT kI, jo sAdhanA kar rahe hain aise guru aur shAstramen jA Aye, use tU hRudayamen rakakhar usakI mahimA lAkar vahAn khaDA rahanA. anya ashubhabhAvamen mat khaDe rahanA. bAhar Ave to vahAn khaDe rahanA hai. antaramen shuddhAtmAkI lagana. bAharamen sarvasva A nahIn jAtA, andar shuddhAtmA antaramen rah jAtA hai.

mumukShu- vishrAnti lenI ho to dev-guru-shAstra...

samAdhAna- hAn, dev-guru-shAstra. andar shuddhAtmA. jinhoenne svabhAv pragaT kiyA hai aise bhagavAn aur jo sAdhan kar rahe hain, aise guru. shAstramen sab varNan AtA hai.

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mumukShu- is maryAdAse Age nahIn jAnA hai.

samAdhAna- us maryAdAse Age jAyegA to ashubhabhAvamen jAyegA, vahAn nahIn jAnA hai. andaramen terI jignAsA, lagan to yahI rakhanI hai, shraddhA to yahI rakhanA ki yah shuddhAtmA kaise grahaN ho? bAharamen dev-guru-shAstra.

.. na kar sake to shraddhA to barAbar karanA, shAstramen AtA hai. shraddhA barAbar rakhanA ki mArga to yahI hai. in sabase bhinna AtmA shuddhAtmA (hai). usakA dravya- guN-paryAyakA svarUp pahachAnanese, use grahaN karanese, usamen lIn honese pragaT hotA hai. bAkI bIchamen koI parakA Ashray (lenA) vah AtmAkA svarUp nahIn hai. andar tere AtmAkA Ashray lenA. shraddhAmen yah rakhanA hai. vah nahIn ho sake to bAharamen dev- guru-shAstrakA Ashray hotA hai, vyavahArase.

deshanAlabdhi hotI hai us vakta bhagavAn aur gurukI vANIkA nimitta hotA hai. aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha (hai). karanA svayamko hai, parantu nimittamen dev aur guru sAkShAt hote hain.

mumukShu- .. nirNay taka. usamen bhI yah ... samay-samayamen tU bhinna paDanekA, anubhav karanekA prayatna kar ki main to gnAyak hI hUn, main to gnAyak hI hUn. arthAt upayog bhI usake pAs hai aur viShay bhI usake pAs hai. phir bhI vah itanA kaThin paDatA hai, is abhyAsake kAraN, ki vahAnse chhUTakar anubhav karanemen, vikalpAtmak anubhav karanemen bhI utanA hI samay lagatA hai aur itanA kaThin lagatA hai.

samAdhAna- yah abhyAs bahut ho gayA hai na. anAdikA. usase bhinna paDanemen, pariNatimen use chhoDanemen dikkat hotI hai. vichArase nakkI kiyA ho to bhI use bhinna karaneke kAryamen use kaThin paDatA hai. kyonki anAdikI pariNati use sAth-sAth chalI A rahI hai.

(samajh) pIchhe sab saral hai. vah bhinna paDe to phir usakI pUrI lAIn saral hai. parantu pratham bhUmikA use vikaT hai. kyonki anAdikI use ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. svayam apaneAp prayatna karate-karate, AtmA svayam hI andarase mArga kar detA hai. jise kharI jignAsA aur lagan hotI hai use.

... nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. koI kisIkA kartA nahIn hai. deshanAlabdhi hotI hai tab bhagavAnakA, gurukA nimitta hotA hai aur apane upAdAnakI taiyArI (hotI hai), aisA sambandha sarva pratham bAr, sAkShAt dev aur gurukA yog hotA hai, parantu nimitta nimittamen (rahatA hai). nimitta prabal hai. nimitta nimittamen, upAdAn upAdAnamen. ek-ek paramANu sab svatantra hai, sab svatantra hain, pratyek dravya svatantra hain. ek paramANuke dravya-

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guN-paryAy svatantra. sabake dravya-guN-paryAy svatantra.

mumukShu- mAmAko bAt karI ki abhI kaThin lagatI hai parantu sAthamen aisA bhI baiThatA hai ki isake sivA chhUTakArA nahIn hai aur yahI upAy hai. aisA anubhav karanese saral ho jAyagA aur aise saral hone par nirvikalpa honekA avakAsh aise hI AyegA, yah bAt mAtAjI! barAbar baiThatI hai. abhI jarUr kaThin lagatA hai aisA prayAs karanA.

samAdhAna- vikalpa bhI vahI hai, use bhinna karake, ekatvabuddhi toDakar gnAyakakI dhArA pragaT karanI. ek hI upAy hai. dravyako grahaN kiyA, dravya par dRuShTi kI parantu dRuShTi karake use TikAnA, use bhinna karanA yah kArya (karanA hai). jo mAnyatAmen liyA ki main bhinna hUn, yah vibhAv svabhAv merA nahIn hai. main bhinna hUn. bhinna nakkI kiyA to vah satyarUpase nakkI kab kahA jAy? ki us rUp kArya ho taba. bhinna hai vah bhinna hI hai. to phir ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. use satya nakkI karake use andar bhinna karanekA prayatna hue binA rahatA nahIn. andar prayAs karanepar satya to yahI hai, mArga yahI hai.

shraddhArUp pariNati jise kahate hain, vah shraddhA jo vichArase shraddhA kare vah alag, usamen to shraddhAkI pariNati hotI hai. dRuShTi aur bhedagnAnakI pariNati. vah abhI shraddhArUp hai. lekin vah shraddhA kaisI? pariNatirUp hotI hai. pariNatikA kArya karatI hai vaha. visheSh chAritra hotA hai vah alaga. yah to shraddhAke sAth amuk prakArakI lInatA (hotI hai). usamen anantAnubandhi sAthamen chhUT jAtA hai. isaliye amuk prakArakI pariNati ho jAtI hai.

mumukShu- anubhav honese pahale aisA sahaj nirvikalpapane ho, anubhav pahale bhI aisA vikalpAtmak sahajapane...?

samAdhAna- sahajapane, use pariNati sahaj hotI jAtI hai. usamen use svAnubhUtikA avakAsh hai. kisIko thoDe prayatna binA ekadam ho jAtA hai, vah alag bAt hai. kisIko ekadam nakkI huA aur turanta bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT ho jAtI hai, vah ek alag bAt hai. aise bhI koI jIv hote hain. jaise shivabhUti muni jaise ekadam palaT gaye. pariNati ekadam palaT gayI.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! Aj dhanya ghaDI, dhanya bhAgya hamAre ki Aj hamen Apako hIrese vadhAnekA saubhAgya prApta huA. mokShamArgake praNetA pUjya mAtAjI! ananta kAlase paradravya aur rAgakA bhajan is jIvane anAdi kAlase kiyA hai. to ab Apake pratApase AtmAkA bhajan kaise karen ki jisase sAdiananta mokShasukhako prApta karen?

samAdhAna- jaisI jIvako bAhya dRuShTi hai, usakA anAdise bhajan karatA A rahA

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hai. gurudevane bahut kiyA hai ki tU gnAyakako dekh, gnAyakakA smaraN kar, gnAyakako lakShyamen le, gnAyakakA hI tU bArambAr raTan kara. bAharakA raTan chhoDakar gnAyakakA raTan kara. gnAyakakA lakShaN pahachAne. usakA gnAnalakShaN jo asAdhAraN lakShaN hai, us lakShaNase vah pahachAnamen AtA hai aur us lakShaN dvArA lakShya arthAt vastuko pahachAnakar bArambAr usIkA raTan, manan evan bArambAr usamen nirNay karake use grahaN karake usakA Ashray le. bArambAr kare to vah pragaT ho aisA hai.

anAdise jo kiyA hai, rAg aur vikalponkA smaraN use bArambAr hotA hai. parantu AtmAkA smaraN karatA nahIn hai, gnAyakakA smaraN nahIn karatA hai. use bArambAr gnAyakakA smaraN ho aisI jignAsA, ruchi, gnAyakamen hI sarvasva hai, bAhar kahIn nahIn hai aisI gnAyakakI shraddhA ho. gnAyakamen hI sab bharA hai, bAhar kahIn nahIn hai. aisA gnAyakakA vishvAs Aye. gnAyakamen Ananda hai, bAhar kahIn nahIn hai, aisA vishvAs Aye to vah gnAyakakA raTan kare aur vahI karane jaisA hai. bArambAr gnAyak, gnAyakadevakA smaraN kare. vah na ho tabatak dev-guru-shAstrakA smaraN kare. antaramen gnAyakadevakA smaraN kare. gnAyak kaisA hai, usakI pratIti kare. gnAyak koI adabhut hai, anupam hai. usakA lakShaN pahachAnakar bArambAr nishchay kare to ho sake aisA hai. parantu vah bhedagnAn dvArA hotA hai. gnAyakakA lakShaN pahachAnakar hotA hai.

bhedagnAn dvArA hotA hai. parantu utanI svayamkI jignAsA aur ruchi ho to karatA hai. use bhinna kare, use bArambAr bhinna karanekA prayatna kare to hotA hai. lakShaN pahachAnakar use pragnAchhainI dvArA bhinna kare to hotA hai. bAkI anAdikA abhyAs hai isaliye mushkil ho gayA hai, durlabh ho gayA hai. parantu apanA svabhAv hai isaliye sulabh hai, durlabh nahIn hai. parantu svayam puruShArtha kare to ho sake aisA hai.

mumukShu- lagatA hai ki AtmAmen hI Ananda bharA hai, parantu jIv mAnatA nahIn hai. vishvAs AnA chAhiye ki usake binA mujhe ek kShaN bhI nahIn chalegA, usake liye jo puruShArthakI nirantar jAgRuti chAhiye, vah nahIn rahatI.

samAdhAna- vah svayam kare to hI ho sake aisA hai. koI use kar nahIn detA. itanA vishvAs andarase svayam lAve to hI ho sake aisA hai. usakA vishvAs lAkar ananta jIv mokShamen gaye hain, ananta jIvonne AtmAkA svarUp pragaT kiyA hai. vah svayam kare to ho sake aisA hai. vah kisIse ho aisA nahIn hai. svayam kare to hI hotA hai. vah vishvAs svayamko hI lAnA hai. jalda yA derase svayam hI vishvAs lAye, svayamko usakI jarUrat lage, svayamko hI karanA hai.

dev-guru-shAstra mahA nimitta hain, parantu karanA svayamko hI hai. aisA puruShArtha karake

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ananta jIv mokShamen gaye hain, ananta muni mokShamen gaye hain. yah mArga ek hI hai, bhedagnAn karake gnAyakako pahachAnanA. usakI shraddhA-pratIti dRuDh karake, vaisI pariNati karake usamen lIn ho jAy vahI ek mArga hai, dUsarA koI mArga nahIn hai. vishvAs svayamko hI lAnA hai. prayatna svayamko karanA hai. sabakuchh svayamko karanA hai. shraddhA pragaT karanI, samyagdarshan karanA, usamen lInatA karanI vah sab svayamko hI karanA hai. svayam svatantra hai. jalda yA der, parantu svayam kare to hI hotA hai. dUsarA koI usamen kar de aisA nahIn hai.

gurudevane mArga batAyA hai, svayamko karanA bAkI rahatA hai. ekadam AsAn kar diyA hai. chAron orase mArga batAyA hai. dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp (samajhAyA hai). nimitta- upAdAn, anek-anek prakArakA sUkShma-sUkShma rUpase sab samajhAyA hai. svayamko karanA bAkI rah jAtA hai.