Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 112.

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mumukShu- mAtAjI! ananta-ananta kAlake paribhramaNake dukhonse mukta honeke liye hI Ap hamen mile hain, aisA hamen antarase lagatA hai. to is sansArase mukta hokar shAshvat sukhakI prApti kaise ho?

samAdhAna- ek hI mArga hai-shuddhAtmAko grahaN karanA vahI hai. shuddhAtmAko grahaN kare. shuddhAtmAko grahaN kare to shuddha paryAy pragaT hotI hai, ashuddhako grahaN kiyA to ashuddha paryAy hotI hai. ashuddhakI or dRuShTi hai to use ashuddhatAkI paryAyen hotI hai. ek shuddhAtmA, main shuddha svarUp hUn. yah paryAyamen malinatA hai, mere mUl svarUpamen nahIn hai. "je shuddha jANe AtmAne te shuddha AtmA ja meLave'. ek shuddhAtmAko hI grahaN karanA.

jo mokShamen gaye ve sab shuddhAtmAmen pravRutti karake mokSha gaye hain, yah ek hI mokShakA mArga hai, dUsarA koI nahIn hai. shuddhAtmAko pahachAnanA. shuddhAtmAko pahachAne to sab shuddha paryAyen pragaT hotI hain. main ek shuddha chaitanya svarUp hUn. yah malinatA mereemen nahIn hai. vah merA svarUp nahIn hai. puruShArthakI kamajorIse vah malinatA hotI hai, parantu merA svarUp nahIn hai, main usase bhinna hUn.

jaise pAnI svabhAvase nirmal hai, vaise nirmal hUn, shItal svabhAvI hUn. parantu yah sab kIchaD nimittake kAraN yAnI svayam vaisA malin hotA hai, nimitta karatA nahIn hai. apanI pariNatimen svayam puruShArthakI kamajorIke kAraN malinatA hotI hai, parantu vah merA svarUp nahIn hai. aisA shuddha svarUp svayamkA hai, usakI shraddhA karake aur shuddha svarUpakI or jAya. use grahaN kare to usamense shuddha paryAyen pragaT hotI hain. ashuddhatAkI or dRuShTi hai to ashuddha paryAyen anAdi kAlase hotI rahatI hai. ek ke bAd ek ashuddha paryAyonkI shrRunkhalA chalatI hai. shuddhAtmAko grahaN kare to shuddhatAkI paryAyen pragaT hotI hai. ek hI mArga hai. is mArgakA sevan karake ananta mokShamen gaye hain. sab isI rItase gaye hain. nirvANakA mArga ek hI hai, dUsarA nahIn hai. shuddhAtmApravRutti lakShaN, bas ek hI.

mumukShu- ... hamen shAshvat AtmA batAyA, sabake to aise puNya kahAnse ho? to Ap hamen aisA saral mArga batAIye ki gRuhasthAshramamen rahakar durlabh...


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samAdhAna- gRuhasthAshramamen bhI yah ho sakatA hai. utanI svayamkI ruchi, jignAsA aur taiyArI ho to gRuhasthAshramamen bhI hotA hai. pUrvake sab jIv-bharat chakravartI Adi chakravartI gRuhasthAshramamen rahakar bhinna rahate the. gRuhasthAshramamen bhI svayamkI utanI bhinna rahanekI taiyArI ho to ho sakatA hai. shuddhAtmAko pahachAnA jAtA hai, shuddhAtmAkA nishchay, vishvAs kiyA jA sakatA hai. usamen pariNati ho sakatI hai, sab kar sakate hain, koI kisIko rok nahIn sakatA. svayam andarase nirlep rahe to gRuhasthAshramamen sab ho sakatA hai. AtmAkI ruchi, AtmAkA vichAr, vAnchan sab ho sake aisA hai. AtmAkA svabhAv kaise grahaN karanA, vah sab ho sake aisA hai. dev-guru-shAstra shubhabhAvamen, antaramen shuddhAtmA. antaramen usakI lagan, usakI laganake atirikta kuchh ruche nahIn. gRuhasthAshramamen sab ho sake aisA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! ... gRuhasthAshramamen thoDI durlabhatA lagatI hai. yahAn to sab sahaj- sahaj .. ApakI vANIkA yog, Apake darshanakA yog...

samAdhAna- satsang to sabako saral nimitta hai. satsangakI to alag bAt hai, parantu satsang nahIn ho to svayam taiyAr rahanA. svayamko taiyArI rakhanI chAhiye, vaise sanyogamen. satsangamen to AsAn hotA hai, saral hotA hai, parantu puruShArtha to svayamko hI karanA hai.

mumukShu- ... usamen ananta guN .. to kevalagnAnakA ansh kaise?

samAdhAna- sarva guNAnsh so samyagdarshan hai. kevalagnAnakA ansh hai. mati-shrut kevalagnAnakA ansh hai. matignAn hai na? jo gnAyak svarUp AtmA hai, gnAnasvarUp AtmA hai usakA jo samyakagnAn ansh pragaT huA hai. gnAnakA ansh pragaT huA isaliye usamen kevalagnAn A gayA. pragaT kevalagnAn nahIn hai, usakA ansh pragaT huA hai.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- hAn. kevalagnAn hai usakA bhed nikAl denA. gnAnakA samyak ansh pragaT huA, (vah) kevalagnAnakA ansh hai. mati-shrut kevalagnAnako bulAtA hai. AtA hai na? kevalagnAn shaktirUp hai, parantu samyakarUp pariNamA hai. kevalagnAn, aisA usakA bhed nikAl do (to) gnAnakA ansh hai vah kevalakA hI ansh hai. samyak ansh jo pragaT huA vah kevalakA ansh hai. shakti apekShAse kevalagnAn hai, anek prakArake shrImadamen shabda Ate hain na? ichchhA apekShAse, mukhyanayake hetuse kevalagnAn hai.

mumukShu- gnAnamen svabhAvakA ansh rahA hai?

samAdhAna- svabhAvakA ansh jo pragaTarUp huA, jo pariNati apanI or (gayI ki) gnAyakasvarUp-gnAnasvarUp AtmA hai, usamen samyakarUp pariNati svAnubhUtikA ansh antaramen pragaT huA. jo svayamko jAnanevAlA ansh pragaT huA vah kevalakA hI ansh hai. mukhya nay, jo samyak nay pragaT huyI, samyak ansh pragaT huA vah kevalagnAnakA


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ansh hai. dravyadRuShTi pragaT huyI aur us or jo gnAn gayA, vah gnAn bhI samyakarUpase kevalakA ansh hai. mati-shrutakA bhed nikAl denA. ek gnAyaka.

"A gnAnapad paramArtha chhe, te...' vah gnAnapada. usakA jo ansh pragaT huA vah kevalakA ansh hai. kevalagnAn bhI gnAnakA ek bhed hai. gnAnakA ansh hai. jo ansh pragaT huA vah pUrNatA lAyegA.

mumukShu- jo ansh pragaT huA vah pUrNatA bhI lAyegA aur vartamAnamen jo svabhAv hai, use...

samAdhAna- jo svabhAv hai vah pUrNa hai. usane pUrNako dRuShTimen liyA hai aur gnAnamen liyA hai. pUrNako dRuShTimen liyA hai, pUrNako gnAnamen liyA hai. bhale pratyakSha nahIn hai, parantu parokShamen use gnAnamen liyA hai. usakA vedan pratyakSha hai. usakA gnAn bhale pratyakSha nahIn hai, parantu parokShamen usane pUrNako gnAnamen le liyA hai. .. nahIn hai, parantu pariNatirUp hai.

mumukShu- aise to use kevalagnAn hAthamen A gayA, aisA koI apekShAse..?

samAdhAna- kevalagnAn hAthamen A gayA hai. dRuShTi apekShAse, gnAn apekShAse kevalagnAn hAthamen A gayA hai. usakI visheSh pariNati karanI bAkI hai, bAkI to usake hAthamen A gayA hai. bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT huyI, gnAyakakI dhArA pragaT huyI, svabhAvakI or dRuShTi gayA, svabhAvakI or gnAn gayA, usakI svAnubhUti huyI, isaliye kevalagnAn usake hAthamen-hathelImen A gayA hai. pUrNatA, pUrNa svarUp usake gnAnamen aur dRuShTimen A gayA hai. usake vedanamen usakA ansh A gayA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! muni mahArAj shreNi lagAye us vakta to nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai. upayog andar rahe aur kevalagnAn ho tab kyA pharka paDA?

samAdhAna- shreNi lagAye to nirvikalpa dashAkI ugratA hai. kevalagnAn hotA hai tab vItarAgatA pUrNa hotI hai aur gnAnakI pariNati pratyakSha pariNati ho jAtI hai, kevalagnAn hotA hai taba. usakI gnAnakI jo pariNati thI vah parokSharUp thI, vah pratyakSharUp ho jAtI hai. usakA jo manakA thoDA avalamban thA vah bhI chhUTakar, kevalagnAn honese gnAn pariNati pratyakSha ho gayI. vItarAgadashA pratyakSharUpase vedanamen A jAtI hai. vItarAgadashAkI kShati thI. jab shreNI lagAyI tab nirvikalpa dashA thI, parantu vItarAg dashAkI kShati thI. gyArahaven guNasthAnamen upashAnt hai. sab shAnt ho gayA hai. kShINamohamen kShay hotA hai. parantu vItarAgadashAkI kShati hai. kevalagnAn hotA hai tab vItarAgadashA pUrNa ho jAtI hai. ekadam vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA hotI hai, chAritra pUrNa ho jAtA hai. ab rAgakA ansh udabhav nahIn honevAlA hai. abuddhimen bhI nahIn hai. abuddhimense chhUT jAtA hai. isaliye abuddhimen rAg rahatA nahIn, aisI vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA (ho jAtI hai). ekadam andar gayA to bAhar


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nahIn AtA hai. aisI vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA ho jAy, us vItarAgadashAke sAth gnAn bhI pUrNa ho jAy, aisA use sambandha hai.

vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA aur gnAnakI pUrNatA. gnAn upayogAtmakarUpase pratyakSha pariNaman karane lagatA hai, jahAn vItarAgatA hotI hai vahAn. pUrNa vItarAgatA. sab kShay ho jAtA hai. rAgakA ek bhI ansh utpanna nahIn hotA hai. shrutake chintavanakI or jAtA thA, upayog to usamen abuddhipUrvak hai, to bhI vah chhUTakar bhI ekadam vItarAgadashA ho jAtI hai. ekadam shAntaras ho jAtA hai. usake sAth gnAn bhI pratyakSharUp ho jAtA hai. bAhar kahIn dekhane nahIn jAte. parantu gnAnasvarUp jo AtmA hai vah pragaT upayogAtmakapane sahaj ho jAtA hai. dekhane nahIn jAte. vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA isaliye kevalagnAn pUrNa huA. gnAn pUrNa ho jAtA hai. usake sAth sab pUrNa ho jAtA hai. jin-jin guNonkI alpatA thI vah sab pUrNa ho jAte hain. param avagADhatA ho jAtI hai. param avagADh samyagdarshan, gnAn, chAritra sab pUrNa ho jAte hain. ananta chatuShTa pUrNa ho jAte hain.

mumukShu- jo upayog andar rakhA vah to andar hI gayA?

samAdhAna- andar hI rah gayA, upayog bAhar hI nahIn AyA. andar jam gaye. jam gaye so jam gaye, bAhar hI nahIn Aye. andar hI rahA. shreNi lagAyI vahAn abuddhipUrvak vikalpa the, bAkI upayog andar hI thA. usakI visheSh sthiratA hote-hote use antarmuhUrtamen shreNI chaDh gaye aur vItarAgadashA pUrNa (huyI to) upayog andar hI rah gayA. vah upayog jo svAnubhUtimen kArya karatA thA, vah svAnubhUtimen sab pratyakShapane, use sab pratyakSha ho gayA, vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA ho gayI. use dekhanekI koI ichchhA nahIn hai. vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA aur pragaT upayogAtmak gnAn ho jAtA hai. ek-ek gneyako jAnane nahIn jAnA paDatA. sahaj pratyakSha ho jAtA hai.

mumukShu- upayog andar hI rahatA hai, lokAlok gnAt ho to...

samAdhAna- upayog bAhar nahIn rakhanA paDatA, lokAlokako jAnaneke liye. upayog to andar svAnubhUtimen lIn ho gayA. upayog bAhar nahIn jAtA hai. svAnubhUtimen upayog lIn hai. usamen pratyakSha pariNati ho jAtI hai. jo parokSharUp thI vah pratyakSha ho jAtI hai. vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA aur gnAnakI pUrNatA. jaisA AtmAse svabhAvase hai, vaisA hI AtmA vaisAkA vaisA rah jAtA hai. jo bAhar jAtA thA vah bAhar jAnA chhUT gayA. jaisA AtmA hai vah pragaTapane pariNamanarUp pratyakSha ho jAtA hai. jaisA hai vaisA chaitanyabrahma AtmA brahmasvarUp AtmA jaisA hai vaisA svayam pragaTarUpase pariNamatA hai.

ananta guN-paryAyamen svayam pariNamatA hai. ananta Ananda, ananta gnAn, ananta sukh, ananta bal, jo ananta-ananta guN hai, us rUp svayam pratyakShapane pariNamate hain. lokAlok


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yAnI bAharakA jAne, isaliye usakI visheShatA hai, aisA nahIn hai. svayam svayammen lIn ho jAte hain. phir to usakA svabhAv hai isaliye sahaj gnAt hotA hai. ek samayamen sab jAn le aisA upayog ho jAtA hai. jo antarmuhUrtakA upayog thA, jo antarmuhUrtamen gnAt hotA thA, usake bajAy ek samayamen jAne aisA usakA upayog ho jAtA hai. ek samayamen gnAt ho jAy aisA upayog ho jAtA hai. abuddhipUrvakamen man sAthamen AtA thA isaliye use antarmuhUrta jAnanemen samay lagatA thA. man chhUT gayA, sahaj gnAn ho gayA isaliye ek samayamen sab gnAt ho jAtA hai. apanA svarUp svAnubhUtimen jis svarUp svayam pariNamatA hai, pratyakShapane use upayogAtmakapane gnAnamen A jAtA hai. aur dUsare bAhya gney bhI sAth-sAth A jAte hain.

ananta siddha, ananta sAdhak, ananta sansArI jaise hain vaise ananta jaD dravya sab sahajapane gnAt ho jAtA hai. usamen use koI vikalpa nahIn hai. svAnubhUti pradhAn apanA upayog hai. vah sab usamen gnAt hotA hai. AtA hai na? aNu reNu vata. kahAn hai lokAlol, vah aNukI bhAnti hai. use koI bojh nahIn hai, kuchh nahIn hai. usakI use koI mahattA nahIn hai. svayam svAnubhUtimen pratyakSharUpase vItarAgadashArUp pariNamit ho jAte hain.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- ananta gunA Ananda baDh jAtA hai. phir palaTatA nahIn, bAhar jAtA nahIn, use upayogakA pheraphAr hotA nahIn. anantagunA baDh jAtA hai. jo hai sab ananta hai. vItarAgadashA anantI, Ananda ananta, gnAn ananta, sab ananta hai. usakI pariNati anantagunI ho jAtI hai. jo svabhAv thA us rUp ananta anantatA pragaT ho jAtI hai.

mumukShu- ... andar nirvikalpa upayog jyAdAse jyAdA kitanA rahatA hogA?

samAdhAna- aisA koI kAlakA niyam nahIn AtA hai. shreNi lagAnase pahale na? vah to antarmuhUrtakA usakA kAl hai. phir kitanA antarmuhUrta vah kuchh shAstramen AtA nahIn hai. antarmuhUrtakA kAl hai. kShaN-kShaNamen jAtA hai-AtA hai, jAtA hai-AtA hai. AtA hai na? hajAron bAr Ate hain, jAte hain.

mumukShu- jyAdA samay sthir nahIn ho sakate hain?

samAdhAna- ekadam upayogamen veg A jAtA hai, shreNi lagAte haiain. ekadam andar sthir ho jAnekA veg hai. ekadam upayog tvarAse hajAron bAr AtA hai-jAtA hai.

mumukShu- vegase kaise AtA hai?

samAdhAna- shreNI lagAnese pahale. aisA shAstramen AtA hai. bAkI munionkA AtA hai, hajAron bAr Ate hain-jAte hain, aisA shAstramen AtA hai. vah to shAstramen jaisA ho


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us anusAr (mAn lenA). vah to kAlakI bAt hai na. shAstramen ho us anusAr mAn lenA. munionkI dashAkI bAt hai.

mumukShu- shreNI lagAnevAle hon, usase pahale veg baDhane lagatA hai, aisA.. samAdhAna- aisA shAstramen AtA hai. mumukShu- ... samAdhAna- vah kuchh shAstrommen nahIn AtA hai. jitanA shAstrommen Ave itanA mAnanA. munikI bAt hai. abuddhipUrvak hai. vah to jo kevalagnAnIne jo kahA ho us anusAr mAnanekA hotA hai. vah to tarkamen amuk prakArase biThA sakate hain. kyonki vah to ekadam antarmuhUrtakA upayog sUkShma upayog hotA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amRut vANIno jay ho!
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