PDF/HTML Page 70 of 1906
single page version

mumukShu- karmakA nAsh karanA chAhate hain, parantu bandhate hI jAte hain, bandhate hI jAte hain, usakA ant kahAn hai?

samAdhAna- karma bandhate hI jAte hain usamen svayamkA kAraN hai. svayam ekatvabuddhi karake aTakA hai. andar jo rAg aur dveSh (hote hain), usake sAthe ekatvabuddhi kI hai. karmako svayam bAndhane nahIn jAtA hai, karmako svayam chhoDane nahIn jAtA. parantu svayam andar jo vikalpakI jAlamen phansA hai, andaramen ekatvabuddhi karake andarase svayam bhinna paDatA hai isaliye karma chhUTate nahIn hai. svayam andarase vikalpase chhUT jAye aur usase main bhinna hUn, aise apane tattvako grahaN kare to andarase svayam chhUT jAtA hai, to karma chhUT jAte hain. svayam andarase chhUTatA nahIn hai, isaliye karma bhI nahIn chhUTate hain.

mumukShu- vah kaise?

samAdhAna- svayam andarase bhinna paDanA chAhiye ki main to AtmA hUn, main to chaitanya jAnaneAlA hUn. yah sharIr main nahIn hUn. sharIrake sAth ekatvabuddhi (ho rahI hai). bhale use abhI ekadam nahIn chhUTe, andarase gnAn karake, vichAr karake main to chaitanya gnAyak hUn, yah jaD sharIr main nahIn hUn, main to jAnanevAlA hUn, yah rAg-dveSh merA svarUp nahIn hai, main to jAnanevAlA Anandase bharA AtmA hUn. isaprakAr bArambAr vichAr karake usakA svabhAv pahachAne aur bArambAr usase nirlep rahanekA prayatna kare, usase bhinna rahanekA prayatna kare. bArambAr andarase yadi svayam nirlep rahe aur bhinna rahanekA prayatna kare to svayam bhinna hI hai. parantu andar svayam phansA hai ki main bandhA hUn, rAg-dveSh aur sharIr main, sharIr main aur main sharIr, aisI ekatvabuddhi ho gayI hai. yah sharIr hai vahI main hUn aur sharIr hI merA svarUp hai, aisI ekatvabuddhi aur yah kalpanAkI jAl hotI hai vah sab main hI hUn, usase main bhinna hUn aisA gnAn kare to chhUT sakatA hai.

svayam andarase bhinna paDe to karma chhUT jAte hain. svayam bhinna paDatA hai isaliye karma bandhate jAte hain. sharIr main nahIn hUn, main to jAnanevAlA hUn. andar vichAr kare to khyAl Aye ki main to jAnanevAlA hUn. isase main bhinna hI hUn, isaprakAr svayam bhinnatAkI bhAvanA kare, usakA prayatna kare to chhUT sakatA hai. svabhAvase bhinna hI hai, parantu bandha gayA

PDF/HTML Page 71 of 1906
single page version

hUn aisA mAn liyA hai ki main bandha gayA hUn.

pahale prayatna karake bhinna hove, bhAvanA kare, lekin dravya to bhinna hI hai. lekin svayam aisI pariNati kare, bhinnatA rUp svayam pariNaman karatA jAye to phir bhinna paD jAtA hai. karma chhUT jAte hain, bhavakA abhAv ho jAtA hai, andarase chhUT jAye.

mumukShu- samyagdarshanako hI dhyey rakhanA yA gauNarUpase dUsarA bhI koI dhyey paDatA hai?

samAdhAna- samyagdarshan yAnI AtmAkI prApti karanI vahI ek dhyey rakhanA hai. dUsarA dhyey kyA? dUsarA koI dhyey rakhane jaisA nahIn hai. usamense use koI AtmAkI siddhi, sukh nahIn milane vAlA hai. bAharakA to sab puNyAdhIn hai, vah apane hAthakI bAt nahIn hai. bAharase main paise prApta karun, dUsarA koI kArya karun yA dUsarekA kuchh karun, vah apane hAthakI bAt nahIn hai. vah to svayamke puNya anusAr, dUsareke puNya anusAr hotA rahatA hai, dUsareke pApake udayake kAraN jaisA honA ho vaisA hotA rahatA hai. svayamke puNya-pApake uday anusAr hotA rahatA hai, vah kuchh nahIn kar sakatA. mAtra bhAv karatA hai, rAg karatA hai, dveSh karatA hai, vah sab karatA hai, bAkI kuchh nahIn kar sakatA. ek hI kArya kar sakatA hai ki svayam AtmA hai, us AtmAkI prApti kar sake. dUsarA bAharakA kuchh nahIn kar sakatA, mAtra mAnatA hai ki main bAharakA kar sakatA hUn.

mumukShu- jIvanamen ek hI dhyey rahA ki svarUp samajhanA.

samAdhAna- ek AtmAkI hI prApti. jise AtmA chAhiye, usake liye AtmAkI prApti. nahIn chAhiye usake liye to sansAr to hai hI. vah to anAdikA hai. jise AtmA chAhiye, Atmadevake darshan jise karane hain, usake liye use dhyey rakhanA hai. jise vah nahIn hai, jise usakI ichchhA nahIn hai, use sansAr hai hI. usake liye to sansArake sabhI kArya hai hI. vah to anAdise hai hI. shubhAshubh donon hai.

.. jabatak nahIn ho tabatak bhAvanA kare, vichArAdi sab kare. shubhabhAvamen dev- guru-shAstrako usake hRudayamen rakhe. jinendradev, guru, shAstra, jo AtmAko darshAnevAle hain, jisane AtmAkI sAdhanA kI hai, jo pUrNa ho gaye hain, jo muni sAdhanA karate rahate hain, jo AtmAkI sAdhanA karate hain, shAstramen jo AtmAkI bAten AtI hain, un sabakI mahimA rakhe. vah shubhabhAv hai. parantu dhyey to ek Atma-prAptikA rakhanA.

mumukShu- ... us pariNatimen nirvikalpa ho. vikalpa chalate hain tabatak to vAstavik rUpase to bhinna nahIn paD sakatA.

samAdhAna- vikalpa hote hain tabatak bhinna nahIn paDatA hai, parantu us or dRuShTi

PDF/HTML Page 72 of 1906
single page version

kare, usakI pratIt kare, usakI bhAvanA kare aur usake mArga par chalanekA prayatna kare. aisA sab pahale kare. vAstavik rUpase to jab nirvikalpa hotA hai tab bhinna paDatA hai. pahale pratItamen bhinna paDe, nirvikalpa svAnubhUtimen bhinna paDe. parantu vAstavik to jab samyagdarshan hotA hai tab hI bhinna paDatA hai. parantu usake pahale usakI bhAvanA kare, prayAs kare, laganI lagAye, vah sab kar sakatA hai. usake samIp jAnekA prayatna kare, use pahachAnanekA prayatna kare.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! jab samajhAte ho us vakta to itanA saral lagatA hai ki mAno sab samajhamen A gayA hai, sab khyAl AtA hai. jab prayogamen rakhanekA puruShArtha karate hain tab aisA lagatA hai ki din bItate hain parantu kuchh hotA nahIn.

samAdhAna- svayamke puruShArthakA kAraN hai, svayamkI mandatAke kAraN Age nahIn baDh sakatA hai, isaliye aisA lagatA hai. puruShArtha kare use kShaNamen hotA hai, nahIn kare to use kuchh samay lagatA hai, parantu bhAvanA, jignAsA to use karane jaisA hai. use us mArga par chalane jaisA hai, use chhoDane jaisA nahIn hai. usamen thakane jaisA nahIn hai ki prApta nahIn hotA hai, isaliye usake liye thakAn lagAne jaisA nahIn hai. nirantar karate hI rahanA hai. laganI, jignAsA, vichAr, vAnchan Adi.

svabhAvase to bhinna hI hai, parantu pariNatimen use pragaT karanA vah anAdikA use durlabh ho gayA hai. kyonki anAdikA pUrA pravAh use bAharakA ho gayA hai. antar dRuShTi karanI, antaramen jAnA use durlabh ho gayA hai. kyonki anAdikA pUrA pravAh bAharakA ho gayA hai. isaliye bArambAr prayAs karake svayamkI or lAye to hotA hai. nirantar karatA hI rahe.

mumukShu- ... chhoDanA nahIn hai, vahI prayAs, laganI karate hI rahanA hai, avashya prApti hogI.

samAdhAna- bahut bAr kahate hain, mandarake dvAr par Tahel lagAtA rahe, mandirake dvAr nahIn khulate isaliye chhoDanA nahIn. vahIn (prayatna karatA rahe). main gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn, main AtmA hUn usake dvAr par nirantar Tahel lagAtA rahe. use chhoDanA nahIn. usakI mahimA, usakI pratIt, vichAr karake main gnAyak hI hUn, aisA bArambAr nakkI kara.

mumukShu- ApakI AgnAkA pAlan ho to avashya prApta hogA.

samAdhAna- use antarase mahimA ho to prApta hue binA nahIn rahe. sachchI jignAsA ho use prApta hue binA nahIn rahatA.

mumukShu- gurukI AgnAbhakti lenI paDe?

samAdhAna- usamen AgnA A jAtI hai. sachchI jignAsA ho, usamen AgnA sAthamen

PDF/HTML Page 73 of 1906
single page version

A jAtI hai.

mumukShu- sachchI jignAsA hai vahI AgnAkA pAlan hai.

samAdhAna- jignAsA ho usamen sAthamen AgnA A jAtI hai. jo mArga gurudevane batAyA hai, us mArgako andar vichAr karake grahaN kare, usamen hI gurudevakI AgnA hai. antaramen gnAyakakA dvAr chhoDanA nahIn aur bAharase sachche dev-guru-shAstra jo mile, us dev-guru-shAstrakI, sachche dev jinendra dev jinhonne pUrNa svarUpakI prApti kI, gurudev jo sAdhan kar rahe hain aur shAstramen jo tattvakI bAt Aye, bAharamen usakI ArAdhanAmen rahe aur andaramen gnAyakakI ArAdhanAmen rahe. gurudevane jo mArga batAyA hai, us mArgako tU grahaN karatA rah, yahI unakI AgnA hai.

gurudevane kahA, tU is mArga par jAnA. tere dravya-guN-paryAy tujhamen hai, dUsareke dUsaremen hai. donon tattva atyant bhinna hain. tU svatantra hai, tere puruShArthase tU Age jA sakatA hai. gurudevane bahut kahA hai. gurudevane jo mArga batAyA, us mArgako svayam vichAr karake us mArga par chalanA vahI unakI AgnA hai. jignAsAke sAth vah AgnA rahI hai ki gurudevane kyA mArga batAyA hai, us mArgako lakShyamen rakhakar svayam us anusAr Age baDhe, usamen sAthamen AgnA A jAtI hai. dev-guru-shAstra jo kahate hain, usakA Ashay grahaN karake Age baDhanA vah AgnA hai.

... usamen bhavakA abhAv nahIn hotA hai. bhavakA abhAv to AtmAkI ruchi kare, AtmAkA svarUp pahachAne, bhinna paDe. anAdise bhinna hI hai, parantu bhedagnAn karake bhinnatA kare to muktikA mArga pragaT hotA hai, anyathA nahIn hotA. antarakI ruchi lagAnI chAhiye. gurudevane to bahut spaShTa karake samajhAyA hai. pUrA mArga spaShTa kar diyA hai.

is panchamakAlamen AtmAkI ruchi lagAkar AtmAkA svarUp pahachAnanekI laganI, jignAsA lagAnI. usakA vAnchan, usake vichAr Adi karanA chAhiye. sansArakA ras kam ho jAye, AtmAkI orakA ras baDh jAye. jabatak nahIn ho tabatak jinendra dev, guru, shAstra... shAstrakA chintavan kare, guru (evan) devakI mahimA kare. vah shubhabhAv hai, parantu shuddhAtmA bhinna hai, us shuddhAtmAko pahachAnanekA antaramen prayatna kare. (dravya-guN-paryAy) AtmAke kyA hai, pudagalake kyA hai, (usakA) vichAr karake pahachAne, usakA svarUp pahachAne.

samAdhAna- ... yah sansAr to nisAr hai. puNyake yogase yah sab milA hai, bAkI andar AtmAmen jo sukh hai vah anupam hai. usake liye bArambAr usakA vichAr karanA, chintavan karanA, shAstra paDhane, gurudevake pravachan paDhanA. paDhanese kuchh vichAr chalen. laganI lagAnI, vichAr karanA, bAharamen jinendra dev, guru, shAstra, shAstrakA chintavan, dev- gurukI mahimA rakhanI. vah sab shubhabhAvamen (jAtA hai). bAkI to sansArake bhAv, sab

PDF/HTML Page 74 of 1906
single page version

vikalpa to sansArakI jAl hai. vah sab to ashubh vikalpa hai. bAkI andar un sabase bhinna shuddhAtmA hai. use pahachAne to bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. bAkI shubhabhAv jIvane anek bAr kiye, (usase) puNyabandha hotA hai, parantu bhavakA abhAv nahIn hotA.

bhavakA abhAv to AtmAko pahachAne to hotA hai, parantu use pahachAnaneke liye usakA vichAr, vAnchan, laganI lagAye, jignAsA lagAye to hotA hai. nahIn hotA tabatak karate rahanA. usakI mahenat aur bArambAr usakA manthan karate rahanese andar AtmA pragaT hotA hai. AtmA to shuddha hI hai, shaktimen jaise pUrNa charaparAI bharI hai, vaise AtmAmen sukh aur shAnti, gnAnAdi ananta guNase bharA hai, parantu usakA use anubhav nahIn hai. anubhav nahIn hai to bArambAr usakA ghUTan karatA rahe, bArambAr vichAr, usakA manthan Adi karatA rahe to vah pragaT hue binA nahIn rahatA. chhoTIpIparakI bhAnti. bArambAr karate rahanA, jabatak nahIn hotA tabatak thakanA nahIn, usakA hI vichAr, vAnchan, laganI, jignAsA, bhAvanA usakI hI karanI, thakanA nahIn.

dvAr bandha ho to Tahel mArate rahanA, parantu thakanA nahIn, to bhagavAnake dvAr khule, yadi svayamkI bhAvanA ho to. vaise chaitanya AtmA bhI bhagavAn hai. bArambAr usake vichAr, vAnchan sab karatA rahe. main gnAyak hUn, aise bArambAr usakA manthan, Tahale mArate rahanA. thakanA nahIn. to pragaT hotA hai. bArambAr, jabatak nahIn hotA tabatak, chAhe jitane samay tak karate rahanA paDe to karate rahanA. (gurudev) bArambAr dRuShTAnta dete the, chhoTIpIparako ghisanese pUrNa charaparAI pragaT hotI hai.

mumukShu- ... tabase mere pitAjIke sAth main jAtA thA.

samAdhAna- bahut sunA hai, sabhIko shAnti rakhanI. vichAronko badal kar shAnti rakhanI. AtmAkA hI karane jaisA hai. gurudevane bahut kahA hai. yah sharIr kahAn AtmAkA hai, rog bhI AtmAmen nahIn hai, vedanA AtmAmen nahIn hai, usase bhinna AtmA hai. use, AtmA main jAnanevAlA hUn, ye rog hote hain vah meremen nahIn hai. lekin use sharIr par rAg hai isaliye usamen ekatvabuddhise juD jAtA hai, parantu andar shAnti rakhanI ki main to jAnanevAlA hUn. aisA bArambAr vichAr karanA. usase bhedagnAn karanekA prayatna kare ki main to bhinna hUn. sadA hI bhinna hUn. bAharake jo uday Aye vah merA svarUp nahIn hai. main usase bhinna hUn. usamen shAnti rakhanI.

gurudevane kahe hue tattvakA vichAr karanA, AtmAkA svarUp vichAranA, dev-guru-shAstrako hRudayamen rakhakar main gnAyak hUn, aisA vichAr karanA. main gnAyak AtmA hUn, yah rog bhinna hai, main bhinna hUn. AkUlatA andar ho to main to AtmA hUn, yah merA svarUp nahIn hai. shAnti rakhanI. bArambAr use yAd karanA-gnAyak AtmAko. sharIramen rog to AtA rahatA

PDF/HTML Page 75 of 1906
single page version

hai, rog sharIramen AtA hai, AtmAmen nahIn AtA.

(shAnti) rakhe ki main to jAnanevAlA hUn, yah rog meremen nahIn hai. aise bhinna jAne to hotA hai. ye sab merA svarUp nahIn hai, main to bhinna hUn. sab uday Ate hain, main to bhinna hUn. gurudevane kahA hai, gurudevake vAkyonko yAd karanA. main bhinna AtmA hUn. rog to sharIramen AtA hai. sanatakumAr chakravartI the, unhen bhI rog huA to muni ho gaye. andar AtmAmen lIn rahate the. rog Aye to usamen shAnti rakhanI. devonne kahA, main rog miTA dUn. rog kyA miTAnA? merA jo uday hai, us udayako kaun badal sakatA hai? unhe svayamko labdhi thI. thUk lagAye to rog miT jAye. nahIn, jo rog AyA us rogako.... karma khir jAte hain. utanI andar shAnti rakhate the. ve to samyagdRuShTi muni the aur AtmAmen chhaThThe-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate the. rog to kahIn bhI AtA hai, kisIko bhI AtA hai. uday to udayakA kAm karatA hai, parantu andarase main svayam gnAyak jAnanevAlA bhinna hUn. shAnti rakhe.

... gharamen baiThakar jo ho sake vah karanA. gharamen baiThakar bhI ho sakatA hai. bAhar jAnekA prasang, satsangakI ichchhA ho, sab sunanekI ichchhA ho, parantu vah nahIn ban pAye to gharamen baiThakar bhI ho sakatA hai. achchhe vichAr karanA, vAnchan karanA, jo ho sake vah karanA. gharamen baiThakar bhI bhAv achchhe rakh sakate hain. satsangakI ichchhA ho, parantu sharIr kAm nahIn kare to kyA ho sakatA hai? gharamen baiThakar ho sakatA hai.

mumukShu- khAs lAbh lene Aye, lekin ek mahinese bistar par hI hUn.

samAdhAna- ... dev-guru-shAstrake sAnnidhyamen AnekI ichchhA ho, lekin nahIn ho to kyA ho sakatA hai? andar AtmAmen achchhe vichAr karanA. shAnti rakhanI. ulajhan ho jAy to bArambAr shAnti rakhanI, bArambAr vichAr badalanA, bArambAr vichAr badalanA. ulajhan ho to bhI vichAr badal denA.

samAdhAna- .. jitanA kare utanA kam hai. gRuhasthonko shubhabhAv to AtA hai. shubhabhAv Aye binA nahIn rahatA. shuddhAtmAke dhyeyapUrvak, jinendra dev, guru, shAstrakI mahimA, bhakti sab gRuhasthonko AtA hai. padmanandi AchArya kahate hain, shrAvak baDe utsav Adi karate hain. gRuhasthAshramamen use shubhabhAv hote hain.

... tIrthankarakA dravya-gurudev yahAn padhAre. panchamakAlamen yahAn padhAre, mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. gurudev yahAn kaise? mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. gurudev padhAre, sabako upadesh milA, unakI vANI koI alag thI, koI atishayatA yukta, sabako jAgRut kare aisI vANI thI. ananta kAlamen aisA yog milanA mahAmushkil hai.

mumukShu- unakI bhenT hI kahAn-se ho?

PDF/HTML Page 76 of 1906
single page version

samAdhAna- kahAn-se ho? tIrthankar bhagavAn mile kahAn? unakI apUrva vANIne sabako jAgRut kiyA. usamen is panchamakAlamen..

mumukShu- pratyakSha hamako sunane milA. uttara- pratyakSha. unhonne sachchA mArga batAyA. sab kahAn andhakAramen paDe the, unhonne mArga batAyA.

... jin pratimA jin sArakhI, kahate hain. jinendrakI pratimA sthApe. banArasIdAs kahate hain. "alpa bhav sthiti jAkI, so hI jinapratimA, paramANe jin sArakhI.' jisakI alpa bhavasthiti hai, vah bhAvakI bAt hai. aisA bhAv Aye. jo bhagavAnako pahachAne vah svayamko pahachAnatA hai, svayamko pahachAnatA hai vah bhagavAnako pahachAnatA hai. aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. bhagavAnako pahachAne vah svayamko pahachAnatA hai.

mumukShu- ...

samAdhAna- .. upAdAn taiyAr ho use bhavakA abhAv hue binA nahIn rahatA. ... use bhagavAnakI vANI yA gurukI vANI milatI hai. bhale svayam svatantra karatA hai, aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA nimitta-naimittik sambandha hai. aisA nimitta, yahAn upAdAn taiyAr hotA hai.

chattArI mangalan, arihantA mangalan, sAhU mangalan, kevalipaNatto dhammo mangalan. chattArI loguttamA, arihantA loguttamA, siddhA loguttamA, sAhU loguttamA, kevalipaNatto dhammo loguttamA.

chattArI sharaNan pavajjAmi, arihantA sharaNan pavajjAmi, siddhA sharaNan pavajjAmi, kevalI paNatto dhammo sharaNan pavajjAmi.

chAr sharaN, chAr mangal, chAr uttam kare je, bhavasAgarathI tare te sakaL karmano ANe anta. mokSha taNA sukh le anant, bhAv dharIne je guN gAye, te jIv tarIne muktie jAya. sansAramAnhI sharaN chAr, avar sharaN nahIn koI. je nar-nArI Adare tene akShay avichal pad hoya. angUThe amRut varase labdhi taNA bhaNDAra. guru gautamane samarIe to sadAy manavAnchhit phal dAtA.