Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 119.

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mumukShu- karuNAmUrti pUjya bhagavatI mAtAko koTi-koTi vandan! bahinashrI! ek prashna hai ki jIvakA gnAn lakShaN jAnanese lakShya aisA AtmA prasiddha hotA hai, aisA Agamavachan hai. to sAthamen indriy nigrah, vairAgyabhAv, sansAr prati virakti ityAdi bhAvonkI AvashyakatA hai yA nahIn?

samAdhAna- gnAnalakShaNase gnAyak prasiddha hotA hai. gnAyak to gnAnalakShaNase hI prasiddha hotA hai. shAstramen AtA hai aur gurudev bhI bArambAr kahate the ki gnAnalakShaN AtmAkA asAdhAraN lakShaN hai. usase gnAyak prasiddha hotA hai. gnAnalakShaNase gnAyak prasiddha hotA hai. parantu vah gnAyakako grahaN karatA hai, to viraktike binA gnAyak grahaN nahIn hotA hai. gnAnalakShaNase gnAyakako grahaN kare vahAn virakti Aye binA gnAyak grahaN hotA hI nahIn. isaliye use grahaN karanekA mukhya upAy gnAnalakShaNase gnAyak grahaN hotA hai. gnAnalakShaNase gnAyakakI prasiddhi hotI hai.

vairAgya bIchamen Aye binA, vibhAvase bhinna hokar gnAyakako grahaN karane jAy to use vairAgya Aye binA gnAyak grahaN hotA hI nahIn. gnAyakakI mahimA Aye binA, gnAyakakA lakShaN jAne binA gnAyak grahaN nahIn hotA hai. vibhAvase virakta ho, sansArase virakta ho to hI gnAyak grahaN hotA hai. aisA use sambandha hai. gnAnalakShaNase gnAyakako grahaN kare, usamen virakti Aye (binA nahIn rahatI). sachamuchamen grahaN kare to virakti Aye binA gnAyak grahaN hotA hI nahIn. koI bolanemAtra athavA shuShkatAse grahaN kare usakI bAt nahIn hai. shuShkatAse vairAgya nahIn ho aur gnAyak grahaN ho gayA, aisA mAn le to yathArtha nahIn hai.

AchAryadev to yathArtha bAt karate haiain ki gnAnalakShaNase gnAyak prasiddha hotA hai. AtmAkA asAdhAraN lakShaN gnAnalakShaN hai. gnAnalakShaNase hI gnAyak prasiddha hotA hai. parantu virakti Aye binA gnAyak grahaN hotA hI nahIn. vah bIchamen AtA hI hai. jise gnAyak grahaN karanA ho usamen virakti bIchamen AtI hI hai. bandho taNo svabhAv jANI, AtmAkA svabhAv jAnakar bandhase virakta ho to karmamokSha hotA hai. is tarah jaise chAritradashAmen lInatAmen bhI virakti AtI hai, vaise pahale gnAyak grahaN karanemen bhI virakti hotI hai.


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chAritramen visheSh virakti hotI hai. yah bhI jo andar vibhAvase virakta hotA hai, vah virakti Aye binA gnAyak grahaN hotA hI nahIn.

samyagdarshanamen amuk anshamen virakti hai. kyonki anantAnubandhI kaShAy chhUT jAtA hai. ata virakti Aye binA gnAyak grahaN nahIn hotA. sansAr prati udAsInatA, shubhAshubh bhAvonse, sabase vibhAvase virakti Aye binA gnAyak grahaN hotA hI nahIn, aisA use sambandha hotA hai. parantu mUl lakShaN gnAyak grahaN karanemen gnAnalakShaNase grahaN hotA hai. vah mAtra vairAgya karatA rahe aur hetu gnAyakako grahaN karanekA na rakhe to gnAyak grahaN nahIn hotA hai.

vairAgya usane ananta kAlamen bahut bAr kiyA, parantu gnAyakako grahaN karanekA lakShya nahIn thA to gnAyak grahaN nahIn huA. vairAgyake sAth gnAyakako grahaN karanekA hetu honA chAhiye. hetu ho to vah gnAnalakShaNase, gnAyak to gnAnalakShaNase grahaN hotA hai. parantu usake sAth vairAgya Adi sab hotA hai. yathArtha gnAyak kab grahaN hotA hai? vibhAvase virakti ho to. sarvathA virakti bAdamen hotI hai. parantu Anshik virakti aur pratItamen to A jAtA hai. virakti Aye binA gnAyak grahaN hI nahIn hotA. aisA use sambandha hai.

jahAn gnAyak grahaN huA to usake sAth virakti, gnAn, gnAyakakI mahimA vah sab sAthamen A hI jAtA hai. aur sarva guNAnsh so samyagdarshana. usake sAth sab guN ek gnAyakako grahaN karanese, usakI pratIt, usakA gnAn, usakI lInatA Anshik lInatA hai. usakI dishA badal jAtI hai. sarva guNonkI dishA svarUpakI or muD jAtI hai. jo par sanmukh thI vah dishA gnAyak or ho jAtI hai. sarva guNAnsh samyagdarshana. sab guN usake sAth pragaT hote hain. mukhya lakShaN gnAyakako grahaN karanekA gnAnalakShaN hai. gnAnalakShaN binA gnAyak grahaN nahIn hotA. vah usakA mUl asAdhAraN lakShaN hai. gnAyakamen ananta guN hain, parantu vah gnAnalakShaNase hI prasiddha hotA hai. usIse prasiddha hotA hai.

gnAyak grahaN honeke bAd usakI svAnubhUti bhI usIse hotI hai. usake binA,.. mUl bIjako grahaN karake phir usamense vRukSha hotA hai. parantu mUlako yadi grahaN na kare to vRukShamen phal, phUl Adi bAdamen (panapatA hai). vah bIjako grahaN kare, bIchamen pAnI de to vah vRukSha hotA hai. aise mAtra vairAgyamen ruk jAy to gnAyak grahaN nahIn hotA. usakA hetu gnAyakako grahaN karanekA honA chAhiye. parantu gnAyak akelA rukhA grahaN nahIn hotA. use vibhAvase virakti ho, yah sab AkulatA hai, yah merA svabhAv nahIn hai, merA svabhAv gnAyak hai. aise virakti Aye binA gnAyak grahaN nahIn hotA. is or chhUTe to yahAn Aye aur ise grahaN kare to vah chhUTe, aisA sambandha hai. shubhAshubh donon


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bhAvonse use virakti hotI hai. dev-guru-shAstra sAthamen hote hain. use shubhabhAv jabatak hote hain tabatak hote hain, parantu use heyabuddhise Ate hain. dev-gurukA sAth use chhUTatA nahIn hai. parantu vah shubhabhAv AkulatArUp hai. isaliye use sarva prakArase main to nirvikalpa shuddhAtmA hUn. isI tarah use grahaN hotA hai. heyabuddhise sab AtA hai.

dev-guru-shAstra use nimittamen hote hain, upAdAn apanA hotA hai. dev-guru-shAstra, muni hon to bhI unhen vikalpa AtA hai, shAstra rachate hain, vah sAthamen hote hain. parantu virakti to pahale Anshik aur bAdamen adhik virakti (hotI hai). viraktikA sAth to hotA hI hai, virakti to hotI hI hai.

mumukShu- tabatak adhyAtmamen pravesh hI nahIn hotA.

samAdhAna- adhyAtmamen pravesh nahIn hotA. usakI sansAr orakI ruchi chhUTe to gnAyak grahaN hotA hai. ruchi to chhUTanI chAhiye na. ruchi, bAharakI ekatvabuddhi, bAharakI pUrI-pUrI ruchi ho aur gnAyak grahaN karanekI bAt kare to aise gnAyak grahaN nahIn hotA. ruchi antaramense chhUT jAnI chAhiye. yah kuchh mujhe nahIn chAhiye. yah sab dukhamay hai, yah sab AkulatAmay hai. pUrA sansAr dukhamay hai. sukh evan shAnti mere AtmAmen hai. yah vibhAv, vikalpakI jAl dukhamay hai. vikalpakI jAlamen use kahIn shAnti nahIn lagatI. aisI virakti antaramense AnI chAhiye, to gnAyak grahaN hotA hai. ruchi to chhUT jAnI chAhiye. aur svabhAv or ruchi jAgRut honI chAhiye.

ruchi chhUTe aur apanA astitva grahaN karanekA dhyey na ho to grahaN nahIn hotA hai. vairAgya kare, parantu ruchi astitva grahaN karanekA dhyey honA chAhiye, dhyey sAthamen honA chAhiye. usamense gnAyak grahaN kare, usamense hI use bhedagnAnakI dhArA, sabakuchh usImense hotA hai. utanA kalyANarUp, paramArthabhUt hai jitanA yah gnAn hai. gnAn arthAt gnAyak hai. utanA paramArtharUp satyArtha kalyANarUp hai, yah gnAn hai. yah gnAn use shuShka nahIn lagatA, gnAn bharapUr bharA hai. gnAn gnAyak pUrA mahimAse bharA hai. gnAn arthAt mAtra jAnapanA nahIn. gnAyak svata gnAnasvarUp hai. gnAyak pUrA ananta mahimAse bharA gnAyak ananta guNase bharA hai. gnAn yAnI mAtra jAnanA aisA artha nahIn hai. gnAyak grahaN karanemen use jitanA paramArtharUp, satyarUp, kalyANabhUt ho to yah gnAyak hai-gnAn hai vahI hai.

ab use pragaT kaise karanA? ki gnAyakako gnAnalakShaNase (grahaN karanA). gnAnalakShaNase grahaN karane kaise jAy? ki virakti Aye binA grahaN nahIn hotA. dononkA sambandha hai. grahaN karanekA mukhya lakShaN gnAnalakShaN hai.

mumukShu- chAritrase pahale shurUAt karanI aisA kuchh nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- nahIn. use gnAnalakShaNase hI grahaN kare. aisA kahA na? kahA na, gnAnalakShaNase


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usakI shurUAt us orase hotI hai. parantu vairAgya use sAthamen Aye binA nahIn rahatA. bAhar rachapachA ho, rasase bharA ho aur (kahe ki) mujhe gnAyak pragaT huA hai, vah sab bolanekI bAt hai. vah shuShkatA hai.

mumukShu- pUjya gurudevako koTi-koTi vandan! prashamamUrti pUjya bhagavatI mAtAkA dharma- prabhAvanA uday jayavant varto! ApashrIko hamAre koTi-koTi vandana. mangalamay mangal karaN, vItarAg vignAn, namon tethI thayA arhantAdi mahAna. pUjya mAtAjI! is janmotsavake mangal avasar par, yahAn upasthit mumukShuvRundakI orase ek AdhyAtmik jignAsA hai. us viShayamen Apake shrImukhase mAngalikarUpase do shabda sunaneke liye ham utsuk hain.

prashna hai ki rAgAdi bhAv honepar bhI usI vakta AtmA shuddha kaise ho sakatA hai? aur rAg aur AtmAkI bhinnatA kaise samajhamen Aye? tathApi anAdikAlase rAg-dveShake sAth ekatArUp pariNaman karatA huA AtmA bhinnapane kis vidhise pariName? yah Ap samajhAnekI kRupA kIjiye.

samAdhAna- gurudevane rAgAdise bhinna AtmA (batAyA hai). gurudevane sab samajhAyA hai. gurudevakA param upakAr hai. main to gurudevakA dAs hUn. gurudevane to sUkShma-sUkShma (samajhAyA hai). shAstronke rahasya gurudevane khole hain. rAgAdi honepar bhI shuddhatA kaise hai? yah gurudevane bahut spaShTa karake samajhAyA hai. jis vakta rAgAdi hai, usI samay AtmAmen shuddhatA hai. AtmA dravyase to shuddha hai, parantu paryAyamen ashuddha hai. dravya ashuddha nahIn ho gayA hai. dravya to svabhAvase shuddha hI hai. parantu rAgakI ekatvabuddhike kAraN par orakI ruchike kAraN vah khyAlamen nahIn AtA hai.

usakA bhedagnAn kare to ho sake aisA hai. us orakI jignAsA, bhAvanA, AtmAkI ruchi lagAye, par orakI mahimA chhUT jAy aur gnAyakakI mahimA lage to gnAyak samajhamen Aye aisA hai. mahimA lage, us prakArake vichAr kare, us prakArakA tattvakA chimvatan kare to samajhamen Aye aisA hai.

jinendra dev, guru, shAstra sabane mArga batAyA hai. kaisA mArga batAyA hai, vah svayam vichAr karake tattvase nirNay karake vichAr kare to gnAyakasvabhAv usI vakta maujUd hai. jis samay rAgAdi hai, usI samay shuddhatA bharI hai. vah shuddhAtmA pUrNa svarUpase bharA hai. usamen dravya apekShAse ashuddhatA nahIn huyI hai, parantu paryAyamen ashuddhatA hai. chaitanyadev, gnAyakadev svayam devasvarUp virAjamAn hai.

jinendra devane gnAyakadevakA svarUp batAyA. gurudevane us divyamUrti gnAyakadevakA svarUp batAyA hai. rAgAdimen sarva prakArase rAgarUp nahIn huA hai. usI samay vah dravya apekShAse shuddha hai. usake svabhAvakA nAsh nahIn huA hai. svabhAv to anAdikA shuddha hI hai.


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jaise pAnI agnike nimittase garma hotA hai to bhI pAnIkI shItalatAkA nAsh nahIn hotA hai. vaise AtmA gnAyak svabhAv anAdiananta hai. use gnAyakatAkA nAsh nahIn hotA hai. vah ananta guNonse bharapUr apUrva mahimAvant AtmA hai. usakI mahimA kare, usakA vichAr kare. tattvase usakA vichAr karake nirNay kare, usamen lInatA kare, usakA bhedagnAn kare to vah samajhamen Aye aisA hai. ekatvabuddhi honepar bhI, vibhAv honepar bhI usakA nAsh nahIn huA hai. vah to vaisAkA vaisA anAdiananta hai. usakA bhedagnAn karake dekhe.

jaise sphaTik svabhAvase shuddha aur nirmal hai, parantu par nimittase lAl, kAlA jo pratibimba uThate hain, us pratibimbarUp pariNaman sphaTikakA (hotA hai), parantu sphaTik mUl svabhAvase sphaTikako chhoDakar, usakI nirmalatA chhoDakar rangarUp nahIn hotA hai.

vaise AtmA apanA dravyatva jo svabhAv gnAnasvarUp hai, shuddha hai, use chhoDakar vah vibhAvarUp nahIn huA hai. usakA bhedagnAn ho sake aisA hai. ekatvabuddhi honepar bhI vah bhinna dekhe ki jitanA gnAn hai vahI main hUn. gnAnake atirikta rAg-dveShAdi hai, vah merA svarUp hI nahIn hai. shubhAshubh vikalpase bhI bhinna, guNabhed, paryAyabhed paDe use jAne. vibhAvase svabhAvabhed hai. guN evan paryAyase use lakShaNabhed aur ansh-anshIkA bhed hai. bAkI kathanchit guNake sAth... guN aur dravya abhed hai, aur paryAy bhI usake sAth abhed hai. parantu kathanchit bhed hai. lakShaNase aur ansh-anshIkA bhed hai.

dravya anAdiananta shAshvat hai aur abhed hai. aur guN koI apekShAse usamen lakShaNabhed aur paryAyakA ansh-anshI (bhed hai). paryAy palaTatI hai, dravya ekarUp anAdiananta rahatA hai. vibhAv aur svabhAvakA vibhAvake sAth bhed hai. un sabakA gnAn karake, pratIt karake andar jAy to vah pahachAnA jAy aisA hai. je shuddha jANe Atmane, te shuddha Atma ja meLave. jo AtmAko shuddha jAne vah AtmAkI shuddha paryAy pragaT karatA hai. shuddhAtmAkA anubhav karatA hai. rAgamen shuddhAtmAkA anubhav nahIn hai. dravya apekShAse shuddha AtmA hAjir hai, parantu usakI paryAy yadi palaTe, gnAyakakI pariNati palaTe, gnAyak- gnAyakakI pariNati gnAyakarUp ho jAy to usamen use gnAtAkI dhArA pragaT ho aur svAnubhUti pragaT ho aur usImen use muktikA mArga, munidashA Adi sab usI mArga par AtI hai. yadi vah .. kare to antarmuhUrtamen hotA hai aur na kare to use kAl lagatA hai. parantu svayamke puruShArthakI kachAs hai isaliye hotA nahIn hai.

gurudevane mArga batAyA hai, us mArgakI bArambAr svayam pratIti karake gnAyakakA raTan kare to vah pahachAnA jAy aisA hai. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA lakShyamen shubhabhAvamen rakhe. bhale shubhAshubh bhAvase AtmAkA svabhAv bhinna hai, parantu bIchamen ashubhase bachaneke liye shubhabhAv Ate hain. vah Ate hain, parantu apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. vah heyabuddhise Ate


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hain. parantu bIchamen dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, tattvakA chintavan jignAsAkI bhUmikAmen hote hain. gnAyakake dhyeyase hotA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! kahAnagurunun hArda samajAvanAr bhagavatI

mAtano jay ho! janma jayanti mangal mahotsavano jay ho!

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