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samAdhAna- ... sharIr bhinna, AtmA bhinna, andar sankalpa-vikalpa jo hote hain, vah apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. aisA antarase usakI yathArtha pratIti karake, us prakArakA bhedagnAn karake andarase vikalpa TUTakar jaisA AtmA hai, usakA vedan ho, usako svAnubhUti kahate hai.

AtmA jaisA hai, ananta guNase bharapUr, usake guNonko jo jAne, usakA vedan kare, AtmAkA Anand jo svAnubhUtimen vede, usakA nAm svAnubhUti hai. AtmAkA vedan jisamen ho, usakA nAm svAnubhUti hai. siddha bhagavAnakA jo svarUp hai, siddha bhagavAnakA ansh jise svAnubhUtimen pragaT hotA hai, siddha bhagavAn to paripUrNa ho gaye, unhen to kevalagnAn Adi ananta guN paripUrNa paryAyarUpase pragaT ho gaye, parantu samyagdRuShTiko usakA ansh pragaT hotA hai. vah gRuhasthAshramamen ho, koI bhI kAryamen ho, to bhI jab vah vikalpase chhUT jAtA hai, tab use svAnubhUti (hotI hai). sva-anubhav AtmAkA vedan hotA hai.

ananta guNase bharapUr jo AtmA hai, us rUp AtmA pariNamit ho jAtA hai. AnandarUp, gnAnarUp Adi ananta guNarUp pariNamit ho jAtA hai. usakA nAm svAnubhUti hai. jo ananta kAlamen jIvane bahut kriyAen kI, shubhabhAv kiye, shubhabhAvase puNya bandha hokar svargamen jAy, parantu jo svAnubhUti pragaT nahIn kI hai, vah svAnubhUti hI mokShakA upAy hai. parantu usakI pahale pratIt karake bhedagnAn karake, usake gnAn-dhyAnakI ugratAse, gnAtAdhArAkI ugratAse vikalpa TUTakar jo svAnubhUti-nirvikalpa dashA ki jisamen vikalpa bhI nahIn hai. vikalpa rahit, jisamen akele chaitanyakA astittva-AtmAkA astitva hai, usakA nAm svAnubhUti hai.

muumukShu- bahinashrI! usamen kyA hotA hai? anubhUti hotI hai, matalab usamen kyA hotA hai?

samAdhAna- anubhUti arthAt AtmasvarUpakA vedan hotA hai.

mumukShu- andarase Ananda AtA hai?

samAdhAna- Ananda Adi ananta guNonkA jisamen vedan ho, usakA nAm svAnubhUti hai. vah koI vANIkI, kathanakI bAt nahIn hai. vah to usake vedanamen AtA hai. AtmA

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jaisA hai, vaisA use anubhavamen AtA hai. AtmAke ananta guN, AnandAdi ananta guNonkA jisamen anubhav hotA hai-vedan hotA hai, koI alag hI duniyAmen vah chalA jAtA hai. yah vibhAvakI duniyA nahIn, parantu usakI svabhAvakI duniyA, vahI usakA svaghar hai, usamen vah bas jAtA hai. svAnubhUti, laukik anubhavase alag alag jo alaukik adabhUt dashA, jo bhUtakAlamen kabhI nahIn huyI. vah apUrva hai. jIvane sab kiyA, parantu AtmAkA svAnubhav-samyagdarshan pragaT nahIn kiyA.

gurudev kahate the ki, samyagdarshan pragaT karanA vah koI apUrva hai. jIvane ananta kAlamen.. AchAryadev bhI kahate hain ki, jinavar svAmi mile nahIn hai, samyagdarshan nahIn huA hai. ata ananta kAlamen yah donon apUrva hain. jinavar svAmi mile, lekin svayamne pahachAnA nahIn, isaliye mile nahIn hai. samyagdarshan koI apUrva hai, ananta kAlamen jIvane kabhI prApta nahIn kiyA hai. yadi prApta kiyA ho to usakA bhavabhramaN hotA nahIn. jise samyagdarshan ho, vah antaramen Age baDhatA-baDhatA apratihat dashAse jo baDhatA hai, phir kramasha use munidashA AtI hai. svAnubhUti baDhate-baDhate antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen kShaN-kShaNamen AtmAmen lIn hotA huA, munidashAmen to aisA lIn hotA hai, antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrta kShaN-kShaNamen, aisA karate-karate kevalagnAn dashAko prApta karatA hai. isaliye jise svAnubhUti hotI hai, usakA to bhavabhramaN miT jAtA hai. usakA pUrA jIvan AtmAmay ho jAtA hai. usakA pUrA jIvan palaT jAtA hai.

mumukShu- indriy sukh dukharUp hai. jaise yahAn sUI chUbhI aur dukh mahesUs huA, aisA indriy sukh bhogate hue dukh kyon nahIn mahesUs hotA?

samAdhAna- kyA indriy sukh?

mumukShu- jaise indriy sukh dukharUp hai, aisA Agamakathan bahut sunA. to jaise yahAn kAnTA chUbhAyA to dukharUp mahesUs huA, aisA indriy sukh bhogate samay dukharUp mahesUs kyon nahIn hotA?

samAdhAna- usako gnAn nahIn hai to buddhikA bhram ho gayA. AkulatA-AkulatA hai, sab AkulatAmen paDA hai. AkulatA hI dukh hai yAnI buddhikA bhram hai. kalpanAse, bhramase usane sab padAthAmen sukh mAn liyA hai. bhItaramen vichAr kare to AkulatA hai, AkulatA hai. svabhAvase viparIt vibhAv dashA sab AkulatArUp hai-dukharUp hai. AkulatA hai, AkulatAkA vedan hai. kalpanAse use sabamen sukh lagatA hai. kalpanA hai. vichAr kare to sab dukh hai. koI aisA dekhanemen AtA hai ki yah dukh hai, parantu sab dukh hai.

devalokamen jAy to devalokamen sukh lagatA hai, narkamen dukh dekhanemen AtA hai. parantu devalokamen bhI bhItaramen AkulatA hai. AkulatA hI dukh hai. mUl dukh AkulatA hai.

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bhItaramen jo AkulatA, sankalpa-vikalpakI AkulatA hai, vah sab AkulatA dukharUp hai.

jo svAdhIn sukh hai, vah usakA nAm hai, jisamen parapadArthake AshrayakI jarUrat na hove, parakI jarUrat jisamen na hove, jo sva-Ashray-chaitanyake Ashrayase-jo pragaT hove, svayam pragaT hove, svatasiddha pragaT hove, vah sukh hai. vah sukh AtmAkA svabhAv hai. jisamen parapadArthakI jarUrat paDatI hai, indrayonkI jarUrat paDatI hai, kisIke AshrayakI jarUrat paDatI hai vah sukh nahIn hai. jo parAdhIn hai, vah sab sukh nahIn hai.

gurudev kahate hain, parAdhInatAmen svapnamen bhI sukh nahIn hai. parAdhInatAmen sukh nahIn hai, dukh hI hai. svAdhIn jo apane Ashrayase-chaitanyake Ashrayase pragaT hotA hai, vahI sukh hai. vah yathArtha sukh hai.

mumukShu- vachanAmRutamen pahale bolamen AyA ki, yadi bAhar nahIn ruchatA hai to upayog andar palaT de, AtmAmen ruche aisA hai. ise prayog paddhatimen kaise rakhe? shabdamen to sunate hain, paDhate hain, lagatA hai, ruchatA bahut hai, jachatA bhI hai, lekin prayog paddhatimen andar kaise Aye?

samAdhAna- upayog palaT de. usakA upayog bAhar jAtA hai to palaT upayogako palaT de. palaTe kaise? usakI ruchi hove to palaTe. usako bAharamen aisA lage ki yah vibhAv AkulatA hai, sab dukh hai, AtmAmen sukh hai, usakI pratIt hove, usakA nishchay hove, gnAn hove tab upayog palaTe. upayog palaTanA vah to puruShArtha karake palaTatA hai, aise to nahIn palaTatA hai.

mumukShu- aise to jachatA hai na ki bAhar nahIn ruch rahA hai, phir bhI bAr- bAr upayog bAharakI or hI bhagatA hai, AtmAkI or (nahIn AtA).

samAdhAna- apanI kamI, apanI bhUl hai. apanA puruShArtha..

mumukShu- hamen abhI tak AtmAkI mahimA nahIn hai kyA ki jisase aisA lagatA hai?

samAdhAna- puruShArthakI kamI hai isaliye bAhar upayog jAtA hai. apanI mahimA lage, bAharamen sukh nahIn lage, bAharamen chain nahIn lage, AtmAke sukhake binA shAnti nahIn hove, aisA hove tab upayog bhItaramen jAya. AtmAke binA jisako chain nahIn paDatA hai, usakA upayog bhItaramen jAtA hai. jisako bAharamen chain paD jAtA hai, to upayog bhItaramen nahIn jAtA hai. bAhar chain nahIn paDe to upayog bhItaramen jAtA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! gurudevakI Tepamen (AtA hai ki) kramabaddhakA nirNay hote hI svabhAvakA nirNay ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- sab kramabaddha hai to kartAbuddhi chhUT jAtI hai. main kisIko karatA nahIn hUn, main kisIko kar nahIn sakatA hUn. svatasiddha AtmA anAdiananta hai. usakI paryAy

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bhI svayam (hotI) hai. sab kramabaddha hai. svabhAvakA nirNay dRuDh ho jAtA hai. bhedagnAn ho jAtA hai, kramabaddhakA nirNay hotA hai to. kartAbuddhi chhUT jAtI hai aur svabhAvakA nirNay ho jAtA hai. svabhAvakI dhArA pragaT honemen puruShArthapUrvak hotI hai. jisako AtmAkA kalyAN karanA hai usako, jaisA bananevAlA hotA hai, banatA hai, ThIk hai (aisA nahIn hotA). parantu jo puruShArtha karatA hai, jisakA kramabaddha achchhA hotA hai usako puruShArtha hI dhyAnamen AtA hai. jo kramabaddha hotA hai, puruShArthapUrvak hotA hai. AtmAmen puruShArtha lagatA hai, usakA kramabaddha aisA hotA hai. vah puruShArthapUrvak hotA hai. svabhAvakA nirNay kare to kartAbuddhi chhUT jAtI hai. sab kramabaddha hai.

samyagdRuShTi hotA hai usako nirNay ho gayA ki sab kramabaddha hai. parantu usakI jo puruShArthakI dhArA rahatI hai, vah aisA vichAr nahIn karatA hai ki honevAlA hotA hai. usakI to puruShArthakI dhArA hI rahatI hai. jisako AtmAkA kalyAN karanA hai, usako main puruShArtha nahIn karun, jaisA honevAlA hai vaisA hogA, aisA vichAr nahIn hotA. usakA kramabaddha achchhA hotA hai, jisako puruShArtha karanA hai, usakA kramabaddha achchhA hotA hai.

mumukShu- nirNay bhI usIkA kahalAyegA ki jisakI sahaj gati andaramen hogI?

samAdhAna- jignAsuko aisA vichAr nahIn AtA ki nirNay honevAlA hotA hai. jignAsuko to chain nahIn paDatI. main nirNay kar lUn, main aisA kar lUn. to usakA kramabaddha achchhA hotA hai. usako aisA vichAr nahIn hotA ki, bhagavAnane jaisA dekhA hogA vah hogA. jo puruShArtha kare usakA kramabaddha achchhA dekhA hai. jignAsuko to puruShArtha par dRuShTi rahatI hai. bAkI kartAbuddhi parapadArthakI chhUT jAtI hai.

samAdhAna- .. vANImen Aye aisI bAt nahIn hai. bAkI jise AtmAkI ruchi lagI, AtmAmen hI sab bharA hai, bAhar kuchh nahIn hai. AtmAmen shAnti, AtmAmen Ananda, AtmAkI apUrva mahimA, AtmA ananta-ananta gnAnase bharapUr hai, agAdh gambhIr guNonse bharapUr hai. jisake guNonkA pAr nahIn hai, aisA adabhUt AtmA jagatase bhinna, is vibhAvakI duniyAse alag jAtakA AtmA hai. vikalpa TUTakar usakI svAnubhUti hotI hai. pahale vah pratItamen AtA hai. usakI bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT (hotI hai). nirvikalpa svAnubhUti honeke bAd jo usakI bhedagnAnakI dhArA hotI hai vah sahaj hotI hai. pahale to vichArapUrvak, nirNayapUrvak karatA hai.

mumukShu- bArambAr AtA hai, svabhAv pragaT hai, pragaT hai, Ap kahate ho jIv jAgRut hai, jAgRut hai...

samAdhAna- pragaT hI hai, svayam hI hai, gupta nahIn hai. svayam vichAr kare to jAnanevAlA svayam hI hai. jo paryAy hotI hai, jo vikalpa Ave un sabako jAnanevAlA bhinna hI

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hai. parantu svayam ekatvabuddhi mAn rahA hai. use jAnanevAlA svayam (hai). dUsareko jAnatA hai isaliye nahIn, parantu svayam hI jAnanevAlA svabhAvarUp svayam hI jAnanevAlA hai. usakA jAnanekA svabhAv hai. parase usakA astitva hai, aisA nahIn, svayamse usakA astitva hai. aisA jAnanevAlA svayam virAjatA hai, lekin vah dRuShTi detA nahIn hai.

mumukShu- doSh apanA hI hai.

samAdhAna- apanA hI doSh hai, anAdi kAlase.

mumukShu- jab bhI najar kare tab sAkShAt svarUp vaisAkA vaisA..

samAdhAna- vaisAkA vaisA hai. jise AtmA... usakI bhedagnAnakI dhArA to sahaj vartatI hI hai. aisA hI hai. usakA astitva sahaj hai. jo khyAlamen le use A sake aisA hai.

mumukShu- kabhI-kabhI aisA hotA hai ki ananta kAl gayA phir bhI jAnA nahIn aur Apake mukhase sunate hain tab aisA lagatA hai ki aisA sahaj hai ki shIghra prApta kar sake aisA hai.

samAdhAna- ananta kAlakA anajAnA mArga hai, isaliye vikaT hai. bAkI apanA svabhAv hai isaliye sahaj hai. gurudevane mArga bAtakar sab sahaj kar diyA hai. kahIn kisIko bhUl na rahe, bhram na rahe aisA spaShTa mArga batAyA hai. svayamko puruShArtha karanekA bAkI rahatA hai.

samAdhAna- ... gnAyakakI ruchi hotI hai to sahaj hotA hai. use raTan karanA nahIn paDatA, use sahaj ho jAtA hai. use khaTak rahatI hai ki yah sab hai, parantu main to bhinna hUn, main to bhinna hUn. aisI usako bhAvanA rahatI hai. raTanA bhI nahIn paDatA. jisako samyagdarshan ho gayA usakI bAt to dUsarI hai, usako to sahaj bhedagnAn rahatA hai. usakA to gnAyakamay jIvan ho jAtA hai. ek AtmAmay jIvan, AtmAkI koI alag hI dishA ho jAtI hai. kyonki antarakI dRuShTi badal jAtI hai. aur jo bhAvanA hotI hai usako bhI aisI khaTak rahatI hai ki yah sab hotA hai, lekin main to bhinna hUn. raTanA nahIn paDatA. aisI khaTak rahanI chAhiye, khed honA chAhiye ki main ekatva kyon ho jAtA hUn? jo jignAsu hotA hai usakI aisI andar bhAvanA rahatI hai, bhAvanA.

mumukShu- ekatvamen khedabuddhi AtI hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, aisA ho jAtA hai ki main aise (ekatva) ho jAtA hUn. mujhe AtmAkA karanA hai, mujhe AtmAkA karanA hai. jignAsA rahatI hai, aisI bhAvanA rahatI hai. .. kaise sahaj hove? main kaise AtmA pahachAnUn? main kaise tattvakA vichAr karun? kyA dravya hai? kaise guN hain? paryAy kaisI hai? kaise main shAstra samajhun? kyA gurudevane batAyA

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hai? aisI bhAvanA bhItaramen rahatI hai. raTan karanese vikalpa ho jAtA hai. bAdamen bhAvanA hove to koI bAr raTan kare, lekin usakI aisI sahaj koI khaTak rah jAtI hai.

jaise laukikamen koI dukh hotA hai to bhItaramen khaTak-khaTak rahatI hai ki aisA kyon ho gayA? aisA kyon ho gayA? vaise AtmAkI khaTak rahatI hai to, mujhe AtmA kaise mile? mujhe AtmA kaise mile? aisI bhAvanA to rahatI hai. jignAsuko aisA rahatA hai. janma-maraN kaise miTe? aisI bhAvanA rahatI hai.

mumukShu- hamen kaisA prayAs karanA? shAstrakA abhyAs chalatA hai...

samAdhAna- sachchA gnAn kare to mArga mil jAtA hai. shAstramense mArga mile.... shAstrakA artha samajhamen na Ave to gurudevane kyA batAyA hai, usakA vichAr kare, kisIko pUchhe isakA kyA artha hai? isamense koI mArga mile to bhItaramense bhI mArga milanekA vah kAraN banatA hai. bAharakA shAstrakA svAdhyAy karanese. kuchh log svAdhyAy karate rahate hain, parantu bhItaramen vichAr na kare to kuchh samajhamen nahIn AtA, vah to pAThakI bhAnti kar letA hai. parantu vichAr karake samajhanA chAhiye.

mumukShu- nahIn, lekin yah bhI hai, jaise apanako ruchi hotI hai to phir vichAr karanekI ichchhA bhI hotI hai.

samAdhAna- hotI hai, ruchi ho to vichAranekI ichchhA hotI hai.

mumukShu- vichAr karanekI phir ichchhA bhI hotI hai. jyAdA paDh nahIn sakate. AgekA utanA tak to hotA hai, jaise ki, pIchhale sAl gnAn aur rAg alag nahIn dikhatA hai. ab do-tIn mahinese gney-gnAyak sambandha pustak paDhI, bahinashrI! vah mereko bahut achchhI lagI. usamen mereko, gnAn alag hai, rAg alag hai, aisA samajhamen to AtA hai, bAdamen kaise karanA?

samAdhAna- samajhamen AtA hai, lekin usakA bhed karanA vah alag hai. samajhamen to A jAy ki rAgakA lakShaN bhinna hai, gnAnakA lakShaN bhinna hai. gnAn to bhItaramen jAnanevAlA hai main hUn aur rAg bhinna hai. aisA samajhamen AyA, buddhimen AyA. buddhimen AyA lekin usakA bhed karanA vah dUsarI bAt hai.

mumukShu- bhed kaise karenge?

samAdhAna- vah to prayatna hove.

mumukShu- puruShArtha-prayatna karenge.

samAdhAna- prayatna kare, usakI mahimA hove, usakI jignAsA hove ki main kaise karun? laganI lage. gnAyakake binA mujhe chain nahIn paDatI. rAgamen mujhe AkulatA lagatI hai. yah AkulatA dukharUp hai. sukh hove, gnAyakamen shAnti hove, gnAyakako main kaise

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pahachAnun? usakI bhAvanA jage, usakI jignAsA, laganI lage to usakA bhedagnAn hove. binA laganIke nahIn ho sakatA. jabatak nahIn hove tabatak jAnanA apanI kShati hai, apanI kamI hai. kamI hai, jignAsA kam hai, puruShArtha kam hai. jabatak nahIn hove tabatak vichAr karanA, svAdhyAy karanA, nahIn hove tab taka. AkulatA nahIn karanA.

... bAt nahIn AtI, bhedagnAnakI koI bAt nahIn AtI hai. mAtra kriyAkI bAt AtI hai ki, aise karo, upavAs karo, yah karo, vah karo, aisA hI sab AtA hai.

mumukShu- ... aisA lagA ki ajIb-ajIb lagane lagA. paDhate hain nA to ajIb- ajIb lagatA hai. main bolatI, yahAnke pAtra hai digambar baDe rahasyAtmak hai. kabhI kuchh tarIkA batAye, kabhI kuchh nahIn karanA, nayA-nayA lagatA. paDhate vahI kA vahI saba.

samAdhAna- andarase naye-naye rahasya nikalate jAte hain. AchayAkI kathanImen gaharAI hai. bahut gaharAI hai. jIv, ajIv-ajIv, ajIv, parantu bIchamen jo rAg hotA hai, vah rAg chaitanyakI paryAyamen hotA hai, usakA nimitta karma hai. koI apekShAse chaitanyakA kahanemen Aye, koI apekShAse jaDakA kahanemen Aye, usakA bhedagnAn karanA. usakI nishchay- vyavahArakI sandhi karanA usamen bahut aTapaTA hotA hai. vichAr karake biThAnA paDatA hai.