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samAdhAna- ... vikalpa sahit Ananda hove, vah Ananda kisI bhI prakArakA ho, parantu vikalpa TUTakar Ananda Ave, apane Ashrayamense Ave, chaitanyamese utpanna huA Ananda ho, vikalpa TUTakar, jo vikalpakI AkulatA hai, AkulatA TUTakar antaramense vikalpa chhUTakar jo Ananda Ave, vah AtmAke Ashrayase AtA hai. koI vikalpa khaDe ho aur jo Ananda Ave, vah Ananda koI dUsare prakArakA hai.
mumukShu- sachchA Ananda nahIn hai.
samAdhAna- koI ullAs Ave, Ananda Ave vah alag hai. usamen shubhabhAv sAthamen rahA hai. isamen to vikalpa TUTakar svabhAvakA Ananda Ave, bhedagnAn karatA huA, gnAtAkI dhArAkI ugratA karatA huA, usamen vikalpa chhUTakar jo Ananda Ave vah Ananda alag hotA hai. svabhAvamense pragaT hotA huA Ananda hai.
vikalpase pAr honA bahut mushkil, durlabh hai. usakA abhyAs karate-karate hotA hai. pahale usakI shraddhA hotI hai ki main vikalpase bhinna hUn, main gnAyak hUn, aisI pahale shraddhA ho, bAdamen vikalpa TUTanekA prayatna bAdamen hotA hai, abhyAs karate-karate. kisIko hotA hai to antarmuhUrtamen hotA hai, nahIn hotA hai use abhyAs karate-karate hotA hai.
mumukShu- abhyAsamen bhI vikalpa dvArA hI abhyAs hotA hai.
samAdhAna- abhyAsamen bhI vikalpa to sAthamen hai. jab tak vikalpa chhUTA nahIn, tab tak vikalpa to sAthamen rahA hI hai. parantu vikalpa merA svarUp nahIn hai, usakI shraddhA bhinnatAkI rakhakar antarase jo prayatna ho vah alag hotA hai. merA svarUp nahIn hai, yah merA svarUp nahIn.
muumukShu- nirvikalpa AnandakI anubhUti hotI hai vah kitanI der TikatA hai? koI kahatA hai, bIjalIke chamakAre jitanA rahatA hai. mAlUm kaise paDe? bijalIke chamakArekI bhAnti hotA ho to mAlUm nahIn paDe. aisA hotA hai?
samAdhAna- aise svayamko mAlUm paDatA hai. use mAlUm nahIn paDatA aisA nahIn hotA. use svayamko svAnubhUtimen mAlUm paDatA hai ki yah svAnubhav hai. usakA kAl antarmuhUrtakA hai, chhoTA-baDA kaisA bhI ho, antarmuhUrtakA kAl hai.
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mumukShu- yAnI ek-do miniT...?
samAdhAna- usakA amuk kAl hai, parantu vah pakaD sakatA hai. kisIko thoDA jyAdA hotA hai, kisIko thoDA kam hotA hai, parantu vah pakaD sake aisA hotA hai. pakaD na sake aisA nahIn hotA.
mumukShu- hAn, nahIn to usakA prayojan kyA?
samAdhAna- yadi pakaD nahIn sake to... aise hI chalA jAy to svayam pakaD nahIn sakatA hai.
... puruShArthakI gati ho us anusAr hotA hai. aur gRuhasthAshramamen jaisA usakA puruShArtha ho vaisA hotA hai. munionkI to bAt hI alag hai, ve to antarmuhUrtamen kShaN-kShaNamen hotI hai. lekin gRuhasthAshramamen jaisI usakI puruShArthakI gati ho, usakI sahaj dhArA ho vaise hotA hai. usakA koI niyam nahIn hotA. phir shrAvakakI dashAmen usase visheSh hotA hai. jise deshavrat hote hain, usakI antarakI sthiratA baDhatI hai, use jyAdA hotA hai. chaturtha guNasthAnamen amuk prakArase hotA hai. parantu sabako puruShArthakI gati ek samAn ho aisA nahIn hai. usakI puruShArthakI gatikI jo sahaj dhArA ho, us anusAr hotA hai.
mumukShu- ek bAr kisIko anubhav ho gayA, phir do-chAr sAlake bAd bhI na ho, aisA banatA hai?
samAdhAna- aisA nahIn banatA. do-chAr sAl nikal jAye, aisA nahIn banatA.
mumukShu- to bhramaNA hI huyI hai na? koI aisA mAnatA ho ki mujhe samyagdarshan ho gayA hai, do-chAr sAl tak (anubhav) nahIn hotA, aisA shAstramen...
samAdhAna- do-chAr sAlakI (bAt nahIn hai). .. samayamen use hotA hI hai. do- chAr varShakA (antar nahIn paDatA). sabako yahI karanekA hai.
mumukShu- ... bahut kam kAl to rahatA hai na? samyagdRuShTi ho aur bhale...
samAdhAna- ekadam gati hai na? isaliye munionkI ginatI...
mumukShu- isaliye aisA hai. bAkI samyagdRuShTiko...
samAdhAna- usakA aisA koI niyam nahIn hai. samyagdRuShTiko paun sekaNDa hI rahe aisA niyam nahIn hai. antarmuhUrtakA usakA niyam hai. munionko ekadam gati hotI hai isaliye.
.... gnAnapUrvakakA dhyAn honA chAhiye. main yah chaitanya hUn, vah use grahaN honA chAhiye, svayamkI pragnAse ki main yah chaitanya hUn, aise grahaN hokar bAdamen usamen ekAgratA hotI hai. to gnAnapUrvakakA dhyAn (hotA hai). apane svabhAvako pahachAnakar dhyAn, apanA
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astitva grahaN karake dhyAn honA chAhiye. samajhe binAkA dhyAn kare apanA to vah dhyAn nahIn karatA hai. parantu apanA astitva grahaN karake dhyAn honA chAhiye. (apanA astitva) grahaN honA chAhiye.
samAdhAna- ... parako nahIn jAnatA hai, aisA nahIn hai. svaparaprakAshak gnAn hai. parakA gnAn usamen nahIn AtA hai, aisA nahIn hai. us shabdakA Ashay grahaN karanekA dUsareke hAthamen rahatA hai. dUsarA aisA hI kahe ki, jaisA apane mAnate hain vaisA hI kahate hain. vah to vyavahAr hai, aisA karake nikAl de. parako jAnanA vyavahAr hai, vah nishchay hai. jis prakArase artha karanA ho vaise kar sakatA hai.
nishchay-vyavahArakI sandhi aisI hai ki parako jAnatA hI nahIn hai aisA nahIn hai. parake sAth ekatvabuddhi karake parako jAnanA, aisA koI muktikA mArga nahIn hai. svayam svaprakAshak pUrvak usamen par A jAtA hai. vastu sthiti aisI hai ki svako jAnate hue par gnAt hotA hai. koI aisA khInche ki svako jAnatA hai... .. sandhikA mel nahIn AtA hai, vah... ... gurudev bhI kahate the, lekin vajan kahAn denA? aur kis lAIn par...
mumukShu- mAtAjI! thoDI aur spaShTatA ShaTakArak...
samAdhAna- ShaTakArak apanemen hai. paryAy koI svatantra vastu duniyAmen nahIn hai. akhaNDa ek dravya hai, paryAy dravyake Ashrayase hai. phir bhI use svatantra kahanemen AtA hai, vah koI apekShAse kahanemen AtA hai. jaise dravyamense ananta-ananta bhAv, ananta paryAyen pragaT hotI hai, vaise paryAyamense ananta, ek paryAyamense ananta paryAyen nahIn hotI. paryAy to ek kShaNake liye hai. usake ShaTakArak kahanemen AtA hai, vah sab apekShAse kahanemen AtA hai. ShaTakArak jo dravyamen lAgU paDate hain, vah alag prakArase lAgU paDate hain. paryAyamen lAgU paDate hain, vah dUsare prakArase lAgU paDatA hai. usakI apekShA samajhanI chAhiye.
paryAyako ekadam nikAl doge to paryAyakA vedan hI nahIn rahegA. paryAyakA vedan hotA hai, paryAy kShaNik hai, paryAyako svatantra mAnanI aur paryAyako dravyake AshrayavAlI mAnanI, usakI sandhi karanI, vah sab muktike mArgamen yathAsthit hotA hai. dravyadRuShTi mukhya rakhakar usamen paryAy sAthamen AtI hai. us paryAyako dravyakA Ashray hai, nahIn hai aisA nahIn. paryAyako svatantra bhI kahate hain. kyonki vah kShaNake liye svayam utpanna hotI hai, svayam nAsh hotI hai. lekin use Ashray dravyakA hai. dononkI sandhi karanI chAhiye. sandhi na kare to svayam bhUlA paDatA hai. usamen pharka kahAn paDatA hai? vajan kahAn denA vah samajhanevAle par AdhAr rakhatA hai. bAt ek hI hotI hai ki dravyadRuShTi mukhya rakhakar usake sAth paryAyakI bAt karate hain. jabaki dUsarA, dravyadRuShTi mukhya karake usamen svayam
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niShedh kahAn karatA hai, vah pakaD nahIn sakatA hai. parako jAnatA hI nahIn hai, aisA niShedh bhAv AtA hai, use svayam pakaD nahIn sakatA hai. usakA niShedh bhAv nahIn AnA chAhiye aur usakI ekatvabuddhi nahIn honI chAhiye. apane gnAtAkI mukhyatA rakhakar usamen paraprakAshak AtA hai. parantu paraprakAshak kahate hue koI niShedh karatA hai, koI use khInchatA hai. ab, usamen kaise sandhi karanI (vah) apaneko (karanI paDatI hai). isIliye gurudev charchAkI bAtamen paDate hI nahIn the. vAdavivAd jahAn ho, vahAnse gurudev nikal jAte the.
pAlItAnAse nikal gaye. charchA karo. to vah bole, chale gaye, chale gaye. gurudevane kahA, bhale chale gaye, sAt bAr chale gaye. hamen charchA nahIn karanI hai. isaliye gurudev charchAmen paDate hI nahIn the. nishchay-vyavahArakI sandhi hI aisI hai. kise kahAn khInchanA vah usake hRuday-Ashay par AdhAr rakhatA hai.
vahAn shAntiprasAd sAhUne, gajarAjajIke ghar par kahA, charchA karo. gurudev charchAmen paDanA hI nahIn chAhate the. ve to apane mArga par hI chalate the. kise kahAn kaise khInchanA vah apane hAthakI bAt hai. ek pakSha bAtako khInch le, to yahAn aisI bAt ho ki parako nahIn jAnatA hai, aisA nahIn hai. to phir sAmanevAle aise chalate hain ki ve log parako jAnatA hai, parako jAnatA hai, aisA kahate hain. aise lete hain. aisA hotA hai.
kShetra bhedake liye (aisA kahate hain), TUkaDe mAnate hain. TUkaDe nahIn hai, aisI apekShA kahate hain to ye log vyavahArakI (bAt) karate hain, svatantratA (nahIn mAnate hain).
mumukShu- vyavahArAbhAsI ho gaye.
samAdhAna- hAn, vyavahArabhAsI ho gaye. kisIko Ashay samajhanA nahIn hai aur khInchAtAnI karanI hai. aisA hai. muktike mArgamen nishchayapUrvak vyavahAr hai. usamen vyavahArakI nAsti nahIn AnI chAhiye aur vyavahArakI pakaD bhI nahIn honI chAhiye, aise donon samajhanA chAhiye. vyavahArako pakaDe ... nAsti bhI nahIn AnI chAhiye, to muktikA mArga hI nahIn rahegA, vyavahArakA niShedh hogA to. nishchay-vyavahArakI sandhikA ... hai. nishchay- vyavahArakI sandhi kaise karanI? nishchay-vyavahArakI sandhimen hI ulajh jAte hain.
gurudevakI nishchayakI dhUn chaDhI thI to nishchayase kahate the, parantu unakA Ashay vaisA nahIn thA. unakA Ashay andar sab sandhipUrvak thA. koI bahut khInch letA to gurudev use koDe mArate the. aisA thA. bahut khInch le to unhen pasanda nahIn AtA thA. .. samajhanA mushkil hai. bAt to ek hI hotI ho. koI aisA kahe ki ham kahate the vaisA hI kahate hain. koI is or khInchatA ho to aisI bAt kare to koI us or khInche to... lAbhake kAraN kahate hain. parantu samajhanA ki nishchayako mukhya rakhakar vyavahAr
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sAthamen hotA hai. vyavahArakA niShedh... dRuShTi vaisA niShedh kare, parantu vyavahArakA niShedh aisA nahIn honA chAhiye ki paryAy AtmAmen sarvathA hai hI nahIn.
paryAy na ho to vedan kisakA? mokShamArga kisakA? sAdhak dashA kaisI? sab kaisA? Age baDhanA kyA? kuchh bhI nahIn rahatA. muni chAritramen Age baDhate hain. vItarAgadashA pragaT karate hain. kab vItarAgatA ho? kab ho? gRuhasthAshramamen samyagdRuShTi aisI bhAvanA bhAte hain. isI kShaN vItarAgatA hotI ho to yah kuchh (nahIn chAhiye). dRuShTike joramen aisA nahIn kahate hain ki dRuShTike joramen vah sab A gayA. vah to hogA, jab honA hogA. aisA nahIn kahate. kab aisI paryAyakI shuddhi hogI? kab aisA puruShArtha hogA? kab aisI paryAy pragaT hogI? aisI shuddha nirmal paryAyen kab pragaT hogI? aisI puruShArthakI dhArA mujhe kab shurU hogI? aisI puruShArthakI bhI bhAvanA bhAte hain. dravyadRuShTi pragaT ho gayI, ab kyA puruShArtha (karanA)? dravyadRuShTimen puruShArtha A gayA. vah to ek dravayadRuShTikI bAt hai. parantu puruShArthakI bhAvanA bhI sAthamen aisI rahatI hai. kab vItarAgatA hogI? kab yah sab chhUT jAye? kab main mere AtmAkI svAnubhUtimen lIn ho jAUn? bAhar nahIn AUn, aisA divas mujhe kab AyegA? aisI bhAvanA bhAte hain. kShaN-kShaNamen aisI bhAvanA use bahut bAr A jAtI hai. sarvathA niShedh nahIn honA chAhiye. usakI mukhyatA-gauNatA hotI hai, usakA niShedh nahIn AnA chAhiye. usakA prayojan .... samajhanA chAhiye. parako jAnatA hI nahIn, to-to gnAn aur gney, sab usamense nikal jAtA hai.
mumukShu- mAtAjI! dravya aur paryAyake bhedagnAnake liye, dravya aur paryAyake bIch bhedagnAnake liye, yah paryAy is guNakI athavA yah paryAy is ..kI hai, itanA rakhakar paryAy pratikShaN apane ShaTakArakase pariNamati hai, vah kathan hai yA vAstavamen vastusthiti hai? vastusthiti arthAt dravya-paryAy milakar ek pUrI vastu hai, usakA svIkArapUrvak dravya aur paryAyakA bhedagnAn karanA ho, tab yah paryAy is dravyakI hai, athavA gnAnakI paryAy gnAnaguNakI hai, itanA rakhakar paryAy apane ShaTakArakase pariNamati hai, aisA kahanA aur paryAyakA kartA vAstavamen dravya hI hai. yah to ek apekShAse kahanemen AtA hai. in donommen vAstavikatA kyA hai?
samAdhAna- paryAyakA kartA dravya...?
mumukShu- svatantrapane apane ShaTakArakase pariNamatI hai? andarake bhedagnAnakA jab vichAr karen, paradravyakI apekShAse to aisA kahen ki dravya paryAyakA kartA hai, paryAyakA karaN hai Adi ShaTakArak dravya aur paryAyake abhed kahe. aur jab andar-andar bhedagnAnakA viShay karanA hai, tab dravya kUTastha hai aur paryAyake ShaTakArakase paryAy svayam svatantrapane pariNamati hai, aisA jo kahanemen AtA hai, svatantra pariName usamen itanI apekShA to rakhI
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hai ki yah paryAy is dravyakI hai aur yah paryAy is guNakI hai. (paryAy) apane ShaTakArakase pariNamati hai, vah vAstavamen vastusvarUp hai yA prayojanakI siddhike liye kahanemen AtA hai?
samAdhAna- vah gnAnamen jAne ki is guNakI yah paryAy hai aur is guNakI yah paryAy hai, aisA jAne. parantu vAstavamen vah paryAyakA karaN aur paryAy kartA, paryAy sampradAn, paryAy apAdAn vah yathArthamen to dravyamen lAgU paDatA hai. paryAy svatantra (hai). paryAyako guNakA Ashray hai aur paryAyako dravyakA Ashray hai. svayam dravyadRuShTi karake main shuddhirUp puruShArtha karake usakA pariNaman karun, kaise sthiratAkI nirmalatA vRuddhigat karun, kaise svAnubhUtikI or jAUn, is tarah apanI paryAyakI nirmalatA pragaT karanekI bhAvanA rahatI hai.
yadi vaise paryAy svatantra ho jAy, puruShArthakA use AdhAr na ho aur vah svatantra ho jAy to usakI bhAvanA kaise rahe ki main yah puruShArtha karun? paryAyakI nirmalatA (kaise pragaT karun)? kevalagnAn kaise pragaT ho? usamen puruShArtha to svayamko karanekA hI hai. paryAy svatantra pariName to bhI puruShArtha to svayamko karanekA hai. svatantra hai bhI aur svatantra nahIn bhI hai. usako puruShArthakA Ashray rahatA hai, dravyakA Ashray rahatA hai. dravyake Ashray binA vah paryAy Upar-Upar nahIn hotI. use Ashray to dravyakA hai.
svayamkI dravyadRuShTi hai, us dravyadRuShTikA bal baDhane par vah paryAy svatantra, pariNamatI hai svayam, parantu dravyadRuShTike balase pariNamatI hai. dravyake Ashray binA to pragaT nahIn hotI hai. use Ashray to dravya aur guNake Ashrayase paryAy pragaT hotI hai. pragaT hotI hai isaliye use pragaT kI, (aisA kahate hain). paryAy ek svatantra vastu hai, aur vah apanese pariNamatI hai. parantu usakI shaktiyAn jo hain paryAyarUp pariNamanekI vah dravyamen aur guNommen bharI hai. usamense vah pragaT hotI hai, avasthAen pragaT hotI hai. andar khajAnA bharA hai, dravya aur guNommen hai, usamense vah pragaT hotI hai. ata use Ashray to dravyakA hai. isaliye mUl vastu guN aur dravya, usamense vah pariNamatI hai.
svayam kartA, svayam karaN... svayam usamen svabhAvase kuchh dUsarA nahIn kar sakatA hai yA usamen koI pheraphAr nahIn kar sakatA hai. usakA jo paryAyakA svabhAv hai, us prakArase vah pariNamatI hai. usakI hAni-vRuddhi, usakA tAratamyatA vah kaisI, usamen svatantra hai. usamen koI pheraphAr nahIn kar sakatA. usake puruShArthako dravyadRuShTike balase usamen jo svabhAv ho us rUp pariNamatI hai. usamen vah pheraphAr nahIn kar sakatA hai. isaliye vah svatantra hai. kartA, karaN, sampradAn, apAdAna. is tarah usakA jo svabhAv hai, gnAnakA gnAnarUp, darshanakA darshanarUp, chAritrakA chAritrarUp usamen vah pheraphAr nahIn kar sakatA. usakI hAni, usakI vRuddhi, usake avibhAg pratichchhed, vah sab kaise pariName, vah svatantra hai. lekin
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usamen Ashray dravyakA hai. dravyake Ashrayase vah pariNamatI hai. Uparase nahIn AtI hai. dravyake khajAnemen vah bharA hai, usamense vah AtI hai.
mumukShu- us apekShAse dravya hI kartA hai, dravya hI karaN hai, aisA jo kahanemen AtA hai vah bhI yathArtha hai.
samAdhAna- hAn, vah yathArtha hai. dravyake khajAnemen hI vah sab bharA hai. ananta- ananta shaktiyAn ananta kAl paryant pariName, vah dravyakI shaktimen sab bharA hai. usamense paryAy pariNamatI hai. lekin paryAyakA pheraphAr (nahIn kar sakatA hai). unake jaise svabhAv hain ki, gnAnakA gnAn, darshanakA darshan, chAritrakA chAritra, usake avibhAg pratichchhed, usakI hAni-vRuddhi, usakI tAratamyatA vah sab svatantra paryAy pariNamatI hai. usamen koI pheraphAr nahIn kar sakatA. lekin jo pragaT hotA hai vah dravyamense pragaT hotA hai. dravyake bAharase nahIn pragaT hotA. use dravyakA Ashray hai. isaliye vah dravyadRuShTike balase, lInatAke balase, samyagdarshanake balase nirmal paryAyen pragaT hone lagatI hai.
jabatak dRuShTi bAhar thI, tabatak vibhAv paryAy pariNamatI thI. dRuShTi apanemen gayI isaliye svabhAv paryAyen pariNamane lagI. jo apane svabhAvamen bharI hai, vah sab paryAyen pragaT hone lagI. vItarAg dashA hotI hai, vahAn kevalagnAn Adi pragaT hotA hai. vah svayam pragaT hotA hai, parantu use Ashray (dravyakA hai). dravyamen kevalagnAnakI shakti hai, usamense vah pragaT hotA hai. dravyamen shakti hai, gnAnaguNamen shakti hai. vah sab guN dravyamen hI abhedarUp rahe hain. ek-ek guN bhale hai svatantra, parantu dravyamen abhedarUpase rahe hain. usamense paryAy pragaT hotI hai. isIliye use usakA vedan hotA hai. paryAy bhinna, guN bhinna aur usakA vedan bhinna (aisA nahIn hai). guN apekShAse, paryAy apekShAse, sangnA apekShAse bhed hai. parantu vah sab shaktiyAn dravyamen hai, dravyamense vah paryAyen pragaT hotI hai. ata vAstavik rItase dravyamense (pragaT hotI hai), isaliye dravya usakA kartA, karaN, sampradAn dravya hai. parantu svatantra paryAy pariNamatI hai. vah pariNamit hokar jo bAhar AtI hai, vah svayam svatantra pariNamatI hai. isaliye vah svayam kartA, karaN is tarah paryAyako svatantra lAgU paDatI hai. kaisI nirmalatA, kaise avibhAg pratichchhed, kaisI tAratamyAt, is tarah svatantra hai.