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mumukShu- Aj subah Tepamen AyA thA ki kevalagnAnI sarva Atmapradeshase jAnate hain. to svAnubhUtimen bhI sarva pradeshase AtmA gnAt hotA hai?

samAdhAna- use kahAn kevalagnAn pragaT huA hai, use to kShayopashamagnAn hai.

mumukShu- parantu vah to pratyakSha hai na?

samAdhAna- Anshik vedan pratyakSha hai.

mumukShu- vedan pratyakSha hai, pradesh pratyakSha nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- pradesh nahIn hai, vedan pratyakSha hai.

mumukShu- to sarva pradeshase?

samAdhAna- use jIvake pradesh dab nahIn gaye hain. use nirAvaraN asankhya pradeshamen amuk ansh to khulle hI hain. usake khulle anshase jAnatA hai.

mumukShu- indriyagnAnamen to barAbar hai ki amuk anshonse jAnatA hai. parantu atIndriy vedanake kAlamen?

samAdhAna- vah jAnatA hai lekin jo kevalagnAnI jAnate hain, vaise vah nahIn jAnatA hai. vedan pratyakSha hai. thoDA jAne aur thoDA na jAne, aisA nahIn hai. pUre AtmAko jAnatA hai.

mumukShu- pUre AtmAko lekin sarva pradeshase?

samAdhAna- hAn, sarva pradeshase pUre AtmAko jAnatA hai. use bhed nahIn paDatA hai ki itane pradesh jAne aur itane pradeshase nahIn jAnatA hai, aisA bhed nahIn paDatA. sarva pradeshase, sarvAng vedan hotA hai. amuk pradeshamen vedan hotA hai aur amukamen nahIn hotA hai, aisA nahIn hai. sarvAngase vedan hotA hai aur sarvAngase vah jAnatA hai.

mumukShu- gnAn bhI sarvAngase...?

samAdhAna- gnAn bhI sarvAngase aur vedan bhI sarvAngase. thoDA vedan hai aur thoDe pradeshamen nahIn hai, yA thoDemen gnAn hai aur thoDemen nahIn hai, aisA nahIn hai. sarvAngase gnAn aur sarvAngase vedan hai. parantu vah vedan pratyakSha hai. kevalagnAnIkA gnAn pratyakSha hai.

mumukShu- sampUrNa pratyakSha hai.

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samAdhAna- sampUrNa pratyakSha hai.

mumukShu- andaramen shAntikI dhArA chalatI hai. prachur Ananda kahate hain, prachur Ananda. vah prachur kitanA? mAp kyA?

samAdhAna- bArambAr kShaN-kShaNamen antar AtmAmen jAtA hai na. shuddhaupayogakI dhArA bArambAr pragaT hotI hai. bAhar AtA hai aur antaramen jAtA hai. antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen andar jAtA hai aur antarmuhUrtamen bAhar AtA hai, antarmuhUrtamen antaramen jAte hain. ata prachur svasamvedan hai. bArambAr.. bArambAr.. bArambAr.. bArambAr antaramen jAte hain. aur kaShAy to bilakul alpa ho gaye hain. sanjvalan ekadam patalA ho gayA hai. vItarAg dashA vRuddhigat ho gayI hai. vItarAg dashA vRuddhigat ho gayI hai isaliye Ananda bhI baDh gayA hai.

mumukShu- prachur ho gayA hai.

samAdhAna- prachur ho gayA hai. bAr-bAr antaramen jAte hain aur vItarAg dashA ekadam baDh gayI hai. isaliye Ananda prachur svasamvedan hai.

mumukShu- gurudev to chale gaye, ab gurudevakI bahut yAd AtI hai, hamen kyA karanA?

samAdhAna- yAd Aye to gurudevane jo mArga batAyA, us mArgako grahaN karake usakA abhyAs karanA. gurudevane jo kahA hai, use yAd karanA. mArga batAyA, antaramen dRuShTi karanekA. use andar pIghalAnA, usakA vichAr karanA, usakA abhyAs karanA. vah karane jaisA hai. jo gurudevane kahA vahI karane jaisA hai.

mumukShu- bahut-bahut dhanyavAda. Apane bahut kRupA karake bahut achchhA mAl diyA.

samAdhAna- (gurudevane) mArga batAyA hai.

mumukShu- bahut batAyA hai, bahut batAyA hai. bahut spaShTatA kI hai.

samAdhAna- ekadam spaShTa karake khullA kar diyA hai. sab kriyAkANDamen aur shubhabhAvase dharma mAnate the. usamen ekadam antar dRuShTi aur dravyadRuShTi batA dI, svAnubhUti batAyI. aur barason tak vANI barasAyI.

mumukShu- barAbar hai, barAbar hai.

samAdhAna- tIrthankar jaisA kAm is panchamakAlamen kiyA. dravya-guN-paryAyakI kisIko shankA nahIn rahI, aisA kiyA hai.

mumukShu- kuchh bAkI nahIn rakhA. likhA hai na? mAngamen tel bhare, ek-ek mAngamen aise ek-ek pahalU spaShTa kiye hain.

samAdhAna- sab pahalU khulle kiye.

mumukShu- sabakA kAm bahut jalda ho jAyagA.

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samAdhAna- ek hI mantra gurudevane diyA hai, gnAyak AtmAko pahachAna. svamen ekatvabuddhi, parase vibhakta ho jA. to vahI svAnubhUtikA mArga hai.

samAdhAna- .. pIchhe paDe to hue binA rahe nahIn. svayam hI hai, anya koI thoDA hI hai. parantu pahale usakA kAraN pragaT kare. abhI to vibhAvakI ekatvabuddhi khaDI hai. svamen ekatvabuddhi, parase vibhakta-(bhinnatA) kare to usakA mArga ho. vah buddhi-ekatvabuddhi to khaDI hI hai. vibhAvakI ekatvabuddhi. svayam svayammen ekatva kare, (vibhAvase) vibhakta kare to vikalpa TUTanekA prasang Aye. abhI to ekatvabuddhi hai. ekatvabuddhi hai usamen vikalpa kaise TUTegA?

bahut log dhyAn karake vikalpa.. vikalpa.. vikalpa.. chhoDane jaisA hai (aisA kahate hain), parantu kaise chhUTenge? vikalpake sAth ekatvabuddhi khaDI hai. isaliye hote hain. ... (AtmAkA) svarUp to chaitanya to gnAyak svabhAv-jAnanekA svabhAv hai, jAnanevAlA hai. ananta-ananta shaktionse bharA huA. jis shaktikA kahIn ant nahIn hai, aisI shaktikA nAsh nahIn hotA. ananta guNonse bharapUr adabhut tattva hai. jo gnAnasvabhAv ananta-ananta hai, jisakA ant nahIn AtA. pUrNa lokAlokako jAne to bhI vah to ananta-anantatAse bharA huA ananta lokAlok ho to jAne, aisI usakI gnAnashakti hai.

vaisI usakI Anandashakti hai. ananta kAl tak pariNamatA rahe to bhI usakA Ananda kam nahIn hotA. aisI ananta-ananta shaktionse bharA huA AtmA hai. aise ananta guN- ananta shaktionse bharA aisA chaitanyatattva hai. usakI mahimA aur usakI adabhutatA koI alag prakArakI hai. usakI mahimA Aye, usakI ruchi ho to jIvanamen vah kartavya hai. bAkI ye bAharakA to sab paradravya hai. yah sharIr to paradravya hai, vibhAv svabhAv AtmAkA nahIn hai. vah to puruShArthakI mandatAke kAraN vah vibhAvamen juDatA rahatA hai aur bhrAntise yah sab merA hai, aisA mAnatA hai. usake sAth ekatvabuddhi kar rahA hai.

chaitanya svabhAvamen svayam svayammen ekatvabuddhi kare aur parase vibhakta-usakA bhedagnAn kare aur main chaitanyatattva gnAyak hUn, is tarah svayammen ekatvabuddhi karake parase kShaN-kShaNamen bhedagnAn kare vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai. bhedagnAn karake gnAyakakA bArambAr-bArambAr usIkA prayatna karake, usIkA abhyAs karake vah pragaT karane jaisA hai.

vikalpakI jAl AkulatArUp hai. ye vibhAv svabhAv AkulatArUp hai, sukh svarUp nahIn hai. sukhakA dhAm, AnandakA dhAm to AtmA hai. isaliye bArambAr vah kaise pragaT ho? vikalpa TUTakar nirvikalpa dashA, svAnubhUti kaise pragaT ho? vah pragaT karane jaisA hai. vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai. usake liye tattva vichAr, svAdhyAy, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, chaitanyakI mahimA Adi sab is gnAyakatattvako pragaT karaneke liye karanA hai.

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satyArtha vah hai. vikalpa TUTakar svAnubhUti ho aur svAnubhUtikA ansh pragaT ho vahI muktikA mArga hai. svAnubhUtikI dashA baDhate-baDhate pUrNatA prApta hotI hai. ata vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai. dravya par dRuShTi karake vahI karane jaisA hai.

mumukShu- dravya par dRuShTi, aisA Apane kahA, arthAt dravyakI jo anupam mahimA Apane batAyI, aisA main hUn, aisA nirNay karake us or svayamkA lakShya karanA, use dRuShTi kahate hain? yA vastu jaisI hai vaisI jAnakar shraddhA karanI, use dRuShTi kahate hain?

samAdhAna- pratham use pahachAn lenA ki chaitanyatattva yah hai, aisA mahimAvant hai. aise pahachAnakar us par dRuShTi karanI. us dRuShTimen koI bhed nahIn paDatA. apanA astitva grahaN karatA hai ki yah chaitanya hai so main hUn. use svabhAvamense grahaN kare. ek buddhise nirNay kare vah alag bAt hai. bAkI antar dRuShTi karake use barAbar pahachAne, us par dRuShTi kare. usakI dRuShTi kaho yA pratIt kaho, jo bhI kaho sab ek hai. dRuShTi, pratIta. usake sAth gnAn yathArtha (hotA hai ki), yah chaitanya main hUn. usake sAth pariNati bhI us or (jAtI hai ki) vah kShaN-kShaNamen bhedagnAn kare. vah bhedagnAn pahalese nahIn hotA hai, usakA abhyAs kare to hotA hai.

pratham to yathArtha svAnubhUtike bAd jo yathArtha gnAyakakI dhArA pragaT ho, vah alag hotI hai. pahale to vah mAtra abhyAs karatA hai ki main gnAyak hUn, main gnAyak hUn, yah main nahIn. aisA abhyAs (karatA hai). yathArtha gnAyakakI dhArA aur kartAbuddhi TUTakar jo gnAtAdhArA pragaT ho vah svAnubhUti honeke bAd yathArtharUpase hotI hai, sahajarUpase hotI hai. usake pahale to vah abhyAs kare, parapadArthakI kartAbuddhi chhoDe ki main parapadArthakA kar nahIn sakatA, main chaitanya gnAyak-gnAtA hUn. aise pahale to abhyAs kare. bAdamen yathArtha hotA hai aur sahajarUpase bAdamen hotA hai.

mumukShu- prayatnapUrvak svayam parapadArthase bhinna hai, main gnAn aur Ananda hUn. aise nirNay karake svarUpakI or jhukatA hai, vikalpake dvArA aur jab usakA us or jor baDh jAy, tab vikalpa TUTatA hai?

samAdhAna- hAn, jor baDhe to hI. to hI vikalpa TUTatA hai. mAtra manda-manda ho usamen nahIn TUTate. yathArthapane usakA jor, dravyadRuShTikA jor baDhe to vikalpa TUTe.

mumukShu- aur Apake jo vachan nikale hain, un par gurudevane sab spaShTIkaraN kiyA hai aur Apake mukhase vANI sunakar bhI mujhe bahut Ananda huA hai. aur vAstavamen ... bahut santoSh hotA hai ki mahAbhAgyashAlI hain ki bhagavatI mAtA Ap pratyakSha hamAre sAmane maujUd hon, Ap darshan dete hon. gurudevane ApakI pahachAn nahIn karavAyI hotI to khyAlamen bhI nahIn AtA, Apako pahachAn nahIn sakate.

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samAdhAna- satyArtha yahI hai. muktikA mArga gurudevane yahI darshAyA hai. antaramen vah koI alag tattva hai, sukhakA dhAm vah hai, gnAnakA dhAm vah hai, AnandakA dhAm vah hai, koI adabhut tattva hai. usakI mahimA lAkar vahI karane jaisA hai.

mumukShu- adhik mahimA kaise Aye?

samAdhAna- vah svayam kare to hotA hai. parapadArthakI mahimA TUT jAy aur svabhAvakI mahimA Aye ki vAstavamen svabhAv koI alag chIj hai. gnAyak-gnAnasvabhav koI alag hI hai, chaitanya koI alag hI hai aur yah sab tuchchha hai. vibhAv svabhAv AdaraNIy nahIn hai. vah koI AtmAko sukharUp nahIn hai, AkulatArUp hai, viparItarUp hai, apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. yah svabhAv so merA nahIn hai, merA svabhAv koI alag hI hai. aisA nirNay ho to usakI mahimA Aye. (chaitanyakI) ruchi ho to mahimA bhI usImen samAviShTa hai. ruchike sAth mahimA samAviShTa hai.

mumukShu- ruchi aur mahimA...?

samAdhAna- hAn, donon ek hI hai. ruchi, mahimA, usakI lagana. parapadArthakI tuchchhatA bhAsit ho to apanI apUrvatA bhAsit ho.

mumukShu- bArambar yah bAt sunane par bhI us or muDaneke liye jIv adhik puruShArtha kyon nahIn kar sakatA hai?

samAdhAna- anAdise abhyAs parapadArthakI or hai, ruchi usamen juDI hai. jitanI tIvra ruchi apanI or chAhiye utanI karatA nahIn hai, isaliye puruShArtha nahIn hotA hai. parapadArthakI or, vibhAvakI or aTak rahA hai. vibhAvamen usakA puruShArtha juD rahA hai. isaliye apanI or mandatA rahatI hai. apanI orakI ugratA ho ki yah kuchh nahIn chAhiye, mujhe ek AtmA hI chAhiye, aisI ugratA ho to puruShArtha apanI or muDe.

mumukShu- apane doShase-apanI bhUlase hI dukhI hotA hai.

samAdhAna- apanI bhUlase svayam dukhI hotA hai. nirmal svabhAv AtmA hai. jaise pAnI nirmal hai, vaisA svayam sphaTik jaisA nirmal hai. parantu bhrAntike kAraN main malin ho rahA hUn, aisI use bhrAnti ho gayI hai. usakI paryAyamen mAtra use ashuddhatA hotI hai. svayam palaTe to ho sake aisA hai. parantu svayamkI mandatAke kAraN aTak rahA hai.

mumukShu- nij shuddha svarUpakA jab andarase svIkAr ho, tab paryAyamen shuddhatA ho.

samAdhAna- tab hotI hai. shuddhAtmAko pahachAne, barAbar usakI pratIt ho, us or pariNati ho to shuddha pariNati ho. ashuddha pariNati gauN ho. pUrNatA to bAdamen hotI hai, parantu pahale ansh pragaT hotA hai.

mumukShu- atIndriy AnandakA anubhav hai vah jagatakI koI vastuke sAth darshA

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sakate hain yA samajh sakate hain?

samAdhAna- koI dRuShTAntase samajhAyI nahIn jAtI. kyonki vah atIndriy hai. usamen indriyonkA Ashray nahIn hai. svayam apane Ashrayase pragaT hotI hai. jo sukhakA dhAm hai, svatasiddha vastu hai usamense Ananda pragaT hotA hai. use jagatakI koI vastuke sAth mel nahIn hai. kyonki ye padArtha jaD hain, viparIt svabhAv hai, vibhAvabhAv bhI viparIt hai. isaliye usakA kisIke sAth mel nahIn hai. indrakA indrAsan, devalok hai vah sab bhI vibhAvasvabhAv hai, vibhAvakA phal hai. phir puNyake jitane bhI prakAr hain, unhen shuddhAtmAke sAth mel nahIn hai. ata usakI koI upamA nahIn hai. jaise viSh aur amRut bilakUl bhinna hain, vaise yah bhinna hI hai.

... AtmAkI mahimA aur svAdhyAy Adi karane jaisA hai. ananta kAlamen jIvane samyagdarshan prApta nahIn kiyA hai, aisA shAstramen AtA hai. bAkI sab prApta ho gayA hai. ek jinavar svAmI aur samyagdarshan prApta nahIn kiyA hai. parantu jinavar svAmI mile hain, lekin svayamne pahachAnA nahIn hai. isaliye ve bhI nahIn mile hain, aisA kahanemen AtA hai. aur samyagdarshan koI apUrva vastu hai, use prApta nahIn kI. bAkI sab jagatamen prApta ho gayA hai. isaliye yah ek apUrva hai. isaliye us apUrvatAkA puruShArtha karanA vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai.

mumukShu- vAstavamen hitakI bAt hai, vaisA karane jaisA hai.

samAdhAna- vistAr kar-karake mArgako ekadam spaShTa kar diyA hai. kisIkI kahIn bhUl na rahe, itanA mArga spaShTa kiyA hai. puruShArtha karanA apane hAthamen hai. apane puruShArthakI mandatAse svayam rukA hai.

mumukShu- bahut spaShTIkaraN huA, is kAlamen gurudev dvArA bahut spaShTIkaraN huA. aisA yog milane par bhI samyagdarshanakI prApti nahIn huyI aur yahAnse deh chhUT gayA to jIvakA kahIn bhI gUm jAnA hogA, yah barAbar hai?

samAdhAna- samyagdarshanakI prApti nahIn huyI, parantu yadi usakA abhyAs svayam (karatA ho), usakI bhAvanA gaharI ho aur antarakI gaharAIse svayamko yathArtha lagan lagI ho to kahIn bhI jAy to bhI use puruShArtha ho sakatA hai. aisA avakAsh rahatA hai. parantu yadi gahare sanskAr na ho to vah bhUl jAtA hai. bAkI usake sanskAr gahare ho, tIvra bhAvanA ho ki mujhe AtmA hI chAhiye, aisI bhAvanA ho to vah kahIn bhI jAy vahAn pragaT honekA, puruShArthakA avakAsh rahatA hai.

mumukShu- gahare sanskAr kise kahate hain? gahare sanskAr arthAt..?

samAdhAna- mujhe gnAyak AtmA chAhiye aur kuchh nahIn chAhiye. aisI tIvra bhAvanA

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andar rahatI ho ki ek AtmA sukhakA dhAm, AnandakA dhAm, ek gnAyak AtmA (hI chAhiye). vikalpakI jAl kuchh nahIn chAhiye. ek chaitanya nirvikalpa tattva jo mahimAse bharA hai, vahI chAhiye, dUsarA kuchh nahIn chAhiye. aisI gaharI ruchi yadi andaramen ho aur usake binA chain nahIn paDatA ho, vah kahIn bhI sphUrit hue binA nahIn rahate. use bAhya sAdhan prApta ho jAte hain aur usakA puruShArtha bhI jAgRut ho jAtA hai. aise sanskAr andaramen ho to.

mumukShu- aise sanskAr lekar jIv kadAchit anya gatimen jAy to aise nimitta prApta ho sakate hain.

samAdhAna- prApta ho jAte haiain. apanI bhAvanA anusAr jagat taiyAr hI hotA hai. bhAvanA gaharI na ho vah alag bAt hai. apanI bhAvanA gaharI ho to jagat taiyArI hI hotA hai.

mumukShu- apane upAdAnakI taiyArI ho to nimitta kahInse bhI hAjir ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- nimitta hAjir ho jAtA hai. aisA nimitta-naimittik sambandha hai.