Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 160.

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mumukShu- rAg aur gnAn bhinna hai, yah kaise nakkI karanA?

samAdhAna- rAgakA svabhAv bhinna hai aur gnAnakA svabhAv bhinna hai. rAg hai vah AkulatArUp hai. rAg kahIn shAntirUp nahIn hai. vah to AkulatArUp hai, viparIt svabhAv hai. aur AtmAkA svabhAv jAnanekA hai-gnAyaka. vah gnAyak hai vah shAntirUp hai, AnandarUp hai. aur rAg hai vah AkulatArUp hai. isaliye dononke svabhAv bhinna hai, ata donon bhinna hain.

do bhinna-bhinna svabhAv ho, vah kisI bhI prakArase ek nahIn ho sakate. jaise shItalatA pAnIkA svabhAv, agnikA uShNatA svabhAv hai. uShNatA aur shItalatA donon virUddha svabhAv hai. vaise rAg aur gnAn donon virUddha svabhAv hai. isaliye donon bhinna hain. dononke lakShaN bhinna, jinakA svabhAv bhinna hain, vah donon vastu hI alag hai. gnAn bhinna hai, rAg bhinna hai, donon bhinna hain. isaliye dononko lakShaN pahichAnakar bhinna karanA ki AtmA shAnti, gnAyak-jAnanevAlA hai aur rAg hai so AkulatArUp hai. dononko lakShaNase bhinna karanA ki yah jAnanevAlA main aur ye rAg main nahIn hUn.

gnAyakamen lInatA karanI, gnAyakako grahaN karanA, gnAyakakI or dRuShTi karanI vahI muktikA mArga hai. rAgako apanA mAnA, rAg-or dRuShTi karanese paribhramaN utpanna hotA hai. usIse janma-maraN hote hain. rAgase, yah sharIr Adi bandhatA hai aur anek jAtake bhav prApta hote hain. gnAyakako jAnanese bhavakA abhAv hotA hai aur chaitanyakI svaparyAy shuddha paryAyakI utpatti hotI hai. isaliye gnAyakako jAnanA. usamen hI Ananda, shAnti, sukh sab usamen bharA hai. donon vastu hI bhinna-bhinna hain.

gurudev kahate the, bhagavAn AtmA bhinna hai aur ye bhinna hai. utanA hI AtmA hai (ki jitanA yah gnAn hai). jitanA rAg hai vah vibhAv hai. jahAn-jahAn rAg dikhe, jo-jo pariNamanamen vah sab vibhAv hai. gnAn hai vahI AtmA hai, gnAyak hai vahI AtmA hai. vahI sarvasva hai aur bAkI sab par vibhAv hai. vastu hai, koI alag vastu hai. use grahaN karanese usakI jo adabhUt paryAyen hain vah pragaT hotI hai.

mumukShu- Ananda gnAyakabhAvamense-svabhAvamense hI AtA hai? yA usake guNamense AtA


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hai? paryAyamen AtA hai?

samAdhAna- vah guNamense pragaT hotA hai. Ananda..

mumukShu- AnandaguN kahAnse pragaT hotA hai?

samAdhAna- AnandaguN hai vah apanA svabhAv hai. svabhAvamense paryAy pragaT hotI hai.

mumukShu- vedan paryAyamen hotA hai?

samAdhAna- vedan paryAyamen hotA hai, parantu vah pragaT hotA hai, usake AnandaguNamense paryAy pragaT hotI hai. usamense pragaT hotA hai. chaitanya pUrA gnAyak hai, gnAyakamen ananta guN hai. gnAn hai, darshan, chAritra, Ananda, bal Adi ananta guN hain. Ananda AnandaguNamense pragaT hotA hai. aur vah gnAyak AtmAkA guN hai. gnAn gnAnamense pragaT hotA hai, darshan darshanamense, Ananda Anandamense, bal balamense pragaT hotA hai. parantu vah abhed AtmAke guN alag TUkaDe nahIn hai, vah AtmAkA hI svabhAv hai. ananta guNase bharA AtmA, usamense paryAy pragaT hotI hai. vedan bhale paryAyakA ho, parantu vah paryAy pragaT hotI hai, chaitanyake guNamense pragaT hotI hai. chaitanyake guNamense pragaT hotI hai.

mumukShu- ananta guN hai to ananta guNakA vedan paryAyamen ho sakatA hai?

samAdhAna- paryAyamen hotA hai.

mumukShu- paryAyamen ek sAth hotA hai?

samAdhAna- paryAyamen ek sAth hotA hai. usake gnAnamen jAn sakatA hai ki ye ananta guNakI paryAy usake vedanamen AtI hai. usake nAm bhale nahIn Ate ho, parantu use vedanamen jAn sakatA hai. chetan-or dRuShTi rakhanese vikalpa TUTakar jo svAnubhUti hotI hai, us svAnubhUtimen ananta guNakI paryAyakA vedan hotA hai. vedan paryAyakA hai. paryAyamen vedan hotA hai, parantu vah vikalpa TUTakar hotA hai. nirvikalpa dashAmen hotA hai. savikalpatAmen to use bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT hotI hai. gnAyakatA.

anAdiananta hai. shAshvat tattva hai. use kisIne banAyA nahIn hai. svayam shAshvat hai, anAdiananta hai. us chaitanyako pahichAnanekI jarUrat hai. AtmA gnAnasvabhAvase bharA gnAyakatattva hai. jAnanevAlA hai. ye kuchh jAnatA nahIn hai. andar jAnanevAlA chaitanyatattva bhinna hai. vikalpa ho vah bhI apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. AtmA chaitanyatattva anAdiananta hai. AtmA svayam sarvaguNasampanna ananta shaktionse bharA hai. use kisIne banAyA nahIn hai. koI Ishvar ho aur use banAye, vah to svatasiddha vastu hai. svayam chaitanyatattvako pahachAne, andar use lagan lage to pIchhAne. dev-guru-shAstra use batAte hain, jinendra dev, guru aur shAstra. gurukI pratyakSha vANI barasatI thI, koI apUrva mArga darshAte the. us mArga par jAy to vastu samajhamen Aye aisA hai. koI alag hI mArga hai andara. donon tattva hI bhinna-


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bhinna hain.

sab bhinna-bhinna tattva hain. chaitanyatattva bhinna hai. sabakA AtmA bhinna, sab apanA- apanA puruShArtha dvArA kar sakate hain. parantu anAdise bhramaNA hai ki sharIr so main, ye sab main, bAharamen sabamen ekatvabuddhi kar rahA hai. chaitanyakI or dRuShTi kare to karanA vah hai. usakI lagan lagAnekI jarUrat hai. gurudevane kyA kahA hai, usakA vichAr karanekI jarUrat hai. gurudevane koI alag mArga batAyA hai. vastu-dravya, guN, paryAy ananta shaktionse bharA tattva hai. use pahachAnanekI jarUrat hai.

shAstrommese apane Ap samajhe to... gurudevane jo kahA hai, gurudevake jo pravachan.. pahale shurUAtamen to gurudevake pravachan paDhe to usamense samajhamen Aye. mUl shAstramense abhI kuchh samajhamen nahIn AtA ho use mushkil paDatA hai.

.. to yathArtha phuruShArtha ho. samajhan hI sachchI na ho to yathArtha puruShArtha kahAn- se ho? abhI puruShArtha karanekI paDI na ho, andar lagan lage, AtmAkI jarUrat lage to puruShArtha ho na. ruchi sab bAhar paDI ho to andar jarUrat nahIn lage to puruShArtha kahAnse ho? antaramen jAy to koI apUrva AtmA hai, usakI svAnubhUti ho, usakA Ananda Ave. parantu svayamko jarUrat laganI chAhiye na.

svAnubhUti koI apUrva vastu gurudevane batAyI hai. sabakuchh andar hI hai. svayam nitya hai aur paryAy badalatI hai. ek vastumen hai. badalatA koI aur hai, nitya koI aur hai. ek nitya vastu hai, usImen pariNaman hotA hai. svabhAvarUp pariNamanA apane hAthakI bAt hai. svabhAv to anAdiananta nitya hai.

mumukShu- anubhUtimen AnandakA kuchh varNan hamen sunAIye.

samAdhAna- vah koI kahanekI bAt hai? AtmA anupam hai. usakA Ananda anupam, usakA svabhAv anupama. ananta guNonse bharA AtmA hai. ananta guN, jahAn usakI nirmal paryAy pragaT ho, vah anupam hai usakA Ananda. use koI upamA lAgU nahIn paDatI. vah koI anupam hai. vikalpa TUTakar jo svAnubhUtikA Ananda Aye vah anupam hai. koI upamA nahIn hai ki usake sAth mel Ave.

mumukShu- bahinashrIko lipaTakar rahenge unakA bhI beDA pAr hai. tattva bhale kam samajhe.

samAdhAna- gurudevake charaN mile vah sab bhAgyashAlI hai. panchamakAlamen gurudevake charaN sabako lambe samay tak mile hain. vANI barasAyI hai. aise kAlamen aise mahA satpuruShakA yog prApta honA, bahut mushkil durlabh hai.

mumukShu- aisI tAkat hai ki nitya nigodamense manuShya bhavamen pratham bAr Akar


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samyagdarshan prApta kar sake? pUrva sanskAr kuchh bhI nahIn ho to bhI.

samAdhAna- manuShya hokar prApta kar sakatA hai. AtmA hai na. use pUrva sanskAr ho to hI (prApta ho aisA nahIn hai). vah jabase kare tabase sanskAra. jabase kare tabase shurUAt hotI hai. manuShya bhav prApta kar turanta prApta kar sakatA hai. nigodamense nikalakar hue hain, phir rAjAke kumvar hue hain, muni ho gaye. use koI lambA kAl nahIn chAhiye. AtmAkA svabhAv svayam svabhAvase hI bharA hai. svabhAvamense svabhAv pragaT hotA hai. isaliye use kAlakI yA lambe sanskArakI jarUrat nahIn paDatI. jabase kare tabase sanskAra. svayam sanskArase hI bharA hai. svayam svabhAv hI aisA hai ki usamense pragaT ho.

.. lAgU nahIn paDatA. pAnIkA shItal svabhAv usamense pragaT hotA hai. vah sirpha malin ho gayA hai. isaliye usamen amuk auShadhi DAle to nirmalatA pragaT hotI hai. vaise yahAn svayammen bharA hai, kuchh bAharase nahIn lAnA paDatA. bAhar vANI mile, gurukA upadesh mile, dev mile ekadam svayam puruShArtha kare to svayam andarase pragaT hotA hai. vah svayam apanemense uchhalatA hai.

jaise kahate hain na, samudra madhyabindumense uchhalatA hai. vaise apanA svabhAv svayam puruShArtha kare to apanemense pragaT hotA hai. anAdi kAlase usakA abhyAs nahIn hai isaliye use dev-guru-shAstra Adi nimitta milate hain.

mumukShu- aisA shaktivAn padArtha hai, use khyAlamen nahIn AyA?

samAdhAna- agnAnake kAraN hI khyAlamen nahIn AyA. anAdikAlase usImen jo pravAh hai us pravAhamen chalA jAtA hai. anAdise vApas hI nahIn muDatA hai. koI darshAnevAle mile to use andar ruchi ho to vah samajhatA hai, nahIn to apane pravAhamen anAdise chalA jAtA hai. jo pravAh chalA, shubhAshubh bhAvakA pravAh chalA usamen chalA jAtA hai. shubhabhAv karake svargamen gayA. to svargakA bhav ananta kAlamenn ananta bAr mile. to bhI usImen paribhramaN karatA hai. sab bhav usane ananta bAr kiye.

mumukShu- paryAy jo shuddhatArUp rahanI chAhiye vah kyon nahIn TikatI?

samAdhAna- usakA ek hI kAraN hai, svayamkA hI kAraN hai, use dUsarA koI kAraN lAgU nahIn paDatA. apanI mandatA hai, puruShArthakI mandatA hai. dUsarA koI use rokatA nahIn, karma rokatA nahIn, koI rokatA nahIn hai. apanI mandatAkA kAraN hai. svayam bAhar dauDatA hai aur atanramen jAnA vah apane hAthakI bAt hai. anAdi kAlase svayam hI svanyake kAraN janma-maraN hote hain aur jIv mokSha jAtA hai to apane puruShArthase jAtA hai. svayam kare to hotA hai. svayam pariNati badale, muktikI paryAy pragaT karanI vah jIvakI apane hAthakI bAt hai. aur bAhar jo ekatvabuddhi karatA hai vah bhI apanA kAraN


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hai, anya kisIkA kAraN nahIn hai. ... mArga batAyA, parantu puruShArtha karanA apane hAthakI bAt hai. gurudevane kahA hai, tU svayam svatantra hai. isaliye tU kar to hogA.

mumukShu- ...

samAdhAna- karanA to svayamko hI hai. pUrA badalAv lAnA hai, tIvra ho to hotA hai. jaisA kAraN apanA vaisA kArya Ave. manda kAraN ho to manda kArya Ave aur tIvra kAraN ho to tIvra Ave. bhedagnAn to svayam sva-parako dononko bhinna karanA hai. svabhAv aur svabhAvako. joradAr kAraN ho, tIvra puruShArtha ho to ho sakatA hai. lagan aur utanA puruShArtha ho to hotA hai. usakI jhankhanA, kShaN-kShaNamen usakI jhankhanA ho to hotA hai.

.. bhAvanA karate rahanA, puruShArtha karanA apane hAthakI bAt hai. na ho tab tak bhAvanA karate rahanA. shuddhAtmA kaise pragaT ho, usakI. puruShArthakA abhyAs karanA. na ho to bhAvanA karanI. usakA bhedagnAnakA abhyAs kShaN-kShaNamen kare, bhAvanA karatA rahe, puruShArtha ho to kare, na ho to bhAvanA rakhanI. ye chaitanyakA svabhAv, yah vibhAv svabhAv hai. vibhAv AkulatArUp hai, chaitanyakA svabhAv shAntirUp, AnandarUp, gnAtA svabhAv gnAyak hai. parako kar nahIn sakatA, svayam apane svabhAvakA kar sakatA hai. vibhAv pariNAm sab AkulatArUp hai. svayam shAntirUp aur apanemen pariNaman karanevAlA hai. par padArthakI or usakI ekatvabuddhi karatA hai, vah usakI bhUl aur bhrAnti hai. usamense kaise chhUTakar bhedagnAnakA abhyAs karanA, bas, usakA abhyAs karanA, usakI bhAvanA karanI. puruShArtha jo ho sake vah karanA. bAkI puruShArthakA kAraN apanI mandatAkA kAraN hai, nahIn hotA hai vaha. tIvratA ho to hotA hai. parantu usake liye koI AkulatA kAm nahIn karatI. usakI bhAvanA rakhakar dhairya rakhakar shAntise kArya ho aisA hai.

samAdhAna- .. bhAvanA rakhanI. tIvratA ho to ... svabhAv hI aisA hai. gurudevane bhavakA abhAv honekA mArga batAyA. janma-maraN kaise Tale? muktikA mArga antaramen hai. antaramense khojanekA prayatna karanA chAhiye. is panchamakAlamen gurudev mile to muktikA mArga darshAyA. .. dRuShTi karavAyI, chaitanyako koI pahachAnatA nahIn thA. bAharase kriyA kare to dharma hotA hai, aisA mAnate the.

... ananta janma-maraN kiye usamen is AtmAko pahachAnanA. AtmA shAshvat hai. koI adabhUt AtmA hai. gnAyakakA raTan rakhanA. gnAyak koI alag (hai). usamen Ananda, usamen ananta guN, sab usamen hai. ye vibhAv svabhAv AtmA nahIn. usakA bhedagnAn kShaN- kShaNamen karanA. vibhAvase virakti ho, svabhAvakI mahimA Ave. usake lakShaNase pahachAnanA ki yah .. hI hai. jo jAnanevAlA, jisamen chetanatA hai, jAnanevAlA hai vah AtmA


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hai. svamen ekatva (kare). main chaitanya shAshvat anAdiananta hUn. ananta janma-maraN kiye to bhI chaitanya to vaisAkA vaisA shAshvat hai. usake ananta guN yA usakA svabhAv nAsh nahIn huA. vaisA kA vaisA hai. use pahachAnanA, vah upAy hai. use pIchhAnanekA prayatna karanA, usakA vichAr karanA, usakA abhyAs karanA. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA aur AtmAkI mahimA antaramen rakhakar tattvakA vichAr karanA, yah usakA upAy hai.

ananta kAlase parapadArtha.. sva-parakI ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. ekatvabuddhi toDanI. parake dravya-guN-paryAy aur sva dravya-guN-paryAy donon bhinna hain, use bhinna karanA. yah usakA upAy hai. AtmA koI apUrva adabhUt vastu hai. use prApta karaneke liye usake vichAr, usakI pratIt, us jAtakI lInatA vah sab karane jaisA hai.

use lakShaNase pahachAnanA. AtmA svayam gnAnalakShaN hai. koI vastuko pIchhAnanI ho to lakShaNase pahachAnate hain na? bhinna karanA. shakkarakA mIThA svabhAv hai, kAlIjIrIkA kaDaA svabhAv hai. use svabhAvase pIchhAnA jAtA hai. vaise AtmAkA jAnanekA lakShaN hai. ye pudagal kuchh jAnatA nahIn. jo jAnatA hai vah main hUn. jisamen Ananda hai, jo jAnatA hai vah main hUn. is prakAr lakShaNase pahichAna. lakShaNako pIchhAne binA vah bhinna kaise hogA? isaliye lakShaNase pIchhAnanA.

anAdikA anajAnA pahachAnA nahIn jAtA. lakShaNase pahachAna. aur gurudev mArga darshAte hain ki tU bhinna koI apUrva hai. ye jo anAdikA hai vah apUrva nahIn hai. vah sarvasva nahIn hai, vah rakhaneyogya nahIn hai. AtmA hai vahI rakhaneyogya aur AnandarUp hai. ye sab to dukharUp hai. itanI pratIt antaramense AnI chAhiye. usakA gnAnalakShaN kabhI nAsh nahIn huA. vah jAnanevAlA sadA jAnanevAlA hI hai. antaramense shAnti Ave, antaramense gnAn Ave, anntaramense ananta guNakI paryAyen antaramense pragaT hotI hai. bAharase kuchh nahIn AtA hai.

usakI lagan lagAte rahanA. usakA puruShArtha karate rahanA, usakA abhyAs karate rahanA. jab tak nahIn hotA tab tak chaitanya hUn, main chaitanya hUn, main chaitanya hUn, usakI bhAvanA karatA rahe, usakA prayAs karate rahanA, bhedagnAn karanekA.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amRut vANIno jay ho!