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mumukShu- jIv, sharIrase divArakI bhAnti bhinna hai, (yah) paramArtha aur vah satya hai. sAthamen vyavahArakI sandhi rakhanI jarUr hai? rakhanI ho to kaise rakhanI?

samAdhAna- sharIrase to bhinna hai, atyant bhinna hai. sharIr to jaD hai, AtmA chaitanya hai, to ekadam bhinna hI hai. jaD aur chaitanya, donon alag hai. vyavahArakI sandhi to utanI hI hai ki use amuk bhav ekakShetrAvagAhI hai, utanA vyavahArakA sambandha hai. ek ke bAd ek jo bhav dhAraN karatA hai, vah ekakShetravagAhI sambandha, kShetrAvagAharamen rahe hain utanA. yah dev hai, yah nArakI aisA kahanemen AtA hai. usake sAth utanA vyavahAr hai. sharIrake sAth utanA asadabhut vyavahAr hai. sharIr aur AtmA, jaD aur chaitanya, donon viruddha svabhAvI atyant bhinna hain. jaD hai aur chaitanya hai.

mumukShu- samayasAramen AtA hai ki..

samAdhAna- bhagavAnakI stuti Adi hotA hai, vah AtA hai?

mumukShu- rAkhako masalane jaisA hotA hai. yadi bilakUl bhinna paramArtha aur ekAnta ho jAye to machchharako bhasmIbhUt..

samAdhAna- hAn, utanA sambandha hai, ekakShetrAvagAhI hai, isaliye. sarvathA bhinna ho to jaise hinsA karanemen pAp nahIn hai aisA ho jAye. utanA sambandha hai, ekakShetrAvagAhI hai utanA sambandha hai. to phir hinsA hotI hI nahIn, aisA ho jAye. jaise masalanemen pAp nahIn hai, vaise jIv jo sharIr dhAraN kare use masalanemen pAp nahIn hai, aisA artha ho jAtA hai. sambandha hai.

mumukShu- ekAnta ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- ekAnta ho jAye to vaisA artha ho jAtA hai. vaisA ekAnta nahIn hai. paramArthase bhinna hai, lekin ekakShetrAvagAhase sambandha hai. nahIn to hinsAkA abhAv siddha ho jAye. isaliye ekakShetrAvagAhI sambandha hai. vah vyavahAr bIchamen AtA hai. dayAkA vikalpa Aye, aisA sambandha hai.

mumukShu- use gnAnamen rakhanA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, gnAnamen jAne ki sambandha hai, ekakShetrAvagAhI sambandha hai. nahIn

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to hinsAkA abhAv siddha ho jAye. rAkhako masalanemen jaise pAp nahIn hai, vaise jo chInTI, mankoDA Adiko masalanemen pAp nahIn hai, aisA artha ho jAye. vaisA ekAnta nahIn lenA chAhiye. paramArthase bhinna hai. sarvathA ekAnta nahIn lenA chAhiye. gnAnamen khyAl rakhanA. dayAkA shubh vikalpa Aye, use bachAnekA vikalpa Aye binA rahatA nahIn. phir usake AyuShya anusAr hotA hai, parantu svayamko bachAnekA vikalpa AtA hai. nahIn to hinsAkA abhAv siddha hogA, barAbar hai.

mumukShu- aisI sandhi sAthamen rakhanI.

samAdhAna- hAn, vah sandhi sAthamen rakhanI. vah hinsAkA (huA), vaise stutikA, bhagavAnakI stutikA. bhagavAnakA sharIr dekhakar bhagavAn aise hain, bhagavAn aise hain, aisA kare. bhagavAnakA sharIr aisA hai, aisA stutimen bhI AtA hai, shubh (vikalpa AtA hai). utanA sambandha gnAnamen rakhanA hai.

mumukShu- paramAtma prakAshamen AtA hai, dehamen jIv basA hai, asadabhUt vyavahAranayase, jUThI nayase...

samAdhAna- asadabhUt vyavahAr hai, lekin aisA vyavahAr hai sahI, vyavahAr hai.

mumukShu- bahinashrI! samayasAramen dUsarI ek bAt AtI hai, nau tattvakA shuddhanayakI dRuShTise nirUpaN dvArA shuddha svarUp samajhAyA hai, aisA upodaghAtamen likhA hai.

samAdhAna- kyA nau tattvakA?

mumukShu- nau tattvakA shuddhanayakI dRuShTise nirUpaN dvArA shuddha svarUhap samajhAyA hai, aisA samayasArake upodaghAtamen likhA hai. to is nau tattvako shuddhanayakI dRuShTise kaise dekhanA?

samAdhAna- shuddhanayakI dRuShTise main shuddha hI hUn. usamen nau kA jo bhed paDatA hai, usamen grahaN ek ko karanA. ek chaitanyadravya main hUn, bAkI sab paryAy hai. main ek chaitanya hUn. isaprakAr chaitanyakI dRuShTise dekhanA, ek shuddhanayase grahaN kara. nau kahanemen AtA hai, lekin ek ko grahaN karanA. un nau ke bIchamen rahA ek, us ekako grahaN karanA.

mumukShu- samvar, nirjarAmen usI prakArase?

samAdhAna- sabamen vaise lenA. samvar, nirjarAmen main ek chaitanya akhaNDa hUn. vah sab bhed hai. sAdhakadashAke bhed hai, mokShaparyAyake bhed hain, vah sab bhed hai. un bhedake bIchamen main ek chaitanya akhaNDa dravya hUn, aise grahaN karanA. main ek chaitanya hUn. nau tattvako jAnakar grahaN ek chaitanya shuddhAtmAko karanA hai. ek chaitanya main hUn. nau tattvakI paripATI chhoDakar hamen ek AtmA prApta ho, ek chaitanyadravya prApta ho. us ek ko grahaN karane jaisA hai. ek chaitanyako grahaN kar lenA. main ek shuddhAtmA hUn. ye sab paryAyake bhed hai.

mumukShu- paryAyake bhed gnAnakA viShay ho jAtA hai?

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samAdhAna- hAn, vah gnAnakA viShay ho jAtA hai, parantu grahaN ek ko grahaN karanA. dRuShTi aur gnAn sAthamen hI rahe hain. dRuShTike sAth gnAn rahA hai aur samyaggnAnake sAth dRuShTi rahatI hai. nau tattvake bIch ek AtmAko grahaN karanA. ... dRuShTise jAne nau tattva, dRuShTi aur gnAn donon sAthamen rahate hain. dRuShTi aur gnAn donon sAthamen hain. ek AtmA grahaN karanA.

ek AtmA prApta ho, dUsarA kuchh prApta (nahIn ho). prApta ho yAnI usamen paryAyamen AyI. parantu ek AtmA, nau tattva par dRuShTi nahIn hai, akelA AtmA, ek AtmA hI hamenn (prApta) ho, hamen aur kuchh nahIn chAhiye. yah to ek bhAvanA hai, lekin nau tattvamain ek AtmAko grahaN karanA. bhUtArtha dRuShTise ek AtmAko grahaN karanA. dRuShTi ek AtmA par hI hai. usamen gnAnamen sab A jAtA hai. parantu grahaN ek AtmAko karanA.

mumukShu- vyavahAr dvArA paramArtha..

samAdhAna- hAn, paramArthako grahaN karanA. vyavahAr par dRuShTi nahIn hai. dRuShTi ek paramArtha par hai.

mumukShu- .. vyavahAr dvArA shuddha svarUpakA nirUpaN kiyA hai?

samAdhAna- hAn, aisA bhI AtA hai. bhed dvArA abhedako grahaN karanA. "paramArthano upadesh em ashakya chhe'. vyavahArake binA paramArthakA upadesh nahIn hotA. isaliye bIchamen vyavahAr-gnAn, darshan, chAritrakA bhed paDatA hai, usamen ek AtmAko grahaN karanA. sIdhA ek AtmAko samajhakar, jo gnAn, darshan, chAritrako prApta ho vah AtmA, aisA vyavahAr bIchamen AtA hai. grahaN ek paramArthako karanA, bIchamen vyavahAr (Aye) use jAnanA. paramArtha aur vyavahAr dononko jAn lenA.

mumukShu- grahaNakA artha?

samAdhAna- us par dRuShTi karanI, grahaN kar lenA ek shuddhAtmAko.

mumukShu- Alamban?

samAdhAna- hAn, Alambana. us ekake Alambanase paryAyakI sAdhanA hotI hai. grahaN ek paramArthako karanA, bIchamen vyavahAr Aye use jAnanA. paramArtha aur vyavahAr dononko jAn lenA.

mumukShu- dRuShTikA, gnAnakA, chAritrakA sabakA ek hI prakArase puruShArtha hotA hai yA dRuShTimen adhik puruShArtha chAhiye?

samAdhAna- ek yathArtha dRuShTi pragaT ho to usake sAth sab puruShArtha A jAtA hai.

mumukShu- prakAr ek hI hai?

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samAdhAna- puruShArthakA prakAr ek hI hai. ek AtmAko grahaN kiyA, usakI shraddhAkA bal AyA, usake sAth lInatAkA bal AtA hai. lInatA bAdamen hotI hai, pahale ek shraddhA pragaT hotI hai. anAdikAlase mArga anajAnA hai, us apekShAse samyagdarshan durlabh hai. usakI apekShAse. ek samyagdarshan prApta huA isaliye use mArga sIdhA aur saral ho gayA. sIdhe, saral mArgako jAn liyA. isaliye use anAdikAlase durlabh kahA jAtA hai aisA samyagdarshan, kyonki ekatvabuddhi thI, mArga jAnA nahIn thA, isaliye mArgako jAne binA idhar-Udhar bhaTak rahA hai. mArga jAnA aur AtmA hAthamen A gayA, isaliye use shraddhA-samyagdarshan prApta huA to use mArga sIdhA, saral ho gayA. pUrA bhav pAr Utar gayA. ananta bhavasAgarase pAr Utar gayA, ab thoDA bAkI rahA. isaliye samyagdarshan ananta kAlamenn prApta karanA durlabh hai. vah prApta huA to usake sAth sab Aye binA rahatA hI nahIn. gnAn aur chAritra Adi sab AtA hai. dRuShTi-ek shraddhAkA bAl, ek shraddhA pragaT huI to usake sAth lInatA hue binA nahIn rahatI. kisIko jaldI Aye aur kisIko bAdamen AtI hai, dhIre-dhIre Aye. parantu chAritra Aye binA nahIn rahatA. chAritra yAnI lInatA. dhruvake Alambanamen shraddhA AyI aur dhruvake Alambanamen lInatA AyI. vah lInatAkA puruShArtha aur vah shraddhAkA puruShArtha hai. puruShArtha ek hI hai, mArga ek hI hai.

mumukShu- pratham (shraddhA) karanI hai us apekShAse dRuShTikA puuruShArtha durlabh hai.

samAdhAna- durlabh hai. samyagdarshan durlabh hai. samyagdarshan prApta huA to usane mArga jAn liyA. use lInatA hogI hI.

mumukShu- usamen gnAnakA puruShArtha A gayA?

samAdhAna- jo mUl vastuko jAnatA hai, use amuk gnAn, thoDA gnAn ho to vah Age jAtA hai. isaliye gnAnakA puruShArtha to bIchamen use visheSh nirmalatA (honekA kAraN hai), dravya-guN-paryAy (gnAnamen) visheSh nirmal ho to use mArgamen saralatA rahatI hai. bAkI gnAnakA koI alag puruShArtha nahIn karanA paDatA. dRuShTike sAth amuk gnAn ho to use lInatA, vItarAgatA baDh jAye to kevalagnAn ho jAtA hai. adhik jAne isaliye adhik jAnanekA puruShArtha karanA nahIn paDatA. vah to bIchamen AtA hai. sachche gnAn binA mArga jAnanemen nahIn AtA. isaliye mArga jAnaneke liye vah jAnanA paDatA hai. bAkI mUl prayojanabhUt jAne (to) mArga sIdhA ho jAtA hai aur saral ho jAtA hai.

samyaggnAn durlabh hai. lekin adhik jAnanA, vah to bIchamen kisIko adhikA jAnanA AtA hai aur kisIko adhik jAnanA nahIn AtA hai. adhik shAstra jAnane paDe aisA usakA artha nahIn hai. andar gnAnakI nirmalatA baDhatI jAye, svarUp pariNati-gnAyakakI

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pariNati baDhatI jAye, vah usakA gnAn hai. gnAyakakI pariNati baDhatI jAye, gnAtAkI dhArA baDhatI jAye. dRuShTikA bal, gnAtAkI dhArA baDhatI jAye, yahAn lInatA baDhatI jAye, vah andar hai. adhik jAnanA aisA gnAnakA koI alag puruShArtha nahIn hai. vah to bIchamen khaDe rahaneke liye AtA hai. andar lInatAmen Age nahIn baDhatA hai isaliye shAstra-shrutagnAnamen- khaDA rahatA hai. bIchamen shrutagnAn Aye binA nahIn rahatA.

dRuShTikA puruShArtha aur lInatAkA puruShArtha, donon hote hain. dRuShTi-shraddhA dhruvake Alambanase pragaT huI, us dhruvake Alambanamen lInatAkA puruShArtha karatA hai. shraddhA aise huI ki ye sab kuchh Adarane jaisA nahIn hai, ek chaitanyako grahaN (kiyA), chaitanya use hAthamen A gayA. use svAnubhUti ho gayI, lekin us svAnubhUtimen rahaneke liye lInatAkI kamI hai, isaliye lInatAkA puruShArtha dhruvake Alambanamen visheSh-visheSh (hotA jAtA hai). shraddhAkA bal barAbar hai, lekin lInatAkI kamI hai, lInatAkA puruShArtha karanA bAkI rahatA hai, usamen bIch-bIchamen gnAn A jAtA hai. bhedagnAnakI dhArA, gnedagnAnakI dhArAkI ugratA vah usakA gnAn hai. bAkI adhik jAnanA vah gnAn, vah to bIchamen AtA hai. AgamagnAna.

mumukShu- sachchA puruShArtha to dRuShTikA puruShArtha hI hai.

samAdhAna- dRuShTi pragaT huI, dRuShTikI nirmalatA hotI hai aur bhedagnAnakI dhArA baDhatI jAtI hai aur lInatA baDhatI jAtI hai.

mumukShu- gnAnakA koI alag puruShArtha hai, aisA kuchh nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- gnAnakA koI alag prakArakA puruShArtha nahIn hai. usakA yathArtha bhedagnAn ho gayA, AtmAko pahachAn liyA, usake dravya-guN-paryAy pahachAn liye, vastuko pahachAn lI, usakA svabhAv-vibhAv pahachAn liyA, mUl prayojanabhUt usane pahachAn liyA, phir jyAdA dalIl, jyAdA yukti Aye, adhik shAstragnAn (ho), aisA to use bIchamen khaDe rahaneke liye, andarase bAhar Aye tab shrutagnAnamen khaDA rahatA hai. bAkI use adhik jAnanA paDe aisA nahIn hai. kisIko samyagdarshan ho aur andar lInatA baDhatI jAye, svAnubhUti dhArA aur virakti baDhatI jAye to guNasthAn baDhatA jAye, pAnchave, chhaThThe, sAtaven guNasthAnamen A jAye. aisA banatA hai.

gnAn yAnI antarakI bhedagnAnakI dhArA baDhatI jAye, bAkI dUsarA shAstragnAn jyAdA ho, aisA koI sambandha nahIn hai. thoDA AtA ho aur shreNI lagAkar kevalagnAn prApta kare. kisIke sAth vAdavivAdamen khaDA nahIn rah sake, yukti-dalIlamen khaDA nahIn rah sake. aisA ho to pragaT ho aisA nahIn hai. antarakI bhedagnAnakI dhArA aur dRuShTikA evan lInatAkA bal baDhatA jAye.

mumukShu- samyagdarshan hI mukhya vastu huI, aisA lagatA hai.

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samAdhAna- samyagdarshan aur lInatA. samyagdarshan ho to lInatA hotI hai. lInatA binA kevalagnAn nahIn hotA. kitane sAlon tak chakravartIko gRuhasthAshramamen samyagdarshan hotA hai, phir bhI lInatA nahIn ho to kevalagnAn nahIn hotA. darshan aur chAritra, gnAn bIchamen AtA hai. samyaggnAn sAthamen hotA hai. usamen bhedagnAnakI dhArAkI ugratA hotI jAtI hai. ... nahIn Aye tabatak gnAn karatA rahatA hai.

samyagdarshanake pahale bhI jignAsuko vichAr karanA rahatA hai aur samyagdarshan honeke bAd use gRuhasthAshram ho to lInatAmen der lagatI hai. to shAstragnAn, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, pUjA, bhakti, shAstragnAn karatA rahe, shrutagnAn kare.

mumukShu- nahIn to pramAdamen chalA jAye.

samAdhAna- hAn, nahIn to chalA jAye. vahAn khaDA rahatA hai, jabatak pragaT nahIn ho tabataka. gnAn, yah main hUn aur yah nahIn, aise bhinnatA karatA hai. main yah hUn aur yah main nahIn hUn, aise donon karatA hai. gnAn sab vivek karatA hai. parase bhinna, vibhAvase bhinna aur ansh jo paryAyabhedase bhinna, vah dRuShTimen rahatA hai. parantu gnAnake vivekamen pharka paDatA hai.

mumukShu- sab vivikShA gnAn karatA hai.

samAdhAna- vah gnAn karatA hai. vivekake liye bIchamen gnAn rahatA hai. gnAn, isaprakAr sAdhakadashAmen upayogI hai.

mumukShu- dRuShTi to yah main, yah main, us or hI...

samAdhAna- yah main, us or hI rahatI hai. bIchamen gnAn vivek karatA hai.

mumukShu- gaharA abhyAs karaneke liye kyA karanA chAhie? bAharake kAm chhoD denA?

samAdhAna- svayam andarase svAdhyAyakA samay DhUnDh lenA. kAm aise nahIn hone chAhiye ki svayamko vichAr, vAnchanamen aDachan kare. itanA kAm hotA hai ki vAnchanakA, vichArakA samay hI nahIn mile, aisA ho, itanI pravRutti ho to kAmako kam karake nivRutti mile aisA rakhanA chAhiye. apanI shakti anusAr kitanA chhUTe, bAkI svayamko nivRutti mile, vAnchan, vichArakA samay mile isaprakArake maryAdit kAm honA chAhiye. gRuhasthAshramamen amuk prakArake kAm to hote hain, parantu svayamko nivRutti mile itanA (kAm rakhanA chAhiye). bojhA baDhAkar phir samay hI nahIn mile aisA to nahIn honA chAhiye. chhoDanA, nahIn chhoDanA vah to svayamkI ruchi par AdhArit hai. bAkI gRuhasthAshramamen svayamko vichAr, vAnchanakA samay mile itanA to honA chAhiye.

pahalese sab chhUT nahIn jAtA, lekin andar jignAsA, gnAyakako pahachAnanekA prayatna

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kare, sharIr bhinna, main bhinna AtmA, ye vibhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai, usakA bhedagnAn karanekA prayatna kare, use pahachAnaneke liye prayatna (kare). svayamke dravya-guN-paryAy kyA, dUsareke kyA, in sabakA vichAr karaneko, prayatna karaneke liye shAstra-abhyAs, vichAr, vAnchanakA samay mile, us prakArakI pravRutti gRuhasthAshramamen hotI hai. bAkI antarase sab chhUTe vah to yathArtha samyagdarshan ho, antarase pahale chhUTatA hai, bAdamen bAharase chhUTatA hai. parantu jignAsuko aisI pravRuttikA bojh nahIn hotA ki jisase nivRutti hI nahIn mile, svAdhyAyakA samay hI nahIn mile, aisA nahIn honA chAhiye. chhUT jAye to-to achchhA hI hai, lekin chhUTatA nahIn ho to vAnchan, vichArakA samay mile us anusAr honA chAhiye. aisI maryAdit pravRutti honI chAhiye.

mumukShu- bahinashrI! shurUAt shubhabhAvase hotI hai yA tattvachintanase shurUAt karanI chAhiye?

samAdhAna- tattvachintavanase shurUAt hotI hai, usamen shubhabhAv sAthamen hotA hai. tattvachintavanako koI pahachAnatA nahIn hai to pahale shubhabhAv karake mAnate hain. anAdikA abhyAs aisA hai ki thoDe shubhabhAv kar lete hain aur mainne bahut kiyA aisA mAn lete hain. parantu shurUAt to tattva chintavanase hotI hai. lekin tattva chintavanake sAth shubhabhAv hote hain. shubhabhAv chhUT nahIn jAte. shubhabhAv sAthamen hote hain aur tattva chintavan hotA hai. tattva chintavanake sAth shubhabhAv to hote hI hain.

mumukShu- mukhya tattvachintavana.

samAdhAna- dhyey tattvachintavanakA honA chAhiye. dhyey vah honA chAhiye. pUrA din usamen Tik nahIn pAye to phir.... us tattvachintavanake sAth shubhabhAv to hote hI hain. use dev-guru-shAstrake darshan, bhakti, vichAr, vAnchan Adi bhinna-bhinna prakArake shubhabhAv hote hain. parantu dhyey chintavanakA honA chAhiye. dhyey, AtmAko kaise pahachAnun, vah honA chAhiye.

mumukShu- .. bahut achchhI bAt kI thI, dRuShTikA jor aur gnAn to bIchamen khaDA rahatA hai, AtmArthItAmen, jignAsAkI bhUmikAmen gnAn khaDA rahatA hai, sAdhakako bhI gnAn khaDA rahatA hai. nishchayamen to dRuShTi aur lInatA, do kA hI kAm hai.

samAdhAna- mokShamArgamen vah hotA hai, bIchamen gnAn hotA hai. gnAn bIchamen vivek karatA hai. phir gnAn adhik yA kam, usake sAth koI sambandha nahIn hai.

mumukShu- dRuShTikA jor baDhatA jAye aur bhedagnAnakI dhArA bhI sAth-sAth baDhatI jAye.

samAdhAna- bhedagnAnakI dhArA sAthamen baDhatI jAye. gnAn usaprakArakA baDhatA hai ki

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bhedagnAnakI dhArA baDhatI jAtI hai. bhedagnAnakI ugratA aur lInatA aur dRuShTikA jora. gnAnamen bhedagnAnakI dhArA. bAkI adhik jAnanA, vah nahIn. bIchamen adhik jAne to ThIk hai. nirmalatA ho aur svayamkI sAdhakadashAmen ek puShTi, use samajhanekA ek jyAdA kAraN hotA hai. gnAn vivek karane vAlA hai, gnAn sab mArga batAne vAlA hai, gnAn sAthamen ho to koI nukasAn nahIn hai, adhik gnAn ho to. parantu adhik honA hI chAhie, aisA nahIn hai. prayojanabhUt ho to bhI jAne.

vah to gnAnasvabhAv AtmAkA hai, gnAn ho, kisIko kShayopasham ho aur adhik jAne, shAstra chintavan kare aur adhik shAstrako jAne to usamen koI nukasAn nahIn hai. lekin honA hI chAhiye, aisA nahIn hai. ?