Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 20.

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mumukShu- ... puruShArtha ho, aisA lagatA hai.

samAdhAna- sahaj aur puruShArtha, donon hai. usakI dashA hI aisI hai. bAharamen jyAdA nahIn ruk sakatA. munidashAkI dashA aisI hai ki bAharamen jyAdA nahIn rah sakatA. aisI sahaj usakI dashA hai. parantu juD jAtA hai aur khInchatA hai, donon.

... anek prakArakI bAhya pravRutti, chakravartI hote hain unhen bAharakI anek prakArakI pravRuttimen usake vikalpa rukate hain. usamense shubhamen Aye, usamense svayam shuddhatAkI or apanI Dorako khInch letA hai. usakI dashA ho usake anurUp sahaj hai, bAkI khInch letA hai. puruShArtha karake Age baDhatA hai. Age jAte-jAte kitanA samay lage, usakA koI niyam nahIn hai. usI bhUmikAmen kitane hI sAl nikal jAte hain. phir puruShArtha baDhe to bhUmikA palaTatI hai. kitanonko jaldI palaT jAtI hai, kisIko der lagatI hai. kitane sAl tak samyagdarshanakI bhUmikAmen gRuhasthAshramamen chakravartI Adi rahate hain. bharat chakravartIne antarmuhUrtamen kevalagnAn prApta kar liyA hai. ekadam puruShArtha shurU ho gayA.

shrutagnAn bIchamen AtA hai, parantu kitanA shrutagnAn.. kitane hI munionko shrutakevalI kahanemen AtA hai. utanA shrutagnAn unhen bIchamen AtA hai. kahate hain na? shrutagnAn aur kevalagnAnamen koI antar nahIn hai. parokSha aur pratyakShakA (hI antar hai). vah samvedanakI apekShAse kahA. ye jo shrutagnAn shrutakevalIko hotA hai, use bhI aisA hI kahate hain. vah parokSha hai aur kevalagnAnIkA pratyakSha hai. parokSha-pratyakShakA antar hai. isaliye kevalagnAnI jitanA shrutakevalI jAnatA hai, aisA kahanemen AtA hai. utanA (shrutagnAn) bIchamen AtA hai. parantu kAm to mokShamArgamen darshan aur chAritra(kA mukhya hotA hai). gnAn kAm to bIchamen hotA hI hai, parantu gnAn vivek karatA hai. adhik jAnanA vah nahIn. bIchamen bhedagnAnakI dhArA (ugra hotI hai). bhedagnAn kahAn tak bhAnA? ki svarUpamen jabatak sthir nahIn ho, tabatak hotA hai. bhedagnAn atruT dhArAse bhAnA. bhedagnAn bIchamen kArya karatA hai. bhedagnAnakI ugratA, gnAn vah kArya karatA hai. bhedagnAnakI ugratA. dRuShTi dravya par hai, bhedagnAnakI ugratA aur lInatA.

mumukShu- bahut baDA siddhAnta A gayA.


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samAdhAna- .. aisI use upamA dete hain-parokSha. bAkI kevalagnAnIkA pratyakSha (hai). bAdamen kahate hain na ki merA kShayopashamagnAn kahAn aur prabhu! ApakA kShAyik kahAn aur main kahAn! aisA kahate hain. antarmuhUrtamen merA upayog jAnatA hai, Ap to ek samayamen jAn sakate ho. main kahAn, usakA koI mel nahIn hai. ApakA to ananta (gnAn) aur merA to kitanA Anshik! us apekShAse shrutagnAnako (parokSha) kahate hain. yah to kShayopasham kShaN-kShaNamen jAnane vAlA, upayog antarmuhUrta ho tab jAnanemen Aye, Ap to ek samayamen jAnate ho, us apekShAse bahut pharka hai. kevalagnAn ananta aur kShayopasham to ek antarmuhUrtamen jAnane vAlA, isaliye thoDA usakA mel nahIn baiThatA isaliye aisA kahate hain. usakI mahimAmen aisA kahe ki shrutagnAnI aur kevalagnAnI donon samAn hain, aisA kahanemen Aye. shAstramen AtA hai, shrutagnAnI aur kevalagnAn (donon samAn hain). samvedanakI apekShAse AtA hai. parantu andar donon le sakate hain.

samAdhAna- ... manuShyadeh mile, usamen panchamakAlamen gurudev mile vah mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. sabako gnAyak.. gnAyak.. gnAyakakI sabako ruchi karavAyI. sharIr bhinna, AtmA bhinna Adi gurudevane hI sikhAyA hai. mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. bhavakA abhAv karanekA prasang banA. nahIn to samAj to kahAn paDA thA. kriyA Adi, shubhabhAva. shubhAshubh bhAvase bhinna AtmA kisane batAyA? gurudevane batAyA hai. isaliye sabako itane sanskAr prApta hue hain.

jIvane kitane janma-maraN kiye hain. ek-ek AkAshake pradeshamen, ananta avasarpiNI, utsarpiNI kAlamen, ek-ek AkAsh pradeshamen janma-maraN karate-karate bAharake pudagal paramANu lokamense jitane grahaN kiye utane chhoDe hain. utane jIvane bhav dhAraN kiye. AkAshake ek-ek pradesh par janma-maraN, avasarpiNI, utsarpiNI kAlamen ananta janma-maraN dhAraN kiye, usamen aise gurudev mile, aisA mArga milA vah mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. gurudevake pratApase sabako yah mArga milA hai, mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai.

mumukShu- .. us bhAvako dRuDh karaneke liye, us bhAvamen adhik-adhik gaharAImen jA sake, aisA karaneke liye, vAnchan to barAbar hai, lekin sAth-sAthamen .. jisase ekadam dRuDh ho, svarUpamen lInatA ho, Ananda hai...

samAdhAna- main gnAyak hUn, yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai, main to gnAyak hUn. gnAyakakI ruchi jyAdA laganI chAhiye. bAharakI ruchi kam ho, antarakI jignAsA, laganI, bhAvanA andar baDhAye. main to gnAyak hI hUn, yah sharIr main nahIn hUn, ye shubhAshubh vikalpa bhI merA svabhAv nahIn hai, main usase bhinna hUn. isaprakAr bArambAr prayAs karatA rahe. vAnchan, vichAr to kare, lekin usake sAth bArambAr bhinna karanekA prayAs kare ki main to bhinna hI hUn. usakA svabhAv pahachAnakar ki yah jAnane vAlA hai vahI main hUn. isake sivA


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dUsarA hai vah main nahIn hUn. jo jAnane vAlA hai vah main hUn. aur jAnane vAlemen-svarUpamen lIn ho to usamen AnandAdi anant guN bhare hain. parantu usakI anubhUti usamen lIn ho to hotA hai. parantu pahale use barAbar pahachAnakar bhedagnAnakA prayAs kare to hotA hai. bArambAr bhedagnAnakA prayAs karanA paDe. kShaN-kShaNamen, jAgate-sote, svapnamen bhedagnAnakA abhyAs bArambAr tIvratAse kare to hotA hai.

yah chaitanyadravya hai vah main hUn, isake sivA dUsarA main nahIn hUn. usakI mahimA Aye, use barAbar pahachAne, usakI pratIti dRuDh ho. pratIt dRuDh ho to usamen lInatA hotI hai. bAhar jA rahe upayogako savarUpakI or moDe, usamen lIn kare to hotA hai. bArambAr usake liye prayAs karanA paDe. jo chaitanya hai so main hUn, usamen ananta guN hain aur usakI paryAyen, apane dravya-guN-paryAyako pahachAne aur dUsare pudagalake dravya-guN-paryAyako pahachAne, phir use bhinna kare ki yah chaitanya hai vahI main hUn.

anAdiananta shAshvar hUn, ye paryAy pratikShaN pariNamati hai. us paryAy jitanA bhI main nahIn hUn, main to shAshvat AtmA hUn. paryAy pariName, svayam pariNamit ho parantu main to shAshvat hUn. isaprakAr usakI dRuShTi bArambAr dravya par jAye to svarUpakI prApti ho. pahale usakA abhyAs bArambAr karanA. jabatak vah nahIn ho tabatak bAharamen vAnchan, vichAr, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Adi shubhabhAvamen (jAye), parantu main to un sabase bhinna shuddhAtmA hUn, aisA dhyey honA chAhiye. bArambAr usakA prayAs honA chAhiye. bArambAr karate rahanA. vah aisA hai ki hotA hai, apanA svabhAv hai. isaliye svayam karIb aur samIp hI hai, dUr nahIn hai, parantu anAdikA abhyAs vibhAvakI or ho gayA hai, isaliye dUr ho gayA hai. abhyAs bAharakA hai, antarakA abhyAs bArambAr usakA prayAs nahIn kiyA hai, isaliye durlabh ho gayA hai. ho sakatA hai, ananta jIvonne yah prayAs karake bhedagnAn karake svAnubhUti karake kevalagnAn pragaT karake mokShamen gaye hain. ho sakatA hai. bArambAr usakA prayAs karatA rahe. nahIn ho to chhoDanA nahIn, parantu bArambAr prayAs karate rahanA.

(gnAyakake) dvAr par bArambAr Tahel lagAte rahe to usake dvAr khul jAye. jaise bhagavAnake dvAr par Tahel lagAye to bhagavAnake dvAr khul jAte hain. vaise chaitanyake dvAr par, gnAyakake dvAr par bArambAr usakA abhyAs karanekI Tahel lagAye to usake dvAr khul jAye. usamen thakanA nahIn, bArambAr abhyAs karate rahanA.

mumukShu- ruchikA viShay to itanA hai ki main gnAyak paripUrNa AtmA hUn aur bAkI sab mujhase bhinna hai. ...

samAdhAna- sachchI pratIt ho to apanI shraddhA dRuDh ho gayI, ruchikA viShay utanA ho gayA. parantu jise abhI andarase sachchA pragaT nahIn huA hai, bhAvanA bhAtA hai, usakI


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ruchi kabhI manda paDatI hai, kabhI tIvra hotI hai, kabhI manda-tIvra huA karatI hai. isaliye ruchikI ugratA karanI.

mumukShu- merA sabakuchh mujhamen hai, usamen kamI honese aisA hotA hai? merA sabakuchh mujhamen hai athavA merA sukh aur merA gnAn sab mujhamen hai.

samAdhAna- mujhamen hai, usakI ruchi, usakI mahimA. bAharamen ekatva hokar bAharakI ruchi baDh jAye, bAharamen santuShTa ho jAye, aisA ho jAye to ruchikI mandatA ho jAye. bAharamen use kahIn tRupti nahIn ho, bAharamen kahIn bhI use santuShTapanA nahIn ho aur antaramen mujhe prApta ho to hI mujhe santoSh aur tRupti ho. andaramen aisI ruchi aur aisA huA kare. ruchikI ugratA hotI rahe. bAharamen santuShTa nahIn ho. ruchikI mandatA-tIvratA ...

jise yathArtha bhedagnAn hokar gnAyakakI pratIt dRuDh ho gayI use to ekarUp ho gayA, parantu jo abhI jignAsAmen hai, bAharamen santuShTa ho jAtA hai, bAharamen tRupta ho jAye, bAharamen thoDA kare to tRupti ho jAye aur antaramen kuchh mandatA ho jAye to ruchiko tIvra kare. is arthamen hai.

mumukShu- samajh ho ki shraddhAn ho ki main akhaNDa svarUpase dhruv tattva rUp hUn, parantu jabatak use pUrNarUpase nahIn prApta kare, pUrNa AnandakI anubhUti nahIn ho, us orakI ruchi baDhAnI. shraddhAn ho usakA pahalA bhAv ki yah main. use kaise prApta karanA? mujhe mere guNonkA, guNadhamAkA sAhajik rUpase kaise anubhav ho, yahI samajhanA, usIkA prayAs, usakI hI ruchi.

samAdhAna- usakA hI bArambAr abhyAs, usakA hI prayAs karanA ki main yah gnAyak hUn. usakA yathArtha gnAnasvabhAv pahachAnakar, gnAnamAtra nahIn parantu pUrNa gnAyakadravya hUn, use pahachAnakar pratIt kare. bArambAr, yahI main hUn, aisI bArambAr dRuDhatA karake, yahI main hUn, dUsarA nahIn, aise bArambAr (abhyAs kare). sharIrake sAth, vikalpake sAth ekatvabuddhi ho jAye, parantu main yah nahIn hUn, main gnAyak hI hUn. svayamko bhUl jAye aur dUsaremen ekatva ho jAye (to) bArambAr, main yah gnAyak hI hUn, isaprakAr bArambAr dRuDhatA kare. ye jo ananta guNonse bharapUr hai vah mujhe kaise prApta ho? isaprakAr bArambAr usakI ruchi baDhAtA jAye. usakI shraddhA dRuDh karatA jAye. shraddhA ho use aisA lage ki shraddhA dRuDh hai. bAharamen santuShTa ho jAye to usakI ruchikI mandatA ho jAye.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! use ruchikI mandatA kahanA yA ruchikA abhAv kahanA?

samAdhAna- abhAv nahIn, parantu use andar thoDI to khaTak hotI hai. vah svayam hI apanA jAn sake ki bAharamen kitanA santuShTa hotA hai aur kitanA andar (prayAs karatA hai)? svayam apanA jAn sakatA hai. utanA samay ho gayA, kuchh hotA nahIn, aisA


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samajhakar pramAd ho jAye, ruchikI mandatA ho jAye, vah sab svayam hI jAn sakatA hai. ruchikI mandatA, prayatnakI mandatA, vah sab sAthamen hai.

meremen guNonkA bhed lakShaNabhedase hai, vastubhed nahIn hai. usake ananta guN hain, parantu vastu to ek hI hai. ananta guNase bharA main chaitanya hUn. aisA akhaNDa dravya hai. us par dRuShTi kare, yah main hUn aur yah main nahIn hUn. isaprakAr bArambAr dRuDhatA karatA rahe. bArambAr dRuDhatA kare. main yah hUn aur yah nahIn hUn, ek-do bAr yAd kiyA, phir bhUl jAye, phir jaisA thA vaisA ho jAye. ruchi to amuk .... karatA hai, lekin ruchikI ugratA ho, laganI ugra ho to vah Age baDh sakatA hai. mujhe AtmAke binA kahIn chain nahIn hai, aisI ugratA andar honI chAhiye.

mumukShu- aisI ugratA..

samAdhAna- usaprakArakI ugratA honI chAhiye.

mumukShu- usakA nAm ruchiko baDhAte jAnA.

samAdhAna- hAn, ruchiko baDhAte jAnA, yahI usakA artha huA. amuk prakArakI ruchi to hotI hai. amuk nakkI kiyA ho ki yah karane jaisA hai, us prakArakI jignAsA to use hotI hai. prayatna us or nahIn jAtA hai, isaliye thoDI ruchikI mandatA hotI hai. jise gnAyakakI dashA pragaT huyI, use to ekarUp pratIti rahatI hai. phir use AcharaNamen AcharaN visheSh nahIn hotA hai, isaliye vah bAhar khaDA hai.

mumukShu- usake pahale ruchimen kam-jyAdA, manda-tIvra hotA rahatA hai.

samAdhAna- yathArtha pragaT nahIn huA hai isaliye.

mumukShu- pUrNa svarUpakI samajh nahIn huI hai aur us or ruchi jyAdAse jyAdA ho, abhI bhI apUrNa hUn, isaliye thoDe manda kaShAy hain, pUrNarUpase prApta nahIn huA hai, isaliye ye thoDe-bahut bAkI hai aur vah to nAsh honeke liye hai, aisI samajh honI chAhiye na? jitanA bhI manda kaShAy hai vah to nAsh honeke liye hai. samajh huyI to usakI ugratA baDhane par...

samAdhAna- pUrNa paryAy pragaT ho, pUrNa paryAy pragaT ho to vah chhUT jAnevAlA hai. parantu andar apUrNatA (hai). dravya vastu svabhAvase pUrNa hai, vastumen pUrNatA hai, lekin usakI paryAyamen apUrNatA hai. vastu shaktimen jo hai, shakti svarUp AtmAmen bAharake vibhAvane andar pravesh nahIn kiyA hai. jaise sphaTik svabhAvase nirmal hai, lekin use bAharake phUl lAl-pIle ho to usake kAraN usamen malinatA dikhatI hai. malinatArUp usakA amuk prakArakA pariNaman hotA hai, koI karavAtA nahIn. sphaTik vartamAn lAl-pIle svarUp pariNamatA hai. parantu mUlamen jo sphaTikakI nirmalatA hai, vah nAsh nahIn huyI hai.


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vaise chaitanya svabhAvase sphaTik jaisA nirmal hai. isaliye usamen kisI bhI prakArakA antaramen mUl tattvamen kisI bhI malinatAne pravesh nahIn kiyA hai. isaliye apUrNa use paryAy apekShAse kahate hain. shakti apekShAse usamen kevalagnAnakI shakti bharI hai. sphaTik jaise svabhAvase nirmal hai, usakI nirmalatAkA koI bhI prakAr shaktimen nAsh nahIn huA hai. sphaTikamen kisI bhI prakArakI apUrNatA usakI shaktimen nahIn hai.

vaise gnAyakamen kisI bhI prakArakI apUrNatA usakI shaktimen nahIn hai, parantu pragaT vedanamen nahIn hai. jaise sphaTikamen pragaTamen lAl dikhAI detA hai, vaise AtmA shaktimen paripUrNa hai, usakA koI ansh malin nahIn huA hai, lekin pragaTamen usake vedanamen apUrNatA hai. use svAnubhUtikI lInatAkA ansh (hotA hai). samyagdarshan hotA hai to Anshik svAnubhUti hotI hai. vikalpase chhUTakar kShaNabhar svayam svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. jise samyagdarshan hotA hai use svAnubhUti nirvikalpa dashAmen AnandakI anubhUti hotI hai. lekin use thoDI der rahatI hai aur phirase bAhar AtA hai.

aise bhedagnAn karate-karate, gnAyakakI ugratA karate-karate usakI sAdhanA baDhatI jAye aur paryAyamen nirmalatA baDhatI jAye, tab use paryAyamen kevalagnAnakI prApti pUrNa hotI hai. sphaTikakI lAlI nikal jAnepar sphiTak pragaT nirmal hotA hai. vaise shakti nirmal hai sphaTik jaisA, parantu pragaTamen use nirmalatAkA vedan nahIn hai. isaprakAr bArambAr svayam gnAyakako pahachAnakar usamen lInatA karatA rahe to pahale svAnubhUti AnshikarUpase hotI hai. abhI kevalagnAn lokAlokako jAne vaisA kevalagnAn nahIn ho jAtA. lokAlokakA kevalagnAn vItarAgadashA ekadam ho jAye, phir rAgakA ansh bhI utpanna nahIn ho, rAgakA ansh kahAn chalA gayA, thA ki nahIn aisA ho jAye, tab vah svayamko pUrNa prakAshit kare aur anyako prakAshit kare aisA gnAn hotA hai. svAnubhUtimen vah nahIn hotA. svabhAv pUrNa hai, abhI sAdhanA hai. isaliye nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai us vakta svAnubhUti, AnandakI anubhUti hotI hai. lekin vah thoDI der rahakar phirase AtA hai. to bhI main gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn, aisI dhArA use chalatI hai.

isaprakAr bArambAr anubhUti hote-hote use chAritradashA hotI hai. antaramen lInatA baDhatI jAtI hai, munidashA hotI hai aur bAdamen use pUrNatA hotI hai. phir kShaN-kShaNamen svarUpamen aisA lIn hotA hai ki usamen aisA lIn ho jAye ki phir bAhar hI nahIn Aye. aisI lInatA ho tab use kevalagnAn hotA hai. tab ananta guNase sab pragaT pUrNa ho jAtA hai. tab pUrNatA hotI hai.

pahale pUrNakI shraddhA hotI hai. aur svAnubhUti, pahale nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai, usamen svAnubhUti-AnandakI anubhUtI hotI hai. lekin phirase bAhar A jAtA hai. phir bhedagnAn


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chAlU rahatA hai. lekin vah sab samajhatA hai ki ye sab rAgakI dashA hai, usase bhinna hI bhinna rahatA hai. use alpa-alpa (rAg) hotA hai, parantu vah chhUTaneke liye hai. svayam puruShArtha karake lInatA baDhAtA jAye to chhUT jAtA hai. lekin pUrNa to jab kevalagnAn hotA hai, munidashA ho, antaramen munidashA kaisI? bAharase le le aise nahIn, antaramen svAnubhUti baDh jAye. aisI baDh jAye ki bAhar rah nahIn sake. antarmuhUrta men Aye, kShaN-kShaNamen bAr-bAr andar jAtA hai, phirase andar jAtA hai. aisI svAnubhUti AnandakI lInatA hotI hai tab use kevalagnAn hotA hai. use pUrNa dashA kahate hain. tab tak use pUrNa hai, lekin vah shaktimen pUrNa hai. shaktimen hai to pragaT hotA hai. pAnI svabhAvase nirmal hai. lekin vah vartamAn kIchaDase malin huA, lekin nirmal auShadhise nirmal hotA hai. svabhAvase-shaktise AtmA pUrNa hai. parantu use vedan nahIn hai, pragaTatA nahIn hai, vedan nahIn hai, pUrNatAkA.

... shraddhA, bhAvanA, prayAsase abhI ansh pragaT hotA hai aur vah gRuhasthAshramamen hotA hai. lekin usamen bahut Age baDh jAye tab use ekadam aisI svAnubhUti antarmuhUrta- antarmuhUrtamen AnandakI anubhUti hotI hai, kShaN-kShaNamen hotI hai. phir vah gRuhasthAshramamen rah nahIn sakatA. phir munidashA A jAtI hai aur phir koI us bhavamen, koI dUsare bhavamen aisI AnandakI anubhUti baDh jAtI hai, phir pUrNa kevalagnAn hotA hai. phir bAhar hI nahIn AtA, andar gayA so gayA, svarUpamen samAye to samA gaye, phir bAhar hI nahIn Ate. phir aisI vItarAgadashA huI, rAgakA ansh utpanna hI nahIn hotA.

main gnAyak hUn, main svabhAvase pUrNa hUn, parantu abhI pragaT nahIn hai. rAgakA vedan hai. main bhinna gnAyak hUn, isaprakAr rAgase bhinna hote-hote, bhedagnAn karate-karate use svAnubhUtikI dashA ho, tab use muktikA mArga pragaT hotA hai. .. pahale hotA hai, pUrNatA bAdamen hotI hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!
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