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samAdhAna- ... yahAn bahut rahate the. karane jaisA yah ek hI hai. (pratikUl) sanyogamen shAnti rakhanI.

... gnAyak kaise pahachAnamen Aye? bAhar shubhabhAvamen dev, guru aur shAstra usake hRudayamen hone chAhiye aur andaramen shuddhAtmA sarvase bhinna hai use pahachAne to yah karane jaisA hai. gurudevake pratApase, pIchhese koI rog Aye to shAnti (rakhe).

bArambAr-bArambAr andaramen gaharAImen aisA ho ki AtmA hI grahaN karanA hai, AtmAke sivA aur kuchh nahIn chAhiye. aisI antarakI bhAvanA ho aur bArambAr main gnAyak hUn, aisI bhAvanA rahe. abhI yathArtha grahaN nahIn huA hai, parantu bArambAr usakA vichAr, usIke bArambAr vichAr karatA rahe, usakA manthan karatA rahe, laganI lagAye. aisA kare to andar sanskAr paDate hain. andarase gaharAIse ho to. Upar-Uparase ho to nahIn paDate. andar gaharAIse (honA chAhiye).

mumukShu- svayamko mAlUm paDatA hai?

samAdhAna- svayamko mAlUm paDe yA nahIn paDe. gaharAIse ho to svayamko mAlUm paDe bhI aur nahIn bhI paDe. mAlUm paDe hI aisA kuchh nahIn hai.

mumukShu- svayamko ek hI lagan ho to hI paDe?

samAdhAna- to hI paDe. laganI andarakI gaharAIse honI chAhiye. dUsarA kuchh bhI ruche nahIn, ek AtmA hI ruche. aise andarakI gaharAIse sanskAr ho to paDe, gaharI ruchi ho to paDate hain. andarase use ruchi jAgRut ho jAtI hai. aise koI prasang bane to use aisA lagatA hai ki, mujhe yah nahIn chAhiye, mujhe kuchh aur chAhiye. mujhe AtmA chAhiye. aisI antarase use sphuraNA hotI hai. antarake gahare sanskAr ho to. aise koI prasang dekhe, dev-guru-shAstrakA sAnnidhya prApta ho, use andarase sphuraNA ho ki mujhe yah chAhiye. andarase ruchi jAgRut ho jAye. puruShArtha kare to hotA hai, lekin ruchi jAgRut ho jAye.

AtA hai na? "krodhAdi taramyatA sarpAdikanI mAnhi, pUrva janma sanskAr...' pUrvake sanskAr ho vah amuk bhavamen sphurit ho jAte hain. amuk prakArakI jo svayamkI lAyakAt

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ho, vah svayam hI antarase sphurit hotI hai. aise shubhabhAv ho, aisA puNya bandhe ki dev-guru-shAstrake sAnnidhyamen (jAye). andarase svayamkI ruchi jAgRut ho jAye ki mujhe to yahI chAhiye, mujhe aur kuchh nahIn chAhiye.

mumukShu- aisA sab honekA kAraN pUrvake sanskAr?

samAdhAna- pUrvake sanskAr (kAraN) hai. use dravyadRuShTise nahIn kahanemen AtA, lekin aise ek jAtake sanskAr paDate hain. amuk jAtake jo vibhAvake sanskAr chale A rahe hain, pUrvamen jo hote hain, phirase jo bhav dhAraN kare usamen us jAtake sanskAr, us jAtake shubhabhAv, kaShAy Adi sab hote hain, aisA dikhanamen AtA hai. isaprakAr antaramen jo svayamkI ruchi ho, vah ruchi use jAgRut honekA kAraN hotI hai. phir use baDhAneke liye svayamkA vartamAn puruShArtha kAm karatA hai. jyAdA kArya karaneke liye.

mumukShu- vartamAnamen jise sukh hI nahIn hai, use..

samAdhAna- kisIko pUrvake sanskAr ho to .. kisIko nahIn bhI ho. vartamAn jIvakI aisI koI yogyatAke kAraN baiTh jAye. vaisI usakI yogyatA, koI prakArakI komalatA lekar AyA ho use baiTh jAtA hai. bAkI kisIko sanskAr hotA hai aur kisIko nahIn bhI ho. sabhIko sanskAr hI ho, aisA nahIn hotA. to-to jIvako pahalI bAr ho to use pahaleke sanskAr.. nigodamense nikalakar pahalI bAr hotA hai. sanskAr hI ho, aisA nahIn hotA. lekin kisIko sanskAr hote hain, kisIko sanskAr nahIn hote.

svayam vartamAnamen taiyArI kare ki mujhe AtmA hI chAhiye. bArambAr usakA raTan, laganI, jignAsA, vichAr, usIke vichAr, vAnchan AtmAke liye karatA ho. dhyey ek AtmAkA, AtmAkA prayojan hotA hai, dUsarA koI prayojan nahIn hotA. bAharakA kisI bhI prakArakA prayojan nahIn hai. sabakuchh AtmArthake liye hai. antarase aisA ho to use sanskAr (paDate hain). usake AtmAko vahI ruche, vahI posAy, dUsarA kuchh antarase nahIn ruche, dUsarA kuchh posAtA nahIn, aisA AtmAkA jIvan ho jAye ki dUsarA kuchh posAy nahIn. ek satakI ruchi, ek sat AtmA kaise prApta ho? aisA use posAtA ho to use dUsare bhavamen bhI vah sanskAr sphurit hue binA nahIn rahate. aisA honA chAhiye. use vahI posAy, dUsarA kuchh nahIn, dUsarA kuchh antaramen ruche nahIn. antaramen us jAtakI ruchi aur laganI ho to vah sanskAr use rahate hain aur sphurAyamAn bhI hote hain.

mumukShu- vah sanskAr sphure binA nahIn rahe.

samAdhAna- sphure binA nahIn rahate. sphure yAnI use aisA lage, kahIn bhI ras nahIn Aye. AtmAkI bAtamen hI ras Aye. aisA antaramense us jAtakA ho jAtA hai. sahaj hI svayam aisA raTan vah lekar AyA hai, ghUTan karake AyA hai.

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mumukShu- ... nahIn ho to sanskAr paDe to bhI use..

samAdhAna- to bhI achchhA hai. samyagdarshan jitanA puruShArtha ho jAye to uttam hai, lekin nahIn ho to usakI bArambAr laganI lagAtA ho, usIkA raTan karatA ho, sanskAr paDe to bhI achchhA hai. "tatprati prItichitten yen vArtApi hi shrutA.' vArtA bhI antarakI prItise sunI hai to bhAvi nirvAN bhAjanan. usamen usakI antarakI prIti, andarakI ruchi aur prIti hI kAm karatI hai. bhaviShyamen vah use sphure binA nahIn rahatI. pariNati pragaT hue binA nahIn rahatI. antarakI prItise bAt sunI hai aur apUrvatA lagI hai to antarase lagI apUrvatA phir jAtI nahIn. Aye binA nahIn rahatI.

deshanAlabdhi hotI hai, vah use kahAn.. hotA nahIn. bhagavAnakI vANI yA gurudevakI vANI sunakar antaramense koI apUrvatA lagI aur antaramense AtmA kuchh alag hai aur ye kuchh alag hI kahate hain, aisI deshanA antaramen grahaN ho gayI to vah deshanA bhI kAm karatI hai, svayamko kuchh mAlUm nahIn hotA. vah sab sanskAr hI kAm karate hain. dravyadRuShTise use nahIn kahanemen AtA, phir bhI nishchay-vyavahArakI sandhi hai. vaise vah sanskAr bhI hai. deshanAlabdhi antaramen hotI hai, vah bhI pragaT hotI hai. us vakta use mAlUm nahIn hotA, apragaTarUpase apUrvatA lagatI hai. antaramen jo pariNati muDI hai vah apragaT hai. ye kuchh alag apUrva hai. apUrvatAkA poShaN andarase ho gayA, vah use Aye binA nahIn rahatA.

mumukShu- sanskArase mithyAtva galatA hogA?

samAdhAna- mithyAtvakA ras, darshanamohanIy manda paDatA hai. darshanamohanIy to manda hai. lekin darshanamohanIy chalA nahIn jAtA. vah to darshanamohanIyakI mandatA hai. mithyAtvakA ras manda paDatA hai. apanI orakI apUrvatA lagatI hai to. sachche dev-guru-shAstrako grahaN karatA hai to bhI darshanamohanIy manda hai. parantu andar AtmAkI apUrvatA lage, us pUrvak jo darshanamohanIy manda paDatA hai, vah alag rItase paDatA hai. jo jUThe dev-guru-shAstrako grahaN kare, usase to jo sachche dev-guru-shAstrako grahaN karatA hai, usakA darshanamohanIy manda hai. parantu andarase apUrvatA lagakar grahaN ho, vah darshanamohanIy alag prakArase (manda) paDatA hai. ab AtmAkI or hI muDegA.

mumukShu- andarakI bhakti Adi ... karate hue, AtmAkI orake muDe jo sanskAr hain, usamen mithyAtvakA jyAdA galanA hotA hai?

samAdhAna- vah alag prakArase (hotA hai). dev-guru-shAstrakI shraddhA bhI aisI ho, apUrva rItase ho to usamen bhI darshanamohanIy alag rItase manda paDatA hai. dev-guru- shAstrakI shraddhA bhI use apUrva prakArase (hotI hai). ye guru kuchh alag kahate hain, dev

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kuchh (alag hai), shAstramen kuchh alag AtA hai, isaprakAr alag rItase grahaN huA to vah alag rItase hI hai. lekin rUDhigatarUpase grahaN huA ho vah alag hai. andar apUrva rItase dev-guru-shAstrakI shraddhA grahaN ho, apUrva rItase, to usamen darshanamohanIy manda paDatA hai. ab, apanI or hI usakI pariNati AyegI, us prakArase manda paDatA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti aur AtmAkI or vRutti, usakA mel hai?

samAdhAna- hAn, mel hai. AtmAkI bhakti, gnAyakakI bhakti use shubhabhAvamen dev- guru-shAstrakI bhakti bhI sAthamen hI hotI hai. dononkA mel hai. gnAyakakI bhakti ho to dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti nahIn hotI, aisA nahIn hotA. jise gnAyakakI bhakti ho use dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti, shubhabhAv hotA hai. ashubhabhAv chhUTakar, ashubhabhAvase shubhabhAvamen AtA hai. ashubhabhAvakA nAsh nahIn hotA. lekin vah shubhabhAvamen khaDA rahatA hai. sAthamen bhakti Aye binA nahIn rahatI.

gnAyakakI ruchi huyI. gnAyakakI yathArtha shraddhA hotI hai use bhI dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti (hotI hai). samyagdarshan ho, bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT ho, svAnubhUti ho to bhI use bAhar Aye tab dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti hotI hai. to ruchi vAleko to hogI hI. muni hote hain, chhaThThe-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate hain, aise munirAj, jo bArambAr svarUpamen lIn hote hain, svAnubhUtimen, ve bhI bAhar Aye to unhen bhI dev-guru-shAstrakI unakI bhUmikA anusAr bhakti hotI hai, unhen shubhabhAv hote hain. unhen pUjA Adi kArya nahIn hote. paranta unhen shAstrakA vAnchan, shAstra likhe, bhaktike stotra rache, aisI sab bhakti hotI hai. padmanandi AchAryane bhaktike stotra rache hain.

mumukShu- sukhake liye mithyA prayatna karate hain, phir bhI sukhI nahIn hote, usakA kyA upAy hai?

samAdhAna- sukhake liye mithyA prayatna karatA hai. sukh antaramen hai, bAhar nahIn hai. bAhar DhUnDhatA rahe, bAharase sukh nahIn AtA. sukh to antaramen hai. gurudevane mArga batAyA ki jo tattva ho us tattvake andar sukh (hotA hai). sukh AtmAkA svabhAv hai, bAharase nahIn milatA. sukhase bharA AtmA jAnane vAlA, sukhase bharA, Anandase bharA AtmA hai. AtmAko pahachAne to sukh prApta hotA hai. aur pahachAnaneke liye usake vichAr, vAnchan Adi kare. andar laganI lagAye, jignAsA kare to AtmA pahachAnamen AtA hai. AtmA kaise pahachAnamen Aye, usakI antarase laganI lagAnI chAhiye ki sukh kaise mile?

bAharase to ananta kAlase sukhake liye bahut vyartha prayatna kiyA, sukh milatA nahIn. sukh jahAn hai, vahAn milatA hai. mRug vanamen ghUmatA hai. usakI kastUrIse van sugandhit

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ho jAtA hai, lekin kastUrI to usake pAs hI hai. andar hai. aise AnandaguN svayamkA hai aur svayam bAhar DhUnDhatA hai. svayammen Ananda bharA hai. antar dRuShTi kare to mile aisA hai. bhedagnAn kare ki yah sharIr bhinna hai aur Atmatattva bhinna hai. AtmAke dravya-guN- paryAy bhinna hai, sharIrake bhinna hain. andar vibhAv hotA hai vah sab AkUlatA hai, apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. apanA svabhAv ek jAnane vAlA AtmA hai. us jAnane vAlekA svabhAv pahachAnakar andarase pahachAnanA chAhiye. usakA bhedagnAn karanA chAhiye. bhedagnAn karaneke liye antarakI laganI lagAye, jignAsA lagAye, vichAr, vAnchan (kare). jab tak nahIn hotA tab tak vichAr, vAnchan, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA shubhabhAvamen hotI hai. antaramen shuddhAtmAko pahachAnanekI laganI lagAye to vah pahachAnA jAye aisA hai. bAkI ananta kAlase janma-maraN kiye, bhavakA abhAv honekA yah ek hI upAy hai. AtmAko pahachAnanA, bhedagnAn karanA, andar laganI lagAnI, jignAsA lagAnI. usake liye vichAr, vAnchan Adi karanA.

mumukShu- ..lekin andaramen jaisA honA chAhiye, chAhe kuchh bhI kare andaramen ..

samAdhAna- vidhi to yahI hai, svayamko pahachAnanA, bhedagnAn karanA, vahI rIt hai. mArga to ek hI hai. parantu puruShArtha svayamko karanA hai. puruShArtha kare nahIn to hotA nahIn. kAraN de nahIn to kArya kahAn-se Aye? kAraN svayamko denA hai, puruShArthakI mandatA hai, Age jA nahIn sakatA. andarakI gaharAIse ruchi lagAnI chAhiye, puruShArtha andarase tIvra karanA chAhiye, to hotA hai. puruShArthakI mandatA hai, bAhar dauDatA rahatA hai aur antar dRuShTi karatA nahIn, to kahAn-se ho? use din-rAt laganI laganI chAhiye. kahIn chain nahIn paDe. ek AtmA.. AtmAke sivA kuchh ruche nahIn. aisI andarase laganI lage to svayamkI or puruShArtha kare to hotA hai.