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samAdhAna- .. bhale vachanonse, parantu puruShArtha to svayamko karanA paDatA hai. gurudevane jo batAyA ki terA astitva aisA hai. us astitvako grahaN karaneke liye puruShArtha svayamko karanA paDatA hai. vah kShaNik astitva jo hai, utanA kShaNik astitva nahIn hai. merA trikAl astitva hai. use grahaN to svayam karatA hai. jAnatA hai bhale gnAniyonke vachanase jAnatA hai, usakI mahimA use AtI hai ki merA astitva bhinna hI hai, mere chaitanyakI adabhutatA koI alag hai, merI anupamatA kuchh alag hai. vah sab gnAniyonke vachanase jAnatA hai, usakA nirNay karatA hai, parantu phir grahaN karanemen svayam puruShArtha karatA hai. apane puruShArthase hotA hai.

anubhav kar sakatA hai, vah svayam jo gnAyakatAko grahaN karake antaramen jAtA hai, vah paryAy grahaN karatI hai. aur usamen svayam lInatA kare isaliye usakI anubhUti hotI hai. use grahaN kare aur usamen lInatA kare to anubhUti hotI hai. grahaN karatA hai. grahaN karake usamen lInatA kare. usamen lInatA, aisI dRuDh lInatA kare aur usakI ugratA kare to use svAnubhUti hotI hai.

bhale gnAnIke vachan hon, usamen nimitta hote hain gnAnIke vachana. anAdi kAlase svayamne jAnA nahIn hai. gnAnIke vachan to usamen nimitta hote hain. anAdi kAlase svayamne jAnA nahIn hai, usamen pahale to use dev yA guruke vachan sunane mile to svayamkI antaramen taiyArI hotI hai. chaitanyake koI apUrva sanskAr, aisI deshanA labdi pragaT hotI hai. lekin gnAniyonke vachan bhale hI hain, lekin antarase taiyArI svayamko karanI paDatI hai. puruShArtha svayamko karanA hai. gnAniyon jo kahate hain, use svayam nakkI karatA hai. gurudev jo kahate hain, yah vastukA svarUp koI apUrva mArga hai. chaitanya koI apUrva hai, adbhut hai. ve jo kahate hain usakA svayam andarase vishvAs karatA hai. svayam antarase nakkI karatA hai ki yah barAbar hai. ye jo mArga gurudev kahate hain, vaisA hI mArga hotA hai aur aisA hI hotA hai. is prakAr svayam apane gnAnase pahale nakkI karatA hai. vah svayam nishchay karake antaramen jAtA hai.

mumukShu- nakkI karatA hai arthAt pratIti A jAtI hai yA nirNay karanA paDatA

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hai.

samAdhAna- aisI pratIti, vah svayam nirNay karatA hai, apane puruShArthase nirNay karatA hai. pahale aisA nirNay hotA hai, bAdamen antaramen jAtA hai. pahale nirNay kare ki yah aise hI hai. shAstramen bhI aisA AtA hai, svayam apaneAp nakkI karatA hai ki vastu aise hI hai. aise nirNay karake phir matignAn, shrutagnAn Adi sab chaitanyakI or muDatA hai. phir usake vikalpa TUTate hain. gnAnIpuruShake vachanase svayam nakkI karatA hai. vishvAs svayamko karanA hai. vachan gnAniyonke, lekin vishvAs kaun karatA hai? vishvAs to svayam karatA hai. vishvAs svayamko karanA hai. apane buddhibalase svayam nakkI karatA hai. us prakArakI svayam ruchi karatA hai, vishvAs svayam karatA hai, nakkI karatA hai. pahale buddhise aise nakkI karatA hai.

shAstramen AtA hai na? vah vastra oDhakar so gayA. use kahate hain, ye terA vastra nahIn hai. lekin vah svayam lakShaNase nakkI karatA hai ki vAstavamen yah (merA) nahIn hai. isaliye chhoD detA hai. guru to bArambAr kahe ki yah terA nahIn hai, ye tU nahIn hai. tU bhinna hai. ye vikalpa tU nahIn hai, sharIr tU nahIn hai, kShaNik paryAyamAtra tU nahIn hai. aisA bArambAr kahe. lekin nakkI svayam karatA hai. vAstavamen guru jo yah kahate hain vah barAbar hai. guruke vachan to bIchamen hote hI hain, parantu taiyArI svayamko karanI paDatI hai.

mumukShu- gnAyak kahane par ananta guN to A gaye.

samAdhAna- ananta guN usamen sAthamen A jAte hain. gnAyak koI aisI gnAyakatA hai ki ananta guNonse bharI gnAyakatA hai. apanA astitva ananta guNonse bharI gnAyakatA hai. gnAyakatAmen astitva, vastutva Adi sab ananta-ananta shaktiyAn usamen A jAtI hai. gnAyakatA Anandase bharI hai. gnAyakatA shAntise (bharI hai). kitane hI guN vachanamen nahIn Ate, aisI ananta shaktiyonse bharI gnAyakatA hai.

... lakShyamen bhale na Ave, lekin usakI mahimA Ave. vichArase nakkI kar sakatA hai. gnAnI par vishvAs rakhanA barAbar hai, gnAnIne hI sab kar diyA. bhale svayam kahe ki prabhu! Apane kiyA aur ApakA upakAr hai. Apane hI sab kiyA, ham kuchh nahIn jAnate the. Apane hI mArga darshAyA. lekin aisA kahakar ve kar dete hain, aisA nahIn, karanA svayamko paDatA hai.

ananta shaktiyAn bhale gurudev batAve ki terA AtmA koI agAdh mahimAse bharA hai. lekin usakI pratIt svayamko karanI paDatI hai. svayam pratIt karatA hai ki barAbar hai. ananta guN kahIn dikhAI nahIn dete, parantu vah svayam nakkI karatA hai, vishvAs karatA hai.

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mumukShu- kArya ubhayase huA aisA kahanemen Aye. gnAnIpuruShake vachanase aur jIvake puruShArthase.

mumukShu- kArya to svayamne hI kiyA na. gnAnIne thoDe hI kiyA hai. upAdAna- nimitta kahanemen Aye. gurudevane kar diyA aisA kahanemen Aye. karanA paDatA hai svayamko. ananta kAlamen svayam rakhaDA hai. guruko pahichAnA nahIn hai, bhagavAnako pahichAnA nahIn hai, svayam rakhaDA hai. mile to bhI pahichAnA nahIn hai, apane doShake kAraNa. is panchamakAlamen guru mile aur vANI svayam grahaN kare, apUrvatA lage to apUrvatA jAgRut hotI hai. unakI vANImen to prabal nimitta (thA), unakI vANIkA nimitta to prabal hI hai, sabake liye prabal hai. lekin taiyArI svayamko karanI paDatI hai.

unakA upakAr amAp hai, lekin puruShArtha svayamko karanA paDatA hai. gurudev hI aisA kahate the ki tU kar to hogA.

mumukShu- shashIbhAIne bahut achchhI..

samAdhAna- svAdhInatAse hotA hai.

mumukShu- sabako gurudevane..

samAdhAna- sabako gurudevane dRuShTi dI. terA dravya svatantra hai, pratyek dravya svatantra hai. tU terA puruShArtha kara. lekin karanevAlA gurukA upakAr mAne binA rahe nahIn. karanevAleko upakArabuddhi Aye binA rahe nahIn.

mumukShu- kare svayam, phir bhI.

samAdhAna- phir bhI kahe, gurudev! Apane kiyA. AchAyA bhI aisA kahen. AchAyA bhI shAstrommen aisA hI kahate hain.

mumukShu- paramaguruke anugrahase.

samAdhAna- hAn, hamAre guruke anugrahase vaibhav pragaT huA. kundakundAdi AchArya na hue hote to ham jaise pAmarakA kyA huA hotA? aisA gurudev kahate hain. aise guru aise panchamakAlamen padhAre to sabako upakAr huA, nahIn to kyA hotA? gurudev padhAre to sabako mArga spaShTa karake batAyA.

mumukShu- gnAn mokShakA kAraN nahIn hai, puna samyagdarshan-gnAn-chAritrANI mokShamArga. to mithyAdarshan-gnAn-chAritrANI bandhamArga, aisA?

samAdhAna- mithyAdarshan, gnAn, chAritrako bandhakA mArga kahate hI hain. lekin mukhya usamen mithyAdarshan hai na. mithyAdarshanake kAraN gnAnamen mithyApan kahanemen AtA hai. darshan mithyA yAnI gnAn mithyA aur chAritra mithyA hai. usakI dRuShTi UlaTI hai, isaliye AcharaN bhI mithyA aur gnAn bhI mithyA. darshanake kAraN donommen usamen mithyApanA lAgU paDatA

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hai.

mumukShu- darshanake kAraN donommen mithyApanA lAgU paDatA hai. parantu svatantra dononkA dekhA jAy to? gnAn aur chAritra svatantra guNakI apekShAse len to...?

samAdhAna- lekin use viparItatA ho gayI hai na. jAnanemen viparItatA A gayI hai. doSh hai, gnAnamen doSh hai. darshanake kAraN doSh, parantu doSh usamen hai, chAritramen bhI doSh hai. usakA kAraN, usakA mukhya kAraN mithyAdarshan hai. lekin usamen svayammen bhI doSh hai.

mumukShu- hAn, kyonki amuk bAr aisA AtA hai ki gnAn bandha-mokShakA kAraN nahIn hai. aur phir in dononkA..

samAdhAna- gnAn yAnI jAnanA vah bandhakA kAraN nahIn hai. lekin mithyA-viparIt jAne vah to nukasAn hai na. vah to doSh hai. jAne, bAhar upayog jAya. jAne usamen vikalpa Aye, rAg hai vah doShakA kAraN hai. parantu usamen mithyA-jUTh jAne vah to doSh hI hai, viparIt jAnatA hai vah to.

mumukShu- to phir shreNimen mAtAjI! ekatva, .. aise jo bhed shreNimen paDate hain, us vakta upayogAtmak gnAn bhI parako jAn rahA hai, phir bhI vah gnAn Age baDhakar mokShako prApta karatA hai. to us vakta use us gnAnamen...?

samAdhAna- vah abuddhipUrvak hai na, use buddhipUrvak nahIn hai. abuddhipUrvak rAg hai. kShayopashamagnAn hai na. dravya-guN-paryAyamen vikalpa jo phiratA hai, usamen gnAn phiratA hai usake sAth abuddhipUrvak vikalpa bhI hai. utanA abuddhipUrvakakA rAg bhI hai. isaliye vahAn kevalagnAn hotA nahIn.

mumukShu- utanA doSh hai.

samAdhAna- vah doSh hai. gnAn phire... vahAn sAthamen abuddhipUrvakakA vikalpa hai. gnAn adhUrA hai. ek gneyase dUsare gneyamen phiratA hai, vah gnAnamen khaNDa-khaNDa hotA hai. utanA vikalpake kAraN hai. sAthamen vikalpa AtA hai. kShayopasham-adhUrA gnAn ho usamen sAthamen vikalpa AtA hai. samyaggnAnIko gnAnamen doSh nahIn hai, parantu sAthamen vikalpa AtA hai vah use doSh hotA hai. samyaggnAnIkA gnAn samyak hai. usakA gnAn samyak hai, parantu sAthamen vikalpa hai vah doSh hai. mithyAdRuShTiko to darshanake kAraN gnAn mithyA hai. isaliye use gnAnamen bhI viparItatA A jAtI hai. jAnanA vah doSh nahIn hai. lekin use viparIt jAnatA hai vah doSh hai.

mumukShu- agnAn dashAmen utanA aparAdh hai.

samAdhAna- shraddhAke kAraN jAnanemen viparItatA hai. chAritra bhI mithyA hai.

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mumukShu- gnAn honeke bAd vikalpa hai, usakA aparAdh hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, vikalpakA. khaNDa-khaNDa gnAn hai, gnAn khaNDa-khaNDa ho usake sAth vikalpa hai. kShayopasham gnAnIko vikalpa sAthamen hotA hai.

mumukShu- parako jAnanA..

samAdhAna- parako jAnanA chhoDanA aise nahIn, lekin svasanmukh dRuShTi kara. tU svayamko jAna. svaparaprakAshak sahaj gnAt ho jAy vah (alag bAt hai). lekin tU tere AtmAko jAn, aisA kahanA hai. jAnanA chhoDanA aise nahIn, usakI viparItatA chhoDa. yathArtha jAna. viparIt jAnanA chhoDa. yathArtha AtmAkA svarUp jAn isaliye sab yathArtha hI AyegA. AtmA to svaparaprakAshak usakA svarUp hai. tU sva-or upayog kar, aisA kahanA hai.

... bandhakI avasthA, vibhAv avasthA, gnAyak jAne to bhI gnAyak to gnAyak hI hai. pramatta-apramattakI avasthAmen gnAyak to gnAyak hI hai. gnAyak par dRuShTi karanI. dRuShTikI pradhAnatAse kahate hain. kisI bhI avasthAmen gnAyak to gnAyak hI hai. pramatta- apramatta vibhAvakI avasthA, sAdhakakI avasdhA, sAdhakakI adhUrI avasthAmen gnAyak to gnAyak hI hai. gnAyak sva-paraprakAshaka. gnAyak parako jAne to bhI gnAyakako kahIn ashuddhatA nahIn AtI, gnAyak to gnAyak hai. jAne isaliye ashuddhatA nahIn AtI. gnAyak to gnAyak pratyek avasthAmen rahatA hai. vastu sthiti gnAyakakI.. pragaT huA to bhI gnAyak gnAyak hai. sAdhak avasthAmen bhI gnAyak to gnAyak hI hai. gnAyak par dRuShTi karanI, aisA.

.. avasthA par hamArI dRuShTi nahIn hai, parantu dRuShTi hamArI gnAyak par hai. gnAyak vah to gnAyak hI hai. gnAyak to shuddha, shuddha gnAyak vah gnAyak hai. koI bhI avasthAmen gnAyak to gnAyak hI hai. pramatta-apramatta avasthAmen bhI gnAyak to gnAyak hI hai. ... jitanA nahIn hai. gnAyak to pUrNa avasthA ho to bhI gnAyak to gnAyak hI hai. us gnAyak par dRuShTi karane jaisI hai. gnAtAdhArAkI avasthAmen gnAyak gnAyak hI hai. anAdiananta gnAyak gnAyak hI hai.

mumukShu- pravachanasAramen aisA kahA ki ... rAgarUp hai aur ashubh pariNAmake samay ashubharUp hai, us vakta AtmA tanmay hai.

samAdhAna- vah apekShA alag hai. yahAn to dravya par dRuShTi karanI, dravyakI pradhAnatAse bAt hai. dravyadRuShTikI pradhAnatAse bAt hai. dravya anAdiananta shuddha hI hai. us dravya par dRuShTi karanI. chAhe kisI bhI avasthAmen gnAyak gnAyak hI hai. gnAyakamen,.. paryAyake kAraN gnAyakamen ashuddhatA nahIn AtI, aisA kahate hain. aur yahAn kahate hain ki jo paryAy hotI hai, vah paryAy kahIn Upar-Upar alag nahIn hai, dravya us rUp pariNamatA hai, aisA kahanekA Ashay hai. pravachanasAramen. ashuddhatAkI avasthAmen terA dravya usamen pariNamatA hai,

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aisA kahate hain. vah jaD nahIn hai. vahAn dUsarI apekShAse bAt hai. yahAn dUsarI apekShAse bAt hai.

anAdiananta shAshvat dravya jaisA hai vaisA hai. aise dravyako pahichAna. phir sAdhak avasthAmen vah gnAyak to gnAyak hI hai. pragaT huA vah gnAyaka. gnAyakakI pariNati pragaT huyI, gnAyak gnAyak hI hai. adhUrI avasthA jitanA gnAyak nahIn hai. isaliye dRuShTi gnAyak par karanI. lekin vahAn aisA kahate hain ki jo paryAy... paryAyakA gnAn kara. lekin vah ashuddhatA terA svabhAv nahIn hai. parantu vah paryAy terI avasthA hai. paryAy jaDakI nahIn hai, vahAn aisA kahanekA Ashay hai.

mumukShu- dravya tanmay nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- tanmay kahen, vyavahArase tanmay kahalAtA hai. vAstavik dravyakA svabhAv usamen palaTakar kahIn dravya us rUp nahIn ho jAtA. to-to shuddha hove hI nahIn. vastu svabhAvase dravya shuddha hai, parantu paryAyamen use ashuddhatA kahanemen Aye. vyavahArase ashuddhatA kahanemen Aye. bilakUl nahIn huA ho to jaDamen hI hotA hai aisA nahIn hai. to svayamko puruShArtha karake TAlanA nahIn rahatA. tanmay hotA hai, vah vyavahArase tanmay kahanemen AtA hai. pravachanasAramen us apekShAse bAt hai.

aisA tanmay nahIn hai ki usamense bilakUl bhinna hI na paDe. jaise barpha aur shItalatA, usakA svabhAv hI (tanmay hai). vaise usakA gnAnasvabhAv alag nahIn paDatA aisA tanmay hai. us prakArase vibhAv tanmay nahIn hai. parantu vah tanmay hai, vyavahArase tanmay kahanemen Aye. kyonki us rUp vah pariNamA hai, vartamAnamen us rUp pariNamA hai isaliye. isaliye use vyavahArase tanmay kahanemen AtA hai. pravachanasAramen vah kahate haiain. donon apekShAen bhinna- bhinna hain. vahAn paryAy teremen hotI hai, aisA kahate hain. yahAn kahate hain, us paryAyake svarUp par dRuShTi nahIn karake, tU gnAyak hai, us par dRuShTi kara. paryAyake pheraphAr ho, us par dRuShTi nahIn karake, tU gnAyak so gnAyak hai, aisI shuddhatAse bharA shuddha gnAyak hai. vahAn aisA kahate hain. paryAyakI ashuddhatA teremen AtI nahIn.

isaliye tU dravyadRuShTi pragaT kar, bhedagnAn pragaT kar, to hI muktikA mArga prArambh hotA hai. isaliye aisA nahIn kahanA hai ki vah paryAy jaDamen hotI hai. paryAy jaDamen hotI hai aise nahIn, terI paryAy, terI chaitanyakI paryAyamen tere puruShArthakI mandatAse hotA hai. usakA gnAn kara. lekin dRuShTi to gnAyakakI shuddhatA kaisI hai, yah batAte hain vahAn. aisI pariNati ho to hI svAnubhUti ho, to hI muktikA mArga prArambh ho. lekin paryAy jaDamen hotI ho to puruShArtha karanA kahAn rahatA hai? paryAyamen vah ashuddhatA hai aur use TAlakar shuddha paryAy pragaT hotI hai. vah palaTakar shuddha paryAy pragaT hotI hai. shuddhatA

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tere dravyamen bharI hai, usamense shuddhaparyAy pragaT hotI hai.

.. pramatta-apramatta dashAmen gnAyak so gnAyak hai. chhaThaven-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate hain. antaramen svAnubhUti Anandamen lIn hote hain, bAhar Ate hain. us dashAmen jhulate-jhulate kahate hain, gnAyak to gnAyak hai. donon avasthAmen gnAyak vah gnAyak hI hai.

mumukShu- gnAyak bhinna rah gayA? samAdhAna- avasthA bhinna, avasthAkA svarUp alag aur gnAyak dravyakA svarUp alag hai, aisA batAte hain. paryAy-or lakShya.... paryAy apanemen hotI hai. parantu dravyadRuShTise paryAy apanI nahIn hai, aisA dravyadRuShTise kahate hain. apanI nahIn hai isakA matalab jaDamen hotI hai, aisA nahIn hai. vah anAdiananta shAshvat dravya hai. paryAy to kShaNik hai. aisA kahate hain. hotI to hai chaitanyakI paryAy, jaDakI nahIn hotI.