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mumukShu- ... visheSh spaShTIkaraN karate hue dUsarI TIkA likhI. yah TIkA pUrNa honekA bAd dUsarI TIkA likhI. usamen aisA hai ki... 17-18 gAthAkI TIkA pUrI karaneke bAd phirase dUsarI...

samAdhAna- jAnatA nahIn hai. gnAyak dravyarUp svabhAvase hone par bhI pragaT jAnatA nahIn hai. shaktimen jAnatA hone par bhI jAnatA nahIn hai. sevan karatA hone par bhI, vah shakti evan dravyarUpase. hone par bhI, usakA astitva honeke bAvajUd pragaTarUpase sevatA nahIn. pragaTapane ArAdhatA nahIn.

mumukShu- sAmarthya hone par bhI paryAy ... jAnatA nahIn.

samAdhAna- hAn, nahIn jAnatA hai.

mumukShu- hone par bhI jAnatA nahIn hai.

mumukShu- gnAyak hone par bhI usakI upAsanA karanekA upadesh kyon denemen AtA hai? vah jo peregrAph hai na usakA...

samAdhAna- shaktimen dravyarUpase tU us rUp hai, jAnatA hone par bhI jAnatA nahIn hai.

mumukShu- ... jAnatA hI nahIn hai. ... ho rahA hai to phir kyon upAsanA? ki sevan hI nahIn kiyA. aisA uttar diyA.

samAdhAna- AchAryadev anubhUtisvarUp kahate hain, tU anubhavamen A rahA hai, aisA kahanA chAhate hain. parantu puruShArtha karake pragaT anubhUti ho tab tujhe santoSh hogA. isaliye dravyarUp tU hai, aisA AchAryadev kahate hain. terA gnAyak us rUp hai. sanatabhAIke sAth dUsarA koI AyA thA.

mumukShu- tujhamen jo kAm ho rahA hai, use jAnanekA hai aur tU jAnatA nahIn hai. .... vah tU hai. ... kahAn dUsareko pahichAnanA hai? jis rUp tU hai us rUp tujhe jAnanA hai. dUsarA ho to ThIk ki dikhAI nahIn detA. teremen hI kAm ho rahA hai, kAyam TikanekA. main sharIr, main rAg,...

mumukShu- bhainsekA dhyAn karate-karate main bhainsA ho gayA hUn. AbAlagopal tujhe manuShyarUp hI anubhavamen A rahA hai, manuShyarUp hI tU anubhavamen A rahA hai.

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samAdhAna- AbAlagopAl sabako anubhUtisvarUp AtmA ho rahA hai. vah pahichAnatA nahIn hai.

mumukShu- anyathA adhyavasit hotA hai. ho rahA hai, jis svarUpamen hai us rUpa. lekin adhyAsit anyathA karatA hai. ekatva spaShTa prakAshamAn hone par bhI kaShAyachakrake sAth ekamek karake anyathA... chauthI gAthA. AbAlagopAl sabako ekatvarUp jo hai us rUp... samyaggnAn hai lekin darshan mithyA hai. anubhUtisvarUp bhagavAn AtmA anubhUyamAneti, grAhyamAneti nahIn hai.

mumukShu- bhAvArthamen gnAnakA artha liyA hai. mumukShu- le sakate hain. anubhUtisvarUp bhagavAn AtmA. dUsarA lo, pAriNAmikabhAvasvarUp bhagavAn AtmA, vah bhI anubhUtike arthamen le sakate hain. athavA anubhUti arthAt gnAnasvarUp bhagavAn AtmA, aisA gnAnasvarUp bhagavAn AtmA anubhUyamAna vedanamen A rahA hai, us svarUpamen, to bhI vah jAnatA nahIn hai. anubhUtimen le sakate hain. vah anubhUti arthAt gnAn-gnAn kahA, anubhUtisvarUp bhagavAn AtmA. gnAn.. gnAn.. gnAnasvarUp bhagavAn AtmA svayam anubhUyamAne. vah svarUp use vedanamen A rahA hai ki main to gnAn.. gnAn.. gnAn hUn. phir bhI jAnatA nahIn. us anubhUyamAnamen jAnanA nahIn le sakate.

mumukShu- mAnanemen jAnanA nahIn le sakate. mumukShu- anubhUtisvarUpamen le sakate hain. usamen liyA hai na? ShaTakArakarUpa. 73 gAthA.

mumukShu- vahAn pAriNAmik liyA hai. vahAn spaShTa ... mumukShu- athavA gnAnasvarUpase dhruv, gnAnasvarUpase dhruv lo. gnAn len to. aur gnAn na len to pAriNAmikasvarUpa.

mumukShu- anubhavamen A rahA hai usakA Apane artha kiyA na ki vedanamen A rahA hai.

mumukShu- hAn, vedanamen A rahA hai. bahut spaShTa bAt hai.

mumukShu- gnAnakA pariNaman ho rahA hai, vah vedanamen A rahA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, us arthamen hai. gnAnakA vedan ho rahA hai. vah artha hai.

mumukShu- shAstramense yah sab samajhamen A jAtA ho to pratyakSha gnAnIkI jarUrat hI kahAn hai?

mumukShu- pratyakSha sadaguru sam nahIn, parokSha jin upakAra. aivo lakShya thayA vinA, Uge na AtmavichAra. AtmavichAr bhI uge nahIn.

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samAdhAna- gurudevane mArga itanA spaShTa kar diyA hai. usamense gurudev dravya-guN- paryAyakI sUkShma bAten (karate the), sabake kAnamen DAl dI hai. kahIn koI aTake nahIn aise. nahIn to kahAn kriyAmen the. shubhabhAvamen. vahAnse dravya-guN-paryAyamen (le Aye). us bAtako ekadam sUkShma karake batAyI. sab sUkShma bAten bAhar A gayI.

mumukShu- bAhya kriyA aur shubharAgakI hI bAt thI. usamense dravyAnuyogakA svabhAv, vibhAv, dravya, guN, paryAy Adi..

samAdhAna- kriyAkA to alag kiyA, parantu dravya-guN-paryAyakA gurudevane ekadam spaShTIkaraN kar diyA.

samAdhAna- ... AtmAkI ruchi karanI, usakI mahimA karanI, usakI lagan lagAnI. bAharakI ruchi kam karanI. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, AtmAkI mahimA karanI. AtmAkA svabhAv kyA hai? AtmA jAnanevAlA gnAyak hai, usamen bharA hai, usamen ananta guN, vah apUrva vastu hai. bAhar kahIn apUrvatA nahIn hai. usakI apUrvatA lagAkar use pahichAnanekA prayatna karanA, bhedagnAn karanA. vah karanekA prayatna karanA. usake liye vAnchan, vichAr, shAstra-svAdhyAy sab karane jaisA hai. mandir aur pratiShThA ho, bhagavAn jinendra devakI mahimA, gurukI mahimA Adi karane jaisA hai.

chaitanyatattva kaise pahachAnamen Aye? AtmA kaise pahachAnamen Aye? ananta kAlase pahachAnA nahIn. gurudevane batAyA. sab bAhya kriyAmen dharma mAnate the, shubhabhAvase dharma hogA, aisA mAnate the. lekin sab shubhabhAvamen (dharma nahIn hai). bIchamen shubhabhAv Ate hain, lekin vah AtmAkA svarUp nahIn hai. un sabase AtmAko bhinna pahichAnanA. AtmAmen ananta guN (hain). koI adabhut tattva hai, anupam tattva hai, use pahichAnanekA prayatna karanA. vah apUrva vastu hai. usakI svAnubhUti kaise ho? muktikA mArga kaise pragaT ho? vah jIvanamen karanekA hai.

bachapanase bahut sunA hai, gurudevane kahA hai. use lakShaNase pahichAnakar bhinna karanA, vah karanekA hai. (bhinna hI hai), parantu svayam bhrAntise usamen juDatA hai. puruShArtha karanA vahI karanA hai. svayam puruShArtha karate rahanA, abhyAs karate rahanA. bArambAr ek hI karate rahanA. chaitanya gnAyak hai, gnAyak hai, usIkA abhyAs karate rahanA. vismRut ho jAy to bhI vahI abhyAs karate rahanA. vahI karanekA hai.

bArambAr bhedagnAn karate rahanA. ye sharIr bhinna, vibhAv bhinna, sab bhinna hai. mArga ek hI hai. usake liye sab vichAr, vAnchan sab usake liye hain. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Adi sab ek chaitanyake liye (hai). chaitanya, bas, chaitanya.. chaitanya, usIkA raTan karane jaisA hai, bArambAra. usakA svabhAv pahichAnakar vah karanekA hai.

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mumukShu- pragaT hai, mahAn hai, Ap kahate ho ki lakShaNase hI Apako prApta ho jAyagA.

samAdhAna- lakShaNase pahichAnA jAtA hai. vah svayam hI hai, anya koI nahIn hai.

mumukShu- svayam us rUp hI hai.

samAdhAna- us rUp hI hai.

mumukShu- hAn jI. gurudev bahut kahakar gaye hain aur Ap bahut kahate ho. parantu gurudev paramaguru aur mere to Ap bhI guru hI ho.

samAdhAna- .. abhyAs karate rahanA. bArambAr abhyAs karate rahanA, na ho to bhI. bArambAr karate rahanA.

mumukShu- Apako to dhanya hai! Ap jaisI koI vyakti is vishvamen nahIn hai, mAtAjI! naman karane jaisI vyakti yA smaraN karane jaisI vyakti to ek Ap hI ho.

samAdhAna- ApakA svAsthya barAbar nahIn rahatA thA, ThIk rahatA hai? .. mahAbhAgya, itane jIvonko taiyAr kar diye. pUrA hindustAn taiyAr kar diyA. har ek vyakti kitane taiyAr ho gaye hain. AtmA-AtmA karanA sIkh gaye hain. is panchamakAlamen sab kriyAmen paDe the. shubhabhAvase dharma hotA hai, aisA mAnate the. usake bajAy AtmA.. AtmA.. shubhAshubh bhAvase AtmA nyArA hai. bhale bIchamen shubhabhAv Aye, lekin terA svabhAv nahIn hai. tU usase bhinna hai, aisA kahanevAle gurudev mile. dravya-guN-paryAyakI gaharI-gaharI .. kI. gurudevane pUre hindustAn, hindI-gujarAtI sabako gurudevane taiyAr kiyA. gurudevane hI sabako muktike mArga par moD diye hain. mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. aisA bhedagnAnakA, svAnubhUtikA mArga batAyA.

mumukShu- kisIko guru na mile, aise guru panchamakAlamen.. AhAhA..! kuchh alag hI prakArase kahate the.

samAdhAna- bhedagnAn karanA vahI muktikA mArga hai, svAnubhUti karanA vahI (muktikA mArga hai).

mumukShu- bhedagnAn hI mukhya vastu hai.

samAdhAna- bhedagnAn mukhya vastu hai.

mumukShu- bhedagnAn honeke bAd hI apane AtmAkA lakShya hotA hai.

samAdhAna- kevalagnAn bAdamen hotA hai, pahale to usakA bhedagnAn hotA hai. jo pariNati Aye usakA bhed varte yA usakA ras TUT jAy yA bhedagnAn ho ki main chaitanya gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn, aisI pariNati rahA kare. kabhI-kabhI usakI svAnubhUti ho. bAkI bhedagnAnakI dhArA nirantar vartatI rahe, aisI samyagdRuShTiko pariNati hotI hai.

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mumukShu- shAnti arthAt samAdhi rahe.

samAdhAna- hAn, Anshik gnAyakake vedanakI pariNati rahanI chAhiye na. ... karanekA svayamko bAkI rahatA hai. bAkI sachchA gnAn... gurudevane param upakAr kiyA hai. sabako upakAr karake kahAn pahunchA diye hain! yathArtha gnAn... isake pahale bhI koI AyA thA ki gurudevane kahAn... gurudevane sabako kitanI yathArtha dRuShTi karavAyI hai. aisA dete hain vaisI to hamAre gurudevane sabako yathArtha dRuShTi dI hai. kahIn galat jagahamen nahIn phansakar ek gnAyak satya hai. gurudevane yathArtha dRuShTi dI hai. sab aisA mAne ki nimittamAtra hUn, kar nahIn sakatA, aisA bole. lekin antar pariNati honI ek alag vastu hai. sabako diyA. Adhe ghaNTe, ek ghaNTemen sabako diyA jAtA hai. aise diyA jAtA ho to ananta kAlase kyon nahIn huA? shAstrommen usakI durlabhatA kitanI batAyI hai.

gurudevane pAmarako pAr utArA, aisA (kArya) kiyA hai. .. sabako diye hain. sab bhUle hueko mArga diyA hai. kahIn bhUlA na paDe (aise) divyachakShu de diye hain. svayamko chalanekA bAkI rahA hai. bAkI kis rAste par jAnA, vah batA diyA hai. kriyAmen mat aTakanA, shubhAshubh bhAvamen.. shubhabhAvamen mainne itanA kiyA, yah kiyA, vah kiyA, itanA vAnchan kiyA, itanA raTan kiyA, itanA paDhA, mandir gayA, pUjA kI... kahIn aTak jAy aisA nahIn rakhA hai. paryAyamAtra... paryAyakA lakShya karanemen aTakegA to shAshvat dravya grahaN nahIn kar sakegA. mAtra gnAyakako jAno. bAhya jAnanese, ek-ek gneyako, aise khaNDa-khaNDa gnAnako jAnanese bhI akhaNDa pakaDamen nahIn AyagA. akhaNDako grahaN kara. kahAnse kahAn lAkar rakh diyA hai. kahAn ye bAt sab karate aur kahAn vah bAt hai. aisI bAt use sUkShma lage, gurudevakI bAt to sUkShmase sUkShma hai. dravya, guN, paryAya.

.. parantu andar dravyako grahaN karanA. kShaNik paryAy jo ho rahI hai. paryAyamen bhI aTakanA nahIn. kahAn gurudevane lAkar rakh diyA hai. bhedagnAn karanA. samayasAramen (AtA hai), nayapakShonse atikrAnta. kisI bhI nayapakShakA grahaN nahIn karanA.

mumukShu- ek to anAdikA anajAnA mArga...

samAdhAna- usamen kahIn-kahIn aTak gayA hai. bhedagnAn honA chAhiye, jAgate, sote, svapnamen. to kahate the, sab unakA hI hai. ham sabako aisA hai, aisA usane kahA. ek bahin thI na? sabako unhonne aisA diyA hai. sab kahAn khaDe hain? bhUl khA jAte hain.

mumukShu- .. sUkShma kar, aisA AtA hai. isamen kyA kahanA hai? kaise karanA?

samAdhAna- upayog sthUl ho gayA hai. sab sthUlatAse grahaN hotA hai. ye sab bAharakA hai. bAharake upayogamen ye jo vikalpa, rAg Adi grahaN kar rahA hai, sthUl

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bAhya vastu gneyarUpase grahaN (karatA hai). andar AtmAko grahaN kare vah upayog sUkShma hai. AtmAkA svabhAv pahichAnakar antaramen jAy, vah upayog sUkShma hai. sUkShma hokar antaramen jAy to svayamko grahaN kar sakatA hai. bAkI bAhya vastu grahaN kare yA sthUl- sthUl vichAr kare vah sab upayog sthUl hai. antaramen nij chaitanyadravyako grahaN karanA, vah upayog sUkShma hai.

mumukShu- gyArah ang takako sthUl upayog kahA. paramAgamasAramen hai ki gyArah angakA upayog sthUl hai aur chaitanyasvabhAvako grahaN karatA hai vah upayog sUkShma hai.

samAdhAna- (vah) upayog sUkShma hai. chaitanyadravyako grahaN nahIn kiyA hai isaliye upayog sthUl hai. nij chaitanyako grahaN kare to upayog sUkShma hai. gyArah angakA gnAn kiyA, usamen sab jAnA, parantu AtmAko grahaN nahIn kiyA to sab sthUl hai. andaramen AtmA chaitanyatattva grahaN (nahIn kiyA). bhale use shrutagnAn huA, dravya-guN-paryAy jAne, sab jAnA to sahI, lekin main yah chaitanya hUn, aise grahaN nahIn kiyA. vah upayog sthUl hai.

upayog svasanmukh nahIn muDA, upayog bAhar hI rahA isaliye upayog sthUl hai. antaramen chaitanyako grahaN kare to upayog sUkShma hai. kuchh bhI jAnA, to bhI upayogako sthUl kahanemen AtA hai. kyonki svayamko grahaN nahIn kiyA isaliye. svasanmukh-apanI or dishA muDI isaliye upayog bAhar hai. bAhar rahA huA upayog sthUl hai. gyArah angamen use sab A gayA. dravya-guN-paryAy sab, anek jAtakI bAten, shrutagnAnakI bAten jAnI, chaitanyakI or upayog nahIn gayA, nij svabhAvako grahaN nahIn kiyA, isaliye sthUl hai. gyArah angamen nau tattva, chha dravya, dravya-guN-paryAy sab jAnA.

mumukShu- sthUl upayogake sambandhamen to Ap jo vistAr karate ho, vah to khyAlamen Ave. parantu sUkShma upayogakA viShay, unake prashnamen vah hai. hamAre vahAn chalA thA. isaliye pUchhA.

samAdhAna- apane antaramen upayog jAy vah upayog sUkShma hai. svasanmukh jAy ki main yah chaitanya hUn, yah chaitanyadravya hUn, gnAyak hUn, aise nij svabhAvakI or jAy, usakI dishA badale. usamen dishA bAhar hI hai. dishA antaramen jAy, apane arUpI tattvako grahaN kare to upayog sUkShma hai. antaramen jAkar svabhAvako grahaN kare to sUkShma hai. dhIrA hokar antaramen yah svabhAv hai aur yah vibhAv hai. aise svayam apane svabhAvako grahaN kare to sUkShmatA kahanemen AtI hai.

mumukShu- arUpI tattvako grahaN karaneke laye lakShaNakA bhAvabhAsan pahale vikalpAtmak honA chAhiye, aisA kuchh hai?

samAdhAna- lakShaN svayam svayamko pahichAne. bhAvabhAsana. lakShaN, bhAvabhAsan vah

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sab ekasAth hI hotA hai. yah chaitanyalakShaN hai aur yah vibhAvalakShaN hai. donon lakShaNako bhinna kare to vah vAstavik sUkShmatA hai. bhAvabhAsan ho to antaramen use grahaN ho jAya. yathArtha bhAvabhAsan ho to antaramen chaitanya grahaN ho hI jAtA hai. abhI tak yathArtha bhAvabhAsan nahIn huA hai.

mumukShu- vikalpAtmak yathArtha bhAvabhAsan nahIn huA hai?

samAdhAna- vikalpAtmak vah buddhise hotA hai. isaliye use vyavahArase yathArtha kahanemen AtA hai. vAstavik yathArtha svayamko-chaitanyako grahaN kare to hI vah yathArthatA hai. vAstavik yathArthatA tab kahanemen AtI hai. buddhise nirNay kare to use yathArtha kahanemen AtA hai, parantu vAstavikarUpase yathArtha svayamko grahaN kare tab kahanemen AtA hai.

mumukShu- aisA kuchh hai ki paradravyakI paryAy rAg aur gnAn, pragaT gnAnabhAv, pragaT gnAnabhAv use khyAlamen Aye ki yah jAnapanA, yah jAnapanA, yah jAnapanA. aise khyAlapUrvak yah jAnanevAlA so main, aisA jA sakatA hai?

samAdhAna- rAgake sAth jo gnAn hai vah gnAn hai, vah ek kShaNik paryAy hai. isaliye vah paryAy hai utanA hI main nahIn hUn, main to shAshvat hUn. akhaNDa gnAyak hUn, aise grahaN honA chAhiye.

mumukShu- aisA trikAlI jAnanevAlA.

samAdhAna- hAn, main trikAl jAnanevAlA hUn. ye kShaNik jo gnAnakI paryAy kShaN- kShaNamen badalatI hai vah kShaN-kShaNamen badalatI paryAy, aisA main nahIn hUn. parantu main shAshvat svayam gnAyak hI hUn. svayam merA astitva hI gnAyak hai. merA astitva gnAyakatAse hI rachit hai. svayam rachit hai. gnAyakatAsvarUp jo astitva hai vahI main hUn. mAtra ye kShaN- kShaNamen parivartan hotA hai, vah parivartan merA mUl vAstavik svarUp nahIn hai. parantu svayam gnAyakase hI merA astitva gnAyakatAse rachit akhaNDa hai. vah main gnAyaka. aise gnAyakako grahaN kare.

ye kShaNikamAtra jo gnAn-gnAn dikhatA hai, vah merA mUl astitva nahIn hai. vah to paryAy badalatI hai. aise grahaN honA chAhiye. anantAse bharA akhaNDa gnAyakatAse rachit astitva ananta-ananta agAdh shaktiyonse bharA jo gnAyakatAkA astitva hai, vah main hUn. anantatA use dikhatI nahIn hai, lekin use itanI mahimA antaramen A jAtI hai ki jo astitva gnAyakatAse rachit hai, agAdh shaktionse bharA aisA merA astitva hai. khAlI astitva yA gnAyak aise nahIn, parantu ananta shaktionse bharA, aisI jo gnAyakatA, vaisI merI gnAyakatA hai. aise mahimApUrvak antaramense use gnAyakatA grahaN honI chAhiye.