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samAdhAna- ... sab vah karanekA hai. usIke liye yah sab tattvavichAr, vAnchan, svAdhyAy ek chaitanyatattva pahichAnaneke liye (hai). gurudevane vahI kahA hai. sabakA sAr ek hI hai ki chaitanyatattva pahichAnanA. usakI pariNati, usakI svAnubhUti pragaT karanI vahI ek, sarvasva sAr ek hai. jIvanakI saphalatA usamen hai. usakI bhAvanA, usakI mahimA, usakA vichAr, usakA nirNay, usakI pariNati, jo puruShArtha ho vah usIke liye karane jaisA hai.

mumukShu- Urdhvalok, madhyalok aur adholoka. usamen adholokamen jin mandirakI sankhyA jyAdA hai. vahAn aise pariNAm...?

samAdhAna- kudaratI shAshvat pratimAen hain.

mumukShu- vahAn jyAdA hai. .. pAtAlalokamen.

samAdhAna- asankhyAt jinamandir hain. vyantaralok, bhavanapati, jyotiSh un sabamen shAshvat jin mandir hain. kudaratI shAshvat hain. devalokake devonke nivAsamen hain. adholok yAnI jahAn dev basate hain, jyotiSh, vyantar, bhavanapati. vaimAnikamen to hain hI. vahAn sab jagah hain. manuShyalokamen hai, sab jagah hain, shAshvat pratimAen.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! AtmAko jo pakaDanekA hai, vah to ughAD to gnAnakA kShayopasham ansh hai vah ughADarUp ansh hai, usImen pUrA AtmA pakaDamen AtA hai? ughAD anshamen hI? dUsarA koI sAdhan to hai nahIn. agnAnIke pAs dUsarA koI sAdhan hai nahIn.

samAdhAna- antarakI svayamkI jo ruchi hai vah svayamko grahaN karatI hai. yahI karane jaisA hai, main kaise AtmAko khojU? apanI khojanekI bhAvanA hai, aur andarakI jo mahimA, chaTapaTI lage vahI apane gnAyakako, vah bhale hI kShayopashamakA ansh hai, parantu vah AtmAko grahaN kar letA hai. vah bhale paryAy hai, lekin grahaN dravyako karanA hai. dravyako grahaN karatI hai. usakI dRuShTi pUre dravya par jAtI hai. vah kShayopasham bhale thoDA ho, lekin vah mukhya prayojanabhUt tattvako grahaN kar sakatA hai. usakI or ruchi aur lagan ho to grahaN ho sakatA hai. vibhAvase bhinna hokar chaitanyako grahaN kar letA hai.

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shAstramen AtA hai na? utanA kalyAN, satyArtha kalyAN ek hI ki jo yah gnAnasvarUp AtmA hai, gnAyak AtmA hai. usamen santuShTa ho, usImen tRupta ho, vahI karanekA hai. usImen sab sarvasva hai. vah grahaN hotA hai. bhale paryAy hai, parantu akhaNDako grahaN kar letI hai.

mumukShu- jI hAn, usamen tAkat hai.

samAdhAna- usamen grahaN karanekI tAkat hai.

mumukShu- ansh hai lekin svabhAvakA hai.

samAdhAna- apane gnAnakA ansh hai, vah dravyako grahaN karatA hai. usakI dishA apanI or jAy, dRuShTi apanI or jAy to grahaN karatA hai. upayog bAhar ho vah grahaN nahIn karatA. apane svabhAvakI or jAy to svabhAvako grahaN karatA hai.

mumukShu- svAsthya kaisA rahatA hai? mAtAjI!

samAdhAna- gurudevane bahut prabhAvanA kI hai. apane to unake pAs samajhe hain.

mumukShu- gurudev yahAn Aye ki nahIn? mAtAjI! Ap to unake ananya bhakta hain.

samAdhAna- vartamAnamen sAkShAt koI nahIn A sakatA. svapna Aye vah to Ate hain.

mumukShu- dev hain, mAtAjI! A nahIn sakate?

samAdhAna- is panchamakAlamen dev kahAn abhI Ate hain? sAkShAt dev Ate nahIn.

mumukShu- ye to unakI tapobhUmi hai na.

samAdhAna- Aye to kisIkI dekhanekI shakti kahAn hai? devonko dekhanekI abhI ke manuShyonkI shakti kahAn hai?

mumukShu- ham to Apake liye kahate hain.

samAdhAna- AnekA vichAr Aye to koI dekh sake aisA kahAn hai? koI hindI Akar aisA kahate hain, mAnon gurudev pravachan dene Ate hon, phir chale jAte hain, aisA lagatA hai. aisA kahate hain.

mumukShu- merI bhAvanAkA ghoTan chal rahA thA ki mAtAjIke pAs jAkar ... mAngungI.

samAdhAna- baDe ho gaye hain. jIvanamen dhyey to vahI hai. gurudevane kahA vaha. bAharakA to sab hotA hai, sab chalatA rahatA hai. bAkI andar lakShya to ek chaitanyakA karane jaisA hai. jIvanakA dhyey to vahI karanekA hai. AtmAko pahichAnanA vahI karanekA hai. bhavabhramaNakA abhAv kaise ho? aur shuddhAtmAkI prApti kaise ho? vah karanekA hai.

mumukShu- sonagaDhamen rahane par bhI pravRutti itanI rahatI hain ki usamen hamen kis prakArakI jAgRuti rakhanI?

samAdhAna- pravRutti AtmAko rok nahIn sakatI. antarakI pariNati svayamko jaisI

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karanI ho vaisI kar sakatA hai. bAharagAmv jAy to isase bhI jyAdA pravRutti ho jAya. yahAn to isake sambandhit sab hotA hai. bAharagAmv to dUsarI pravRutti ho jAtI hai. yahAn to AtmAke sanskAr dRuDh kaise ho, vaisI pravRutti hotI hai. isaliye svayam apane sanskAr dRuDh karanA vah apane hAthakI bAt hai, apane puruShArthakI bAt hai. ho sakatA hai, bAharake shubhake kArya hon to bhI antaramen ho sakatA hai. svayamko jo puruShArtha karanA ho vah ho sakatA hai.

yahAnkI sab pravRutti to shubhakI hotI hai. bArambAr usake vichAr, usakA gholan, usakA sinchan, yahAn to sab vahI rahatA hai. isaliye bArambAr usIkI dRuDhatA kaise ho, (vah kar sakatA hai). antaramen gaharI ruchi pragaT hokar chaitanyatattva kaise pahichAnamen Aye? bhavakA abhAv kaise ho? AtmAkA sukh kaise prApta ho? svAnubhUti kaise ho? vah sab bhAvanA andar karane jaisA hai. vah karanekA hai.

mumukShu- karane jaisA to lagatA hai, parantu andarase, jaise bharat chakravartIke putronkA puruShArtha kaise phaTA, vaise hamArA puruShArtha ApakI vANIse ekadam jaldI jAgRut ho jAy...?

samAdhAna- puruShArtha to svayamko karanekA hai. bharat chakravartIke putronkI bAt karate hain. karanekA svayamko hai. unhen puruShArtha aisA ugra ho gayA to ho gayA. apanI utanI kachAs hai ki utanI ugratA (nahIn hai).

mumukShu- yahAn to barasonse rahate hain, phir bhI ugratA hoenemen kyon der lagatI hai?

samAdhAna- sab AtmA svatantra hain. chaturtha kAlamen kShaNamen antarmuhUrtamen kevalagnAn prApta karate the, kShaNamen munipanA le le, kShaNamen samyagdarshan prApta karate the. aise sab jIv puruShArtha karate the. samyagdarshan kShaNamAtramen ho jAtA thA. kShaNamAtramen vairAgya A jAtA, kevalagnAn ho jAtA thA. bhagavAnakI maujUdagI ho to anek jIv ekadam jAgRut ho jAte the. parantu is panchamakAlamen gurudev mile aur itane sanskAr andar Dale vah bhI mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. is panchamakAlamen yah milanA bhI durlabh hai.

mumukShu- duniyAmen kahIn aur jagah hai hI nahIn. apane to sImandhar bhagavAn mile aur ApakA itanA yog milA.

samAdhAna- karanekA to svayamko hai. bhedagnAn karanA, kShaN-kShaNamen jAgRuti rakhanI, sab apane hAthakI bAt hai. sharIr bhinna, andar AtmA bhinna, vibhAv svayamkA svabhAv nahIn hai. usamen use santoSh nahIn hotA, AtmAkI prApti ho to santoSh ho. bhedagnAnakI dhArA andarase pragaT karanI, vah apane puruShArthakI bAt hai. kShaN-kShaNamen ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai, use toDanI.

pratham to... bharat chakravartIke putronko kShaNamen samyagdarshan to huA thA, parantu muni

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ho gaye. vah bAt to alag hai. abhI to samyagdarshan kaise ho, vah bAt hai. kShaN- -kShaNamen bhedagnAnakI taiyArI karanI. kShaN-kShaNamen bhedagnAn kaise pragaT ho? kShaN-kShaNamen svayam AtmAko bhinna kare, gnAyakakI svAnubhUti kaise ho? svayamkI bAt to bAdamen AtI hai. vah bAt to dUr hai. abhI to svAnubhUti ho aur svAnubhUtimen lInatA, chaitanyamen lInatA baDhate-baDhate svAnubhUtikI visheShatA ho, vah bAt to usase dUr hai. pahale to andar bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT ho vah pratham karanekA hai. parantu gurudevane yah mArga darshAyA aur us mArga par chalanA huA, vah bhI mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai.

mumukShu- samudrameense kinAre par A gaye, itanA sundar yog hamAre liye hai.

samAdhAna- mArga to kyA hai, vah gurudevane itanA spaShTa karake kahA hai ki kahIn rukanA na ho. jagatake jIv kahIn-kahIn ruke hain. koI kuchh kriyAmen, koI itanA shubhabhAv kar liyA usamen dharma mAn liyA, kisIne kuchh (mAnA). thoDA-thoDA kare usamen dharma mAn lete hain.

gurudevane to kahA, ek gnAyakake alAvA kuchh (nahIn). tU ek AtmAko hI grahaN kara. har jagahase dRuShTi uThAkar ek chaitanya par dRuShTi sthApit kara. gurudevane itanA spaShTa mArga karake darshAyA hai.

mumukShu- .. Ap bhI vaise hI samajhAte hon. Ap sarvAng sahajAnandakI mUrti, jahAnse dekho vahAn Ananda hI Ananda. aisA Ananda hamen kaise jaldI pragaT ho, aisA hotA hai.

samAdhAna- antaramen utanI svayamko gnAyakakI dhArA pragaT honI chAhiye to antaramense Ananda pragaT ho. pahale to yathArtha pratIti usakI itanI dRuDh honI chAhiye, utanI dhArA pragaT honI chAhiye to use Ananda pragaT ho.

mumukShu- itanA Anandase bharA hai aur usakA lakShya karanemen itanA prayatna aur mehanat karanI paDe?

samAdhAna- anAdikA abhyAs bAhar chalA gayA hai. anya ruchimen aTakA hai, bAhya ruchimen, isaliye prayatna nahIn chalatA hai. nahIn to apanA svabhAv hai. vah koI durlabh hai. svabhAv apanA hai aur bAhar bhaTakA rahatA hai, isaliye durlabh ho gayA hai. bAhar vibhAvamen dauDA karatA hai anAdise, isaliye use antaramen AnA mushkil paDatA hai.

mumukShu- hai saral, phir bhI mushkila.

samAdhAna- hAn, mushkil (hai). hai sahaj aur sulabh hai. ek bAr svayam apanI or jAy to sahaj hai. phir use bhavabhramaN TUTakar shuddhAtmAkI or hI usakI pariNati

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sahaj jhukatI jAtI hai. lekin use pratham bhUmikA vikaT hai. vibhAvamense svabhAvamen AnA use durlabh ho paDA hai. svabhAv pragaT honeke bAd svabhAvamense svabhAv pragaT hotA hai. puruShArtha usI or usakA muDatA jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- .. jisane janma dhAraN kiyA use AyuShya pUrA hotA hai aur deh U chhUT jAtA hai. lekin aise guru mile, usakA sanskAr lekar jAy to vah jIv saphal hai. jIvanamen dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA aur gnAyak AtmAko pahichAnanekA abhyAs karanA vahI karane jaisA hai. bAkI ananta janma-maraN kiye usamen aisA mArga batAnevAle guru is panchamakAlamen mile.

AtmA bhinna hai. antaramen svAnubhUti ho, AtmAkA Ananda koI alag hai, yah sab batAnevAle guru mile. usI mArga par chalane jaisA hai. satya to yah hai. (ananta) janma-maraN kiye, usamen manuShyajanma kaise saphal ho? AtmAko andarase bhinna karake bhedagnAn karake usakA abhyAs kare, vah karane jaisA hai. mAnjIko to bahut vaShAkA (parichay hai). .. ho to sahI vaktamen kAm AtA hai.

mumukShu- ApakI tabiyat?

samAdhAna- ThIk hai, pahalese ThIk hai. .. usamen is panchamakAlamen gurudev mile. gurudevane koI mArga batAyA. vah mArga antaramen hai. bAharamen (nahIn hai). antaramen mArga hai. jise mokSha prApta karanA ho to antaramense milatA hai. bAharase nahIn milatA. isaliye andar jo gnAyak svabhAv hai, AtmA gnAyak hai use pahichAnanekA prayatna karanA. usake liye vichAr, vAnchan, shAstra abhyAs, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA vah sab ek AtmAko pahichAnaneke liye hai.

ananta kAlase bahut janma-maraN hue. usamen jIvane sachchA dharma kyA, vah nahIn pahachAnA hai. yah sachchA dharma gurudevane batAyA. vah jIvanamen karanA hai. vah kaise pahichAnamen Aye? usakA abhyAs bArambAr, bArambAr usakI ruchi, abhyAs, vichAr, shAstra abhyAs sab karanekA hai. andar vikalpa ho vah apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. jaise siddha bhagavAn hain, vaisA AtmAkA svarUp hai.

jaise siddha bhagavAn hain, akele chaitanya AtmasvabhAvamen virAjate hain, vaisA svabhAv svayamko kaise pragaT ho? aisI mahimA, aisI ruchi antaramen karane jaisI hai. AtmA andarase bhinna paDakar apanI nirvikalpa svAnubhUtiko kaise prApta kare, vah pragaT karane jaisA hai. apanA svabhAv apanemen-se pragaT hotA hai, bAharase kahInse nahIn AtA. antaramen-se hI svayam hI svayamko khoj lenA hai aur vahI jIvanamen karanA hai. sachamUch to vah karanekA hai.

... andarase ruchi rakhanI hai aur bAhya sAdhan,.. kShetra kitanA dUr... ye to jorAvaranagar

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hai na? unakA vyAkhyAn.. unakI vANI...

mumukShu- unakI vANI bahut achchhI lagatI thI.

samAdhAna- unakI vANI koI alag hI thI. AtmAko batAnevAlI vANI thI. vANI to chaitanyakA svarUp batAtI thI. antaramense kuchh alag hI kahate the. ve bole utanemen to log thambh jAte the. karanekA vahI hai. Atmo koI alag hI padArtha hai. gurudevane batAyA hai.

padArtha koI apUrva hai. jagatamen sab jAnA vah sab niShphal hai. prayojanabhUt ek AtmA hai. jagatamen sArabhUt ho to ek AtmA hI sArabhUt hai. devalokakA bhav bhI ananta bAr milA. parantu ek chaitanya padArtha jIvane jAnA nahIn. vah yathArtha prayojanabhUt hai. usakA vichAr karane jaisA hai, vah paDhane jaisA hai, vah sab karane jaisA hai. usakI mahimA karane jaisI hai.

... karake usakA abhyAs kiyA. gurudevane kahA vah kiyA to vah kuchh jIvanamen saphal hai. bAkI sab to jagatamen chalate rahatA hai. ek dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, tattvakA vichAr, vAnchan, gnAyak kaise pahichAnamen Aye, vah saba. usakA bhedagnAn vah sab karanekA prayAs kare to kuchh to jIvanamen (saphalatA hai), yathArtha to bAdamen pragaT hotA hai. parantu pahale usakI ruchi aur abhyAs kare to bhI saphal hai.

mumukShu- .. kaise karanA?

samAdhAna- pratham to aisA hai ki gnAn yathArtha karanA paDe. mArgako yathArtharUpase pahichAnanA paDe. to sAkShAtkAr ho. jo vastukA svabhAv hai, us svabhAvako yadi barAbar pahichAne to us svabhAvamense AtmAkI jo nirmalatAkI prApti ho vah svabhAvako pahichAnakar hotI hai. aise hI, svabhAvako pahichAne binA aise hI dhyAn kare to dhyAn kahAn karanA aur kahAn khaDA rahanA? isaliye sarva pratham svabhAvako pahichAnanA ki AtmA kaun hai? usakA svabhAv kyA hai? ye bAhar sharIr to paradravya hai. andar vibhAv, vikalpa hote hain, vah vikalpa bhI AtmAkA svabhAv nahIn hai. AtmAkA svabhAv, jaise siddha bhagavAn hain aisA AtmAkA svabhAv hai. isaliye svabhAvako pahichAnanA.

AtmA jAnanevAlA gnAyak hai. jo gnAn hai usImense gnAn pragaT hotA hai. jisakA jo svabhAv ho, usamense pragaT hotA hai. vibhAvamense svabhAv nahIn AtA, svabhAvamense svabhAv AtA hai. isaliye svabhAvako pahichAnanA. isaliye svabhAvako pahichAnanA. gnAnasvarUp AtmA hai use barAbar pahichAnanA. vah dravya kaun hai? usake guN kyA hai? usakI paryAy kyA hai? pahale yathArtha gnAn karanA. usakA prayojanabhUt gnAn to pahale karanA paDe. bhale jyAdA shAstra na jAne, lekin mUl vastu-dravya kyA hai? main kaun hUn? merA

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kyA svabhAv hai? usako pahichAnanA. use pahichAnakar usakI yathArtha pratIt karanI. usakI yathArtha shraddhA (karanI). aisI shraddhA ho ki brahmAN phire to bhI usakI shraddhA na phire, utanI dRuDh shraddhA honI chAhiye. phir usamen lInatA kare to sAkShAtkAr ho. to vikalpa TUTe aur to use nirvikalpa dashA, sAkShAtkAr ho.

andar AtmAmen apUrva Ananda bharA hai. AtmA anupam svarUp hai. parantu use pahichAne aur usamen lInatA kare to ho. yathArtha gnAnake binA yathArtha dhyAn ho nahIn sakatA. isaliye pahale yathArtha gnAn karake phir usakA dhyAn hotA hai.

mumukShu- yathArtha gnAn kaise prApta karanA?

samAdhAna- yathArtha gnAn, jo mahApuruSh, satpuruSh kahate hain vah mArga kyA hai? mArga darshAte hain. satpuruShonkI vANI sunanI. usamen kyA rahasya bharA hai, usakA vichAr karanA. to yathArtha gnAn ho. shAstrommen kyA AtA hai? gurudev virAjate the. unake koI apUrva vAkya, apUrva AtmAkA svarUp batAte the. usakA vichAr karanA. pahale vastu kyA hai, usakA vichAr karanA. tattva chintavan karanA, AtmAkI mahimA karanI. bAharakI mahimA kam ho jAy aur antar AtmAkI yadi mahimA Aye to us or jIvakA jhukAv hotA hai. bAhar kahIn-kahIn aTak jAy to vaise Atma sAkShAtkAr ho nahIn sakatA.

antar AtmAkI ruchi lage, usIkI lagan lage, bArambAr usIkA manan, usakI lagan, usakA vichAr (kare) to Atma sAkShAtkAr ho. kShaN-kShaNamen yah merA svarUp nahIn hai, main to gnAyak hUn. main to chaitanya hUn. aise bArambAr usakI pariNati honI chAhiye, bArambAra. jo satpuruSh kahate hain, usakA bArambAr vichAr karanA.

mumukShu- kyonki hamArI bhagavat gItAmen kahA hai ki AtmA ... ghAt nahIn hotA. AtmA sharIr nahIn hai, man nahIn hai, buddhi nahIn hai. bhinna-bhinna neti.. neti karake jo samajhAyA hai, aise Atmake svarUp paryant pahunch sakate hain?

samAdhAna- pahunch sakatA hai, AtmAke svarUp tak pahunch sakatA hai. parantu pahale usakA vichAr kare, yathArtha nirNay kare, bAdamen usamen usakI yathArtha ekAgratA (hotI hai).

mumukShu- vAnchanase nirNay ho sakatA hai?

samAdhAna- vAnchanake sAth vichAr karanA.

mumukShu- svayam vichAr karanA?

samAdhAna- hAn, svayam vichAr karanA. jab tak svayam yathArtha samajhe nahIn, tab tak satpuruSh kyA kahate hain, usakA vAnchan kare. parantu vichAr svayamko karanA hai. nirNay svayamko karanA paDatA hai. svayam yathArtha nirNay karanA ki svabhAvamense hI svabhAv pragaT hotA hai. jo jisakA svabhAv hai, usImense vah pragaT hotA hai. usakA jaisA bIj ho

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usamense vRukSha hotA hai. jis jAtakA bIj, vaisA vRukSha hotA hai. Amake bIjamen-se AmakA vRukSha hotA hai. ankuDeke bIjamense ankuDA hI hotA hai. vaise AtmAkA svabhAv aisA hai, us svabhAvamen gnAn-vairAgyakA sInchan karanese, usamen ekAgratA karanese usamense jo guN hain, vah pragaT hote hain. AtmAkA svarUp usamense pariNamit hotA hai-usamense pragaT hotA hai.