Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 173.

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samAdhAna- .. vah pratIt svayam andarase vichAr karake nirNay kare ki yah svabhAv so main hUn aur ye svabhAv so main nahIn hUn. jaise bAharamen pratIt karanI ho...

mumukShu- satat chintan?

samAdhAna- hAn, chintan karanA paDe. koI nirNay karanA ho, koI manuShyakI parIkShA karanI ho to svayam vichAr karake jaise nakkI karatA hai yA bAharakI jarUrat mahasUs ho ki isamen apaneko lAbh hai. to usakI dukAn kaisI hai? isamen lAbh hai? munAphA hai? vah jaise parIkShA karake nakkI karatA hai, vaise parIkShA karake nakkI karanA ki yah merA svabhAv hai aur yah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. aise yathArtha pahichAn kare, pratIt kare. AkhIr tak pahunch sakatA hai. svayam AtmA hai, ananta shaktise bharA hai.

mumukShu- bahin! isamen satsangakA mAhAtmya kahAn AtA hai?

samAdhAna- isamen satsangakA mAhAtmya anAdi kAlase anajAnA mArga hai, svayam kuchh jAnatA nahIn. to jAnate hain aise guru aur aise jo sAdharmI hon, unakA satsang kare to svayamko jAnane milatA hai. svayam apaneAp to kuchh jAn nahIn sakatA. isaliye satsang karanekA mahApuruShonne kahA hai ki tU satsang kara.

sansAramen jo anek jAtake parichayamen rahatA hai, to us jAtake use vichAr sphurit hote hain. isaliye satsangamen yathArtha mArga prApta honekA (kAraN banatA hai). satsangamen jo- jo jIv sAdharmI hon,.. guruse to koI apUrva mArga prApta hotA hai. isaliye guru ho to gurukI vANI sunanI. svayamko mArga milatA hai. AtmAkI ruchi palaTatI hai ki yahI satya hai. AtmAmen hI koI apUrvatA anupamatA bharI hai. aisI gurukI vANIse antaramen shraddhA pragaT honekA, ruchi pragaT honekA kAraN banatA hai.

mumukShu- apaneAp tathya prApta ho sakatA hai? apaneAp mAlUm paDe ki yahI AtmAkA svarUp hai?

samAdhAna- hAn, mAlUm paDe. parantu jo mahApuruSh kah gaye hain, usake sAth svayam milAn kare, vichAr kare. apaneAp mAlUm paD sakatA hai. svayam svatantra AtmA hai, kahIn parAdhIn nahIn hai. koI use karavA nahIn detA. apaneAp mAlUm paDatA hai. parIkShA


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karake svayamko nakkI karanA hai. satpuruShako pahichAnanA ho to svayam hI nakkI karanA hai.

jise satakI ruchi jAgRut huyI, us ruchivAleke hRudayake netra hI aise ho jAte hain ki vah satpuruShako pahichAn letA hai ki ye satpuruSh hai. is prakAr usake hRudayake netra hI nirmal ho jAte hain.

vaise svayam apaneAp AtmAkA svabhAv nishchit kar sakatA hai ki yah merA svabhAv hai aur yah main nahIn hUn. koI apUrvatA meremen bharI hai, aisA svayam nakkI kar sakatA hai. aisA koI AtmAkA nakkI karanekA svabhAv hai.

mumukShu- jise AtmAkI anubhUti hotI hai, aur ham sAmAnya manuShya ho aur jise AtmAkI anubhUti huyI ho, unake jIvanamen kyA pharka paDatA hai?

samAdhAna- unakA jIvan bAharase dekhanA bahut mushkil hai. antaramen use AtmA bhinna hI rahatA ho. jo antaramen vikalpa hote hain, usase bhinna, usakA AtmA bhinna (rahatA hai). use ekatvabuddhi nahIn hotI. sharIrake sAth, vikalpake sAth ekatvabuddhi (nahIn hotI). usakA AtmA bhinna hI (rahatA hai). use kShaN-kShaNamen main jAnanevAlA gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn, aisI usakI sahaj dhArA chalatI ho. gnAyakakI dhArA. aur koI bAr use vikalpa TUTakar svAnubhUti (hotI hai). AtmAmen aisA ekAgra ho jAy ki bAharamen kyA ho rahA hai, vah use mAlUm nahIn paDe. vah AtmAmen aisA lIn ho jAtA hai aur aisA anupam Ananda use AtA hai ki jagatamen koI vastumen aisA Ananda nahIn hai. aisA anupam Ananda use pragaT hotA hai.

usakA AtmA bhinna hI bhinna antaramen kAm karatA hai. use bhedagnAnakI dhArA rahatI hai. lekin vah usake bolanemen, usake parichayase khyAlamen AtA hai ki antaramen inakA hRuday bhinna hai. usakI dRuShTi koI alag kAm karatI hai, usakI pariNati koI alag kAm karatI hai.

AtmAkI anubhUti koI jagatamen jAn na sake, aisA anupam AtmA hai, usakI anubhUti use hotI hai. aisI shAnti aur Ananda. AkulatAse chhUTakar aisA gnAn aur aisA Ananda (anubhavamen AtA hai). ananta guNonse bharA, ananta shaktiyonse bharA aisA chaitanyadev virAjatA hai, usakI use anubhUti hotI hai.

mumukShu- Ap kahate ho na ki vAnchan aur koI gnAnIpuruShako sunanA. aise barason bIt jAte hain. jahAn koI mile vahAn sunane jAte hain. yahAn bahinashrI achchhA bolatI hain to yahAn chalate hain. lekin merA aisA anubhav hai ki aise sunanese sirpha jAnane milatA hai.

samAdhAna- ruchi hI nahIn lagI hai, isaliye aisA ho jAtA hai. kharI ruchi aur shraddhA nahIn hai ki antaramen hI sabakuchh hai. utanI shraddhA nahIn hai. isaliye vApas muD


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jAtA hai. apane puruShArthakI kShati hai. antaramen koI apUrvatA bharI hai. AtmAmen koI anupamatA bharI hai, vah pragaT karane jaisA hai. ye sab nisAr hai, sArabhUt nahIn hai. vibhAvake sAth ekatvabuddhi karane jaisI nahIn hai. utanI jo antaramen svayamkI ruchi honI chAhiye, us ruchikI kShati hai. isaliye vah vApas A jAtA hai. vApas AnekA kAraN apanA hI hai. kuchh paDhe, vichAr kare, parichay kare to bhI koI pharka na paDe to apanI hI kShati hai.

yathArtha ruchi jise antarase ho ki AtmAmen koI apUrvatA bharI hI hai aur yah nishchit hai, itanA yadi vishvAs ho to use dev-guru-shAstra jo kahate hain, sachche dev, sachche guru... gurune aisI sAdhanA pragaT kI, bhagavAnane aisI pUrNatA pragaT kI, aise AtmAko prApta kiyA. un par use koI apUrva mahimA Aye. AchAyAne shAstramen (aisA kahA hai), use koI apUrva mahimA un par AtI hai. apane svabhAvakI mahimA Aye. isaliye usake jIvanamen amuk prakArase parivartan to usakI ruchike kAraN ho hI jAtA hai, nahIn honekA kAraN apanI ruchikI kShati aur apane vishvAsakI kShati hai. use bAharakA vishvAs AyA hai, parantu antarakA vishvAs hI nahIn AyA hai. isaliye vah palaT jAtA hai.

bhale use svAnubhUti honemen der lage, lekin antaramen yathArtha ruchi jAgRut ho ki karanA to yahI hai, to usakA jIvan palaT jAy, to use kahIn chain nahIn paDatA. use koI laukik kAyAmen khaDA ho to bhI mujhe kuchh alag hI karanekA hai, mujhe antaramen jAnA hai, isamen mujhe kahIn nahIn ras nahIn hai. use ras nahIn lagatA hai, use AtmAmen ras lage, AtmAkI bAtommen ras lage, aise gnAnIpuruShonko dekhakar use ras lage. aisA sab use AtmAkI ruchi palaTe to use har jagah ras lage. AtmA-orakI bAtommen ras lage, dUsarI sab bAten use rasayukta nahIn lagatI. is prakAr use jIvanamen parivartan ho jAtA hai.

mumukShu- .. ruchi kaise ho?

samAdhAna- ruchi, andar yathArtha vishvAs karanA ki isImen sabakuchh hai, kahIn aur nahIn hai. itanA svayam vishvAs karake nakkI kare to parivartan hotA hai.

mumukShu- buddhise samajhakar ruchi utpanna ho, aisA nahIn parantu jise aisA kahen ki turanta ekadam utpanna ho jAy, bechain kar de, kahIn chain na paDe, aisI tIvratA kaise ho?

samAdhAna- antarase svayamko puruShArtha karanA paDatA hai. vAstavamen isamen kuchh nahIn hai, ye nisAr hI hai, aisI taiyArI svayamko hI karanI paDatI hai, koI kar nahIn detA. yadi koI kar detA ho to svayam parAdhIn ho gayA. to koI kar de aur koI le le. parAdhIn nahIn hai, svayam svAdhIn hai. jagatamen rakhaDanA aur janma-maraN karanA apane


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hAthakI bAt hai, usase chhUTanA vah bhI apane hAthakI bAt hai. janma-maraN karanevAlA svayam svatantra aur mokSha karanevAlA bhI svayam svatantra hai. aisI svatantratA AtmAkI hai. apanI svatantratAse svayam palaTatA hai. usamen guru nimitta hote hain, dev nimitta hon, shAstra nimitta hon, parantu palaTanekA mUl kAraN to svayamkA hI hai. rakhaDanevAlA bhI svayam aur mokSha karanevAlA bhI svayam hI hai.

mumukShu- sab AtmAko sAkShAtkAr ho, aisA kuchh hai? athavA usamen bhI koI bhinna-bhinna star hogA?

samAdhAna- AtmAkA svabhAv to aisA hI hai ki Atma sAkShAtkAr kar sake.

mumukShu- kar sake, koI bhI AtmA kar sakatA hai.

samAdhAna- koI bhI AtmA kar sakatA hai. parantu usakA puruShArtha svayamko karanA paDatA hai.

mumukShu- usamen bhI koI bhUmikA hai ki yah pratham bhUmikA hai, dUsarI bhUmikA hai, ek usase UnchA hai. koI thoDe puruShArthase Upar A jAy, kisIko AjIvan, dUsare janmamen bhI puruShArtha karanA paDe?

samAdhAna- jisake puruShArthakI mandatA hotI hai vah lambe samay tak puruShArtha karatA rahe. thoDA-thoDA, thoDA-thoDA puruShArtha karatA rahe, ugratA na ho to lambe kAl tak chalatA hai. koI jIvako aisI ugratA ho jAy to kShaNamAtramen svayam palaT jAtA hai, to jaldI kare. jisakA puruShArtha dhIre-dhIre, dhIre-dhIre chalatA ho to lambA kAl chalatA rahe. aur ugratA Aye to turanta ho jAya.

mumukShu- nahIn, jaise hamAre dharmamen kahate hain ki karmakI thIyarI gine. Apake karma hI amuk prakArase khatma hote jAy, aise tumhe AtmAke sAth...?

samAdhAna- nahIn. karma hai na vah karma to mAtra nimitta hai. karmake kAraN jIv rakhaDatA hai (aisA nahIn hai).

mumukShu- to phir apanemen ek gharakI do bahanen hon, unakA byAh huA ho, ek hI gharamen baDI huI hain, to koI ek sAdhAraN gharamen jAtI hai, ek baDe gharamen jAtI hai, to vah usake karma anusAr hai?

samAdhAna- vah karma anusAr hai. vah to puNya-pApakA kAraN hai. puNya-pApakA kAraN hai. pUrvamen svayamne...

mumukShu- usI tarah AtmAko bhI DigrI anusAr koI pharka hotA hogA na?

samAdhAna- bAhya sanyog prApta honA vah sab puNya-pApakA kAraN hai. lekin andar AtmAkA parivartan karanA vah apane puruShArthakI bAt hai.


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mumukShu- vahI kahatI hUn ki puruShArtha aur karma. hamAremen puruShArtha aur karma dononko karIb ek sthAnamen rakhate hain ki Apane Apake karma kaise bAndhate ho aur kaise chhoDate ho, us par Apake AtmAkI unnati ginI jAtI hai.

samAdhAna- bAhya sanyog prApta karanA, paise milanA, ye milanA, dUsarA sab milanA vah puNya-pApake kAraN hai. parantu andaramen jo rAg-dveSh hote hain, sankalpa-vikalpa (hote hain), vah karma nahIn karavAte. yadi karma hI karavAte hon... usamen karma nimitta hai. yadi rAg-dveSh karma kare aisA ho to svayam parAdhIn ho gayA. to kisIko ham aisA nahIn kah sakate ki tU rAg mat karanA, tU dveSh mat karanA. to upadesh kaise diyA jAy ki tU aise doSh mat kara. tU yahAnse vApas muD jA, tU aisA mat kara. aisA kyon kahanemen AtA hai? ki svayam kar sakatA hai aur vApas muDatA hai. isaliye puruShArthamen svayam svatantra hai. usamen svayamke jo pariNAm hote hain, vah pariNAm badalanamen svayam svatantra hai. usamen karma nimitta hai. parantu pariNAm kaise badalanA vah apane hAthakI bAt hai.

parantu bAhya uday jo Aye, sharIramen rog AyA, koI ashAtA vedanIy AyI, dhan mile, na mile, vah sab svayam badal nahIn sakatA. kisIko achchhA dhandhA mile, kisIko na mile, vah sab svayam badal nahIn sakatA. parantu apane bhAvako svayam badal sakatA hai. rAg-dveSh kitanA karanA aur kaise karanA, vah svayam badal sakatA hai. rAg-dveShako jaise badal sakatA hai ki svayam shAnti rakhanI, chAhe jaise sanyog Aye to AkulatA nahIn karanI, khed nahIn karanA, vah jaise badal sakatA hai, vaise svayam apane svabhAvako pahichAnanA, parase bhinnatA karanI, AtmAmen jAnA, vah sab svatantrarUpase svayam kar sakatA hai. bhAv badal sakatA hai. parantu bAharakI nahIn kar sakatA. bAharakA sab puNyAdhIn hai. lekin rAg-dveSh palaTakar antaramen jAnA, vah (karanemen) svayam svAdhIn hai.

yadi rAg-dveSh bhI palaT na sake to-to jIv ekadam parAdhIn ho gayA. rAg karma karAve, dveSh karma karAve, ab main kyA karun? mujhase kuchh nahIn ho sakatA. to upadesh vyartha jAtA hai. AchArya aisA kahate hain, tU rAg-dveSh mat kar, tU vikalpa mat kar, tU shAnti rakha. vah sab upadesh vyartha hai. svayam badal sakatA hai, shAnti rakh sakatA hai. karma hI karavAtA ho to upadesh kyon? isaliye karma apane bhAvako nahIn kar sakatA. rAg-dveShamen svayam juDatA hai aur badalatA bhI svayam hai. vah apane hAthakI bAt hai. svabhAvako pahichAnanA, usakA puruShArtha karanA usake liye AtmA svatantra hai.

mumukShu- matalab karmakA bandhan AtmAko us jAtakA hai hI nahIn?

samAdhAna- karmakA bandhan to hai, bandhan hai. use karmakA bandhan, ATh prakArake karma jIvako bandhate hain. gnAnako rokanevAle, darshanako rokanevAle, mohanIyamen nimitta ho,


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mohamen nimitta ho, ye rog Aye, paise mile aise ATh prakArake karma hain. parantu vah apane bhAvako nahIn badalate. apane bhAv jo rAg-dveSh ho, usamen nimitta hain. lekin bhAv karatA hai svayam. puruShArthase badal sakatA hai. utanA jIv usamen svatantra hai.

mumukShu- ho sake tab tak karma nahIn bAndhanA aisA jo kahate hain, vah vastu...?

samAdhAna- hAn, karmakA bandhan jab tak svayam rAg aur dveSh, kaShAy hote hain, tab tak karmakA bandhan khaDA hI hai.

mumukShu- utanA apane AtmAko sAkShAt karanemen samay lagatA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, bIchamen samay lagatA hai. jab tak usamen rukA hai, tab tak samay lagatA hai. isIliye guru aur AchArya kahate hain ki tU puruShArtha karake terI or jA, tU usakA bhedagnAn kara. ye rAg terA svarUp nahIn hai, ye dveSh terA svarUp nahIn hai. tU usase bhinna hai. tU jAnanevAlA hai. usakA tU gnAtA ho jA, sAkShI ho jA. vah terA svarUp nahIn hai. tu puruShArtha kara. isaliye usake jo vikalpa hain, vah shAnta hote hain. usakA bhedagnAn karake Age baDhe. abhI chhUT nahIn sakate. pahale usase bhedagnAn karatA hai, svabhAv pahichAnatA hai ki yah merA svabhAv hai aur ye sab kaShAy-krodh, mAnAdi vah bhinna hain. main unase bhinna hUn. aise bhedagnAn karatA hai.

phir dhIre-dhIre puruShArtha karatA huA, usamen lInatA karate-karate svAnubhUtikI ugratA karatA hai. ata dhIre-dhIre pahale to use samyagdarshan hotA hai. phir use munidashA AtI hai. svAnubhUti baDhatI hai isaliye munidashA AtI hai. gharabAr chhoDakar akele AtmAmen rahatA hai. kShaN-kShaNamen AtmAkI svAnubhUtimen rahatA hai. aisA karate-karate jab use kevalagnAn hotA hai tab pUrNatA hotI hai. phir sarva kamAkA kShay ho jAtA hai, vItarAgI dashA hotI hai.

lekin abhI gRuhasthAshramamen to vah bhedagnAn karatA hai. ye jo kaShAy hain, vah merA svarUp nahIn hai. main usase bhinna chaitanya hUn. main nirmal svabhAvI shuddhAtmA hUn. aisA karake svayam apanA gnAn karake us or jhukatA hai.

mumukShu- sansAramen rahakar is prakArakA Atma sAkShAtkAr athavA is orakI mehanat ho sakatI hai?

samAdhAna- hAn, ho sakatI hai.

mumukShu- usake liye ye sab chhoDanA chAhiye?

samAdhAna- nahIn, bAharakA chhoDanA chAhiye, aisA nahIn hai. bAharakA kab chhUT jAy? ki jab use munidashA AtI hai na, yathArtha munidashA Aye tab chhUT jAya. pahale use yathArtha gnAn ho, AtmAko pahichAne, usamen ekAgratA ho, vah sab gRuhasthAshramamen ho sakatA hai. usakI ruchi badal sakatA hai. bhAv palaTanA apane hAthakI bAt hai. bAharakA gRuhasthAshram


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ho to bhI antarakI ruchi badal denI ki ye jo rAg aur dveSh aur anek jAtake jo vikalpa Ate hain, vah AkulatA merA svarUp nahIn hai, main usase bhinna hUn. aise gRuhasthAshramamen itanA karake apane svabhAvako pahichAne. main yah chaitanya hUn, isamen Ananda hai, isamen nahIn hai. usakA bhedagnAn karake vikalpa toDakar svAnubhUti kar sake aisA gRuhasthAshramamen kar sakatA hai.

phir svAnubhUti baDhate-baDhate use tyAg ho jAtA hai. svAnubhUti gRuhasthAshramamen kar sakatA hai. antarase nyArA ho jAtA hai. chakravartI the to gRuhasthAshramamen rahakar AtmAkI svAnubhUti karate the. kShaNamAtra AtmAkA dhyAn ho jAy aisA gRuhasthAshramamen usako ho sakatA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!