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mumukShu- .. ham Aye the, sab pUrvajanmakI bAten karate the. Apako Apake pUrvajanmakI anubhUti ho, aise to hamen koI mile hI nahIn. pAnch miniT jyAdA dekar us par koI prakAsh kar sako to.. pUrva janma hai, vishvAs hai.

samAdhAna- pUrvajanma to hai. yah jIv kahInse AtA to hai. koI rAjA hotA hai, koI rank hotA hai, koI rAjAke ghar janma le, koI rankake ghar janma le. usakA koI kAraN hai. kudarat aisI koI anyAyavAlI nahIn hotI ki kisIkA rAjAke ghar janma ho, koI rankake ghar, koI rogI ho, koI nirogI ho, aise sab jo pheraphAr hote hain, usamen sAbit hotA hai ki yah jIv pUrvamen thA aur vahAnse AyA hai. isaliye usake pUrvakarmake pheraphArake kAraN yah sab pheraphAr hain.

jIv pUrvajanmamen anek jAtake janma-maraN karate-karate AyA hai. vah to nishchay hai ki vah janma-maraN karate-karate AyA hai. bAkI vyaktigat bAt to kyA kahanI? pUrvamen jIv thA aur vahInse AyA hai. pUrva bhavamen anek bhav karate AyA hai. devamen- se Aye, manuShyamen-se Aye, anek bhavamen-se jIv AtA hai. jaise usake bhAv hon, puNya-pApake pariNAm kare us anusAr AtA hai.

usamen abhI yah kShetra to bharatakShetramen to abhI thoDA dharmakA (prachAr huA). hamAre yahAn gurudev virAjate the, unake pratApase itanA dharmakA prachAr ho rahA hai. unhonne sab mArga batAyA hai. bAkI mahAvideh kShetra hai vahAn to hameshA dharma chalatA hai. vahAn to sAkShAt bhagavAn virAjate hain. is jagatake Upar mahAvideh kShetra hai, vahAn sAkShAt bhagavAn virAjate hain, unakI nirantar vANI chhUTatI hai. vANI sunakar kitane hI jIv samyagdarshan, svAnubhUti, koI munidashAko prApta karate hain.

sAkShAt bhagavAna. ek mahAvideh kShetra hai, vahAn sAkShAt bhagavAn virAjate hain. kevalagnAnapane pUrNa dashAmen virAjate hain. is bharatakShetramen to bahut mushkil ho gayA hai. santa puruShonkI durlabhatA (ho gayI). ek gurudev is panchamakAlamen virAjate the, kitanonko unake kAraN mArga milA.

mumukShu- Ap shrImad rAjachandra par kuchh prakAsh DAl sakate ho? kyonki unako

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main guru mAnatI hUn aur mujhe un par bahut prem AtA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, ve samyagdRuShTi svAnubhUtiko prApta hue the. bachapanase hI ve vairAgI the. unakI vichArashakti ekadam tIvra thI. unakA gnAn kaisA thA! ve gRuhasthAshramamen rahate the phir bhI bhinna hI rahate the. svAnubhUti gRuhasthAshramamen pragaT huyI thI. ve to bhinna rahate the. Atmaras chakhA, hariras kaho, hamen kaun pahachAn sakegA? aisA sab likhate hain. AtmAkI svAnubhUti unhen pragaT huyI thI.

mumukShu- yahAnse mahAvideh kShetramen jA sakate hain?

samAdhAna- nahIn jA sakate. mahAvideh kShetra (jAnemen) kitane parvat, pahAD bIchamen Ate hain. vartamAnake jIv jA nahIn sakate.

mumukShu- is kAlamen nahIn jA sakate.

samAdhAna- abhI nahIn. bahut sAl pahale ek AchArya hue the-kundakundAchArya. jinake shAstra abhI svAnubhUti pragaT ho aise unake shAstra hain. mUl mArga batAte hain. unake shAstra par gurudevane pravachan kiye hain. ve kundakundAchArya the vah bahut sAl pahale mahAvidehamen AchArya gaye the. AchAryako dhyAnake andar bhagavAnakI vedanA huyI ki are..! bhagavAnake darshan nahIn hai. isaliye koI labdhise yA koI devonne Akar unhen mahAvideh kShetramen le gaye the. vahAn ATh din rahe the. bhagavAnakI vANI sunI, aise koI mahAsamartha munishvar hon, ve kundakundAchArya the ve jA sake the. kitane hajAr varSha pahale. hamane yahAn sab paDhA huA hai.

samAdhAna- .. vibhAvamen sukh na lage ... AtmAmen hI sukh lage. ye vikalpa arthAt sab vibhAv, vikalpa, sankalpa-vikalpa usamen use shAnti na lage, use dukh lage. shAnti na lage. ye kyA? ye sab vibhAv hai vah to AkulatArUp aur dukharUp hI hai. dukh lage, shAnti na lage. shAnti AtmAmen hI hai. aisI pratIti ho, phir usamen ugratA ho (to svAnubhUti hotI hai). svayamkI ruchi ho isaliye vibhAvase vApas muD jAtA hai. yah mujhe dukh hai, dukh hai, aisA vikalpa nahIn Aye, lekin usamen use AkulatA lage, kahIn shAnti na lage. shAnti AtmAmen hai, ruchi AtmAkI or jAya. usamen Tik na sake.

apanI or ruchi jAy isaliye vikalpa-or, vibhAvakI or, sab jAtake, usamen shAnti to lage hI nahIn, ashAnti lage. usakA ugra rUp ho isaliye use jyAdA lage, isaliye AtmAkI or hI usakI pariNati dauDe. AtmAkI or dauDe isaliye vikalpa chhUTakar svayam svarUpamen lIn ho jAya. svarUpakI lInatA ho isaliye vikalpa chhUT jAya.

mArga to ek hI hai. shubh pariNAm yA koI vikalpamen use shAnti yA sukh na

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lage. usakI pratIt nahIn, phir asthiratAmen amuk prakArase rahe, lekin usakI pratItamen to aisA hI hotA hai ki yah sukh nahIn hai, ye to AkulatA hai. yah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. pratIt to aisI (hotI hai). pratItake sAth amuk prakArase use lage ki yah sukh nahIn hai, AkulatA hai.

mumukShu- yadi aisA na ho to mArga mile, nahIn mile aisA koI sambandha hai?

samAdhAna- hAn. usamen use ruchi lage, vibhAvamen achchhA lage to use AtmA- orakI ruchi nahIn hai aur vibhAvakI ruchi hai. aisA usakA artha hai. jIv ananta kAlase kahIn na kahIn aTakA hai. munipanA liyA yA kuchh bhI kiyA, to bhI gaharAImen kahIn shubhabhAvamen ruchi rah jAtI hai. ruchi koI shubhamen aTak jAtI hai. isaliye apanI or svayam jAtA nahIn aur AtmAkI nirvikalpa dashAko prApta nahIn kar sakatA. vah kahIn par aTak jAtA hai. gaharAImen mIThAs lagatI hai isaliye.

shubhabhAvamen, shubhake phalamen, kahIn bhI andar gaharAImen shubhamen ruk jAtA hai. use ruchi lagatI hai, usamen aTakanA ThIk lagatA hai. apanI or jAnekI jo ruchi honI chAhiye vah hotI nahIn. mArga to ek hI hai. usakI or ruchi laganI hI nahIn chAhiye. phir ugra yA manda vah alag bAt hai, lekin usakI pratItamen to aisA bal A jAy ki ruchi na lage. use ruchi apanI or jAya.

mumukShu- chalate pariNamanamen vedanamen dukh lage?

samAdhAna- hAn, use vedanamen bhI dukh lagatA hai. pratIt aisI huyI hai, isaliye vedanamen amuk prakArase to lage. kitanI ugratAse lage vah usake puruShArthakI ugratA anusAr (lagatA hai). parantu amuk prakArase to use lagatA hai. pratItake sAth use aisA bal hotA hai ki isamen kahIn sukh nahIn hai. aisA to use lagatA hai. jo shAnti chAhiye vah isamen kahIn nahIn hai. yah sab ashAnta hai. antaramen to aisI use ek jAtakI khaTak andar ho jAy ki isamen kahIn shAnti nahIn hai, shAnti antaramen hai.

mumukShu- bAt to sunate hain, phir bhI vedanamen dukh nahIn lagatA hai, isakA kyA kAraN hai?

samAdhAna- vedanamen nahIn lagatA hai to abhI andaramen kahIn ekatvabuddhi hai na isaliye. ekatvabuddhi hai isaliye. yathArtha pratIti ho to antaramen use lage binA rahe nahIn. pariNati bhinna paDakar ho to. use Upar-Uparase hotA hai isIliye vah, kuchh karun, kuchh yah karun, AtmAmense kuchh pragaT ho, aisA use Upar-Uparase to hotA hai ki ye koI sukh nahIn hai.

antaramense jo honA chAhiye, ekatvabuddhi TUTakar antaramense nahIn hotA hai. use pakaDamen

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nahIn AtA hai ki isamen dukh hai, kahAn kahIn sukh hai. kuchh karanA to chAhatA hai ki kuchh karun. yah koI sukh nahIn hai. aisA apragaTarUpase to hotA hai. ye koI sukh nahIn hai. kahAn sukh hai aur kahAn nahIn hai, yah mAlUm nahIn. parantu yathArtha pratIti ho to use andar lage binA rahe nahIn. ye sab dukh hai aur sukh antaramen hai.

mumukShu- vaise to pakaDamen hI nahIn AtA.

samAdhAna- use pakaDame nahIn AtA. sukh prApta karanekA prayatna karatA hai. sukh yahAnse lUn, yahAnse lUn, yahAnse lUn. antaramen pakaDamen nahIn AtA, sukh kahAn hai aur dukh kahAn hai.

mumukShu- pratham bhedagnAn dehAdise karanA yA rAgAdise karanA?

samAdhAna- sachchA bhedagnAn to antaramense jo rAgAdise hotA hai vah sachchA bhedagnAn hai. parantu usamen kramamen aisA Aye ki pahale sharIrase bhedagnAn aur bAdamen rAgAdise bhedagnAna. lekin vah donon ekasAth hI hotA hai. vAstavik bhedagnAn usIkA nAm ki rAgAdise bhedagnAn ho. is sharIrase bhedagnAn ho vah to sthUl hai, andar rAgAdise ho vahI vAstavamen sachchA bhedagnAn hai.

lekin abhI sthUlatAse bhI nahIn huA to rAgAdise kahAn-se hogA? isaliye pahale sthUlatAse karavAte hain. yah sharIr to use dikhatA hai, sharIrake sAth ekatvabuddhi hai ki sharIr main hUn. sharIrake sAth ekamek ho rahA hai. sharIrase to main bhinna hUn. yah to jaD hai. vah to kuchh jAnatA nahIn, isaliye pahale usase bhinna paDe.

mumukShu- vichAramen lenA AsAn paDe.

samAdhAna- vichAramen letA hai. sharIrase bhinna paDatA hai, bAdamen rAgAdise bhinnatA karatA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! rAgAdise bhinna paDanekA prayog kyA? kyonki anubhav huA nahIn hai, to anubhav kaise ho? vah kaisA svAdavAlA hai, rAg to AkulatArUp hai, usakA to khyAl AtA hai, parantu vah to kabhI svAdamen AyA nahIn. to un dononkI sandhi kaise (mAlUm paDe)?

samAdhAna- usake gnAnasvabhAvako pahichAnanA. gnAnasvabhAv to khyAlamen Aye aisA hai. gnAnasvabhAv hai vah shAntise bharA huA, gnAnAnanda svabhAv hai use lakShyamen lenA. AnandakA anubhav bhale nahIn hai, parantu use pratItamen lenA. vichAr karake pratItamen Aye aisA hai vah AtmA. gnAnasvabhAvase pratItamen lene jaisA hai.

gurudev batAte hain, shAstramen AtA hai. usake amuk lakShaNase pahichAnamen AtA hai. gnAnasvabhAv lakShaNase pahichAne. lakShaNase lakShyamen Aye aisA hai ki ye rAgAdi hai aur

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yah usakA jAnanevAlA lakShyamen Aye aisA hai. rAg rAgako jAnatA nahIn, jAnanevAlA andar bhinna hai. bhinna jAnanevAlA hai vah shAshvat hai. bhinna jAnanevAlA hai vah shAshvat hai. rAgakI sab paryAyen chalI jAtI hain aur jAnanevAlA jyonkA tyon hI khaDA rahatA hai. jyonkA tyon khaDe rahanevAlA hai vah main hUn.

bachapanase lekar abhI tak sab rAgAdi chale gaye aur jAnanevAlA khaDA hai. jo jAnanevAlA khaDA hai vah main hUn. jAnanevAleko bhinna kare. jo-jo rAg, vikalpa Aye use kShaN-kShaNamen bhinna kare. utanA usakA prayatna ho, bhedagnAnakA abhyAs ugra kare to kShaN-kShaNamen bhinna karanekA abhyAs ho. buddhise ek bAr bhinna kiyA aur phir aise hI rah jAy to abhI usake abhyAsakI kShati hai. kShaN-kShaNamen bhinna kare, usakA abhyAs vaise hI maujUd rakhe to use phir sahaj dashA honekA avasar Aye. pahale to gnAnase pratItamen AtA hai.

samAdhAna- .. yahAn gurudev virAje vah kuchh alag (hI thA). bAharagAmvase koI Aye to aisA kahate hain ki gurudev mAnon sAkShAt Akar vANI barasAte ho aisA lagatA hai. Ankh banda karake baiThe ho to aisA lagatA hai.

... puruShArthapUrvakakA kramabaddha hotA hai. kramabaddha ho, jo honevAlA hai vah ho, parantu andar jo apane bhAv badalanA, bhAvanA karanI, puruShArtha karanA, bhedagnAn karanA, samyagdarshan (pragaT karanA), vah sab puruShArthapUrvak kramabaddha hotA hai. kramabaddha yAnI jaise honevAlA hai vaise hogA, aise nahIn. puruShArtha sAthamen hotA hai, kramabaddhake sAth puruShArtha, svabhAv, kAl Adi sab ho, usake sAth puruShArtha hotA hai. vah kramabaddha puruShArthapUrvak hotA hai. jise puruShArtha lakShyamen nahIn hai, usakA kramabaddha aisA hI hotA hai. aur jise puruShArtha andar ruchatA hai usIkA kramabaddha mokSha-orakA hotA hai. mukti orakA kramabaddha usIkA hotA hai ki jise andar puruShArtha ruchatA hai. jise puruShArthakI or lakShya nahIn hai, use sansAr-orakA kramabaddha hai. parantu jisane usakI dRuShTi kI ki AtmA gnAyak hai. aisI puruShArthapUrvakakI jisakI dRuShTi hai, usIkA kramabaddha (yathArtha hai). puruShArthapUrvakakA kramabaddha, vah kramabaddha sachchA hai.

mumukShu- sAthamen puruShArtha karanA paDe.

samAdhAna- hAn, puruShArtha to sAthamen hI hotA hai. kramabaddhake sAth puruShArtha hotA hai. puruShArthapUrvak kramabaddha hotA hai. sab bhAv sAthamen hote hain. use amuk prakArakA kShayopasham hotA hai, use svabhAv Adi pAnch labdhiyAn AtI hain na? usamen sAthamen puruShArtha hotA hai. deshanAlabdhi hotI hai. andarase gurudevakI deshanA grahaN ho, puruShArtha, svabhAv Adi sab sAthamen hotA hai. vishuddhilabdhi. labdhi ho usamen puruShArtha sAthamen hai. akelA

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kramabaddha nahIn hai. kramabaddhake sAth puruShArtha hotA hai. .. kramabaddha hai, parantu andar apane bhAv palaTanA, usamen sAthamen puruShArtha hotA hai.

mumukShu- bAharamen kuchh bhI huA ho, andar samAdhAn ho jAy ki jis kAl nukasAn honevAlA thA yA jo honevAlA thA vah ho gayA.

samAdhAna- jo honevAlA ho vah hotA hai.

mumukShu- ab puna krodh karake naye karma bAndhanA, usake bajAy...

samAdhAna- jo hotA hai kramabaddha hotA hai.

mumukShu- dhyAn yAnI chintavana. khAs to yah pUchhanA thA ki dhyAn kaise karanA? bAr-bAr vahI prashna Akar khaDA rahatA hai. jitanA vikalponse dUr honA chAhiye, utanA huA nahIn jAtA. itane vikalpa Ate hain, jaisA hamArA jIvan hai us anusAra. pUrI proses ekadam shAntise.. aisA kahen ki kramase Age baDh sake vaise. dhIre-dhIre karake ham andar Utar sake. aur rAstA vahI hai, ye to khyAlamen hai ki dhyAnake sivA chhUTakArA nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- parantu pahale to bhedagnAn honA chAhiye na. bhedagnAn ho, yathArtha bhedagnAn ho bAdamen yathArtha dhyAn ho. ekAgratA kab ho? ki mUl vastuko pakaDe, grahaN kare ki main jAnanevAlA gnAyak hUn, main chaitanyadravya gnAyak hUn, usakA astitva antarase grahaN kare. Upar-Uparase buddhise grahaN kare, lekin andar usakI pariNatimense grahaN karanA chAhiye, usakA astitva grahaN kare. usakI shraddhA barAbar yathArtha antarase ho to usamen ekAgra ho. mUl vastuko grahaN kiye binA chitta kahAn sthir hogA? chitta to vikalpa.. vikalpa...

vastu jo sthir svarUp gnAyak svarUp vastu hai use grahaN kare to usamen sthir ho, to sthir ho. pahale main chaitanyavastu-ek padArtha hUn. jaise ye sab padArtha dikhate hain, vaise chaitanya bhI ek padArtha hai. usamen ananta guN aur ananta shaktiyAn bharI hain, aisA chaitanyapadArtha hai. us padArthako pahale grahaN kare to usamen dhyAn ho. isaliye pratham bhedagnAn kare, gnAn kare.

sharIrake sAth ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. sharIr so main aur main so sharIra. vikalpa so main aur main so vikalpa. usamen bhinna kaun hai? us bhinnakA astitva kahIn dikhAI nahIn detA. ata bhinna astitvako pahale grahaN karanA chAhiye. usakI buddhimen yathArtha grahaN kare to yathArtha dhyAn ho. isaliye pahale bhedagnAn karanekI jarUrat hai ki kShaN- kShaNamen jo vikalpa Ate hain, vah vikalpa merA svarUp nahIn hai. merA svarUp to jAnanevAlA, andar jo jAnanevAlAkA astitva hai vah main hUn. us jAnanevAlAkA astitva grahaN

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karaneke bAd usamen dhyAn ho.

usakI yathArtha ruchi ho to vah grahaN hotA hai. ruchi bAhar ho, bAharakI mahimA lage (to dhyAn ho nahIn sakatA). andar chaitanyamen mahimA lage ki chaitanya hI sarvasva hai. aur kuchh sArabhUt nahIn hai. aise andar yathArtha grahaN kare to hI usamen dhyAn ho. vastukA svarUp hI aisA hai.

pAnI svayam svabhAvase nirmal hai. use kIchaDake kAraN malinatA huI. usamen auShadhi DAle to usakI nirmalatA bhinna paDe aur vah kIchaD bhinna paD jAya. vaise svabhAvase AtmA nirmal hai. anAdise ek padArtha (hai). jo padArtha ho vah padArtha kahIn svayam svabhAvase malin nahIn hotA. lekin usamen malinatA kIchaDake kAraN arthAt vibhAvake kAraN AyI hai.

vaise usakI dRuShTi yathArtha (karanI chAhiye). jaise auShadhise pAnI nirmal hotA hai, vaise svayam gnAnarUp auShadhi dvArA apanA svabhAv jo nirmal hai, use nirmalatAko grahaN kare to usamense nirmalatA pragaT ho. use bhedagnAn karanA chAhiye. pahale yathArtha gnAn kare to yathArtha dhyAn ho.

mumukShu- bhedagnAn karanA chAhiye, parantu bhedagnAn karanA kaise?

samAdhAna- use pahale to yathArtha ruchi honI chAhiye, to bhedagnAn ho. usImen chalA jAtA hai, ananta kAlase vikalpamen hI chalA jAtA hai. parantu usakI ruchi yathArtha ho to bhedagnAn ho. usakA gnAn yathArtha karanA chAhiye. main kaun (hUn)? vastu AtmA anAdiananta (hai). main kaun hUn, merA kyA svabhAv hai, usakA svabhAv kyA hai, usamen jo anek jAtakI avasthAen hotI hain, vah kyA hai? use yathArtha samajhanA chAhiye. usakI ruchi yathArtha honI chAhiye. aisI lagan lage antaramense to bhedagnAn ho. rAt aur din use AtmAke alAvA kahIn chain na paDe. merA AtmA mujhe kaise pragaT ho? mujhe svAnubhUti- AtmAkA sAkShAtkAr kaise ho? aisI lagan andarase lage to bhedagnAn ho. usakI lagan laganI chAhiye.

phir to svabhAvamense svabhAv pragaT hotA hai. ye jo vikalpa hain vah to sab vibhAv hai. vibhAvamense svabhAv nahIn AtA hai, svabhAvamense svabhAv AtA hai. jaise lohemense lohA hI ho aur suvarNamense suvarNa hI ho. vaise chaitanyasvabhAvamense svabhAv pragaT ho. ye vibhAvamense to vibhAv hI pragaT hotA hai. isaliye apanA svabhAv grahaN kar lenA. aisI ruchi pragaT karanI chAhiye.

pahale aisI ruchi kare, usakA bhedagnAn kare kShaN-kShaNamen ki yah main nahIn hUn, merA chaitanyasvarUp bhinna hai. aise bArambAr kare to usamen ekAgratA hotI hai. nahIn to samajhe

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binAkA dhyAn to yathArtha jamatA hI nahIn. vikalpa (hone lage).

mumukShu- nInd A jAtI hai. dhyAn karane baiThe to nInd A jAtI hai. phir koI jagAye tab uThate hain. sachchI bAt hai.

samAdhAna- samajh binAkA dhyAn aisA (hI hotA hai). svayamko pahichAnA nahIn hai, sthir kahAn honA? vikalpa kam karane jAy to shUnyatA jaisA ho jAya. shUnyatAmen nidrA jaisA ho jAya. kyonki apanA padArtha grahaN nahIn kiyA hai. padArtha jo jAgRutasvarUp AtmA hai use grahaN kare to usamen dhyAn ho na. to usamen kuchh sukh dikhe, usamen kuchh gnAn dikhe, usamen kuchh apUrvatA dikhe to usamen vah sthir rahe. kuchh dikhAI na de aur vikalpa karane jAy to kyA ho? use nInd A jAtI hai. isaliye pahale yathArtha bhedagnAn karanA ki ye main bhinna (hUn). padArthako jAnanekA prayatna karanA.

bAharase karanese kuchh nahIn hotA. antarase karanese hI hotA hai. antaramense apanI ruchi palaTanI chAhiye aur use khojanekA prayatna kare. usake liye shAstramen kyA kahate hain? guru kyA kahate hain? vah sab bArambAr vichAranA. gurukA Ashay kyA hai? vah sab vichAranA chAhiye.