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samAdhAna- .. nirNay karanA paDe. kAnch kaun hai aur hIrA, ratna Adi kyA hai, usakI parIkShA karanI paDe. ... bAharamen to karatA hai, lekin antaramen karanA hai. AtmA kaun? use batAnevAle kaun? gurudevane koI apUrva svarUhap batAyA hai. aur AtmA bhI apUrva aur AtmA anupam hai. use pahichAnanekA prayatna karanA. manan, chintavan, usakI mahimA (karanI). puruShArthakI mandatAse utanI taiyArI na ho isaliye ye sab sAdhan dikhate hain, usamen ruchi ho jAtI hai. vahAn aise sAdhan nahIn hote na. bArambAr usIkA gholan karate rahanA. manuShyabhav milA, usamen aise guru milane is panchamakAlamen mahA mushkil hai. sachchA mArga batAnevAle. mArga gurudevane batAyA. antaramense svayam ruchi karake, nakkI karake puruShArtha karane yogya hai.

mumukShu- Ap andarakA sab jAnate ho. hamArA kalyAN ho..

samAdhAna- karanekA svayamko hai.

mumukShu- vah to hamako hI karanA hai. antar gnAnI ho na, isaliye ham kahAn hai, kyA hai, ... to hamen jarA... vahAn tak pahunche.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- mantra gurudevane ek hI diyA hai, gnAyakakA mantra hai. vah mantra bhI andar gnAyak gnAyakarUp pariName. ekatvabuddhi anAdikI hai. usakA abhyAs ekatvatAkA hai. use ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. use toDakar main gnAyakarUp hUn. gnAyakarUp pariNati pragaT karanI, vah apane hAthakI bAt hai. svayamko sharIrake sAth ekatva, vibhAvake sAth ekatva, har jagah ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. isaliye use pUre jIvanakA-pariNatikA palaTA karanA hai. pariNati dUsarI ho gayI hai. pUrA palaTA.

andar main gnAyakarUp hI hUn, usakA pUrA palaT jAnA chAhiye. main gnAyak hI hUn, anya kuchh nahIn hUn. meremen kuchh hai hI nahIn. main to akelA gnAyak, akelA gnAyak hUn. aisI pariNatikA pUrA palaTA, usakI dishAkA palaTA, usakI dRuShkiA palaTA. usake pUrA Antarik jIvanakA palaTA ho, vah use puruShArthase hotA hai. pUrA palaTA.. abhI to dRuShTi, gnAn aur amuk prakArase usakI pariNatikA palaTA ho. Age to abhI svAnubhUti

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to dUr rahI, parantu abhI to use pUrI dRuShTikA palaTA karanA hai. vah palaTA karaneke liye use utanA abhyAs karanekA hai. pUrI dRuShTi bAhar hai. usakA pUrA palaTA svayamko karanekA hai. pUrI dishA badalanI hai, dRuShTi palaTanI hai. vah dRuShTi palaTe to andarase pariNati pragaT ho.

mumukShu- puruShArtha karanA yAnI vAnchan jyAdA karanA yA manan karanA?

samAdhAna- vAnchan, vichAr Adi sab karanA, lekin ek chaitanya-orakI dRuShTi pragaT karanI. antarakI dishA palaTaneke liye. hetu-dhyey vah honA chAhiye. (jab tak) vah ho nahIn, vah pariNati tadagatarUp, us rUp tadAkAr pariNati na ho tab tak vAnchan, vichAr Adi sab vahI karanA hotA hai. vichAramen Tike nahIn to vAnchan kare, vAnchanamense phir vichAr kare. jahAn pariNati usakI sthir ho, vah karatA rahe. parantu karanekA ek hI hai-usakI dRuShTi palaTanI hai. andarakI dishA palaTanI hai.

mumukShu- dishA to palaTatI ho aisA dikhAI nahIn detA. pIchhe paDe hain..

samAdhAna- usake pIchhe lage rahanA, usake pIchhe paDate rahanA. jab tak na ho tab tak ek hI karanA hai. to hI andarase ... ye to anAdikA abhyAs hai. jise palaTatA hai use antarmuhUrtamen palaTatA hai, na palaTe use der lagatI hai. gurudevane mArga batAyA. kitane hI logonko to mArga hI hAthamen nahIn AtA. ye to gurudevane mArga batAyA hai. ye sharIr tU nahIn hai, vibhAv tU nahIn hai, guNake bhed, paryAyake bhedamen rukanA nahIn. dRuShTi akhaNDa par karanI. gurudevane mArga kitanA spaShTa kar diyA hai. parako tU kar nahIn sakatA. kartA, kriyA, karmake bhedase bhI vah parako karatA nahIn. tU tere svabhAvakA kartA hai. kitane prakArase spaShTa karake batAyA hai. svayam antarase bhIganA vah bhI apane hAthakI bAt hai. sab apane hAthakI bAt hai. gurudevane to mArga batAyA hai.

samAdhAna- .. samyagdarshan prApta karanekA, bhedagnAn karanA vah usakA upAy hai. bArambAr bhedagnAna. AtmA-orakI ruchi ho, usakI mahimA ho, usakI mahimA visheSh karanI, usakA bhedagnAn karanA vah usakA upAy hai. ye sharIr main nahIn hUn. AtmA chaitanyatattva antar bhinna hai. vibhAvik paryAy jo sankalpa-vikalpa vah bhI AtmAkA svarUp nahIn hai. AtmA bhinna hai.

paradravya jo hai usakA utpAd-vyay-dhruv (bhinna hai). AtmA utpAd-vyay-dhruvasvarUpase bhinna hai. antaramen use pahichAnanA, bArambAr use pahichAnanekA prayAs karanA. main chaitanyatattva hUn. meremen gnAn hai, meremen Ananda hai. ananta guNase bharA main AtmA hUn. bArambAr usakA abhyAs karanese vah pragaT hotA hai. vah ho nahIn to bhI bArambAr usakA abhyAs karanese vah pragaT hotA hai.

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jaise chaneke sekanese usakA svAd pragaT hotA hai. vaise bArambAr usakA prayAs karanese pragaT hotA hai. isaliye bArambAr usakA abhyAs karate rahanA. to pragaT hotA hai. pAnI svabhAvase nirmal hai. kIchaDase malin huA. to usamen auShadhi DAlanese vah nirmal hotA hai. vaise AtmAkA bhedagnAn (karanese hotA hai).

AtmA to anAdiananta svabhAvase dravya svarUpase nirmal hI hai. parantu malinatA vibhAvake kAraN ho gayI hai. isaliye jo vibhAvaparyAy hotI hai, vah vibhAv bhI AtmAkA svabhAv nahIn hai. usakA svabhAv chaitanyakA bhinna grahaN karanA. AtmA gnAyak svabhAv hai, usamen Ananda hai. Adi ananta guNonse bharA AtmA hai. us or dRuShTi karanI, usakI pratIt karanI, usamen lInatA karanese vah pragaT hotA hai.

jo jisamen ho usamense AtA hai. suvarNamense suvarNa paryAy hI hotI hai. vaise AtmAmense AtmA hI pragaT hotA hai. vibhAvamense vibhAv hotA hai. anAdi kAlase shubhAshubh bhAvonkI paryAy kare to usamense janma-maraN utpanna hote hain. AtmAkI shuddha nirmal paryAy pragaT karanese usamense shuddhatA hI utpanna hotI hai. isaliye bArambAr usakA abhyAs karanese pragaT hotA hai.

main chaitanya hUn, ye vikalpa merA svarUp nahIn hai. aise bArambAr tadarUp pariNati karanese, usamen lIn honese nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai aur svAnubhUti hotI hai. aur usakA bArambAr abhyAs karanese chaitanya jaisA hai vah pUrNa svabhAvase pragaT hotA hai. vah karane jaisA hai. vahI janma-maraN TAlanekA upAy hai aur vah gurudevane batAyA hai. apUrva upakAr kiyA hai. AtmAkI apUrvatA gurudevane batAyI hai. use grahaN karane jaisA hai.

AtmA anAdiananta gnAyak svarUp hai. usamen koI bhedake vikalpa yA AtmAmen ananta guN hain, parantu vah bhed svarUp nahIn hai. usake bhedake vikalpase bhI lakShya dUr karake ek abhed par dRuShTi karane jaisI hai. gnAnamen sab lenA, lekin dRuShTi ek AtmA par karanese (pragaT hotA hai).

jaise pAnImen kamal bhinna nirlep rahatA hai. vaise AtmA nirlep svabhAvI pragaT hotA hai. pragaT hotA hai tab vah nirlep svarUp hai na, nirlepatA pragaT kar sakatA hai. puruShArtha karanese pragaT hotA hai. vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai aur vahI jIvanamen karane jaisA hai. AtmA shAshvat hai aur usamense paryAyen pragaT hotI hai, vah karane jaisA hai.

svayam hI hai. AtmA jAnanevAlA svayam hI hai. sharIrase bhinna AtmA (hai). sharIrake andar svayam bhinna hai. sharIr kuchh jAnatA nahIn hai. andar jAnanevAlA hai vah AtmA hai. jo jAnatA rahatA hai andar vah jAnanevAlA AtmA hai. usamen Ananda aur gnAn sab AtmAmen hai. ye sharIr kuchh nahIn jAnatA. andar jAnanevAlA AtmA bhinna hai.

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chattArI mangalan, arihantA mangalan, sAhU mangalan, kevalipaNatto dhammo mangalan. chattArI loguttamA, arihantA loguttamA, siddhA loguttamA, sAhU loguttamA, kevalipaNatto dhammo loguttamA.

chattArI sharaNan pavajjAmi, arihantA sharaNan pavajjAmi, siddhA sharaNan pavajjAmi, kevalI paNatto dhammo sharaNan pavajjAmi.

chAr sharaN, chAr mangal, chAr uttam kare je, bhavasAgarathI tare te sakaL karmano ANe anta. mokSha taNA sukh le anant, bhAv dharIne je guN gAye, te jIv tarIne muktie jAya. sansAramAnhI sharaN chAr, avar sharaN nahIn koI. je nar-nArI Adare tene akShay avichal pad hoya. angUThe amRut varase labdhi taNA bhaNDAra. guru gautamane samarIe to sadAy manavAnchhit phal dAtA.

mumukShu- main to paripUrNa dravyako pakaDakar baiThA hUn. aisA usamen AtA hai.

samAdhAna- dravyako grahaN kiyA hai, pakaDakar baiThA hai usakA artha yah hai. jo pUrNa svabhAv dravya anAdiananta pUrNa bharA hI hai pUrNa svabhAvase. use mainne grahaN kiyA hai, pakaDakar baiThA hUn, usakA artha yah hai. use grahaN kiyA hai. usakI AgepIchhekI nIti vaisI hai na, pakaDakar baiThA hUn. AgepIchhe kyA AtA hai?

mumukShu- AgepIchhe ho to jyAdA mAlUm paDe.

samAdhAna- paripUrNa dravyako mainne grahaN kiyA hai.

mumukShu- grahaN kiyA hai, matalab?

samAdhAna- grahaN kiyA arthAt lakShyamen liyA hai. us par dRuShTiko sthApit kI hai. mainne dRuShTi badalakar chaitanya dravya par dRuShTi kI hai. us par dRuShTi kI vah grahaNa. usakA avalamban liyA hai-grahaN kiyA hai.

mumukShu- avalamban liyA mAne?

samAdhAna- shabdake shabda aur usake pIchhe... shuddha paryAy pragaT hotI hai. samyagdarshan prApta ho (to) anek jAtakI shuddha paryAyen, chAritrakI paryAyen sab dravyadRuShTike Alambanase, dravyako grahaN karanese sab pragaT hotA hai. mUl vastu vah hai. use grahaN karanese, us par dRuShTi sthApit karanese sabhI paryAyen nirmal hotI hain. dRuShTi UlaTI hai isaliye sab paryAy vibhAvakI paryAy hotI hai. dRuShTi svabhAvakI or gayI to svabhAvamense phir nirmal paryAyen pragaT hotI hain. AtmAmense sab shuddha paryAyen pragaT hotI hai. us or dRuShTi jAy, us or pariNati muDe isaliye nirmalatA prApta hotI hai.

mumukShu- .. men kahanA hai ki chAritra binA samyagdRuShTi nahIn hai.

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samAdhAna- chAritra binA samyagdRuShTi nahIn hai,.. samyagdarshan sachchA na ho to chAritra nahIn hai. un logonko hamen javAb kyA denA, ham javAb de nahIn sakate hain. chAritra binA samyagdarshan nahIn hai, aisA hai? samyagdarshan nahIn hai to chAritra nahIn hai. chAritra yAnI bAhya chAritra vahAn nahIn kahA hai. bAhya chAritra... andar svarUp ramaNatArUp chAritra kab prApta ho? samyagdarshan prApta ho to hI chAritra prApta hotA hai. svarUpakI ramaNatArUp chAritra, jo yathArtha chAritra hai vah samyagdarshanake binA hotA nahIn. aur vah chAritra pragaT ho, usamen bIchamen munipanA Adi sab sahaj hI AtA hai. lekin vah samyagdarshan pUrvakakA chAritra vahI chAritra hai. samyagdarshan binAkA chAritra to bAhya kriyA mAtra aur shubhabhAv mAtra hai. samyagdarshan binAkA chAritra to shubhabhAvarUp kriyAmAtra hai.

samyagdarshan ho to hI sachchA chAritra hai. ananta kAlase jo chAritra samyagdarshan binA angIkAr kiyA vah dravya munipanA to ananta bAr pAlA. aisA dravya munipanA pAlakar ananta bAr graiveyakamen gayA. aisA chAritra to samyagdarshan binAkA ananta kAlamen bahut pAlA. usase kahIn bhavakA abhAv nahIn huA. samyagdarshan ho, andarakI svAnubhUti prApta ho to hI sachchA chAritra ho. samyagdarshan binA chAritra nahIn hai. chAritra binA samyagdarshan, vah to bAhya chAritra samajhanA, shubhabhAvarUpa. vah chAritra nahIn hai, usase puNya bandha hotA hai. usase naumvI graiveyak tak jAtA hai.

jise samyagdarshan hotA hai use avashya kramasha chAritra AtA hI hai. us bhavamen na Ave to dUsare bhavameen (AtA hai). jise samyagdarshan prApta ho, use avashya chAritra hotA hai. gRuhasthAshramamen samyagdRuShTi hote hain, chAritra nahIn hotA hai, parantu samyagdarshan hotA hai. parantu samyagdarshan jise prApta huA use avashya chAritra us bhavamen athavA dUsare bhavameen avashya chAritra hotA hai. bAharase kapaDe chhoD diye isaliye (ho gayA) chAritra. aur phir dharmakI pratIti vah samyagdarshana. usakA kyA samajhAye? ... vah bhinna hai. antaramen aisA ho, bAdamen bAharase tyAg hotA hai. antaramen ho to bAhya tyAg AtA hai. chhaThavAn-sAtavAn guNasthAn ho to hI munipanA (hotA hai).

mumukShu- gurudevake shabdonke pIchhe itanA gambhIr Ashay rahA hai...

samAdhAna- kahanekA Ashay alag hI thA.

mumukShu- gurudevake Ashayako Ap aur mAmA samajhe hain. bAkI sab to..

samAdhAna- kahanekA Ashay, usakA rahasya sab alag hI thA.

mumukShu- Apake ... gambhIr Ashay samajh sakate hain. .. mAtAjIkA upakAr hai.

samAdhAna- gurudevane sachchA mArga batAyA, us mArga par chalanese (prApta hotA hai).

mumukShu- gurudev... gurudevake mukhase mAtAjIkA nAm ... gurudevako mAtAjIkI mahimA

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karanemen shabda kam paDe hain.

samAdhAna- svAnubhUtikA mArga batAyA vah gurudevane hI batAyA hai. dUsarA kaun batAnevAlA thA? itane shAstrake rahasya khole. jhATakiyAne sab likhAvaTamen likh liyA. likhAvaTamen le liyA. samajhe binA use ThIk paDe vaisA likh liyA.

samAdhAna- AtmA bhinna hai, sharIr bhinna hai. aisI bAt karate the. AtmAmen svabhAvako pahachAnanese usamense dharma hotA hai. dharma bAharamen sab mAnate hain ki itanI kriyA karake dharma hotA hai. aise dharma hotA hai. dharma AtmAkA svabhAv hai, us svabhAvako pIchhAne aur svabhAvamense hI AtmAkA dharma pragaT hotA hai.

yah sharIr tattva jaD tattva hai, AtmA chaitanya tattva hai. us chaitanyatattvako pahachAno. vah apUrva anupam tattva hai. usako pahachAnanese usamense dharma hotA hai. bAkI ananta kAlamen sab kiyA. shubhabhAvase puNyabandha hotA hai. devalok hotA hai, bhavakA abhAv to hotA nahIn. bhavakA abhAv to AtmAko pIchhAnanese shuddhAtmAko pIchhAnanese hotA hai. shubhabhAv bIchamen Ate hain. Ate hain to puNyabandha hotA hai. parantu bhavakA abhAv AtmAkI svAnubhUti shuddhAtmAko pIchhAnanese hotI hai.

usakA bhedagnAn karanA ki yah sharIr main nahIn hUn, shubhAshubh bhAvase bhinna main chaitanyatattva hUn. chaitanyamense svabhAv dharma aur muktikA mArga usamense hotA hai. suvarNake gahane (suvaNase banate hain), lohemense lohA hotA hai. aise vibhAvamense to vibhAv hotA hai. svabhAvamense svabhAv pragaT hotA hai. AtmAko pahachAnanese usamense yah gnAn, darshan, chAritra sab usamense pragaT hotA hai.

samAdhAna- gurudev yahAn bahut sAl virAje. ab to gurudevakA bhav badal gayA. chaturtha kAl ho to yahAn dev Ate the. abhI panchamakAlamen devonkA AnA mushkil hai.

mumukShu- .. aise jIv hote hain, aisA batAnA hai.

samAdhAna- lAyakAtavAle jIv hote hain.

mumukShu- kyonki ab to merA AyuShya pUrNa hone AyA hai. 102 varSha chal rahA hai. aur paNDitajI kahate hain ki 106 hai, 107men Apako chhUTTI lenI hai. aisA paNDitajI kahate hain.

samAdhAna- yahAn bhAI hai to achchhA hai na.

mumukShu- are..! bahut achchhA hai. .. bhAI hai to achchhA hai na. ham sabako AdhAr rahe. ...

samAdhAna- apanI bhAvanAse jAnA hotA hai. aise puNya bandhate hain isaliye. aise bhAvase puNya bandha ho to jAnA hotA hai.

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mumukShu- gurudevake pAs to apanI bhAvanAse jAya. vahAn gurudevako pahachAnanA kaThin paDe. vahAn gurudevako pahichAnanA kaThin paDe ki yahI kAnajIsvAmI hai. vahAn to devakA rUp hogA. avadhignAnakA upayog rakhe... tab mAlUm paDe na. aisA avadhignAn to hai nahIn. devamen to avadhignAn to hotA hI hai.

mumukShu- bhale hI devamen ho, lekin dev usakA upayog kare hI aisA kuchh hai? mAtAjIkI to bAt hI kyA karanI. do miniT to upadesh dIjiye.

samAdhAna- upadesh kyA denA? gurudevane kahA hai vah Apane hRudayamen grahaN kiyA hai, vahI karanekA hai. dusarA kyA?

mumukShu- gurudevane kyA kahA hai, usakA sankShepamen..

samAdhAna- gurudevane gnAyak AtmAko pahachAnaneko kahA hai. gnAyak gnAyak AtmA, gnAyak Anandase bharA chaitanyatattva bhinna hai, use pahachAnanA. sabase bhinna tattva shAshvat AtmA, use pIchhAnaneko kahA hai. vah karanA hai.