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samAdhAna- .. shuddhAtmAko kaise pahachAne, aisI antar dRuShTi, main gnAyak chaitanya hUn, aise nirantar use lagan lage to use pratikShaN usakA bhedagnAn antaramense pragaT ho ki yah vikalpa main nahIn hUn, main chaitanya hUn, chaitanya hUn, aisI dhArA antaramense gnAnadhArA pragaT ho to usakA vikalpa TUTakar, svAnubhUti ho aisI apUrva dashA (ho), use samyagdarshan kahanemen AtA hai. aur usamen lInatA baDhate-baDhate svarUp ramaNatA ho tab chAritradashA (hotI hai). vah antaramense pragaT hotI hai. bAkI shubhabhAvarUp ho vah puNyabandha hotA hai. lekin usase bhavakA abhAv nahIn hotA. aise gurudevakI vANImen bArambAr vah AtA thA. shAstrommen bhI usI prakArase AtA hai. ananta janma-maraN kiye lekin usamen bahut bAr....

AtmA bhinna aur sharIr bhinna, donon bhinna tattva hain, us tattvako pahachAnanA. sankalpa- vikalpa ho vah AtmAkA svabhAv nahIn hai, sab vibhAvabhAv hain. usase bhinna AtmAkA svabhAv pahachAnanA vah karanekA hai. chaitanyatattvakA svabhAv bhinna hai, use pIchhAnanA. usake liye tattva vichAr, vAnchan, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA ek AtmAko pIchhAnaneke liye (hote hain). dhyey ek honA chAhiye ki mujhe gnAyak AtmA kaise pahichAnamen Aye? gnAyakatAse bharA huA hai. usamen AnandAdi ananta guN hain, usase pIchhAnanekA prayatna karanA. usakI lagan, usakI mahimA, usakA vichAr, vAnchan sab karane jaisA hai.

gurudevakI vANImen to koI apUrvatA AtI thI. AtmAkI apUrvatA batAte the. ananta kAlamen bAharakA bahut kiyA. kriyAen kI, ye kiyA lekin AtmAko pahachAnA nahIn AtmA koI apUrva vastu hai. ek samyagdarshan jIvane ananta kAlamen prApta nahIn kiyA hai aur jinavarasvAmI mile nahIn. arthAt svayamne pIchhAnA nahIn hai. isaliye mile vah nahIn milaneke barAbar hai. ek samyagdarshan prApta nahIn huA hai aur ek bhagavAn nahIn mile hain. sachche dev-guru-shAstrako jo pIchhAne vah svayamko pIchhAne. svayamko pIchhAne vah dev-guruko pIchhAnatA hai. isaliye chaitanyako pIchhAnanekA prayatna karane jaisA hai.

AtmA jAnanevAlA tattva hai. usamen sukh, usamen Ananda sab hai. bAharamen jo mAnA hai, bAharamen kuchh nahIn hai. bAharase AtmAmen AtA nahIn. jisako jo svabhAv hai, usamense

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pragaT hotA hai. gnAn gnAnamense, Ananda Ananda svabhAvamense pragaT hotA hai. shubhabhAv bIchamen AtA hai, lekin shubhabhAv bhI puNyabandhakA kAraN hai. shuddhAtmAko pahachAne to antarase shuddha paryAy pragaT ho aur bhavakA abhAv ho. jab tak shuddhAtmAko na pIchhAne, pUrNatA na ho tab tak shubhabhAv Aye, parantu vah chaitanyakA svabhAv nahIn hai, vah vibhAvabhAv hai. isaliye chaitanyako bhinna pIchhAnanA, vahI sarvasva aur vahI sArabhUt hai. use pIchhAnane jaisA hai.

mumukShu- usake liye kyA upAy karanA?

samAdhAna- upAy, bas ek hI antaramen lagan usIkI lagAnI, usIkI mahimA. bAharakI lagan kam karanI. vah ek hI karane jaisA hai. jIvanamen sarvasva vahI hai. usakI shraddhA, usakI pratIti gRuhasthAshramamen ho sakatA hai. antar pahachAnanekA prayatna (karanA). usakA bhedagnAn, use bhinna pIchhAnanA, vah sab ho sakatA hai.

phir, visheSh jab bhinnatA ho, bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT ho, svAnubhUti ho, munidashA to bAdamen AtI hai. ye to use gRuhasthAshramamen bhedagnAn, sachchI pratIti (hotI hai). gRuhasthAshramamen ho to antar dRuShTi karake svayam antaramense bhinna kar sakatA hai. lekin usakI lagan, utanI ruchi, utanA vichAr, antaramen manthan karake nirNay kare pahachAnanekA to hotA hai.

jaise shakkarakA svabhAv mIThAs, pAnIkA svabhAv ThaNDA hai, sphaTik svabhAvase nirmal hai. vaise AtmA svabhAvase nirmal hI hai. lekin use anAdise vibhAvabhAvakI bhrAnti huyI hai ki main malin ho gayA, vibhAvakA pravesh ho gayA hai. AtmA svabhAvase nirmal anAdiananta hai. ananta bhav ho gaye phir bhI vah svabhAv tattva to jyonkA tyon hai. isaliye vah tattva vartamAnamen aisA hai aur trikAl vaisA hai. isaliye use prayatna karake pahachAn lenA. vahI jIvanakA sarvasva hai. usIke liye, use pIchhAnanekA prayatna karanA.

mumukShu- Apake jo bhI udagAr yahAn nikale hain, bahut sundar hain. Apane jo... binA nahIn chalegA. Ap kitanA achchhA bole.

samAdhAna- nahIn chalegA. svayam AtmAkI sAdhanA kare usamen dev-guru-shAstrako sAthamen rakhatA hai. antarakA svabhAv pragaT ho usamen dev-guru-shAstra sAthamen hote hI hain. koI bAr bolA hogA isaliye likh liyA hogA.

mumukShu- bahut sundar A gayA hai. chaitanyake binA nahIn chalegA.

samAdhAna- vaise dev-guruke binA bhI nahIn chalegA.

mumukShu- sab liyA hai. shAstra liyA, phir apanA shrutakA chintavan, sab bol Apane liye hain.

samAdhAna- bole hon, vah likh le.

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mumukShu- Ap to mahAn hain.

samAdhAna- hamAre svayamvaramen Ap padhAranA. aise dev-guru-shAstra Ap padhAranA. pravachanasAramen AtA hai.

mumukShu- hAn, Apane likhA hai. bole the vah isamen likhA hai.

samAdhAna- sAdhanA karane nikale vahAn bhAvanA to aisI hI hotI hai na. dev- guru-shAstra sAthamen hon. abhyAs karanese pragaT hotA hai. chhoTIpIparakA gurudev kahate the na, ghIsanese usakA svabhAv pragaT hotA hai. vaise bArambAr gnAyakakA abhyAs karanese usakA svabhAv pragaT hotA hai.

mumukShu- vichAradhArAmeen bArambAr lenA?

samAdhAna- bArambAra. antaramen, vAstavamen to antarase grahaN kare tab ho aisA hai. phir bhI jab tak nahIn hotA tab tak vichAradhArAmen AtA hai.

mumukShu- antaramen arthAt mAtAjI kaise?

samAdhAna- usakA svabhAv pahachAnakar grahaN karanA ki yah gnAyak svabhAv so main hUn aur yah vibhAv so main nahIn hUn. aise svabhAvamense pahachAnanA. usake astitvamense pIchhAne.

mumukShu- hAn jI. astitva to vartamAn paryAy jo khyAlamenn AtI hai..

samAdhAna- vah paryAy hai, parantu mUl dravyako pahachAnakara. paryAy hai, lekin usamen pahachAnanekA AtmAko hai. paryAy jo dikhatI hai, kShaNamAtra main nahIn hUn, main to shAshvat hUn. jo gnAnakI paryAy dikhatI hai us paryAy jitanA hI main nahIn hUn, parantu main to shAshvat hUn. is prakAr svayamko antaramense grahaN kare. nishchay kare to svayam antaramen sUkShma hokar grahaN kar sakatA hai. apanA svabhAv hai isaliye.

mumukShu- aisA hotA hai ki dev-guru-shAstra, vAnchan, vichAr Adi bahut priy lagatA hai, usake sivA kuchh ruchatA nahIn. phir bhI Age nahIn chalatA hai. aisA rahA karatA hai. usake sivA to kahIn suhAtA nahIn aisA ho jAtA hai. pUre dinamen yadi kuchh svAdhyAy nahIn huA ho to aisA hotA hai Aj kuchh nahIn huA, apane kuchh bAkI rah gayA, aisA lage. parantu phir Age kuchh chalatA nahIn.

samAdhAna- Age nahIn baDhe tab tak ek dhyey AtmAkA (rakhanA). usakA abhyAs karate rahanA, na ho tabataka. abhyAs ho to antaramen use Age baDhanekA avakAsh hai.

mumukShu- vikalpa main nahIn hUn, aise...?

samAdhAna- vikalpa Aye, lekin vah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. pahale usakA abhyAs kar sakatA hai. bAkI sachchA bhedagnAn to use sahaj pahachAnakar pratIt ho to hotA

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hai. yathArtha bhedagnAn to (tab hotA hai). tab tak usakA abhyAs kare. vikalpa bhI merA svabhAv nahIn hai. main to nirvikalpa tattva chaitanya hUn. parantu vah use yathArtha grahaN na ho tab tak abhyAs dvArA hotA hai.

(gurudevane) yathArtha batA diyA hai. kisIko kahIn bhUl paD jAy aisA nahIn hai. puruShArtha to svayamko karanA hai. yah paryAy hai, yah dravya hai, yah shubhabhAv hai, yah terA svabhAv nahIn hai. tU kShaNik paryAy jitanA nahIn hai. tere ananta guNonse (bharapUr hai). guNakA bhed paDe aise bhedavAlA terA svabhAv nahIn hai. tU akhaNDa hai. teremen guN hain, lekin us bhed par dRuShTi (karake) usamen rukanese bhI chaitanyakA mUl svabhAv hai vah grahaN nahIn hotA hai. gnAnamen sab gnAn kare, parantu dRuShTi to ek akhaNDa par rakhanI.

gurudevane anek prakArase spaShTa karake mArga batAyA hai, kahIn bhUl paDe aisA nahIn hai. puruShArtha svayamko karanA hai. jinhen gurudevakI vANI nahIn milI hai, un sabakI dRuShTi to kahAn bAhar kriyAmen paDI hotI hai. gurudev to dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp, usake sUkShma bhAv batA diye hain.

mumukShu- gurudevashrIkA mahAn upakAr hai. gurudevakA, ApakA ananta-ananta upakAr hai.

samAdhAna- gurudev dishA batAyI, nahIn to log kahAn paDe the. svAnubhUti to bAdamen hotI hai. pahale to svabhAv grahaN hotA hai. svAnubhUtikA Ananda to nirvikalpa tattva jo pragaT ho vah bAdamen hotA hai. pahale to use grahaN yathArtha hotA hai, pratIt yathArtha hotA hai, usakA gnAn ho, bAdamen usakI lInatA jyAdA ho to use svAnubhUti hotI hai. isaliye pahale to yathArtha grahaN-antaramense grahaN kare.

mumukShu- grahaN to gnAnase karanA na?

samAdhAna- gnAnase grahaN karanA. pragnAthI bhinna karanA aur pragnAse grahaN karanA. gnAnase grahaN hotA hai. kartA-parapadArthakA main kar sakatA hUn aur par merA kar sakatA hai. gurudevane (batAyA ki), tU gnAtA hai, ye kartRutva teremen nahIn hai. tU parakA kar nahIn sakatA. tU gnAtA-dRuShTA udAsIn gnAtA hai. aisA svabhAv svayamkA antaramense pahachAne to use yathArtha bhedagnAn ho.

mumukShu- antaramense pahachAne.

samAdhAna- antaramense pIchhAne.

mumukShu- antaramense pIchhAnaneke liye ruchi baDhAnI?

samAdhAna- ruchi baDhAye. lagan, ruchi.

mumukShu- Ap bole honge vah Atmadharmamen AyA hai. terI kahAn bhAvanA hai? aisI

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ruchi ho to ho na.

samAdhAna- bhAvanA ruchi ho to hotI hai. dhUn ho tab ekasAth sab bolanemen A jAtA hai.

mumukShu- lekin bahut achchhA bole hain. dononko sandhi-AtmAkI aur dev-shAstra- gurukI Akhir takakI sandhi. ruchi, bhAvanAkI bAt sAthamen lI thI.

samAdhAna- bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT karanI. mArga to ek hI hai. mArga ek hI hai. puruShArtha svayamko karanA hai. kaise ho? puruShArtha kaise karanA?

muumukShu- mArgamen kaise chalanA, aisA ho jAtA hai. anAdikA anajAnA mArga. ye mArga kahAn thA? gurudevashrIne batAyA.

samAdhAna- kahIn nahIn thA. upavAs karake dharma mAne, bas, aisA thA.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- hAn, aisA thA. sampradAyakA... ekadam spaShTa. kriyA to kahAn, shubhabhAv bhI terA svabhAv nahIn hai aur dravya-guN-paryAyamen bhI tU aTakanA mat, aisA kahate hain. vikalpamen mat aTaka. tere mUl astitvako grahaN kara. gnAn sabakA kar, parantu dRuShTi to ek chaitanya par kara. mushkil hai.

mumukShu- kuchh mushkil nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- .. alag thA. gurudevake sAth jAnA kuchh alag thA.

mumukShu- Ap kaisA svAgat karavAte the. aisI mahimA kisIko nahIn AtI, aisA lagatA hai. unake svAsthyake sAmane dekhA hai kabhI?

samAdhAna- kabhI nahIn dekhA. mUsalAdhAr barasAt barasAyI hai.

mumukShu- har gAmvamen jinAlay hote the aur karo yahAn dharmadhyAna.

samAdhAna- sab gAmvamen vihAr kiyA.

mumukShu- kAl lambA ho jAy tab kabhI-kabhI dhairya khatma ho jAtA hai. mAtAjI! kabhI nirAshA bhI ho jAtI hai. phirase Apake vachanake avalambanase bal Aye. aisA ho ki mAtAjI jo kahate hain vahI karane jaisA hai. apanI bhAvanAkI kachAs hai.

samAdhAna- andar gnAyak AtmAkA abhyAs karanA. vahAn rahakar, dUsarA kyA ho? vAnchan, vichAr, lagan lagAnI. ye chhabalabahin tambolIkI bahut pratikUlatA thI. yahAn kuchh khAs nahIn hai. .. Ate nahIn hai.

... svayamko karanA hai. mArga to gurudevane bahut spaShTa kiyA hai. kahIn kisIkI bhUl rahe aisA nahIn hai. .. aisA nahIn hai. gurudevane ekadam spaShTa kiyA hai.

mumukShu- kisIko koI jagah...

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samAdhAna- pariNati bhinna paDe. bhinna nahIn karatA hai, sAthamen ekatva rahatA hai.

mumukShu- ekatva toDaneke liye svabhAvakA avalamban?

samAdhAna- svabhAvakA avalamban antaramense le to ho. jitanI gnAyakakI mahimA AnI chAhiye, utanI AtI nahIn. antaramen hI sarvasva sArabhUt hai. usImen sabakuchh hai. utanI antarase lagan lage to puruShArtha kShati hai (vah dUr hokar) antaramen jAya. karanekA ek hI hai. pariNati bhinna karake bhedagnAn karanA.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! vichAr aisA AtA hai ki anek gnAnI ho gaye aur unako is prakAr unake gnAnamen mahimA AyI aur.. hamen us prakArakI mahimA kyon nahIn AtI hai? jitanI svarUpakI agAdhatA athavA gambhIratA hai, utanI svarUpakI gambhIratA gnAnamen AnI chAhiye athavA mahimA AnI chAhiye, aisI savikalpa dashAmen mahimA kyon nahIn AtI ki jisase pariNati andar nahIn jAtI? prayatnamen to jaisI hamArI samajh hai us prakArakA prayatna to chAlU hI hai. kam-besI pramANamen hotA hai. parantu ras kahIn aur hai aisA to dikhatA nahIn. phir bhI aTakatA hai yah bhI khyAlamen AtA hai. phir bhI ekAnta usImen ras paDA hai,.. vah bhI khyAlamen AtA hai ki yah bhUl hai, doSh hai. itanA bhI khyAlamen AtA hai. puruShArtha karanekI gambhIratA bhI samajhamen AtI hai. aur us tarah puruShArtha karanekA prayatna bhI chalatA hai. phir bhI mahimA, gnAyakakI mahimA jo Ap kahate ho, jis prakArase antarase AnI chAhiye, aisI mahimA, aisA lagatA hai ki us prakArase nahIn hai. savikalpa dashAmen aisI koI mahimA A jAtI hogI ki anubhav ho tab hI vAstavamen mahimA Aye?

samAdhAna- usakI mahimA savikalpatAmen bhI AtI to hai, nahIn to vah antaramen jAy kaise? mahimA Aye. bhale yathArtha mahimA use jo anubhavamen Aye vah to koI alag AtI hai. parantu pahale use AtI hai ki ye vibhAv koI mahimArUp nahIn hai. svabhAv hI mahimArUp hai. aisI andarase dRuDh pratIti to pahale use Aye to hI svabhAvakI or jhukatA hai. aisI pratIti to antaramense AnI chAhiye. mahimA to use (pahale) AtI hai. parantu vah nahIn AtI hai isaliye ruk jAtA hai. usakI mandatA ho jAtI hai. parantu mahimA pahale bhI AtA to hai. parantu vah mahimA to alag hai, svabhAvakI pariNati. anubhav dashAmen Aye (vah).

mumukShu- kal paNDitajIne ek bAt kahI, andarase dhAr pragaT ho aur jitanA usakA phorsa khyAlamen Aye, agAdhatA khyAlamen Aye, vah anubhav honeke bAd vah donon bAt bahut sundar prakArase (samajhAyI ki), Anshik pragaT honese paripUrNatAkA khyAl us vakta to A sakatA hai. kyonki vah prakAr hI aisA hotA hai ki sarvAngase vah Ananda

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pragaT hotA hai aur usakA josh bhI us prakArakA hotA hai. ye donon bAt us prakArase samajhAyI thI. to kaise, abhI to Ap kahate ho vaise andarase samajhamen to barAbar hai ki yahI karane jaisA hai, yah karanese sukh hogA, usakA prayatna bhI kam-besI pramANamen chalatA hai. ho sakatA hai ki puruShArtha kam ho. parantu kabhI-kabhI aisI ulajhan ho jAtI hai ki itanA prayatna karate hain (phir bhI prApta kyon nahIn hotA)?

samAdhAna- usakI mahimA andar kaisI hai, vah to use svAnubhUtike ansh parase pUrNatA kitanI usakA khyAl Aye. ye to savikalpatAmen nirNay karatA hai. parantu usamen usake puruShArtha kShati hai isaliye jA nahIn sakatA. puruShArthakI mandatA hai. jisamen paDA hai anAdike abhyAsamen, usImen paDA hai. usamense bhinna nahIn paDatA. thoDA jyAdA puruShArtha kare, parantu jitanA chAhiye utanA puruShArtha nahIn karatA hai, isaliye bhinna nahIn paD sakatA hai.

anAdike abhyAsamen usI pravAhamen bah jAtA hai. us pravAhako pIchhe nahIn moDatA. moDe to amuk prakArase moDatA hai. sarva prakArase moDanA chAhiye vaise nahIn moDatA. bhale ek ansharUpamen lekin pratItimen to use sarva prakArase, sarvasvarUpase moDanA chAhiye. chAritrakA ek bAkI rahe, parantu pratItimen utanI pUrNa shraddhA, utanI pratitakA jor hotA hai ki yah dravya vastu akhaNDa pUrNa vah main hUn aur vahI sarvasvarUpase AdaraNIy hai. sarva prakArase vahI AdaraNIy hai. sab karake usImen lInatA karane jaisI hai aur vahI karane jaisA hai. sarvasva prakArase utanI pratItikA jor pahale use utanI dRuDhatA Ave to vApas muDe. us pravAhamen aisI hI bah jAtA hai.

mumukShu- pahale ashubhamen jyAdA bahanA hotA thA, ab shubhamen aisA lagatA hai ki shubhamen kahIn na kahIn aTakatA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, kahIn na kahIn pravAhamen bah jAtA hai. phir shubh rahatA hai, amuk asthiratA hotI hai, parantu usakI pratItimen to sarva prakArase sarvAnshase yahI karane jaisA hai, aisI pUrNa pratItimen dRuDhatA (A jAnI chAhiye). pratItikI pariNati to ekadam apanI or dRuShTikA jor pahale Aye to usakA anAdikA pravAh vApas muDe. pravAhakA pUrA bal svabhAvakI or muD jAya. phir thoDA khaDA rahe vah alag bAt hai. pravAh anAdikA hai, vah pUrA pravAh svabhAvakI or usakI dRuShTikI dishA pUrI badal jAya. bAhar dekhatA hai usake bajAy dekhanekI dishA chaitanyakI or chalI jAtI hai. dRuShTiko chaitanya par sthApit kar detA hai.

mumukShu- vibhAvabhAvasee main bhinna hUn aur svabhAvakI mahimA...

samAdhAna- donon ekasAth hI hotA hai. svabhAvakI mahimA aur isase bhinna hUn.

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svabhAvakA avalamban le aur vibhAvase bhinna hUn. svabhAvakA astitva grahaN kare aur isase main bhinna hUn. astitva grahaN kare vahAnse bhed karatA hai. astitva grahaN kare usamen svayamkI mahimA samA jAtI hai. akhaNDa gnAyak main hUn, us gnAyakakA astitva grahaN kare, vibhAvase bhinna (ho jAtA hai).

khaNDa-khaNDarUp jo paryAy dikhatI hai utanA bhI main nahIn hUn, main to akhaNDa gnAyak hUn. aise astitvako grahaN kare. usakI mahimA, usakA astitva, use grahaN kare to vibhAvase bhinna paDe. svayamko grahaN kare aur vibhAvase bhinna paDatA hai. bhinna honeke bAd dRuShTike balase pratikShaN bhinna paDatA rahatA hai. vibhAv Aye to bhI kShaN-kShaNamen, kShaN-kShaNamen bhinna paDatA hai. anAdikA ekatvabuddhikA pravAh hai us pravAhamen bah jAtA hai. vichArase nakkI kare ki main bhinna hUn, ye merA astitva isase bhinna hai, aisA vichArase (nakkI kare), aisA vichAr karatA rahe, parantu kAryake andar usakI pariNatikA pravAh ekatvamen chalA jAtA hai. vah kArya nahIn karatA hai.

kArya jo svabhAvakI or jAnA chAhiye, dRuShTikA bal, vah nahIn jAtA hai. pravAhamen bah jAtA hai. vichArase chAhe jitanA nakkI kare, phir bhI pravAh jyonkA tyon chalatA hai. vah manda, kabhI ugra-tIvra aisA karatA rahatA hai, lekin svabhAvakI or jorase jo dRuShTi jAnI chAhiye vah jAtI nahIn. svabhAvakA astitva balapUrvak mahimApUrvak grahaN kare to vibhAvase bhinna paD jAtA hai.