Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 182.

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samAdhAna- .. chetan svabhAv, merA svabhAv aisI kShaN-kShaN usakI lagan lage, kShaN-kShaN usakA bhedagnAn, usakI bhAvanA chAlU rakhanI. sahaj to bAdamen hotI hai. main yah chaitanya hUn, yah main (nahIn hUn). svatasiddha chaitanya ek dravya hai. us dravyamen Ananda, gnAn Adi sab usamen bharA hai. bArabAr usakI pahichAn karanI chAhiye. pahale yathArtha gnAn kare, usakI yathArtha shraddhA kare phir usakI pariNati bhinna paDe. yathArtha pratIt pahale andarase honI chAhiye.

mumukShu- usakI yathArtha pratIti kaise karanI ki yah vastu yahI hai?

samAdhAna- antaramen vichAr karake. gurudevane jo mArga batAyA hai, gurudevane jo kahA ki AtmA bhinna hai, usakA vichAr karake, andar tattvakA vichAr karake yah chaitanya hai vahI main hUn, yah main nahIn hUn. ye chaitanya svabhAv, ye gnAyak jo antaramen apanA astitva hai vahI main hUn, paradravya main nahIn hUn. aisI us par dRuShTi sthApit karake, usakI pratIti dRuDh karake phir usakA bhedagnAn kare to us bhedagnAn karanemen use bal AtA hai, dRuDhatA hotI hai. nahIn to pratItike binA dRuDhatA AtI nahIn. isaliye yathArtha pratIti karanI ki yah chaitanya hai vahI main hUn. ye sab par hai. usakA vichAr karake, tattvakA vichAr karake usakA svabhAv pahichAne aur yathArtha pratIti karanI.

mumukShu- bahin! samyagdRuShTi AtmAkI sthiti us vakta kaisI hotI hai?

samAdhAna- usakI sthiti koI alag hI hotI hai. usakI dRuShTi pUrI badal gayI, usakI dishA badal gayI. use andar bhedagnAnakI dhArA sahaj hotI hai. use yAd nahIn karanA paDatA. jis kShaN vibhAv hotA hai, usI kShaN use usakA svabhAv bhinna bhAsit hotA hai. usakI dhArA hI alag chalatI hai. usakI gnAyakakI pariNati alag hI chalatI hai. aur upayog antaramen jAy to use svAnubhUti hotI hai. AtmAkI anubhUti jo jagatase bhinna hai. jagatamen usakA koI namUnA yA kuchh nahIn hai. AtmA koI alag hI hai, usakI svAnubhUti use hotI hai. jaise siddha bhagavAn hain, aisI use Anshik svAnubhUti hotI hai. usakI dashA pUrI alag hotI hai. aur bAhar upayog ho to bhedagnAnakI dhArA to use sahaj vartatI hai. use khAte-pIte, nidrAmen, svapnamen har vakta pratikShaN bhedagnAnakI


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dhArA sahaj vartatI hai. usakI dashA pUrI alag hotI hai. usake jIvanakI dishA palaT gayI. antaramense dishA hI palaT gayI hotI hai.

mumukShu- us vakta use kahAn suhAtA hai?

samAdhAna- use AtmAkI or hI suhAtA hai, kahIn aur nahIn suhAtA. usakI pariNati AtmAkI or hI dauDatI hai. AtmAkI or hI usakI pariNati jAtI hai. pariNati bAhar alparUpase jAtI hai, parantu use puruShArthake balase svarUp-or hI usakI pariNati dauDatI hai. use svarUpamen hI ruchatA hai, kahIn aur use ruchatA nahIn. usakI sab dhArA svarUp-or hI jAtI hai.

alpa asthiratA hai to usakA puruShArtha sahajapane apanI or bahatA hai, gnAyakakI or hI muDatA hai. Anshik shAnti-samAdhi aur gnAyakatAkI dhArA usakI chAlU hI rahatI hai. phir jaise usakI ugratA hotI jAy, vaise use svAnubhUti baDhatI jAtI hai. aur bAdamen usakI bhUmikA badalatI hai. chhaThavAn-sAtavAn guNasthAn munidashA Aye to kShaN- kShaNamen svarUpamen lInatA hotI hai.

mumukShu- svakI or Aneke liye puruShArtha kaise karanA?

samAdhAna- apanI or main chaitanya hUn aur usakA ras bAharakA kam ho jAtA hai. svarUpakI ruchi aur svarUp-orakA ras baDh jAy to bAharakI pariNati kam ho jAya. usakA bhedagnAn kare ki ye jo bAhar jAtA hai, vah vibhAv hai, merA svabhAv hI nahIn hai. vah mujhe sukharUp nahIn hai, vah AkulatArUp hai. sukh aur shAnti ho to chaitanyamen hI hai. isaliye chaitanya-orakI aisI dRuDh pratIti ho, us or dRuShTi jAy, usakI dishA amuk prakArase bhAvanArUp bhI badale to usakI bAhar jo pariNati jAtI hai vah kam ho jAya. ye sab AkulatArUp hai, shAnti aur sukharUp ho to merA AtmA hI hai. aisI use yadi pratIti, ruchi ho to apanI or muDe.

anAdiananta nirmal svabhAv hUn. ye sab jo vibhAv dikhatA hai vah sab paryAy hai. andar mUl svabhAvamen nahIn hai. sphaTikamen jo rang-berang dikhate hain, gulAbI, kAlA, harA, vah usake mUlamen nahIn hai. vaise ye jo vibhAvake rang dikhAI dete hain, vah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. main to nirmal svabhAv AtmA hUn. aisA antaramen gnAn, aisI pratIti, aisI dRuShTi ho to apanI or pariNati muDe. utanI dRuDhatA ho to.

mumukShu- bArambAr andar yah vichAr karate rahanA?

samAdhAna- bArambAr karanA. aur vichAramen dRuDhatA na rahe to us prakArakA vAnchan karanA, us prakArakA vichAr karanA. ek hI jagah vichAr na rahe to use dRuDh rakhaneke liye us prakArakA vAnchan gurudevane kahA hai, shAstrakA abhyAs karanA, antaramen vichAr


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karanA. parantu ek chaitanya kaise pahachAnamen Aye aur usakA bhedagnAn kaise ho, dhyey vah ek hI honA chAhiye. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA (honI chAhiye). AtmA ek mahimAvant koI alag vastu hai. aisI mahimApUrvak sab vichAr vAnchan kare.

mumukShu- vRutti paramen jAtI hai hai.

samAdhAna- anAdikA abhyAs hai aur us prakArakA abhyAs dRuDh ho gayA hai. svabhAv apanA hai, sahaj hai. saral hai, lekin abhyAs dUsarA-vibhAvakA ho gayA hai. isaliye us or bAharamen anAdise dauD jAtA hai. us sanskArako anAdise dRuDh kar liyA hai. isaliye apanI orake sanskArako dRuDh kare, bArambAr use dRuDh kare to vibhAv orake sanskAr kam ho jAya.

kitane hI jIvonko antaramen ruchi pragaT huyI. kisIko dishA mAlUm nahIn thI. gurudevane dishA batAyI hai. sab kahAn-ke-kahAn bAhar kriyAmen paDe the. thoDA bAharakA kar le, thoDA upavAs kar le, thoDA pratikramaN, sAmAyik kar le to dharma ho gayA, aisemen paDe the. gurudevane kitanI gaharI dRuShTi batAyI.

ye vibhAvasvabhAv, shubhabhAv bhI puNyabandhakA kAraN hai. andar tU akhaNDa dravya par dRuShTi kara. gurudevane to kitanI sUkShma gaharI bAt batA dI hai. bIchamen shubhabhAv Aye, parantu terA svabhAv to usase nirAlA hai. guNakA gnAnakA kar, parantu dRuShTi to ek akhaNDa par sthApit kara. gurudevane sabakI dRuShTikI dishA pUrI badal dI. karanA to svayamko hai.

samAdhAna- dev-guru-shAstrakA mujhe Adar hai aur sabako sAthamen rakhatA hUn. unake darshan, unakI vANI Adi sab mere sAth ho. main jA rahA hUn mere puruShArthase. jinendra devakI mahimA, bhagavAnakI, gurukI, shAstrakI. bhagavAnakI mahimA, jinendra devakI mahimA to karane jaisI hai.

mumukShu- gurudev aur Apake pratApase. aisI mAn kahIn aur nahIn hotI.

samAdhAna- chaitanyakA abhyAs baDh jAy, usakI mahimA baDh jAy to bAharakA ras kam ho jAya.

mumukShu- ... karaneke liye mArgadarshan to chAhiye. apaneAp to hotA nahIn.

samAdhAna- usake liye satsang ho, guru ho, unakA apUrva upadesh ho. paradeshamen ho vahAn samajhanekA kam hotA hai. na ho vahAn to apaneAp hI samajhanA paDatA hai. bAkI satsang, sachche guru, unakA apUrva upadesh, vah sab usake sAdhan hain.

mumukShu- lanDanamen..

samAdhAna- mArga jahAn prApta ho vahAn...

mumukShu- kuTumba pratikI sab pharja ho to bhI chaitanya svabhAvamen svayam A sakatA hai?


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samAdhAna- par jIvonne kahAn svayamko pratibandhamen rakhA hai? apane rAgake kAraN rukatA hai. kar sakatA hai. antaramen apane pariNAmako koI rok nahIn sakatA. antaramense AtmA apUrva hai, usakA ras toD de, sab karake svabhAvako pahichAnanekA prayatna kare, vichAr kare, vAnchan kare usamen rok nahIn sakatA, koI rokatA nahIn. bAharakA kuTumba koI rokatA nahIn.

ye to abhI samajhanekI bAt hai, (Age to) bhedagnAn karanekI bAt hai. usakI lagan lagAnekI bAt hai. muni bananekI bAt abhI Age hai, abhI to svAnubhUti karake bhavakA abhAv ho vah bAt hai, vah to ho sakatA hai. kuTumbamen paDA ho to bhI ho sakatA hai. antarakA ras toDanA apane hAthakI bAt hai. bAhya sanyog use rokate nahIn.

... ekatvabuddhi karake bAhya kAyAmen apanA kartavya mAn-mAnakar svayam rachApachA rahe to svayam rukatA hai, koI rokatA nahIn. svayam ras kam karake virakti karake antaramen svayamkA kar sakatA hai. rAjAon bhI gRuhasthAshramamen rahakar andarase bhinna rahakar AtmAkA kar sakate the, AtmAkI svAnubhUti kar sakate the. sahaj hI chhUT jAte the. bAharake kArya use rokate nahIn the, antarase nirlep rahate the.

... sAmagrI kitanI ho to bhI antarase to bhinna hI rahate the. merA AtmA vahI mujhe sarvasva hai. ... antarase vAnchan karanA, vichAr karanA, ye sab to...

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- vah koI karmakA uday nahIn hai. svayam kare to hotA hai. sansAramen svayam hI rachApachA hai aur toDe to svayam hI chhoD sakatA hai. antaramen ekatvabuddhi karake, ras karake yah mujhe karanA chAhiye, yah mujhe honA chAhiye aur ye itanA kar lenA chAhiye, itanA yah chAhiye, itanA bAharakA chAhiye, svayam hI usamen rukA hai. koI rokatA nahIn. use uday nahIn rokatA hai. svayam puruShArtha karake badal sakatA hai. (uday) use rokatA nahIn. uday rokatA ho to koI puruShArtha kar hI na sake. gRuhasthAshramamen rahakar samyagdarshan prApta kare, svAnubhUti kare, bhinna rahate the, to koI kar hI na sake. udayakA kAraN nahIn hai. svayamkA kAraN hai. apanI bhUlase rakhaDA hai aur svayam chhUT sakatA hai.

ananta kAlamen sab milA hai. ek samyagdarshan jIvane prApta nahIn kiyA hai. vah apUrva hai. anAdi kAlamen bhagavAn nahIn mile hain. bhagavAn mile to svayamne pahichAnA nahIn hai. vah donon apUrva hain, dUsarA kuchh jagatamen apUrva nahIn hai.

mumukShu- .. apane karmakA uday Aye..

samAdhAna- udayase samajhamen nahIn AtA, parantu svayam puruShArtha kare. usakA bArambAr


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abhyAs kare. jabatak samajhamen na Aye, jabatak pragaT na ho, tabatak usakA abhyAs karatA hI rahe. mArga to ek hI hai-chaitanyako pahichAnanA, bhedagnAn karanA, usakI-nirvikalpa tattvakI svAnubhUti jabatak na ho, tabatak usakA abhyAs karatA hI rahe, usamen thake nahIn. usakA vichAr kare, usakA vAnchan kare, bArambAr-bArambAr karatA hI rahe, jabatak na ho tabataka.

mumukShu- itane sAre panth aur bhinna-bhinna sampradAy hain, usamen aisA hai kyA ki amuk hI lenA chAhiye? amukakA hI vAnchan karanA chAhiye aur dUsarekA nahIn karanA chAhiye, aisA hai usamen?

samAdhAna- sab sampradAy hai, parantu mArga to ek hI hai. svAnubhUtikA panth AtmAkA jo pragaT karanekA, AtmAkA jo svabhAv hai, AtmAkA sukh hai use pragaT karanekA panth to ek hI hai. jyAdA panth ho, matabhed hote hain, usamen satya kyA hai vah svayamko nakkI karanA paDatA hai. jise AtmAkA karanA hai, jise jignAsA jAgI hai, jise AtmAkA sukh prApta karanA hai, svayam hI nakkI kare ki kis mArgase AtmAkA svarUp prApta hotA hai? vah svayam hI nakkI kare. kaun-se guru aur kaun-sA panth satya hai, svayam hI nakkI karake us mArga par jAya. usake liye jyAdA panth...

koI kahAn ruk gayA hotA hai, koI kahAn ruk gayA hotA hai. koI paDhanemen, koI raTanemen, koI tyAg karanemen, koI kahAn-koI kahAn. parantu antarakI dRuShTi kyA? antaramen satya mArga kyA hai, vah mArga to ek hI hotA hai. svayamko hI us or muDanA hai, koI kar nahIn detA. svatantra hai, rakhaDanemen svayam svatantra aur pragaT karanemen bhI svayam svatantra hai. svayam hI nakkI kar le. jise jignAsA jAge vah satya grahaN amuk prakArase kar hI letA hai ki yah mArga sachchA hai. use pragaT bhale bAdamen ho, parantu pahale nakkI kare ki satya to yahI hai. ye guru kahate hain aur ye guru jo mArga batAte hain, vah sachchA hai. aisA svayam nakkI kar sakatA hai.

mumukShu- svAdhyAy karaneke bAd athavA amuk usakA bhAv karaneke bAd usakA koI nAp AtA hai ki kahAn tak usakA gnAn huA hai?

samAdhAna- jabatak svayam yathArtha samajhatA nahIn hai, (tabatak) svAdhyA karatA hai, usakA koI nAp nahIn hotA. antaramen prayojanabhUt gnAn honA chAhiye. AtmA kaun hai? usakA svabhAv kyA hai? usamen guN kyA hai? usakI paryAy kyA? usakA vibhAv kyA? ye pudagal kyA? chaitanya kyA? vah sab samajhaneke liye shAstrakA abhyAs hotA hai. antarase yathArtha samajhan ho, samajhaneke liye hai. usakA nAp nahIn hotA ki itanA paDhanA chAhiye aur itanA dhokhanA chAhiye. prayojanabhUt tattvakI pahichAn honI chAhiye.


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... Age nahIn jAy tabatak shAstra abhyAs, usakA chintavan, manan hotA hI hai. itanA paDhanA hI chAhiye yA itanA dhokhanA chAhiye, aisA koI siddhAnta nahIn hai. antarase samajhanA chAhiye. thoDA (prayojanabhUt) samajhe to bhI antarase pragaT ho. use thoDA AtA ho. shivabhUti muni the, unhen kuchh yAd nahIn rahatA thA. AtmA bhinna aur yah vibhAv bhinna (hai). itanI samajh huyI to antaramen Utar gaye.

mumukShu- sabamense ek AtmAko bhinna kar lenA..

samAdhAna- mA-ruSh aur mA-tuSh kahA to utanA bhI yAd nahIn rahA. gurudevane kyA kahA, rAg karanA nahIn, dveSh karanA nahIn, vah yAd nahIn rahA. bAI dAl dho rahI thI. mere gurune kahA, ye dAl bhinna, chhilakA bhinna. AtmA bhinna aur vibhAvabhAv bhinna. aisA bhAv grahaN kar liyA. andarase bhedagnAn kiyA, AtmA bhinna aur yah bhinna hai. aisA karake antarameense (grahaN kar liyA). mUl prayojanabhUt grahaN karanA hai.

mumukShu- aisA kuchh hai ki manuShyako bachapanamen athavA chhoTI umramen kam khyAl Aye aur baDI umra ho tab use jyAdA bhAv ho?

samAdhAna- aisA koI niyam nahIn hotA hai. UlaTA chhoTI umramen bahutonko jyAdA hotA hai. kisIko baDI umramen hotA hai, use umrake sAth koI sambandha nahIn hai. umrake sAth kuchh sambandha nahIn hai. AtmA svatantra hai.

jabatak na ho tabatak abhyAs karate hI rahanA. jise jo lagan lagI vah chhUTatI nahIn. laukikamen koI ras ho to usake pIchhe lagakar vah kAm karatA hI rahatA hai, na ho to bhI. kuchh bhI ho, bAharakI koI kalA sIkhanI ho, kuchh sIkhanA ho to vah karatA hI rahatA hai, jabatak na Aye tabataka. vaise isake pIchhe paDakar usakA abhyAs karatA hI rahe. utanA vishvAs aur utanI pratIti honI chAhiye ki isI mArgase AtmA pragaT honevAlA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!