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mumukShu- atIndriy Ananda ...

samAdhAna- svAnubhUti kahAn hai? pratIt hai na, gnAyakakI dhArA. gnAyakakI dhArA ... vikalpa chhUTakar svAnubhUti ho, vah alag bAt hai. ye to bhedagnAnakI dhArA to huI hai. bhedagnAnakI dhArAkI Anshik shAnti anubhavamen AtI hai. usakI bhUmikA hai us anusAra. usakI dashA anusAra. kisIko kab ho, kisIko kab ho, vah to dashA anusAr (hotA hai). savikalpa dashAmen to bhedagnAnakI dhArA to usakI bhUmikA ho us anusAr shAntikI dhArA rahatI hai. usase bhinna rahatA hai. ekamek nahIn hotA. gnAyak- gnAnakI pariNati bhinna rahatI hai.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- hAn, upayog aur pariNatimen pharka hai. pariNati to hameshA usakI chAlU hI hai. bhedagnAnakI dhArA. upayog bAhar jAye, upayog antaramen Aye. svAnubhiU ho tab upayog antaramen Aye. upayog bAhar hotA hai to bhI pariNati to chAlU hI hai. pariNati (aur) upayogamen pharka hai. usakI bhedagnAnakI dhArA to chAlU hI hai. amuk anshamen jitanI dashA pragaT huyI, vah chAlU hai. use labdha arthAt shaktirUpase nahIn hai, parantu use pragaT hai vaise, pariNati pragaT hai.

mumukShu- ek samayamen do paryAy?

samAdhAna- jitanI dashA pragaT huyI, shuddha hai utanI shuddha hai. jitanI ashuddha hai utanI ashuddha hai. chAritrakI dashA amuk prakArase shuddhi huyI, svarUpAcharaN chAritra Anshik pragaT huA hai, bAkIkI jo nyUnatA hai vah nyUnatA hai. sarvAnshase kahIn chAritradashA pUrI nahIn huyI hai. jitanI nyUnatA hai, utanI ashuddha paryAy hai. jitanI shuddhatA huyI, shuddhAtmAkI shuddha paryAyarUp pariNati sahajarUpase chAlU hai.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- nirmalatA to use dRuShTikI apekShAse hai. bAkI chAritrakI nirmalatA to munikI jyAdA hai. chAritradashA, svAnubhUti kShaN-kShaNamen, kShaN-kShaNamen, kShaN-kShaNamen svAnubhUti hotI hai. muni to antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen antaramen jAte hain. chAritrakI dashA munikI visheSh

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hai. kShayopasham hai usakA malatab use lathaDapathaD nahIn hai. vah to dRuDhatArUp hai. vah to use kShay nahIn huA hai, utanA. bAkI vartamAn vedanamen to use aisA kuchh.. usakI dRuDhatAmen nyUnatA nahIn hai. vah to usakI avagADhatAmen pharka hai. kShAyikakA avagADh aur yah kShayopasham hai. chAritradashAmen muni visheSh hai.

kShayopasham arthAt usakI pratItamen kuchh use pragaTarUpase halachal nahIn hai, aisI asthiratA nahIn hai. vah to dRuDharUp hai. gnAyakakI dhArA joradAr hai aur chhaThave-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate hain. chAritrakI apekShAse muni visheSh hai.

mumukShu- dRuShTikI apekShAse to kShAyik samakit hua.

samAdhAna- use kShAyikakI apekShAse kahanemen Aye, parantu vartamAn to usakI chAritradashAkI nirmalatA hai na. gnAn, darshan, chAritrakI visheShatA hai yAnI muni visheSh kahalAye. dRuShTikI apekShAse alag bAt hai. dRuShTi yAnI unhen dRuShTi viparIt to nahIn hai. muni samyagdRuShTi hai aur chAritrakI nirmalatA hai. munikI dRuShTikI apekShAse alag bAt hai. dRuShTikI avagADhatAmen pharka hai. muni Age baDhe, chAritradashA baDh jAy to use dRuShTi bhI joradAr ho jAtI hai. chAritradashAmen muni visheSh hain. dRuShTikI apekShAse unhen... dRuShTikA pharka hai.

mumukShu- chAritramen itane Age baDhe aur dRuShTimen kShAyik na kar sake usakA kyA kAraN?

samAdhAna- vah to pariNAm par hai. pariNAmakI gati anek jAtakI hotI hai. akAraN pAriNAmik dravya, anek jAtake pariNAmakI gati hai. chAritrakI apekShAse muni visheSh hai. gnAn, darshan, chAritra tInon ArAdhya hain, isaliye muni visheSh hain. chAritrakI dashA visheSh pragaT huyI hai. pariNAmakI gati anek jAtakI hotI hai, puruShArthakI gati.

kShAyik samyagdRuShTi gRuhasthAshramamen ho, rAjakAjamen ho aur muniko kShayopasham ho to bhI muni hain. munikA sab Adar karate hain. puruShArthakI vahAn ...

mumukShu- dRuShTi .. karanekA puruShArtha na kare?

samAdhAna- kare, ve to sarva prakArakA puruShArtha karate hain. kShayopashamakA artha usamen aisI koI malinatA nahIn hotI. unakA kShayopasham bhI dRuDh hotA hai. chAritrakI gati visheSh baDh gayI hai. sahajarUpase ve to sab karate hI hain. dRuShTi usakI nirmal ho hI jAyagI. vartamAn unakI chAritrakI bhUmikA visheSh hai. anek prakAr hote hain. .. dhArA ho to use kShAyik ho hI jAyagA. kShaN-kShaNamen bAhar Aye aur antaramen jAya. ...

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- nahIn karatA hai kyA, usamen use puruShArtha to hotA hI hai. kahA na, pariNAmakI gati hI aisI hai. vah use koI ... ek dRuShTikA bal aur chAritra, sAdhanAke

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puruShArthamen sab puruShArtha hotA hai. sarva guNAnsh so samyagdarshana. samyagdarshan pragaT huA to sarva guNonke ansh shuddha hote hain. ek dRuShTikA bal hai aur chAritrakI dashA hai. sarva prakArakA puruShArtha hotA hai. pAriNAmik dravya hai. puruShArthakI gati anek prakArakI hotI hai.

mumukShu- ... to usamen nayA puruShArtha karanA hotA hai?

samAdhAna- usamen puruShArthakA nimitta hotA hai. jo honA hotA hai vah hotA hai, aisA ekAnta nahIn hai. usamen svabhAv, kAl, puruShArtha sab sAthamen hotA hai. usamen puruShArthakA nimitta hotA hai. paryAy pragaT hotI hai, parantu usamen puruShArtha sAthamen hotA hai. puruShArtha binA koI paryAy pragaT nahIn hotI. svabhAv, kAl, puruShArtha Adi sab hotA hai.

mumukShu- bhAvanA aur vaisI dhAraNAmen kyA antar hai?

samAdhAna- dhAraNAmen to dhokh rakhA hai. bhAvanA to antaramen svayam bhAvapUrvak karatA hai. bhAvanA bhAvanAmen bhI pharka hotA hai. bhAvanA karatA rahe ki main trikAl shuddha hUn, usamen antaramen gaharAImense jo bhAvanA huyI ho vah alag hotI hai. main trikAl shuddha hUn, shuddha hUn, aisI bhAvanA.. gaharI antargat bhAvanA alag hotI hai. dhAraNAmen to raTTA lagAtA rahe vah dhAraNA hai.

mumukShu- bArambAr usI prakArake vichAr, vikalpa chale vah bhAvanA nahIn hai?

samAdhAna- vichAr chale aise nahIn, parantu use antaramense gaharAIse honA chAhiye, vah bhAvanA (hai). mAtra raTatA rahe ki main trikAl shuddha, shuddha aise vikalpa karatA rahe aisA nahIn. bhAvanAmen bhI vichAr to Ate hain. parantu antaramen hRudayakA bhed hokar AnA chAhiye. bhAvanAkA matalab vah hai. gaharAImense (honA chAhiye ki), mujhe yah vibhAv nahIn chAhiye, main to AtmA hUn, trikAl shuddha AtmA svayamsiddha gnAyak hUn, aise antarase gaharAImense hRudayakA bhed hokar AnA chAhiye. antaramense gaharAImense (honA chAhiye).

mumukShu- ... tab aisA hotA hai ki vikalpa ... andarase kuchh-kuchh hotA hai, aisA bhI dikhatA hai.

samAdhAna- .. usImen Ananda hai, sab usamen hai. usamen dRuShTiko sthApit karake vahI karane jaisA hai. jitanA yah gnAn hai, utanA hI paramArtha kalyAN hai, aisA samayasAramen AtA hai. jitanA yah gnAn hai utanA hI paramArtha kalyAN, utanA hI satya hai, vahI karane jaisA hai. usamen tU prIti kar, usamen to anubhav kar, usamen tU prItivant ban, usamense uttam sukh pragaT hogA. sab usImen hai. vahI karanekA hai.

mumukShu- Apake AshIrvAdase, ApakI kRupAse Age..

samAdhAna- apUrva AtmA hai. dev-guru-shAstra... gurudevane vah sab pragaT kiyA, bhagavAnane pUrNa pragaT kiyA, gurune sAdhanA (karate hain), shAstra sab batAte hain. aur vANImen

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shAstrako kaun pahachAnatA thA? gurune sab batAyA hai.

mumukShu- kuchh nahIn, ham to kahAn paDe the.

samAdhAna- us mArga par ab to svayamko puruShArtha karanA bAkI rahatA hai. satya to vah hai. mUl mArga ek hI hai. bhedagnAn karake chaitanyadravya par dRuShTi sthApit karanA. jo ananta guN hain use lakShyamen rakhakar, usamen paryAy hotI hai vah lakShyamen, gnAnamen lekar dRuShTi ek abhed chaitanya par sthApit karane jaisI hai. main yah chaitanya hUn, chaitanya hUn. sab vikalpake bhed, vikalparUp main nahIn hUn. main usase bhinna hUn. vikalpa Aye lekin main usakA jAnanevAlA hUn. gnAn sab karanA parantu dRuShTi ek chaitanya par sthApit karanI hai.

mumukShu- ApakI kRupA hai, parantu merI kachAs hai.

samAdhAna- .. sAthamen rakhakar AtmAkA bhedagnAn karanA. "bhedavignAnata siddhA siddhA ye kil kechana.' jo siddha huen bhedavignAnase hI hue hain aur vahI karanekA hai. ek dravya par dRuShTi, ek gnAyak... 6ThThI gAthA, "nahin apramatta pramatta nahin, jo ek gnAyakabhAv hai'. ek gnAyakabhAvako pahachAnanA. paryAyake bhedamen bhI ek gnAyakako pahachAnanA.

ek hI mArga batAyA hai. sabamen ek gnAyakako pahachAnanA. chaitanya, is sharIrase bhinna andar vikalpa hai vah AtmAkA svabhAv nahIn hai. usase bhinna AtmAko pahachAnanA. AtmA andar ek chaitanyatattva hai. yah sharIr to ek jaDatattva hai. andar AtmA chaitanya hai. antar dRuShTi, gaharI dRuShTi karake use kaise pahachAnanA? vahI karanekA hai. usakI mahimA, usakI lagan, jIvanamen vahI karane jaisA hai. bAkI bAharakA to sab ananta kAlamen bahut bAr kiyA hai. yah janma-maraN karate hue manuShyabhav baDI mushkilase milakatA hai. usamen antaramense svabhAv pragaT ho, aisA mArga gurudevane batAyA. karane jaisA vah hai. usakI kaise pahachAn ho? usake liye gurudev kyA kahate hain? gurudevane kyA mArga batAyA hai? usake liye dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA kyon hai? AtmAko pahachAnaneke liye. ek gnAyak AtmA kaise pahachAnA jAy?

vah koI apUrva aur anupam vastu hai. ananta kAlamen jIvako sab prApta ho chUkA hai. parantu ek chaitanyatattva, ek svAnubhUti-AtmAkI svAnubhUti pragaT nahIn kI. vah kaise pragaT ho? usake liye us prakArake vichAr, vAnchan, mahimA vah karane jaisA hai. usakA bhedagnAn karake antar dRuShTi karake dekhe to antar AtmA chaitanya ananta guNase bharA anupam tattva hai. is jagatakI koI vastu anupam nahIn hai, ek AtmA hI anupam hai. devalokake dev bhI anupam nahIn hai. vah ek bhav hai. vah to pudagal hai. vah pudagal karmakA phal hai. AtmA aisA anupam hai, use pahachAne to bhavakA abhAv ho.

jaise siddha bhagavAn hain, vaisA AtmA hai. siddha bhagavAn jaisA antaramen ansh (pragaT

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hotA hai). antaramen yadi svAnubhUti ho to aisA sukh use prApta hotA hai. vikalpa TUTakar aur nirvikalpa tattva AtmA koI apUrva hai, usakI svAnubhUti pragaT ho, aisA vah AtmA hai. lekin usakI shurUAt usakA bhedagnAn kare, main gnAtA hUn, main chaitanya hUn. aise usakA svabhAv pahachAne, usakI ruchi kare, mahimA kare to ho sake aisA hai. usakA vAnchan, vichAr sab karane jaisA hai. to vah prApta ho.

mumukShu- sUjh paDe to jaldI prApta ho. vah chAbI kyA hai?

samAdhAna- andar svabhAv, main kaun svabhAv aur ye vibhAv kyA hai? usakI use barAbar pahachAn honI chAhiye ki ye jo jAnanevAlA hai, vahI main hUn, main yah nahIn hUn. jitane vibhAv Aye, jitane Unche bhAv Aye vah bhI vikalpa hai. us vikalpase bhI main bhinna gnAyak hUn. sab bhAv bIchamen Ate hain, kahIn vItarAg nahIn ho gayA hai, Aye parantu merA svabhAv usase bhinna hai. aise svabhAvako barAbar pahachAne, vah usakI chAbI hai. barAbar usakI sUkShma dRuShTi karake pragnAchhainI, andar sUkShma pragnAchhainI dvArA use bhinna kare, vah usakI chAbI hai. pragnAchhainI andarase pragaT karanI hai. pragnAchhainI bhinna paDatA hai.

mumukShu- gnAnase gnAn bhinna paDatA hai?

samAdhAna- gnAnase gnAn bhinna paDe. yathArtha gnAna. gnAyak AtmA use bhinna paDatA hai. gnAnase gnAn bhinna paDatA hai. usamen usakI pratIt, gnAn aur AcharaN sab usamen samA jAte hain. ek dRuShTi yathArtha AtmA par use pahachAnakar sthApit karanA. usamen gnAnase gnAn bhinna paDA. usamen usakA Anshik AcharaN A gayA. phir chAritradashA to...

mumukShu- gnAnamen AtA hai, lekin vishvAs nahIn AtA hai. vishvAs..

samAdhAna- gnAnamen Aye lekin pratIti aisI yathArtha honI chAhiye ki yah gnAyak hai vahI main hUn, bas, main anya kuchh nahIn. aisI dRuDh shraddhA, aisI dRuShTi svayam par sathApit karake, phir koI bhI bhAv Aye to bhI main to chaitanya hI hUn, aisA antaramense honA chAhiye. ek dhokhanerUp ho vah alag bAt hai, parantu antaramense (honA chAhiye). raTe vah to ek bhAvanA hai. antaramense ho, aisA dRuDh vishvAs AnA chAhiye. pratIt, yathArtha pratIt ho to usakA yathArtha puruShArtha hue binA nahIn rahatA.

mumukShu- yathArtha pahachAn ho to yathArtha puruShArtha chale?

samAdhAna- hAn, yathArtha puruShArtha ho, yathArtha pahachAn ho to.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! Aj..

samAdhAna- yathArtha ulajhan ho to use mArga prApta hue binA rahe hI nahIn. vah to vastukA svarUp hai. jo ulajhanamen AyA hai, vah use Tik nahIn sakatA. mujhe kahAn jAnA hai? mujhe antaramen jAnA hai, usakI ulajhan hai. ye vikalpakI jAlamen ulajhA

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huA, jise shAnti nahIn hai, ashAnti hai vah kShaNabhar bhI Tik nahIn pAtA. aisI jise andarase ulajhan ho ki ye vikalpa ab chAhiye hI nahIn, vikalpakI jAlamen ulajhA huA, vibhAvakI AkulatAmen ulajh gayA hai, andarase yathArtharUpase ulajhA ho, vyagratA ho to usamen Tik nahIn pAye. to apanI or usakI pariNati muDe binA rahe hI nahIn. gnAyakako pahachAne binA rahe hI nahIn. gnAyakako grahaN kiye binA rahe hI nahIn, gnAyakakA sharaN liye binA rahe hI nahIn, yadi yathArtha ulajhA ho to.

yathArtharUpase ulajhA huA manuShya kisIkA bhI AdhAr lenA jAtA hai. vaise ye andarase ulajhanamen AyA huA nij svarUpakA AdhAr liye binA rahatA hI nahIn. vah nij svabhAvako grahaN kar hI letA hai. isaliye yadi yathArtha ulajhanamen Aye aur yathArtha jignAsA jAgRut ho to svabhAvakA AdhAr vah antaramense liye binA rahatA hI nahIn. svabhAvako pahachAn letA hai.

mumukShu- bhAvanA-bhAvanAmen bahut antar hotA hai. ek bhAvanA aisI hai ki jo antarabhed kar detI hai. Apane yah antim bAt kahI thI.

samAdhAna- bhAvanA aisI ho ko antaramen bhedagnAn hokar hI chhUTakArA ho. aisI bhAvanA ugra hotI hai. dUsarI to manda-manda bhAvanA, Upar-Uparase bhAvanA, manda-manda puruShArtha rahA kare, vah bhAvanA nahIn. parantu antarabhed kare arthAt antarase bhedagnAn kar de, aisI bhAvanA to koI alag hotI hai ki andarase chaitanya chaitanyake mArga par use pariNati pragaT ho aur vibhAv pariNatiko bhinna karatA hai.

vibhAv pariNati bhale ho, chaitanyakI alpatA, nyUnatAke kAraN hotI hai. parantu vah bhedagnAn karatA hai ki main to chaitanya hUn. yah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. isaliye chaitanyakI or pariNati dauD jAtI hai aur apane svabhAvako grahaN kar letI hai. vah antarabhed kar detI hai.

mumukShu- aur Apake vachanAmRutamen aisA bhI AtA hai ki Upar-Uparase kar, parantu chAhe jaisai us mArga par jA.

samAdhAna- hAn, us mArga par jA. antaramen terA lakShya, bhAvanA aisI rakh ki gaharAImen jAne jaisA hai. karanA gaharAImen hai, abhI bahut nyUnatA hai, aisA tU nakkI kar ki mujhamen nyUnatA hai. parantu lakShya gaharAIse (karanA hai). parantu Uparase ho to usako chhoD nahIn denA. aur ashubhamen Aneko nahIn kahate hain. parantu tujhe tIsarI bhUmikAmen Aneko kahate hain. ham Upar-Upar jAneko kahate hain, vahAn tU nIche kyon gir rahA haiai? aisA AchAryadev kahate hain.

hamAre kahanekA Ashay yah hai ki tU tIsarI shuddha svabhAvakI bhUmikA pragaT kara.

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shubh to bIchamen AtA hai, parantu shubh terA svabhAv nahIn hai. vah shubh evan ashubh samAn koTike hain, aisA tU samajha. aur AtmA tIsarI bhUmikA amRutakumbha hai use grahaN kara. isaliye Upar jAneko kahate hain. ata Upar-Uparase terI bhAvanA ho to use chhoDaneko nahIn kahate hain, parantu gaharI bhAvanA pragaT kara. shuddha svabhAvamen jA sake aisI bhAvanA pragaT kara.

isaliye use chhoDakar phir ashubhamen jAnA, Upar-UparakI bhAvanA Aye to vah bhAvanA koI kAmakI nahIn hai, aisA kahakar chhoDaneko nahIn kahate hain, parantu tU UnchI (bhAvanA) pragaT kar, UnchI pariNatiko pragaT kara. aisA kahanekA Ashay hai. bhagavAnake mandiramen darshan karatA huA, bhagavAnake mandir par Tahel lagAtA huA, Tahel lagAte hue yadi bhagavAnake dvArA na khUle to thakakar vApas mat AnA, bhagavAnake dvAr khUl jAyenge. tU Tahel lagAnA chhoDanA mata.

chaitanya-mandiramen tU Tahel lagA, main chaitanya hUn, aisA Upar-Uparase tujhe samajhamen Aye to use chhoDanA mata. vah chhoDanA mat, yadi tujhe pahachAn na ho to. pahachAn nahIn ho tabatak vahAn Tahel lagAte hI rahanA. usamen lakShya rakhanA ki mujhe abhI bahut Age jAnA hai. to terA paruShArtha uThane par chaitanya-mandir khulanekA tujhe avakAsh hai. tU dUr jAyagA to UlaTA dUr chalA jAyagA.

bhagavAnake mandirase tU dUr jAyagA to UlaTA dUr chalA jAyagA. isaliye dRuShTi barAbar rakhanA ki abhI mujhe andar jAnekA hai. Upar-UparakI bhAvanAse pragaT nahIn hotA, parantu andarakI bhAvanA pragaT karaneke liye tU samajhanA ki yah UparakA hai. abhI andarakA karanekA mujhe bAkI hai. aise gnAn yathArtha karanA, to Age baDh sakegA. gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn, aisA Upar-Uparase ho to bhI antaramen jAnA hai, vah bhAvanA mat chhoDanA. use chhoDaneko nahIn kahate hain.

andarakI bhAvanA aisI Aye ki bhedagnAn ho jAy, antarabhed kar de, chaitanya-mandirake dvArA kholakar chaitanya bhagavAn pragaT ho, vah bhAvanA alag hotI hai. parantU tU bhAvanA dRuDh karanA to kabhI terA puruShArtha ugra hogA to andar jA sakegA. isaliye vah dvAr chhoDakar ashubhamen jAneko nahIn kahate hain. shubhamen khaDAhai, lekin dRuShTi shuddha par rakhanA.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! kahA thA na ki,

samAdhAna- vah to apanI mandatA dekhakar pahachAn sake, ye manda-manda chalatA hai, ugratA nahIn ho rahI hai isaliye ugratAkI kShati hai. manda-manda, manda-manda chale. dhIrI gatise chalanevAleko der lagatI hai. jise ugratA ho, vah tvArAse pahunch jAtA hai. dhIrI gatise chalanevAlA vahAn khaDe rahakar chale to kaise pahunche? use khyAl Aye ki main nahIn

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pahunch pAtA hUn, isaliye merI gati dhIrI hai. main jahAn khaDA hUn, vahIn khaDA hUn, Age nahIn baDh rahA hUn. bhAvanagar jAnA ho to dhIrI gatise chale. aur chale bhI nahIn aur khaDA rahe to pahunchanemen der lage. tvarit gatise chalanevAlA ekadam pahunch jAtA hai. nahIn pahunchatA hai vah, ye sUchit karatA hai ki dhIrI gati hai. Upar-Uparase hai. andarase pragaT ho to pahunch jAya.

mumukShu- apanA jor to ...

samAdhAna- svayamko hI karanA hai, puruShArtha to svayamko hI karanA hai, koI karavAtA nahIn. rakhaDanevAlA bhI svayam aur mokSha karanevAlA svayam svatantra hai.

chattArI mangalan, arihantA mangalan, sAhU mangalan, kevalipaNatto dhammo mangalan. chattArI loguttamA, arihantA loguttamA, siddhA loguttamA, sAhU loguttamA, kevalipaNatto dhammo loguttamA.

chattArI sharaNan pavajjAmi, arihantA sharaNan pavajjAmi, siddhA sharaNan pavajjAmi, kevalI paNatto dhammo sharaNan pavajjAmi.

chAr sharaN, chAr mangal, chAr uttam kare je, bhavasAgarathI tare te sakaL karmano ANe anta. mokSha taNA sukh le anant, bhAv dharIne je guN gAye, te jIv tarIne muktie jAya. sansAramAnhI sharaN chAr, avar sharaN nahIn koI. je nar-nArI Adare tene akShay avichal pad hoya. angUThe amRut varase labdhi taNA bhaNDAra. guru gautamane samarIe to sadAy manavAnchhit phal dAtA.