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mumukShu- anubhUtike pahale kaise...?

samAdhAna- anubhUtike pahale to usakI us jAtakI lagan, us prakArakI chaTapaTI ho, lagan ho, gnAyakako grahaN karane orakI usakI pariNati ho. yah gnAyak hI hai, anya kuchh main nahIn hUn. aisA gnAyak orakA nishchay dRuDh karanA chAhiye. bhedagnAnakI pariNati dRuDh karanI chAhiye. ye sab main nahIn hUn, main to chaitanya hUn. apanA svabhAv antaramense grahaN honA chAhiye. svabhAvako grahaN kare, bArambAr-bArambAr chaitanyakI dhUn lage, chaitanyake alAvA kahIn ruche nahIn. ek chaitanyamay jIvan kaise ho jAy, aisI apanI dRuDh pariNati us orakI honI chAhiye. chaitanyakI hI dhUn laganI chAhiye. jAgate-sote chaitanya-chaitanya orakI pariNati hI jAgRut rahanI chAhiye.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- vibhAvakI or dukh aur svabhAvakA grahaN, donon sAthamen (hote hain). svabhAvako grahaN karanekA prayatna (honA chAhiye). svabhAvamen hI sarvasva hai, aisA nishchaya. svabhAv grahaN karanekI usakI pratIti joradAr honI chAhiye aur vibhAvakI or dukh lage, donon sAthamen hote hain.

mumukShu- sabhI AtmAonko isI prakArakI vidhi, vibhAv pariNatamen dukh lage aur svabhAv or muDe?

samAdhAna- svabhAv grahaN karanekI pariNati. nij svabhAv orakA nishchay aur vibhAvamen dukh lage. vibhAv to AkulatArUp hI hai, svayamko AkulatA lagatI nahIn hai. usakA svarUp pahachAne ki ye to AkulatA hI hai. svabhAv hai vahI shAntirUp hai. aisA nishchay svayamko honA chAhiye. vibhAv or usakI pariNati Tik na sake, antarakI or antaramen hI sukh hai. vibhAv hotA hai, parantu usakI ekatvabuddhiko toDatA jAtA hai, svabhAvakI or muDatA jAtA hai.

mumukShu- atIndriy AnandakA svAd Ane pUrva use shubhabhAvarUp pariNatimen use AkulatAkA vedan hotA hai?

samAdhAna- shubhabhAvakI pariNati hotI to hai, parantu yah merA svabhAv nahIn hai,

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aisA use nishchay hotA hai. use AkulatA to lagatI hai. ye sab merA svabhAv nahIn hai. sabamen AkulatA hai to AkulatA hI lagatI hai.

mumukShu- yuktise AkulatAkA vedan lage yA vAstavamen manda kaShAyamen bhI AkulatAkA (vedan hotA hai)?

samAdhAna- nahIn, yuktise grahaN kare lekin use vedanamen bhI aisA lage ki yah AkulatA hai. usamense chhUT nahIn sakatA hai, parantu use vedanamen lage ki ye AkulatA hai.

mumukShu- mandamen manda kaShAy ho to bhI use us prakArakA vedan hotA hai?

samAdhAna- hAn, vah AkulatA hai. .. kiyA ki yah AkulatA hai aur yah svabhAv hai. aisA nishchay kiyA utanA hI nahIn, apitu use andar vedanamen bhI lagatA hai ki yah AkulatA hai.

mumukShu- khaTakakA bhI vahI prakAr, AkulatAkA vedan hotA hai isaliye khaTak rahA kare.

samAdhAna- khaTak rahA kare ki yah AkulatA hai. lekin vah bIchamen Aye binA nahIn rahatA. abhI shuddhAtmAkA svarUp pragaT nahIn huA hai, vahAn bIchamen AtA hai. abhI pUrNatA nahIn hai, bhale bhedagnAnakI pariNati chAlU ho to bhI bIchamen shubhabhAv Ate hain. parantu vah samajhatA hai ki AkulatA hai. AkulatA AkulatArUp vedanamen AtI hai, svabhAv svabhAvarUp vedanamen AtA hai.

mumukShu- prashna to itanA hotA hai ki sAdhakako to vaisA honA barAbar hai, kyonki unhonne to atIndriy AnandakA svAd chakhA hai, isaliye AkulatA pratyakSha lage. parantu usake pahale bhI mithyAdRuShTikI bhUmikAmen bhI manda kaShAyamen bhI vedanamen AkulatA lagatI hai.

samAdhAna- use lage. khaTakakI tIvratA ho jAy to use lage ki yah AkulatA hai. nakkI karatA hai. vah pragaT nahIn huA hai to vah antaramen amuk prakArakA vedan pahachAnakar nakkI kare to apanese nakkI kiyA aisA kah sakate hain. ye abhI vedanamen AtA hai, ye sab pravRuttirUp bhAv AkulatArUp hai. ye gnAn hai vah shAntirUp hai. amuk prakArase vah yuktimen letA hai, apane vedan parase nakkI kare to usane kuchh yathArtha nakkI kiyA kahanemen Aye. Upar-Uparase nakkI kare vah yathArtharUpase nakkI nahIn huA hai.

svayam apanA svabhAvako pahachAnakar, apanA vedan antarase pahachAnakar nakkI kare to usane kuchh yathArtha nakkI kiyA hai. isaliye use vedanamen AtA hai ki yah AkulatA hai, yah svabhAv gnAn hai vah shAntirUp hai. lekin vah usase chhUT nahIn sakatA hai, bhedagnAn nahIn hotA hai, parantu vah amuk prakArase nishchay to kar sakatA hai. usake

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svayamke vedanamen bhI gnAt ho sake aisA hai ki ye AkulatA hai, ye shAnti hai, gnAn hai. gnAyakatA hai vah shAnti hai. aise.

mumukShu- gnAnI dharmAtmAko-bhagavAnako kaisA sukh hogA, vah bhI nakkI ho sakatA hai? vedanase, anumAnase.

samAdhAna- vedanase nakkI nahIn (kar sakatA), parantu vah anumAnase nakkI kar sakatA hai. sukh kaisA ho? us sukhakA vedan svayamko nahIn hai.

mumukShu- svayamko dukhakA vedan hai, isase virUddha..

samAdhAna- isase virUddha sukh (hai), vah anumAnase nakkI kar sake. AkulatAse virUddha nirAkulatA, utanA vah nakkI kare. parantu vah Ananda guNako nakkI karanA vah anumAnase nakkI kar sake. AnandaguN use kahIn vedanamen nahIn AtA hai. anumAnase amuk pramAN parase vah nakkI kar sakatA hai. yuktise, svabhAvase amuk nakkI kar sakatA hai. usake vedanamen nahIn AtA hai.

mumukShu- AkulatAkA to vedan hotA hai, isaliye gnAnakI sUkShmatA hone par use pakaDamen AtA hai.

samAdhAna- use pakaDamen AtA hai. sukh pakaDamen Aye ki nirAkulatA vah sukh, AkulatA vah dukha. parantu AnandaguN hai vah use anumAnase, amuk pramAN parase nakkI kare. jIv Anandako ichchhatA hai, isaliye AtmAmen aisA koI AnandaguN hai ki jisakI vah ichchhA karatA hai vah milatA nahIn hai. AtmAmen aisA AnandaguNakA svabhAv hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! andar jo shubhAshubh bhAv hote hain, vah to ..

samAdhAna- bhAv jo hote hain use samajhakar, vah bhAv hai vah AkulatAkA vedan hai. andar jAnanevAlA hai vah bhinna hai. shubhAshubh bhAvonko jAnanevAlA bhinna hai aur shubhAshubh bhAv bhinna hai. vedan hotA hai vah to AkulatArUp hai. usase bhinna main chaitanya hUn, use jAnanevAlA bhinna hai.

mumukShu- khyAlamen AtA hai na ki ye bhAv huA, yah bhAv huA. jo bhAv hote hain vah pakaDamen Ate hain ki aise bhAv hue. jise mAlUm paDatA hai vah main hUn, aise?

samAdhAna- hAn, vah jo mAlUm paDatA hai vah main hUn. parantu vah mAlUm paDatA hai vah usakI paryAy hai, mUl tattvako grahaN karanekA hai. jo mAlUm paDatA hai vah barAbar, mAlUm paDatA hai vah gnAnakI paryAy hai. jo ye shubhAshubh bhAv hote hain ki yah bhAv AyA, yah bhAv AyA, yah bhAv AyA. vah sab gnAnakI paryAy hai. parantu usamen mUl vastu jo anAdiananta hai vah gnAyak paripUrNa hai. ek-ek vastuko jAne,

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ek-ek vikalpako jAnanevAlA paryAyen huyI, parantu main ek akhaNDa gnAyak shAshvat hUn. aise akhaNDa dravyako grahaN karanA. jo mAlUm paDatA hai, us parase usakA pUrNa astitva grahaN karanA.

muumukShu- jo mAlUm paDatA hai vah padArtha main hUn. samAdhAna- hAn, jo mAlUm paD rahA hai, vah padArtha main hUn. jo khabar karanevAlA hai vah mUl vastu anAdiananta svatasiddha main hUn. jo shubhAshubh bhAvonko jAnanevAlA hai, vah khabar karanevAlA hai, usakA jo mUl shAshvat astitva hai vah main hUn. vah astitva pUrNa gnAyak hai. us gnAyakamen ananta shaktiyAn bharI haiain.

mumukShu- mAlUm paDanemen astitva mAlUm paDatA hai, bAkI dUsare guN itane mAlUm nahIn paDate haiain ki dUsare-dUsare guN hai, usakA utanA khyAl nahIn AtA hai. mAlUm paDatA hai isaliye .. gnAt hotA hai. parantu dUsare bhI ananta guN hain, vah mAlUm nahIn paDate.

samAdhAna- vah dikhAI nahIn dete haiain. parantu jo shaktivAn padArtha hai, jo gnAyak hai vah ananta shaktise bharapUr ho. jo dravya ho vah khAlI nahIn hotA, usamen ananta guN hI hote hain. dravya usakA nAm kahen ki jisamen ananta shaktiyAn ho. jisamen amaryAdit vastu hai, chAhe jitanA pariName to bhI khatma na ho, aisI anantatAse bharA dravya hai. phir usake yukti, pramANase nakkI hotA hai.

mumukShu- shAntikA to khyAl AtA hai ki jab andar jAte hain tab sukh lagatA hai, bAharamen .. utanA mAlUm paDatA hai. shAnti mAlUm paDatI hai ki andar jAte hain to thoDI..

samAdhAna- shAnti lagatI hai. ananta guN to dikhAI nahIn dete, parantu vah ananta shaktivAn padArtha hai. jisamense jo ananta paryAy (hotI hai). gnAn hai vah adhUrA nahIn hotA. jo svata gnAn, svayam svatasiddha vastu hai, vah vastu anAdiananta hai. us gnAnakI koI maryAdA nahIn hotI. aisA gnAn amaryAdit hai. isaliye amaryAdit gnAn ho vah ananta shaktise bharA huA gnAn hai. aise usamen astitva, vastutva Adi ananta guN hain. vaise usamen AnandaguN hai. vah bhI anantAse bharA hai. is tarah dravya ananta-ananta shaktionse bharA hai. vah dikhatA nahIn hai, vedanamen nahIn AtA hai, parantu usakA anumAn ho sakatA hai. aur vah yukti aisI hotI hai ki yathArtha hotI hai. vah svayam nakkI kar sakatA hai.

mumukShu- astitvakA bhI khyAl AtA hai ki merI maujUdagI hai. ... usakA khyAl Aye, astitvakA khyAl Aye.

samAdhAna- astitva, parantu vah astitva anantatAse bharA hai. aisA svayam nakkI

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kare to ho sakatA hai. AchAyAne yuktise, dalIlase (siddha kiyA hai). jo astitva ho vah adhUrA nahIn hotA. pUrNa ananta svabhAvase bharA hai.

samAdhAna- ... anAdiananta jaisA hai vaisA gnAyak hai. dRuShTi to aisI kara. usakI kRutakRutya dashA pUrNa paryAy pragaT ho tab ho. nahIn to anAdiananta.. dRuShTi to chaitanya par svayam jaisA hai vaisA hI hai. usamen koI pheraphAr nahIn huA hai. aise dravya par dRuShTi kara. svayam jAnanevAlA hai. sAdhakabhAv bhI vyavahAr hai. isaliye us prakArase svayam vibhAv kartA nahIn hai. adhUrI paryAy jitanA bhI svayam nahIn hai. adhUrI paryAyen hon, vah bhI apanA mUl svarUp nahIn hai. isaliye tU dravya par dRuShTi kara. kShayopashamabhAv aur upashamabhAv bhI adhUrI paryAyen hain. isaliye tU pUrNa par dRuShTi kara. tU jAnanevAlA gnAyak hai. Age- pIchhe mainne kuchh sunA nahIn hai, parantu usakA Ashay yah hai.

sAdhakabhAv bhI vyavahAr hai. dRuShTi to akhaNDa hotI hai. sAdhakabhAv bIchamen Aye binA rahatA nahIn. sAdhakabhAv vyavahAr hai. isaliye tU akhaNDa dravya par dRuShTi kara. vah akhaNDa hai usamen sAthamen puruShArtha A jAtA hai. puruShArtha usamen (hai). darshan, gnAn, chAritra vyavahAr paryAy to adhUrI hai, isaliye usamen puruShArtha to karanA hI hai, parantu tU vah sab kartAbuddhi chhoD de. tU gnAtA hai. vah kartAbuddhi chhoD de. to bhI puruShArtha to usamen karanekA rahatA hai.

nishchay aur vyavahAr donon jAnane yogya hai. dRuShTi ek chaitanya par rakha. AdaraNIy ek chaitanya hai. dRuShTike balase puruShArtha hotA hai. isaliye tU akhaNDa gnAyak hai. sAdhakabhAv vyavahAr hai. vah bIchamen Aye binA rahatA nahIn. tU koI bhI paryAy hai, us paryAyakA nishchay dRuShTise terA akartAsvabhAv hai, tere svabhAvakA kartA anAdiananta pAriNAmikabhAvase hai. aisA kahanA hai.

mumukShu- arthAt vahAn gnAyakakI dRuShTi karAneko....

samAdhAna- gnAyakakI dRuShTi karaneko. bandha-mokShake jo vikalpa Aye, vah vikalpa bhI shubhabhAv hai. vah bandha-mokShakI jo paryAy hain, vah paryAy bhI pragaT hotI hai mokShakI. isaliye tU paryAy par dRuShTi mat karanA. vah sAdhakabhAv bIchamen AtA hai. mokSha hai vah bhI ek paryAy hai. isaliye tU gnAyak jAnanevAlA hai, akhaNDa shuddhAtmA hai. aisA kahanA hai. paryAy jitanA hI terA svarUp nahIn hai. terA svarUp akhaNDa hai.

jo bAdamen pragaT hotA hai, terA mUl svarUp to anAdiananta hai. parantu usamen dravyadRuShTi kare to hI shuddha paryAy pragaT hotI hai. sAdhakabhAv to bIchamen AtA hai. sAdhakabhAv vyavahAr hai, aisA kahanA hai. sab adhUrI paryAy vyavahAr hai.

mumukShu- yAnI vahAnse lakShya chhuDAnA hai.

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samAdhAna- lakShya chhuDAte haiain. lakShya chhuDAkar akhaNDa dravya par dRuShTi karavAte hain. gnAn to sabakA (hotA hai). anAdiananta hai us par dRuShTi kar, aisA kahanA hai.

mumukShu- gurudevakI us par bahut prasannatA thI. isaliye lagA, gurudevakA jAnanepar bahut (vajan thA).

samAdhAna- tU sab jAn, tU kartA nahIn hai. jAn, gnAyak ho. sab jAna. adhUrI paryAy, pUrNa paryAy un sabakA tU jAnanevAlA gnAyak hai. tU sab jAna.

mumukShu- jAnanekI paryAyako bhI karanI nahIn hai, aise liyA. usakA jAnanevAlA hai, aise liyA. isaliye bahut..

samAdhAna- jAnanevAlI paryAyakA bhI tU jAnanevAlA hai. isaliye usamen vyavahAr nahIn hai, aisA kahanekA Ashay nahIn hai. parantu vastudRuShTi karavAnI hai. vastukA mUl svarUp batAte hain. isaliye vah paryAy AtmAmen nahIn hai, aisA nahIn. vah jAnanekI paryAy usamen hotI nahIn, aisA nahIn hai. vah sab vyavahAr hai, lekin tU dRuShTi... mUl vastukA svarUp batAte hain. akelA aisA ho to ye bandhake vibhAvabhAv hote hI nahIn. to akelI mokShakI paryAy ho. yadi aisA ho to ye jAnanekA svabhAv jo dikhatA hai, vah bhI... AtmA kuchh jAn sake nahIn. yadi jAnanekA svabhAv hI na ho to. vah sab jAnanekI paryAy hai. parantu tU dRuShTi tere svakI or kar, aisA kahanA hai.

terA svaparaprakAshak svabhAv hai, parantu dRuShTi tere dravya par kar, aisA kahanA hai. AchAryadev, gurudev sab ek hI bAt karate hain. dRuShTi tU shuddhAtmA par kara. paryAy usamen hotI hai, sAdhakadashA usamen hotI hai, svaparaprakAshak terA svabhAv hai. parantu dRuShTi tU parase haTAkar ek akhaNDa gnAyak pAriNAmikabhAv par kara. pAriNAmikabhAv arthAt ek bhAv par nahIn, lekin akhaNDa dravya par dRuShTi kara.

mumukShu- itanA tattva milA, ham hamase ho sake utanA prayatna, chintan, manthan sab karate bhI hain, parantu hamAre vyavahArik jIvanamen chalate-phirate, koI jUTh bolanekA bhAv, mAyAchArIke bhAv hote ho, athavA sAmanevAle jIvako dukh hogA aisA jAnanekI darakArakA bhAv na rahatA ho, vah sab to bAhya hai. to vah AtmasAdhanAmen kuchh avarodharUp ho yA pAtratAkI (kShati hai)?

samAdhAna- svayam samajh lenA ki kaise bhAv Ate hain. mumukShukI bhUmikAmen AtmArthakA prayojan mukhya (hotA hai). AtmArthIko na shobhe aise maryAdA toDakar aise vichAr AtmArthIko hote nahIn. aise kArya bhI AtmArthIko nahIn hote. jo AtmArthakA poShaN ho, AtmArthatAkI mukhyatA rahe aise bhAv AtmArthIko hote hain. apanI AtmArthatAkI maryAdA TUT jAy aise bhAv AtmArthIko hote nahIn. phir kaise Ate hain, usakA vichAr svayamko karanA rahatA

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hai. usamen kachAs ho to apanI pAtratA baDhAnI. AtmArthatAkA mukhya prayojan (honA chAhiye). AtmArthatAko koI hAni pahunche aisI maryAdA toDakar aise vichAr AtmArthIko hote nahIn.

mumukShu- .. jab mokShamen jAte hain, vahAn dharmAstikAy, adharmAstikAyakA ant A jAtA hai, vahAnse Age nahIn jA sakate. barAbar? dharmAstikAy jo gatimen udAsIn sahAyatArUp hotA hai, vahAn sthir ho jAneke bAd dharmAstikAy kaise madad karatA hai?

samAdhAna- vah to aisA hai ki jo chalate hue gatimAn ho use nimitta hotA hai. gatimAn na ho use nimitta hotA hai, aisA nahIn hai. jo gatimen ho use nimitta hotA hai. jo chalaneke bAd sthir ho use adharmAstikAy nimitta bane. gatimAnako dharmAstikAy nimitta hotA hai. aisA hotA hai. pratyek dravya svatantra hai. ...

mumukShu- vihAr karate haiain tab ek bhAI chhaTapaTAte hain, garmIkA din thA, chhaTapaTAtA hai aur kahatA hai ki bachAo, bachAo, bachAo, mujhe thoDA pAnI do. bhAvalingIke pAs kamanDalu upakaraN hotA hai, usamen pAnI thA. to unhen denA yogya hai yA ayogya hai? pAnI denA chAhiye ki nahIn denA chAhiye? vichitra prashna pUchh rahA hUn.

samAdhAna- bhAvalingI muni svayam to bhinna hokar svarUpamen lIn hokar basate hain. sarva prakArake vikalpa chhUT gaye hain. bhinna ho gaye hain. sarva kAyAse chhUT gaye hain. laukignak kAyAse chhUT gaye hain. aise kAyAmen unhen us prakArakA vikalpa nahIn AtA hai. unakA upayog bAhar nahIn hotA hai. us jAtake kAyAmen ve juDate nahIn. chhUT jAte hain. yathArtha munidashA chhaThaven-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate hain. aise kAyAse chhUT gaye hain. vah sab kArya gRuhasthonke hain. us kAryase chhUT gayA hai.

jisane yathArtha munipanA angIkAr kiyA, chhaThaven-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate hue, kevalagnAnakI talahaTI, kevalagnAn pUrNa kRutakRutya dashAkI talahaTImen khaDe hain, munidashA yAnI chhaThaven-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate munirAj hain. aise bAhya kAyAse chhUT gaye hain. aur us jAtakA vikalpa nahIn hotA hai, bhinna ho gaye hain.