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mumukShu- AtmAmen santoSh ho, aisI pratIti is jIvako kaise utpanna ho?

samAdhAna- AtmAmen santoSh ho, aisI pratIti AtmAmen hI sabakuchh hai, aisA svayam vichAr karake nirNay karanA chAhiye. usImen use mahimA laganI chAhiye. vibhAv hai usakI mahimA TUT jAy aur svabhAvakI mahimA Aye ki gnAnamen hI sarvasva hai. use vichArase, use yuktise nakkI karanA chAhiye ki gnAnamen sab hai. aisA gurudevane batAyA hai, shAstramen AtA hai, lekin tU vichArase svayamse nakkI kara.

svayam nakkI kar ki jo gurudevane batAyA, use buddhise, svabhAvako pahachAnakar nakkI kar ki ye jo gnAn dikhatA hai, us gnAnamen hI sab hai. aisA vichAr karake, usake kAraN-kAryase tU nakkI kar ki gnAnamen hI sab hai, kahIn aur nahIn hai. gnAnamen-se hI pragaT honevAlA hai. usakI yathArtha pratIti karanI apane hAthakI bAt hai. vichArase, kAraN- kAryakI yuktise, aisI usakI yukti aur dalIl ho ki TUTe nahIn, aisI yathArtha dalIlase, yuktise usakI barAbar pratIti kar aur usamen dRuDhatA kara. usImen hai.

kyonki pahale anubhUti nahIn hotI. pahale to vah nakkI karatA hai. vichArase, usake amuk lakShaN dikhe us lakShaNase nakkI karatA hai. nakkI kare ki usImen sab hai. vah gnAn rUkhA nahIn hai. parantu gnAnamen sab hai. gnAn mahimAvant hai, sukhase bharA shiv hai. sukhase bharA AtmA hai. ananta guNonse (bharapUr) koI apUrva anupam AtmA hai. bAhar kisIke sAth use mel nahIn hai. vah bhI svayamko lakShaNase nakkI karanA paDatA hai. guru batAye, shAstra batAye, lekin svayam nakkI kare to hI svayamko mahimA AtI hai. svayamko nakkI karanA hai.

samAdhAna- .. aisI bhAvanA karanese.

mumukShu- aisI bhAvanA karanese?

samAdhAna- bhAvanA kare ki main to jIv hUn. main to gnAyak chaitanyatattva hUn, yah sharIr merA nahIn hai, paradravya hai. usake dravya-guN-paryAy bhinna hain, mere bhinna hain. (donon) bhinna hain. aisA vichAr karanA. Upar-Uparase vikalpa Ave, phir chhUT jAya. bArambAr abhyAs karanA, bArambAr usakA abhyAs karanA. vah chhUT jAy to bhI bArambAr ruchi, mahimA

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sab karanA to yahI hai. yah merA svarUp hai, aisA bArambAr karanA. chhUT jAy to bhI vichAr karanA. aise vichAr karanese sthir na ho to shAstramen dekhanA, shAstra paDhanA. jahAn chitta sthir ho vahAn lagAnA.

mumukShu- kaun-se shAstrajIkA adhyayan karanA chAhiye? kaun-se shAstrajI paDhane chAhiye?

samAdhAna- shAstra jo samajhamen Aye. mUl bhedagnAn to samayasAr hI hai. samayasAr paDhanemen Ave, na samajhamen Ave to gurudevake pravachan-samayasAr par hue pravachan sune. bAkI mUl shAstra hai, niyamasAr, pravachanasAr, jo samajhamen vah paDhanA. aise adhyAtma shAstra, jisamen AtmAkI bAt AtI ho.

... mahA upakAr aur mahA pratAp hai. gurudevane sabako batAyA hai ki antar dRuShTi karanI. bAhya dRuShTi toDakar andar jAnA. antaramen hI muktikA mArga hai. svabhAvamen-se svabhAv pragaT hotA hai. vibhAv to AtmAkA svabhAv nahIn hai. usase bhinna karake svabhAv kaise pragaT ho? chaitanyatattva anAdiananta ek akhaNDa dravya par dRuShTi karake, main in sabase bhinna hUn. karanA yahI hai. dhyey vah hai. shubhabhAvamen dev-guru-shAstra aur antaramen shaddhAtmA kaise pahachAnamen Aye? is dhyeyase sab karanA hai. dhyey ek hI-chaitanyatattva kaise pragaT ho? usakI dRuShTi, usakA gnAn, usamen lInatA kaise ho? vah karanA hai. gurudevane mArga sUkShmatAse, chAron orase spaShTa karake batAy hai.

ye janma-maraN karate-karate,.. is panchamakAlamen gurudev padhAre, unakA janma huA, vah mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai ki sabako aisI apUrva vANI milI. aisI vANI milanI mushkil hai. chaitanya koI apUrva hai, yah unakI vANI batAtI thI ki AtmA koI alag hai. unhen antaramen-se aisI vANI AtI thI. vANIkA prabhAv aisA thA. unakI vANI koI atishayatApUrNa, unakA gnAn atishayatApUrNa, unakA AtmA vaisA thA. isaliye AtmA anupam hai aur vah koI apUrva hai, usImen apUrva sukh aur apUrva Ananda hai. vah pragaT karane jaisA hai.

sab log kahAn paDe the. gurudevane antar dRuShTi karavAyI, AtmAmen. puruShArtha svayamko karanA hai. bAkI dRuShTi to unhonne dI ki karanA antaramen hai, sab batAyA, dishA batAyI. ... atishay hai, is bhUmimen gurudev vichare hain, isaliye...

mumukShu- tapobhUmi hai yaha.

samAdhAna- tapobhUmi hai. gurudevane kitane sAl yahAn rahe hain. parivartan kiyA usake bAdase. phir vihAr kare vah alaga. bAkI hameshA to yahIn rahe na. pahale shurUAtamen to vihAr bhI kam karate the. pIchhale vaShAmen har sAl vihAr karate the. parantu hameshA to yahIn rahate. is panchamakAlamen...

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mumukShu- ... bahut jIv yahAn-se gaye, lekin kisIko vikalpa nahIn hai. svargamen gaye honge. to kisIko aisA vikalpa nahIn hai ki yahAn par bhagavAnakI vArtA karen, batAye. lekin ab hamAre manamen aisA kaI bAr vikalpa uThatA hai ki gurudev gaye...

samAdhAna- svayamko to prabhAvanAkA vikalpa thA, bAkI yahAnkA vikalpa AnA mushkil, yahAnke puNya ho to vikalpa Aye. .. bharatakShetramen the aur yahAn-se gaye. is panchamakAlamen aisA bananA bahut mushkil ho gayA hai. jahAn tIrthankar bhagavAn vichare, vahAn devonke samUh AtA hai. yahAn sab mushkil ho gayA hai.

mumukShu- mumukShujIvako mArgadarshan diyA gayA aur vah pariNatimen kaise upakArI hotA hai? paramArthamen vah kaise upakArI hotA hai, yah samajhAIye.

samAdhAna- dev-guru-shAstra, bhagavAn sarvotkRuShTa (hain). bhagavAnane sarvotkRuShTa dashA pragaT kI hai. jaisA bhagavAnakA AtmA hai, vaisA apanA AtmA hai. bhagavAnakA jo svarUp hai, jo bhagavAnane pragaT kiyA, vaisA hI apanemen shaktirUp hai. bhagavAnako pahachAnanese svayamko pahachAnatA hai. isaliye bhagavAnakA jo svarUp hai, vaisA apanA svarUp hai.

bhagavAn par bahumAn Anese chaitanyakA svarUp pahachAnamen AtA hai. aur guru to mArga batAte hain ki terA chaitanya svarUp hai. tU hI svayam chaitanya ananta guNase bharapUr hai. ve mArga batAte hain ki tU svAnubhUti pragaT kar, bhedagnAn pragaT kara. pUrA mArga guru batAte hain. aur shAstramen usakA varNan AtA hai. parantu shAstrako sUlajhAnevAle guru hain.

dev-guru-shAstrake prati jise bhakti hotI hai, (usamen) svayamko dhyey AtmAkA hotA hai ki jaisA merA AtmA, vaisA bhagavAnakA. bhagavAnakI pahachAn karavAnevAle guru hain. isaliye guru par jise bahumAn Aye, vah apane AtmAko pahachAne. devako pahachAne, vah apane AtmAko pahachAne. aur shrutakA jo svarUp hai, vah shrut to guru batAte hain. guru mArga batAte hain.

isaliye dev-guru-shAstra, usakI pariNatimen usake shubhabhAvamen unakI mahimA Aye binA nahIn rahatI. unakI mahimA jisake hRudayamen hotI hai, vah svayamko pahachAnatA hai. aur svayamko pahachAnatA hai, vah dev-guru-shAstrako pahachAnatA hai. aisA dev-guru-shAstrakA chaitanyake sAth sambandha hai. aur shrutakI pariNati to svayam Age baDhatA hai, vahAn shrutakI pariNati to sAthamen hotI hI hai. shreNI chaDhe to usamen dravya, guN, paryAy AdikA vichAr use hotA hai. abuddhipUrvak hote hain. parantu shrutakA chintavan to sAthamen (hotA hI hai). main chaitanya kaun? prathamase hI chaitanya kaun? merA svarUp kyA? vah sab samajhaneke liye shrutakI pariNati sAthamen hotI hai. parantu usakA yathArtha mArga darshAnevAle guru hai. shrutakI pariNati to jIvako andar vichAr usamen sAthamen hotI hI hai.

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isaliye dev, guru, shAstra usake shubh pariNAmamen bIchamen Aye binA rahate hI nahIn. aur dev-guru-shAstra AtmAko darshAte hain. aur jo AtmAko pahachAne, vah dev-guru- shAstrako pahachAne. dev-guru-shAstrako pahachAne vah AtmAko pahachAnatA hai. aisA sambandha hI hai. ata yathArtha gnAyakako pahachAne usamen dev-guru-shAstra sAthamenn hote hI hain. aur sAdhanA pragaT ho, usamen upayog bAhar Aye to use shubh pariNAmamen dev-guru-shAstra hote hain. aur antaramen jAy to shuddhAtmA (hai), shuddhAtmA par dRuShTi hotI hai. shuddhAtmAkI paryAy pragaT hotI hai, aur jahAn nyUnatA hai, us shubh bhAvanAmen use dev-guru-shAstra sAthamen hote hI haiain. isaliye sAdhanAke sAth dev-guru-shAstrakA sambandha sAthamen rahatA hI hai.

pratham jignAsAkI bhUmikAse dev-guru-shAstrakA sambandha jignAsuko shurUAtase hotA hI hai. aur jab pUrNa ho, tabatak dev-guru-shAstrake vikalpa use shubh bhAvanAmen hote hain. use shuddhAtmA... bhedagnAnake sAth, shubhabhAvake sAth dev-guru-shAstrakA aisA sambandha hotA hI hai. aur dev-guru-shAstra use is tarah upakArabhUt hain. dev-guru-shAstra usake shubh pariNAmamen Ate hain. puruShArthakI preraNA milatI hai. dev-guru-shAstrakI or lakShya jAnese anek jAtake vichAr (Ate hain). gurune kaisI sAdhanA kI? dev kaise hote hain? shAstramen kyA kahate hain? use puruShArthakI preraNA milatI hai. karatA hai svayam, parantu usamen preraNA milatI hai.

sAdhanAke sAth dev-guru-shAstrakA sambandha, aisA upAdAn-nimittakA sambandha hai. Akhir tak, jab shreNi chaDhatA hai, vahAn abuddhipUrvak dravya-guN-paryAyake vichAr use hote hain. shrutakA chintavan Akhir tak hotA hai. parantu karanA hai nirvikalpa upayog, shuddhAtmAkI svAnubhUti. usakI dRuShTi vahAn hotI hai. vah shubhabhAv, svayamkA-chaitanyakA-shuddhAtmakA-svarUp nahIn hai, parantu vah bIchamen Aye binA nahIn rahatA. aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai.

mumukShu- sAdhakakI bhUmikAmen to Apane kahA aisA mel ho rahA hai. use to dRuShTi yathArtha pragaT huyI hai, dRuShTine svarUpakA kabjA liyA hai isaliye shubharAg AtA hai, to use heyarUp jAnatA hai. parantu jignAsukI bhUmikAmen jo Apane bAt kahI ki jignAsukI bhUmikAmen donon sAthamen rahate hain, hamen to aisA lagatA hai ki dev-guru-shAstrako sAthamen rakhane jAte hain to anAdise vyavahArakA pakSha to hai, vyavahArakI ruchi to hai. usamen vyavahArakI ruchi ho jAnekI sambhAvanA hai? nahIn hotI?

samAdhAna- use dev-guru-shAstra ruchivAleko bIchamen Aye binA rahatA hI nahIn. mujhe merA svarUp kaise pahachAnamen Aye? mujhe guru kyA mArga darshAte hain? gurune kyA kahA hai? aise vichAr use Aye binA nahIn rahate. use vyavahArakA pakSha usamen nahIn hotA. parantu use bhAvanA aisI rahatI hai, use bhakti Aye binA rahatI hI nahIn. guru aisA

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kahate hain ki, tU tere shuddhAtmAko pahachAna. tU sarva shubhabhAvase bhinna terA shuddhAtmA hai, aisA guru kahate hain. parantu jignAsuko bhI shubhabhAv Aye binA nahIn rahate. usamen koI vyavahArakA pakSha nahIn ho jAtA. use vyavahArakA pakSha aise nahIn ho jAtA. usase lAbh mAne, usamen sarvasva mAne, usase mokSha mAne to usamen vyavahArapakSha hotA hai. bAkI shubhabhAv Aye usamen vyavahArakA pakSha nahIn ho jAtA. aisI usamen shraddhA nahIn ho jAtI. shubhabhAvanA Aye to aisI shraddhA nahIn ho jAtI ki isase mujhe lAbh hotA hai yA mokSha hotA hai. aisI shraddhA jignAsuko sAthamen ho jAy, aisA nahIn hotA.

use buddhipUrvak aisA nirNay hotA hai ki gurune kahA hai ki terA shuddhAtmA vikalpa rahit nirvikalpa hai. shubhabhAv bhI terA svarUp nahIn hai. gurune kahA. aur use vichArase aisA baiThA hai. isaliye usamen shraddhA nahIn ho jAtI hai ki shubhabhAv AyA isaliye usamen vyavahArakA pakSha ho gayA aur shraddhA aisI ho gayI. aisA nahIn hotA.

vyavahArakA pakSha kise ho jAtA hai? ki aisI shraddhA hai sAthamen ki isase mujhe lAbh hotA hai. dev-guru-shAstra mujhe kar dete haiain, ve kare aisA ho, mere puuruShArthase nahIn hotA, aisI jise mAnyatA hai, use vyavahArakA pakSha hotA hai. usakI shraddhA aisI ho ki main mere-se karungA tab hogA. guru mujhe upakArabhUt hain, gurune sab diyA hai. aisI shubhabhAvanA Aye usamen vyavahArakA pakSha nahIn ho jAtA. usakI shraddhA to bhinna rahatI hai. yathArtha shraddhAkI alag bAt hai, jo sahaj bhedagnAn aur shraddhA (hotI hai vah). parantu ye use jo buddhipUrvak shraddhA hai, usamen shraddhAkI bhUl nahIn hotI. gurukI bhakti kare usamen shraddhAkI bhUl nahIn hotI hai, usamen vyavahArakA pakSha nahIn ho jAtA. bhagavAnakI bhakti kare, gurukI kare, shAstrakI kare to usamen jignAsuko pakSha nahIn ho jAtA. usamen sarvasvatA mAne to hotA hai.

mumukShu- bahut sundar spaShTIkaraN Apane kiyA. mumukShu- shubhabhAvako hey samajhatA hai aur Aye binA rahe nahIn, aisA bhI samajhatA hai. donon bAt hotI hai.

samAdhAna- aisA samajhatA hai, donon samajhatA hai. use shraddhA hai ki shubhabhAv to hey hai. to bhI vah jignAsuko bhI Aye binA nahIn rahatA. shubhabhAv Aye isaliye shraddhAkI bhUl ho jAy, aisA kuchh nahIn hotA. shubhabhAvamen vah bhakti kare, isaliye use vyavahArakA pakSha ho gayA, aisA nahIn hai. usakI shraddhA to antaramen vah svayam jAnatA hai ki gurune aisA kahA hai ki shuddhAtmA terA bhinna hai, shubhabhAv terA svarUp nahIn hai aur svayamne bhI nakkI kiyA hai. isaliye usamen shraddhAkI bhUl nahIn hotI.

mumukShu- mahimA kare tab to aise kare ki Ap hI mere sarvasva ho.

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samAdhAna- hAn, aise mahimA kare. Ap sarvasva ho, Apane sab diyA hai. Ap yahAn padhAre, Apane mArga batAyA to ham jAgRut hue hain. Apane hI hamen puruShArtha karanA sIkhAyA hai, aisA bole. lekin vah samajhatA hai ki, karanA to mujhe hai. parantu gurukA param upakAr hai, aisA samajhatA hai ki yah dishA badalI ho to gurune badalI hai. upakArabuddhimen, usake shubhabhAvamen aisA AtA hI hai.

mumukShu- bahut sundar spaShTIkaraN kiyA. jignAsukI bhUmikAmen, us bhUmikAmen bhI shubhabhAv sAthamen hotA hai, vah Aye binA nahIn rahatA. yah spaShTIkaraN bahut sundar AyA. kisIko bhay lage ki usamen pakSha Akar aTak to nahIn jAyenge na?

samAdhAna- vyavahArakA pakSha hokar aTak nahIn jAtA. svayam shraddhAmen samajhatA hai, usamen aTakatA nahIn.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! Aj Tepamen 38vIn gAthA chalI thI. usamen aisA AyA thA, apratihat bhAvakI bAt usamen thI. aur gurudev bhI kabhI-kabhAr kahate the ki bahinashrIke jAtismaraNagnAnamen kShAyik joDaNIkI bAt AyI thI. to kRupA karake kShAyik joDaNIkA svarUp kyA hai athavA vah kise prApta hotA hai, us viShayamen kuchh spaShTa karen.

samAdhAna- joDaNI kShAyik to jo apratihat dhArA hotI hai, usamen pragaT hotA hai. vah to bahut Age gayA ho use. jisamen shuddhAtmAkI sAdhanAkI paryAy visheSh- visheSh apratihat dhArAse juDatI hai, use joDaNI kShAyik kahanemen AtA hai.

mumukShu- barAbar spaShTa nahIn huA, mAtAjI! phirase jyAdA spaShTa kariye to.... vartamAnamen is kAlamen to kShayopasham samakit hotA hai. amRutachandrAchAryadevakA pUrA dhvani aisA thA ki kShayopasham samakit giregA hI nahIn aur ham kShAyik lekar hI rahenge to gurudev apratihatabhAvakI bAt bhI karate the aur sAth-sAth ApakI yah bAt bhI lete the. to usake sAth usakA kyA mel hai? kaise hai? yah kRupA karake samajhAIye.

samAdhAna- kShayopasham bhI aisA hotA hai ki apratihat hotA hai ki jo giratA nahIn, aisA. aur usamen usakI sab paryAy apratihatabhAvase, shuddhAtma svarUpakI paryAyen apratihat dhArAse pragaT hotI hai. aisI usakI dhArA hI pragaT hotI hai, joDaNI kShAyikamen.

mumukShu- dharma arthAt samyagdarshan, samyaggnAn pragaT karaneke liye ek to bhedavignAnakI paddhatikI bAt shAstramen bahut sundar AtI hai. dUsarI or gnAyakakI pratIt karanekI bAt bhI samayasAr, niyamasAr Adi granthommen AtI hai. to un donommen ek hI bAt hai athavA koI antar hai? athavA un dononkA mel kaise hai, yah samajhAnekI kRupA kIjiye.

samAdhAna- donon ek hI bAt hai. bhedagnAn, gnAyakakI pratIti karanI vah alag nahIn hai. gnAyakakI pratIti karanI ki main gnAyak hUn. anAdiananta shAshvat chaitanyatattva hUn.

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jo paramapAriNAmikabhAvasvarUp anAdiananta gnAyak hUn. us gnAyakakI pratIti karanI aur usake sAth bhedagnAn arthAt main chaitanya gnAyak hUn aur parapadArthase bhinna, vibhAvase bhinna aisA main AtmA hUn. merA svabhAv bhinna hai. usamen bhedagnAn aur gnAyakakI pratIti donon sAthamen A jAte hain. usamen koI alag bAt nahIn AtI hai, donon ek hI bAt AtI hai.

mumukShu- pAtra shiShyake mukhya-mukhya lakShaN sambandhit thoDA mArgadarshan dIjiye.

samAdhAna- pAtra ho to use antarase use AtmAkI lagan hI lagI ho. mujhe ek chaitanya chAhiye, dUsarA kuchh nahIn chAhiye. AtmAkA hI jise prayojan hai. pratyek kAryamen use AtmAkA prayojan hotA hai. anya sab prayojan use gauN ho jAte hain. ek AtmAko mukhya rakhakar usake sab kArya hote hain. shubhabhAvake kArya ho to use AtmAkA prayojan hotA hai. dUsarA bAharakA koI prayojan use nahIn hotA.

use shubhabhAvanA ho to dev-guru-shAstrakI prabhAvanA kaise ho, aisA shubhabhAvamen use AtA hai. AtmAkA prayojan use sAthamen hotA hai, dUsarA koI prayojan nahIn hotA. usamen koI laukik prayojan yA dUsarA koI prayojan sAthamen nahIn hotA. laukik prayojanase vah bilakUl nyArA (hotA hai). use AtmAkI hI lagan lagI hotI hai. use laukikA, bAharakA yA baDappan yA bAharakA koI prayojan nahIn hotA. mere AtmAko kaise lAbh ho, yah ek hI prayojan AtmArthIko hotA hai.

jisane sAdhanA kI, aiese guru, aise upakArI guru, jinendra dev, shAstrakI prabhAvanA kaise ho? jise svayamkI prIti hai, aisA jisane mArgadarshan diyA, jinhonne mArga batAyA, unakA param upakAr hai. unakI prabhAvanA kaise ho, aisA hetu hotA hai. bAkI dUsarA koI hetu use hotA nahIn. pAtra jIvakA aisA lakShaN hotA hai. dUsarA sab us use gauN ho jAtA hai, ek AtmA hI mukhya rahatA hai.

mumukShu- sansthAke kArya karanekA prayojan?

samAdhAna- dev-guru-shAstrakI prabhAvanA hotI ho aur usako svayamko vikalpa AtA ho to usamen juDatA hai. juDatA hai. dev-guru-shAstrakI prabhAvanA hetu aur nijAtmA hetu juDatA hai. dUsarA koI prayojan nahIn hotA.

mumukShu- usamen bhI mukhyapane to AtmA hI mukhya hotA hai.

samAdhAna- AtmA hI mukhya hotA hai. mere AtmAko kaise (lAbh ho)? nijAtmAko kaise sanskAr Dale? AtmAke sanskAr kaise dRuDh ho? main chaitanya nyArA hUn, aisA hI use prayojan hotA hai. use dharmakI prIti hai isaliye dharmakI prabhAvanA kaise ho? gurukI kaise prabhAvanA ho? unakI shobhA ho, unako log jAne, shubhabhAvamenn use aisA vikalpa AtA

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hai. jisakI svayamko prIti hai, svayamko jis svabhAvakI prIti hai, jo guurune mArga batAyA, us guru par bhakti Aye binA nahIn rahatI. isaliye vah shubhakAryamen juDatA hai. parantu use hetu AtmAkA hI hotA hai.

mumukShu- kisIko aisA ho jAy ki sansthAkI mukhyatA ho jAy aur AtmAkI gauNatA ho jAy, to vah pAtratAmen AtA hai?

samAdhAna- AtmAkI to mukhyatA hI honI chAhiye.