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samAdhAna- ... lekin itanA gurudevakA upadesh milA, svayam vichAr kare ki ye kuchh apUrva hai, aisA buddhipUrvak bhI vichAramen lage to use apragaT hai ki nahIn, yah vichAranekA yA DhUnDhanekA koI avakAsh hI nahIn rahatA hai. apanI buddhimen aisA AtA ho ki yah kuchh apUrva hai, aisA svayamko hRudayamen lagatA ho.

mumukShu- pragaTamen lagatA ho to phir apragaTamen hai hI.

samAdhAna- apragaTamen sahaj hI AtA hai.

mumukShu- kis ... upAdAn ..

samAdhAna- upAdAn kAraN hai, dhruv svayam upAdAn hai. mUl vastu upAdAn hai. usakA AdhAr dravya kahate hain aur aise AdhAr kahate hain. guN-paryAyase AtmA pahachAnanemen AtA hai. puna use sAdhan batAyA. Aj pravachanamen AyA thA. mUl upAdAn to vastu svayam hai. lekin ye to usase pahachAnamen AtA hai, paryAy dvArA pahachAnamen AtA hai. dravya aur guN pahachAnamen Ate hain. guN dvArA dravya pahachAnamen AtA hai. isaliye use sAdhan kahA. mUl vastu to anAdi ananta shAshvat hai. dravya aur guN donon shAshvat hai.

bAharamen upayog jAtA hai, laukikamen jAtA hai vahAn-se thoDA-sA andaramen jAye. anAdikA jo sanskAr hai vahAn bhAg jAtA hai, yahAn TikatA nahIn. isaliye bArambAr- bArambAr usakA vichAr, vAnchan andar bArambAr dRuDhatA karatI rahanI. ruchi baDhAnI, satsang ho to satsangase samajhanA. bArambAr karanA. anAdi kAlase mahA mushkilase yah manuShyabhav milatA hai. to yah manuShyabhav to AtmAkA kaise ho, yahAn AtmAko pahachAnA ho to use bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. bhavakA abhAv nahIn ho, vah to samyagdarshan prApta ho to hotA hai. parantu usake liye taiyArImen jignAsA, bhAvanA, AtmAk kaise pahachAnamen Aye, yah sharIr bhinna, AtmA bhinna, donon vastu hI bhinna hain. donon tattva bhinna hI hain. lekin use vichAr karake nakkI kare.

andar vikalpa hote hain, vah bhI svayamkA svabhAv nahIn hai. usase bhI AtmA bhinna hai. siddha bhagavAn jaisA AtmA gnAnAnandase bharA koI anupam tattva hai. usakI mahimA

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lAye, bArambAr usakA vichAr kare to hotA hai. bArambAr karanA. andar shubhabhAvamen dev- guru, jinendra dev, guru aur shAstra (hone chAhiye). antaramen AtmAko kaise pahachAnun? AtmAkI mahimA Aye, AtmA koI apUrva hai, koI anupam hai. aisA usake hRudayamen lage to usamen vichAr Tike. AtmAkI utanI mahimA AyI nahIn ho, utanI ruchi nahIn ho, ruchikI mandatA hotI hai, isaliye vahAn Tik nahIn sakatA.

kAraN de utanA hI kArya AtA hai. svayamkA puruShArtha manda hai isaliye usakA kArya utanA hI Aye. jisakA ugra puruShArtha hai use kArya AtA hai. ananta jIv puruShArtha karake mokSha gaye hain, bhedagnAn kar-karake gaye hain. svayamkI svAnubhUti antaramen AtmAkI pragaT kI hai, puruShArtha dvArA bhedagnAn kiyA hai. sharIr bhinna AtmA bhinna, aisA kShaN- kShaNamen jisakI pariNati ho jAye, sahaj ho jAye. ek gnAyak AtmAkI pariNati.

ye to use ekatvakA abhyAs ho rahA hai. sharIr aur main, donon ek hI hain, aisA use bhAsit hotA hai. vikalpase bhinna to bhAsit nahIn hotA, parantu sharIrase bhinna bhAsit nahIn hotA. aisI ekatvabuddhi (toDaneko) bArambAr usakA abhyAs karatA rahe.

mumukShu- usake liye mAtAjI! svAdhyAy pUrA-pUrA honA chAhiye?

samAdhAna- hAn, svAdhyAy honA chAhiye, vichAr hone chAhiye. svAdhyAy kare to usake vichAr Aye ki isamen kyA AtA hai? ananta jIv yah mArga prApta kar mokSha gaye hain. gurudev is panchamakAlamen (padhAre). bAharamen sab thoDA kar le to mAno dharma ho gayA, aisA mAnate hain. lekin vah to mAtra shubhabhAv hai, puNya bandhatA hai, (usase) devalok mile, usase bhavakA abhAv nahIn hotA. bhavakA abhAv to AtmAko pahachAne to hotA hai. gurudevane mArga batAyA ki AtmA koI apUrva vastu hai. mArga antaramen hai, bAharamen nahIn hai. isaliye karane jaisA vahI hai. antaramen kaise pahachAnamen Aye? bArambAr vichAr karanA, bArambAr vAnchan karanA, nahIn samajhamen to kisIko pUchhanA, jo samajhate ho use.

mumukShu- vahAn abhI bandhakA svarUp chalatA hai. shubhabhAv bhI bAndhatA hai aur ashubhabhAv bhI bAndhatA hai, to pUrA dinA kaun-sA bhAv karanA?

samAdhAna- shubhase bhI bandha hai, ashubhase bhI bandhana. us bhAvase bhinna, Atmatattva bhinna hai, us bhinna AtmAko pahachAne to abandha pariNAm hote hain. to bandhatA nahIn hai. sharIr aur AtmAkI ekatvabuddhise bandhA hai. svayam aisA mAnatA hai, svayamko bhinna nahIn jAnatA. svayamko bhinna jAne aur svayamkA bhinna anubhav kare to bandhakA abhAv hotA hai. shubh aur ashubh donon bandhan karate hain. usamen ashubhabhAvase bachaneko use shubhabhAv gRuhasthAshramamen hote hain. lekin vah shubhabhAv manda kaShAy hai, usase puNya bandhatA hai.

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gRuhasthAshramamen abhI AtmAko nahIn pahachAnA, jinendra dev, guru, shAstrakI bhakti Aye, usake vichAr Aye, usakI mahimA Aye, vah bandhan hai, lekin vah Aye binA nahIn rahatA. jabatak AtmA pahachAnanemen nahIn AtA, tabatak bIchamen Ate hI hain. lekin AtmAko jo bhinna pahachAne, use pahachAnakar AtmAmen lIn hove to vah bhAv abandhabhAv hai, vah mukta (hotA hai), andarase chhUTatA hai. lekin abhI AnshikarUpase chhUTatA hai. samyagdRuShTi hotA hai vah AtmAko pahachAne, vah gRuhasthAshramamen ho to use bhI shubhabhAv to AtA hai. jinendra dev, guru, shAstrake vichAr Aye. parantu jaise-jaise Age baDhe aur svayam andar AtmAmen lIn hote jAye, vaise vah shubhabhAv bhI chhUTate jAte hain. aisA karate-karate munidashA AtI hai, tab AtmAmen bahut lIn hote hain. kShaN-kShaNamen AtmAmen lIn hote hain. isaliye unhen shubhAshubh donon bhAv itane kam ho jAte hain, aur AtmAmen lIn ho jAye to vah shubhabhAv chhUT jAte hain. AtmAko pahachAnakar AtmAmen lIn hove to vah shubhAshubh bhAvase rahit hotA hai.

mumukShu- madhyastha bhAv.. mAtAjI!

samAdhAna- shubh aur ashubh donon bandhanakA kAraN hai, aisA barAbar jAnanA. suvarNakI beDI aur lohekI beDI donon bandhan karatI hai. parantu jabatak AtmAko bhinna nahIn pahachAnA hai, tabatak svarNa beDIrUp jo shubhabhAv hai, vah bIchamen Aye binA nahIn rahate. isaliye vah yadi gRuhasthAshramamen shubhamen nahIn khaDA rahegA to ashubhamen chalA jAyegA. to usase to pAp bandhatA hai, usase narak, nigod hotA hai. aur is shubhabhAvase bhavamen devalok mile yA aisA kuchh hotA hai, lekin vah bhav to prApta hogA hI. shubhabhAvase bhagavAn mile, guru mile parantu bhav to chAlU hI rahenge. usase rahit AtmAko pahachAne to bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. isaliye vah to bIchamen Ate hain. lekin usase bhinna AtmAko pahachAnanekA prayatna karanA. kaise pahachAnamen Aye? usakA abhyAs karanA, bArambAr vichAr karanA. usase tIsarA bhAv AtmAko pahachAnanA vah hai.

(AtmAkI) anubhUti ho, usamen lIn ho jAye, bAharakI kuchh khabar nahIn rahe, andar aisA lIn ho jAye, vah tIsarA bhAv hai. parantu pahale vah nahIn ho to usakI shraddhA kare ki in donon bhAvase rahit AtmAkA svarUp hai. usase nahIn ho sake to puruShArtha manda ho to shraddhA to barAbar kare. AchAryadev kahate hain, tujhase nahIn ho sakatA hai to shraddhA barAbar karanA ki ye donon bhAv bandhakA kAraN hai. lekin usase bhinna bhAv, jo gnAyak jAnane vAlA hai, vah mokShakA kAraN hai, aisI shraddhA to barAbar karanA. nahIn ho sake to shraddhA to barAbar rakhanA. shubhabhAv jo hai vah to bIchamen Ayenge. ashubhabhAvase bachaneko vah puNyabhAv bIchamen Ayenge. parantu tU shraddhA barAbar rakhanA, nahIn

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ho to. shraddhAmen aisA mat karanA ki ye shubhabhAv hai, usase devalok milegA. aisI ichchhA mat karanA. bhinna AtmA hai, usakI shraddhA karanA.

mumukShu- us shraddhAkA phal ..

samAdhAna- aisI shraddhA rakhe usamen jo vikalpa Aye vah shubhabhAv, puNyabandhakA kAraN hai. vikalpa puNyabandhakA kAraN hai. shraddhA to use Age baDhanekA kAraN banatI hai. vikalpa puNyabandhakA kAraN hai.

mumukShu- is bhavamen bahut prayatna karaneke bAd bhI, dev-guru-shAstra sabakA yog hai, phir bhI nahIn ho, jIvakI unnati nahIn ho to is pariNAmase yahI chIj Tik sakatI hai?

samAdhAna- svayamkI taiyArI ho to Tik sakatI hai. aise gahare sanskAr DAle ki mujhe yahI chAhiye. Upar-Uparase ho to nahIn rahatA. gahare sanskAr ho to TikatA hai. mujhe yahI chAhiye, AtmA hI chAhiye, aur kuchh nahIn chAhiye. aise gahare sanskAr ho to vah dUsare bhavamen Tikate hain. andar gaharAIse (honA chAhiye). svayamko andarase ruchi honI chAhiye to TikatA hai. aur vah shubhabhAv bhI aise hote hain ki use sAdhan bhI vaise mil jAte hain. guru mile, dev mile. gaharI ruchi ho to hotA hai. sanskAr gahare hone chAhiye.

samAdhAna- ... satya to saral aur sugam hai, lekin satya khojaneko charchA, rAg-dveSh Adi samajhaneke liye nahIn hote hain. jignAsu ho use samajhaneke liye hote hain. tattva kyA hai usakA vichAr, usakI khoj, andarase manthan Adi ho. vichAr, vAnchan (Adi hote hain). tattva samajhanemen rAg-dveSh nahIn hote.

mumukShu- adhikase adhik sangharSha, satyako samajhanekI yogyatAke liye hai yA kisake liye hai? hamAre jaise bhI..

samAdhAna- bAhar to shubh vikalpa Aye isaliye... usake liye sangharShamen jAnA, aisA kuchh nahIn hotA. vah to svayamko svayamkA karanA hai. bAhar to shubh vikalpa Aye. svayamko dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAv (aise) lage to kahe, nahIn lage to nahIn kahe. usake liye sangharSha karanA, aisA usakA artha nahIn hai. vah use rokatA nahIn. svayam vichAr karake antaramen samajhanA hai.

mumukShu- satya koI aise prakArase hai ki jise samajhaneke liye bhinna-bhinna manuShyako bhinna-bhinna prakArase satya prApta ho?

samAdhAna- bhinna-bhinna prakArase nahIn. antaramen to mArga ek hI hai. mArga alag

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nahIn hai. vichAr kare, vAnchan kare, svAdhyAy kare. mUl prayojanabhUt tattvako jAnanA chAhiye. adhik jAne isaliye samajhamen Aye yA adhik paDhe to samajhamen Aye aisA kuchh nahIn hai. prayojanabhUt samajhe to AtmAko pahachAne. AtmAke dravya-guN-paryAy kyA hai, parapadArtha kyA hai, vibhAv kyA hai, svabhAv kyA hai, (aisA) prayojanabhUt samajhe to muktikA mArga hotA hai. jyAdA samajhe aur bahut paDhe, aisA koI usakA artha nahIn hai. bIchamen ashubhabhAvase bachaneko shubhabhAv Ate hain, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, shAstra svAdhyAy Adi hotA hai, tattvakA vichAr hotA hai, prayojanabhUt tattvako jAnaneke liye. visheSh jAne to use gnAnakI nirmalatA hotI hai, usamen koI nukasAn nahIn hai. lekin jyAdA jAne aur jyAdA paDhe to hI hotA hai, aisA usakA artha nahIn hai.

shivabhUti muni kuchh nahIn jAnate the. yAd nahIn rahatA thA. bAI dAl dho rahI thI. chhilakA bhinna aur dAl bhinna, aisA bhinna samajhakar (yAd A gayA ki), mere gurune aisA kahA hai, aisA samajhakar yah AtmA bhinna, sharIr bhinna aur vibhAvasvabhAv merA nahIn hai, isaprakAr bhedagnAn karake antaramen Utar gaye. gnAyakako pahachAnakar, bhedagnAn karake svarUpamen lIn ho gaye to unhen mArga prApta ho gayA. shreNi lagAkar kevalagnAn ho jAye. prayojanabhUt jAne usamen sab A jAtA hai.

mumukShu- prayojanabhUtake Upar koI nAm to nahIn likhA hotA ki yah prayojanabhUt hai. prayojanabhUtako nakkI kaise karanA?

samAdhAna- prayojanabhUt-sva-parakA bhedagnAn karanA yah prayojanabhUt hai. svayamke dravya- guN-paryAy aur anyakA, paradravyakA svabhAv aur svadravyake svabhAvako bhinna karanA, yah prayojanabhUt hai. mUl vastu chaitanyako pahachAnanA. gnAyak, gnAyak vastu svabhAvase ek hai. usamen guN aur paryAy, lakShaNabhedase bhed hai, mUlamen bhed nahIn hai. usamen guN lakShaNase bhinna hain. aise dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp pahachAne. usakA pariNaman hotA hai vah paryAy hai. isaprakAr mUl vastuko samajhe. dravya-guN-paryAyako (samajhe), yah sab mUl prayojanabhUt hai.

tattvakI sab bAt samajhe, yah prayojanabhUt hai. mUlabhUt vastu. tiryanchako nau tattvake nAm bhI nahIn Ate, to bhI andaramen main yah hUn aur yah vibhAv hai (aisA) samajhatA hai. andaramen sAdhakadashA pragaT hotI hai. use samvar A jAtA hai, Age baDhane par nirjarA hotI hai, sab usamen A jAtA hai, nAm nahIn Ate hain phir bhI. karmakI sattA kitanI, usakI prakRiti, usakA kyA, usakA ras kitanA, usakI sthiti kitanI Adi kuchh nahIn AtA. use devalok kyA, narka kyA, usake bhed, kahAn-se kahAn jAtA hai aur kahAn-se kahAn jAtA hai, vah sab nahIn AtA hai. sattA, sthiti, prakRiti Adi kuchh nahIn AtA hai. mUl prayojanabhUt tattva bhedagnAn AtA hai.

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mumukShu- paryAy hai. pAriNAmikabhAv hai usamense paryAy nikalatI hai, usamen samAviShTa ho jAtI hai. arthAt kepsul hotI hai, davAI, phir kepsulamen kuchh nahIn hotA, lekin jo davAI usamen bhare, vah kepsul usakI kahI jAtI hai. vaise jo vartamAn-vartamAn pariNati hai, paryAy, vah usamense nikalatI hai aur usamen samAviShTa ho jAtI hai. samA jAtI hai tab khAlI ho jAye. arthAt nikalate samay aur dAkhil hote samay bilakUl khAlI- khAlI hotI hai. isaliye pAriNAmikabhAvako koI takalIph nahIn hotI.

samAdhAna- takalIph to kisIko nahIn hotI. vah to bharA huA tattva hai. vah koI khAlI kepsul nahIn hai.

mumukShu- khAlI rahe phir bhar jAye. bharA huA kitane samay rahe? ek samay rahe? phir khAlI ho jAye?

mumukShu- abhI ek charchA nikalI. paryAy hai vah nikalatI hai, phir paryAy phirase dAkhil ho jAye.

mumukShu- paryAyakA samay to ek samay hai.

samAdhAna- khAlI kepsulamen davAI bharanI ho to davAI bAhar nikal jAye, phir vahI davAI andar pravesh kar le, aisA?

mumukShu- parapadArthake kAraN rAgak-dveSh hotA hai. rAg-dveSh hotA hai usakA kAraN bAhya sanyogamen juDatA hai. paryAy to rUkhI hI hai. phirase bAhar jAye tab khAlI hokar jAye.

samAdhAna- ... sukhase bharA AtmA hai. vah ananta pAriNAmikabhAv hai. vah khAlI bhI nahIn hotA aur bharatA bhI nahIn hai, jaisA hai vaisA hai. usakI paryAyen pariNamati hain.

mumukShu- paryAyakA utpAd hotA hai aur paryAyakA vyay hotA hai. to paryAy kaise nikalatI hai?

samAdhAna- paryAy andar pariNamati hai. usake kArya Ate hain. jo ananta guN bhare hain, jaise gnAnalakShaN hai (to) gnAnakA jAnanerUp kArya AtA hai. vah usakA utpAd hai. jo usake guN hain, vah guN guNakA kArya karate hain, vah usakI paryAye hain. vah pariNamati rahatI hain. prakAshakA prakAsharUp pariNaman hotA hai, lavaNakA lavaNarUp-khArApanerUp pariNaman hotA hai. gnAnakA jAnanerUp pariNaman hotA hai. guN svayam apanA kArya karate rahate hain.

mumukShu- viparItatA hotI hai use kahIn-se bhI dAkhil karanI hai. khAlI ho to hI viparItatAkA pravesh ho sake na?

samAdhAna- viparItatA svayam svayamkI (hai). sphaTik nirmal hai. bAhar nimitta AyA

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to sphaTik svayam lAlarUp pariNamatA hai. kahInse nahIn AtA.

.. ghoTAlA karatA rahatA hai. svayam hI puruShArthakI mandatArUp pariNamatA hai. paryAy koI ghoTAlA nahIn karatI. dravya-guN-paryAy vastukA svarUp hI hai. ek dUsareke binA ek dUsare hote hI nahIn. ananta guN AtmAmen hain. vah guN apanA kArya nahIn kare to (guN kaisA)? dravya guN binAkA ho to vah dravya kaisA? guN svayam apanA kArya na kare to vah guN kaisA? dravya-guN-paryAy, paryAy koI ghoTAlA nahIn karatI.

siddha bhagavAnako ananta guN-paryAy pariNamate rahate hain. AnandaguN, gnAnaguN hai vah pariNamatA rahatA hai. pariNaman kiyA, vah pUrA ho gayA isaliye dUsare samay khAlI ho gayA, aisA nahIn hai. vah to ananta kAl tak pariNamatA rahe to bhI thoDA-sA bhI andar khAlI nahIn hotA. utanAkA utanA Ananda bharA hai aur utanAkA utanA gnAn bharA hai. utpAd-vyay hote hI rahate hain. utpAd aur vyaya. vyay ho gayA isaliye sab khalAs nahIn ho jAtA. vaisAkA vaisA bharA hai. ananta bharA rahatA hai.

mumukShu- ananta sAmarthya vAlI paryAy hone par bhI anantamense kuchh khAlI nahIn hotA?

samAdhAna- andaramen kuchh khAlI nahIn hotA, ananta bharA hI hai. muumukShu- utanAkA utanA pUrA bharA rahatA hai? samAdhAna- pUrAkA pUrA bharA rahatA hai, thoDA bhI khAlI nahIn hotA. gnAnane ek samayamen jAn liyA, ab dUsare samay kyA jAnegA, aisA nahIn hai. utanAkA utanA ananta bharA hai.

mumukShu- ... pUrNa nikAlo aur pUrNakA pUrNa rahe.

samAdhAna- ananta kabhI khatma hI nahIn hotA. sva-paraprakAshak gnAn ek samayamen lokAlok pUrA jAn liyA. to bhI dUsare samay utanA hI jAnanekA ananta sAmarthya bharA hai. utanA lokAlok hai, vah gney hai utanA hI jAnA (aisA nahIn), ananta lokAlok ho to bhI use jAnanekA antaramen sAmarthya hai.

mumukShu- chamatkArik amRutakA ghaDA, bahinashrIne likhA hai.

samAdhAna- .. anubhavamen A gayA isaliye dUsare samay khalAs ho gayA, aisA nahIn hai. ananta kAl paryant pariNamatA rahe to bhI utanAkA utanA hai.

mumukShu- pAnch laDDa the, usamense chAr khAye to ek hI bAkI rahe na?

samAdhAna- vah alag bAt hai. vah to pudagalakI bAt hai, yah to svabhAvakI bAt hai.

mumukShu- akShiN Ruddhi vAleko bhI laDDa kam nahIn hote. lAkhkhon log Aye

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to bhI pAnch laDDamen sabakA ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- munionko aisI Ruddhi pragaT hotI hai ki jisake ghar AhAr le, akShiN Ruddhi ho to khatma hI nahIn ho.

mumukShu- aisI lAlasA hamen rahA karatI hai ki aisI kuchh Ruddha hamen dIjiye ki jisase..

samAdhAna- aisI Ruddhiko kyA karanA? andar AtmAkI Ruddhi pragaT ho, svabhAvakA bhedagnAn ho aur muktikA mArga pragaT ho, vah Ruddha hai. ye sab to bAhya (Ruddhi hain). munionko antar dashAmen sahaj pragaT ho jAtI hai. unhen usakA koI dhyAn bhI nahIn hotA. meru parvat par muniko vaikriyak sharIrakI Ruddhi pragaT huyI to dhyAn bhI nahIn rahA ki vaikriyak sharIrakI Ruddhi pragaT huyI hai. bAli munine 500 munionko upasarga diyA thA. unhen kahA ki, aisA upasarga hai. (munirAjako) Ruddhi thI yah bhI mAlUm nahIn thA. hAth aisA kiyA to mAlUm huA ki vaikriyak sharIrakI Ruddhi hai. munionkA Ruddha par dhyAn bhI nahIn hai.