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samAdhAna-... vRuddhAvasthA aur dUsarA?

mumukShu- mRutyu-mauta.

samAdhAna- kuchh bhay vAlA nahIn hai, sabako bhay lagatA hai.

mumukShu- kisakA lagatA hai?

samAdhAna- is sharIrakA rAg hai ekatvabuddhikA, isaliye. sharIramen vRuddhAvasthA Aye vah kisIko posAtI nahIn aur maraNakA bhay hai, isaliye mRutyu achchhI nahIn lagatI. svayamko achchhA nahIn lagatA. AtmA to vastukA svabhAv hai. sharIr dhAraN kare vah chhUTatA hI hai. ek sharIr dhAraN kare, dUsarA kare.. jabatak bhavakA abhAv nahIn huA hai tabatak sharIr dhAraN karegA. parantu usako svayamko sharIrakI ekatvabuddhi, sharIrakA rAg hai. isaliye use bhay lagatA hai. sharIrase bhinna nahIn honA hai. bhinna hI hai, parantu ekatvabuddhi aisI hai ki use bhinna nahIn honA hai. isaliye use bhay lagatA hai. vRuddhAvasthAn evan mRutyu bhay nahIn karavAte, parantu svayam DaratA hai. svayamko mRutyu achchhI nahIn lagatI, svayamko vRuddhAvasthA achchhI nahIn lagatI.

mumukShu- vRuddhAvasthA Aye to sahI.

samAdhAna- Aye binA nahIn rahegI.

mumukShu- phir bhI usakA bhay lagatA rahatA hai.

samAdhAna- bhay lagatA hai. vRuddhAvasthAmen sharIr kAm nahIn karatA, isaliye bhay lagatA hai. ekatvabuddhi hai. to bhI use vairAgya nahIn hotA ki sansArakA svarUp to aisA hI hai. vairAgyako prApta hokar AtmAkA kar lenA. vRuddhAvasthA Anese pahale AtmAkA kar lenA, aise puruShArtha karatA nahIn, vairAgya nahIn karatA aur bhayabhIt hotA hai. vairAgya lAnA chAhiye. umra baDI ho isaliye sharIr kAm nahIn karatA. baiThanemen, UThanemen, dekhanemen, sunanemen sabamen takalIph ho jAtI hai. pahalese kar lenA hai, aisA svayamko vairAgya karanA chAhiye.

mumukShu- bAkI koI bhay rakhane jaisA nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- bhay rakhane jaisA nahIn hai. bhay kisakA hai? vah to vastukA svarUp

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hai, aisA banane vAlA hI hai.

mumukShu- svayam to rahane vAlA hI hai.

samAdhAna- svayam to nitya hai. svayamko svayamkA svarUp sAdh lenA, svayamke svarUpako sambhAlakar svayamko Atma svarUpakI prApti kar lenI, yahI karanA hai. vRuddhAvasthA koI nayI nahIn hai, sabako dikhatA hI hai. aisA to sansAramen banatA hI AyA hai. usakA bhay rakhanA to vyartha hai. vairAgyako prApta hokar svayamko svayamkA kar lenA.

mumukShu- AtmAko achchhA laganA, nahIn laganA..

samAdhAna- achchhA nahIn lage to bhI vah to svarUp hI hai, vah to banegA hI, achchhA lage yA nahIn. usamen kisIkA upAy nahIn chalatA. chAhe jitane DAkTar bulAye, davAI kare to bhI vRuddhAvasthA AnevAlI hai, mRutyu hogA, chAhe jaise DAkTar bulAye. baDe- baDe rAjA aur chakravartI chale jAte hain. sAgaropamakA devonkA AyuShya bhI pUrA ho jAtA hai. vah to AnevAlA hI hai, achchhA lage yA nahIn, vah to hogA hI. sabakA pUrA hotA hai. isaliye svayamko pahachAn lenA, usakA-sharIrakA rAg chhoD denA. yah sansAr aisA hI hai. isaliye vairAgyako prApta hokar AtmAkA kar lene jaisA hai.

AtmA shAshvat hai, is janma-maraNase kaise chhUTA jAye? andar jo AkUlatA hotI hai, usase kaise chhUTe? vikalpa svayamkA svabhAv nahIn hai, to phir sharIr kahAn apanA hai? achchhA lage yA nahIn, achchhA nahIn lage to bhI banane vAlA hai. vah to banegA hI. devonkA sAgaropamakA AyuShya bhI pUrNa ho jAtA hai. to manuShya to kyA hisAbamen hai? chakravartIkA chaturtha kAlamen kitanA lambA AyuShya thA, to vah bhI pUrA ho jAtA hai.

mumukShu- abhI jyAdA dukh lagatA hai, huNDAvasarpiNI kAl hai isaliye jyAdA dukh lagatA hai?

samAdhAna- kAlake kAraN dukh nahIn lagatA, svayamkI kShatike kAraN dukh lagatA hai.

mumukShu- huNDAvarsapiNIkA matalab kyA?

samAdhAna- abhI aise jIv janma lete hain, vaise hI jIv (Ate hain). chaturtha kAlake bahut sIdhe evan saral jIv the. abhI sab pariNAm aise ho gaye hain. kAl kyA karatA hai? apanI yogyatA aisI hai. chaturtha kAlamen puNyoday jyAdA thA, pApake kam the. abhI pApakA uday jyAdA ho gayA aur sab baDh gayA hai, usakA kAraN jIv hI aise (hain), aisA karma lekar svayam hI AtA hai, usamen kAl kyA kare?

mumukShu- asankhyAt kAl chakravAt honeke bAd aisA huNDAvasarpiNI kAl AtA hai. asankhyAt kAlachakrake bAda. aisA viSham kAl AyA, huNDAvasarpiNI jaisA.

samAdhAna- kAl AyA, aise kAlamen janma kaun letA hai? ki jisane aise bhAv

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kiye hon, vah janmatA hai. usamen kAl kyA kare? aise bhAv vAle jIv hote hain ki aise kAlamen janmate hain. parantu gurudevake pratApase bIchamen kAl achchhA A gayA ki gurudevakA janma huA, sabako mArga prApta huA. bAharake puNya-pApake sanyog ek or rah gaye, bAkI gurudevakA janma huA vah dharmakA kAl bIchamen A gayA. bIchamen chaturtha kAl A gayA.

mumukShu- aur abhI bhI vartatA hI hai.

samAdhAna- gurudevakA pratAp abhI bhI vartatA hI hai.

mumukShu- abhI to ApakA pratAp hai. sonagaDhamen chaturtha kAl vartatA hai.

mumukShu- chImanabhAI kahate hain, yahAn to sab bhUl jAtA hUn. ... hAth ghumAtA rahatA hUn, dhaDakan ginatA rahatA hUn, yahAn to sIne par hAth rakhatA hUn to bhagavAnakI gunj uThatI hai. pahale hRudayakI dhaDakan sunAI detI thI, ab AtmAkI sunAI detI hai.

samAdhAna- ... chAron or bhagavAnake mandir hain. chAron or gurudevakI Tep chalatI hai. AtmAkI bAten ho rahI hai. dharmakAl bIchamen A gayA. aisA mArga gurudevane prakAshit kiyA. chAron or unakI vANI aisI joradAr thI, AtmAko darshAye aisI vANI thI. puNyakA kAl, bIchamen dharmakAl A gayA. panchamakAlamen aisA-aisA koI-koI kAl A jAtA hai, huNDAvasarpiNI honeke bAvajUd bhI.

mumukShu- .. asankhyAt kAlachakra honeke bAd aisA huNDa kAl AtA hai. asankhyAt kAlachakramen aisA..

samAdhAna- aisA yog milA aur usamen gurudev mile. aisA yog bhI ananta kAlake bAd milatA hai, gurudev mile aisA. is panchamakAlamen gurudev kahAn-se mile? aisI vANI, aisA mArga darshAnevAle kahAn-se prApta ho? aur munion pahale bahut ho gaye hain, unhonne kitanI vANI barasAI! shAstrommen abhI chalI A rahI hai. gurudevane sab mumukShuonke bIch rahakar itane sAl vANI barasAI. aisA to kabhI-kabhI banatA hai. koI jangalamen chale jAye. ye to mumukShuonke bIch rahakar itane sAl vANI barasAyI, ye to mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai.

mumukShu- Aj subah vichAr AyA, svAdhyAy mandirako 50 varSha honge. svarNa mahotsav manAnA hai. koI bhI mandirase svAdhyAy shreShTha mandir svAdhyAy mandir hai, jahAn kevalagnAnakA hI ghUTan huA hai aur samayasArakI sthApanA huI hai. 50 varSha pUrNa honge.

samAdhAna- gurudevane barason tak svAdhyAy mandiramen vANI barasAyI. barason tak yahAn birAje.

mumukShu- popaTabhAI ...ne svAdhyAy mandir nAm rakhA thA.

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samAdhAna- barason pahale yahAn kuchh nahIn thA. sab mandir (bane). jab svAdhyAy mandir huA tab vahAn kuchh nahIn thA. gurudevake pratApase sab vahAn ho gayA.

mumukShu- gurudev kahate the ki, yahAn to bhains ghUmatI thI.

samAdhAna- hIrAbhAIkI dukAnase lekar yahAn tak aisA lage ki jangalamen hai. jangalamen hain aisA lage.

mumukShu- vairAgya evan udAsInatA..

samAdhAna- ek hI hai. lagabhag ek hI hai. vairAgya arthAt parase bhinna hokar apanemen (Aye), udAsInatA bhI vahI hai. udAs ho jAye, usamen bhI vahI hai.

mumukShu- upashamapanA?

samAdhAna- upashamamen kaShAyakI upashamatA, usamen thoDA pharka hai. juDanA nahIn, kaShAyake vegamen bahanA nahIn. shAnt pariNAm rakhe, kahIn bahe nahIn, vah upashama. tIvra kaShAy, jo mumukShukI bhUmikAko shobhate nahIn aise kaShAyommen bah nahIn jAtA, vah upashamabhAva. .. usakI kyA bAt!

... (jin) pratimA jin sArakhI kahanemen AtI hai. usamen bhAvanA vAleko ek hI dikhAI detA hai, pratimA aur bhagavAnamen kuchh pharka nahIn dikhatA. bhAvase dekhe use bhagavAnakI pratimAmen pharka nahIn dikhatA. jin pratimA jin sArakhI, aisA shAstramen AtA hai. alpa bhav sthiti jAkI, so hI jin pratimA paramAnai, jin sArakhI, aisA AtA hai.

jagatamen ratna bhI bhagavAnarUp pariNamit ho rahe hain. bhagavAn jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa hain to kudaratamen shAshvat pratimAen hain. shAshvat mandir evan shAshvat pratimAen. merumen, nandishvaramen, Urdhva, madhya, adholokamen chAron or hain.

mumukShu- ratna aisI pratimArUp pariNamate hain?

samAdhAna- pratimArUp ratna pariNamate hain. sAdhAraN patthar nahIn, balki uchcha ratnonke paramANurUp aise skandh pratimArUp pariNamit ho gaye hain. sab shAstramen AtA hai.

mumukShu- kRutrim nahIn, ratna hI aise pariNamit hue hain.

samAdhAna- ye pudagal ratnarUp pariNamit hokar sab pratimArUp hokar, usake AkAr pratimA mAnon sAkShAt bhagavAn hI baiThe hain, ekamAtra vANI nahIn, utanA. samavasaraNamen baiThe hon aise hUbahU. pAnchasau-pAnchasau dhanuShakI (pratimAen). kisIne nahIn banAyA, apane Apa. kudarat mAno kahatI hai ki jagatamen bhagavAn sarvotkRuShTa hai.

mumukShu- nandishvar dvip dekhA tab Ashcharya hotA thA. shAshvat bhagavAn kisaprakAr honge? Aj spaShTa huA, Aj spaShTa huA.

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samAdhAna- parvat par mandir, kisIne nahIn banAyA, apaneAp, svayam (hI hai). jaise bhagavAn hain barAbar vaise, koI pharka nahIn.

mumukShu- usakI yAtrA ho sakatI hai?

samAdhAna- vah to dev kar sakate hain. nandishvarakI yAtrA to. meru parvatakI yAtrA vidyAdhar ho vah kar sakate hain, koI dev le jAye to kar sakatA hai. vidyAdhar ho to jA sakate hain. koI shaktishAlI muni hon to jA sakate hain. bAkI nandishvaramen to dev hI jAte hain. manuShya nahIn jA sakate. nandishvaramen manuShya nahIn hote, dev hI hote hain.

mumukShu- aisA kahate hain, yahAn nandishvaramen Ate hain na, dev ho vahI A sakate hain. aise.

samAdhAna- .. sab hotA hai.

mumukShu- .. hamen kahate the ki ApakA bhI koI pratAp hai. ham Aj gurudevakI Ap par apAr kRupA thI aur vah kRupA Aj hamAre par baras rahI hai, Apake dvArA. aisA ham mAnen to kuchh galat hai?

samAdhAna- sab gurudevakA pratAp hai.

mumukShu- bhagavAn.. bhagavAna. kundakundAchAryane bhI kabhI apanA nAm nahIn Ane diyA. .. shrutandhar bhadrabAhu .. bhagavAna. vaise Ap bhI kahIn...

samAdhAna- sab mUl mArga to gurudevane prakAshit kiyA hai. sab gurudevakA hI hai.

mumukShu- bAt bilakUl satya hai, parantu Aj bhI hamen gurudevakA smaraN karavAne vAle bhI Ap hI ho na.

samAdhAna- sab gurudev hI hai, apan to unake dAs hain. Ap log kuchh bhI kaho.

mumukShu- bahinashrI! hamen aisA lagatA hai, ham gurudevako dekhate the, jab ve Apako Ate dekhate the aur kabhI .. koI ahobhAvase dekhate the. ahobhAvase. mAno bhagavAnakA ek namUnA AtA ho! aisA unako bhI lagatA thA, aisA ham barAbar anubhav karate the. isaliye gurudevake hRudayamen ApakA sthAn koI anerA thA, anerA thA. Aj tak unake hRudayamen yadi kisIne sthAn jamAyA ho to ek mAtra bahinashrI hai, aur koI nahIn. atyant karuNA thI. bahinashrIkA nAm Aye to unakA hRuday ullasit ho jAtA thA. puruShArtha.. puruShArtha..

mumukShu- shrImadakA andar paDhA thA, agAsake koI pustakamen, samIp samay agnAt, bas, yah rakhanA, samIp samay agnAta. ...

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mumukShu- jab akelA baiThA thA tab bArambAr yAd AtA hai ki bahinashrI jab bhAIke liye vishiShTa puruShakI bAt karate hain, tab vishiShTa bhUtakAlake, vartamAnake yA bhaviShyake? ye mujhe .. vishiShTa puruSh kahate hain to vishiShTatAkA shabdArtha aur samay..

samAdhAna- kuchh kahanA nahIn hai, vah to bol diyA hogA.

mumukShu- spaShTatA hogI to usamen kisIko koI nukasAnakA kAraN nahIn hogA, lAbhakA kAraN hogA.

samAdhAna- gurudevake pratApase sabako AtmAkI sAdhanA karanI hai, sabako sAdhanA karanI hai.

mumukShu- ... bhAI hai yA bahan hai, aisA ham nahIn ginate. pavitra AtmAen hain aur pavitra AtmAke puruShArthamen...

samAdhAna- Apako jaisA mAnanA ho vaisA mAno, main kuchh nahIn kahatI hUn. bolA hogA, bAkI kuchh nahIn kahanA hai.

samAdhAna- .. dhAraNAmen hotA hai, lekin andar utanI jignAsA aur laganI ho to antaramen Aye. antarase svabhAv pahachAnanA chAhiye. antarase svabhAv nahIn pahachAnatA, isaliye dhAraNAmen rah jAtA hai. svayamke puruShArthakI mandatAkA kAraN, ruchikI mandatA, puruShArthakI mandatA hai isaliye nahIn hotA. tIvra jignAsA ho, tIvra laganI ho to antaramen AtA hai. antaramen kyon nahIn ho rahA hai? vichAramen AtA hai, antaramen kyon nahIn AtA hai, aise laganI laganI chAhiye. kyon bAhar hI bAhar rahatA hai? kyon antaramense nahIn AtA? usakI laganI antaramen laganI chAhiye, to hotA hai.

(laganI) lage use thoDA samajhe to bhI ho jAtA hai. shivabhUti muni kuchh nahIn samajhate the. mAtra prayojanabhUt tattvako samajhe ki main bhinna aur ye sharIr bhinna, ye vibhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai, sabase main bhinna hUn, aisA bhedagnAn kiyA. parantu jise antarase lagA, antarase AtmAko grahaN kar liyA. to antaramen svayam gaharAImen Utare to hotA hai. gaharAImen UtaratA nahIn isaliye Upar-Uparase sab chalatA rahatA hai. yadi prayatna kare, bhale gaharAImen nahIn jAye parantu samajhanekA prayatna kare vah bhI ThIk hai, lekin antaramense ho, yathArtha to tab hotA hai.