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mumukShu- .. hone par bhI mAtra ashuddharUp kyon pariNamatA hai? parakA sang karatA hai tabhI ashuddharUp utpanna hotA hai. usamen kyA kahanA hai?

samAdhAna- pAriNAmik, svabhAv pAriNAmik hai, lekin vartamAn paryAy to ashuddharUp pariNamatI hai. svayam par or jAtA hai, apane puruShArthakI mandatA hai, isaliye use jo uday AtA hai, usamen svayam juD jAtA hai. sabamen puruShArthakI mandatA hai. svayamkI or muDatA nahIn, sabamen svayamkA hI kAraN hai. use kisIkA kAraN lAgU nahIn paDatA. akAraN pAriNAmik dravya hai. use koI rokatA nahIn, karma rokate nahIn, koI nahIn rokate. svayam rukA hai, svayamse. apanI ruchi bAhar jAtI hai. nimittakI asar svayamko honekA kAraN svayamkA hai, dUsarekA nahIn hai.

mumukShu- parasang kuchh nahIn karavAtA hogA?

samAdhAna- parasang kuchh nahIn karavAtA, svayamkI kShatike kAraN parakI asar svayamko hotI hai. parantu svayamke puruShArthakI mandatA ho to svayam aise nimitta, satsang Adi nimittommen satsang kare. svayamkI utanI shakti nahIn ho, nimittase chhUTakar apanA kar sake aisI, puruShArthakI mandatA ho to dev-guru-shAstrakA sAnnidhya ho vahAn rahanekA vichAr, usakI bhAvanA kare. aisA samAgam, yoh nahIn ho to svayam apane puruShArthase dRuDh rahe.

mumukShu- puruShArthakI mandatA ho to aise sangase use lAbh honekA kAraN hai?

samAdhAna- puruShArthakI mandatA ho to aisA samAgam nimitta hai, taiyArI to svayamko karanI hai. jise laganI hotI hai, use svayamko asar hotI hai. apanI lagan lagI ho use bhAvanA hotI hI hai ki dev-guru-shAstrakA sAnnidhya prApta ho, samAgam prApta ho, aise vichAr use Ate hI hain, jise lagan lagI ho use. dUsaronke parichayamen AnekI use ruchi nahIn hotI, jise AtmAkI ruchi hai use. phir bAhya sanyogake kAraN A jAye vah alag bAt hai, parantu usako svayamko ruchi nahIn hotI.

mumukShu- parasang hI karavAtA hai.

samAdhAna- shAstramen anek prakArakI bAten AtI hain. nimittakI orase bAt Aye, upAdAnakI orase bAt Aye. sab prakArakI bAt Aye, usamen nakkI svayamko karanA

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hai. gnAyakakI bAt Aye. ek dravya dUsare dravyakA kuchh karatA nahIn aisA Aye, dravya- guN-paryAy apane Apase svatantra hai. dUsareke svatantra hai. kriyA, kartA evan karma sab svayamkA hai, aisA bhI Aye. aur nimitta karavAtA hai, aisA bhI Aye. parasang hI karavAtA hai, aisA bhI Aye. un dononkA mel svayamko karanA paDatA hai. tU nimitta chhoD, aisA sab Aye, usakA mel svayamko karanA paDatA hai.

mumukShu- mel kaise karanA? donon shAstrake kathan hai.

samAdhAna- sab AchAyAke kathan hain. vyavahAr shAstramen, tattvArtha sUtra Adimen vyavahArakI bAt Aye aur adhyAtmamen adhyAtmakI bAt Aye. un sabakA mel karanA paDatA hai. vah AchArya bhI chhaThThe-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulane vAle the, vyavahArakI bAt karate hain. adhyAtmakI bAt karate hain, vah bhI chhaThThe-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulane vAle the. donon AchArya is prakAr kahate hain, isaliye usakA svayamko mel karanA paDatA hai. apekShA samajhanI.

AchAryadev kahate hain, koI dravyadRuShTikI bAt, koI paryAyakI bAt kare, koI nimittakI bAt kare, koI upAdAnakI bAt kare, anek jAtakI bAt AtI hai. (svayam) mel kar letA hai, vah koI nahIn karavAtA. andar lagan lagI ho vahI andar mel kar letA hai. svayam hI. vastu svayam anekAntamay mUrti-anekAnta svarUp hai. ananta dharmase bharI anekAntamay mUrti (hai). isaliye usakI sabhI bAten anekAntamay hotI hain. dravyadRuShTikI, paryAyakI anek prakArakI bAt hotI hai, usamense svayamko mel karanA paDatA hai.

vastu dravya, guN aur paryAy vAlI hai. akelA dravya hai, guN nahIn hai, paryAy nahIn hai aisA nahIn hai. dravya, guN, paryAy sab dravyamen hai. bhed apekShA Aye, abhed apekShA Aye.

... shAstramen kyA AtA hai, gurudevane kyA batAyA hai, unake pravachan, mUl shAstra samayasAr, pravachanasAr donommen AtA hai ki AtmAkA svarUp kyA hai, jAnaneke liye svAdhyAy karanA prayojanabhUt hai. vah sab hotA hai, parantu karanA antaramen hai. gurudevane mArga darshAyA, usakA sAthamen dhyey honA chAhiye. nahIn ho tabatak yah sab hotA hai. pUjA, svAdhyAy, bhakti. aur sachchA samajh, Age jAneke liye sachchI samajh aur antarakI laganI aur vah sachchI samajh-sachchA gnAn honeke liye svAdhyAy jarUrI hai. (AtmAkA) dhyey rakhanA, usamen sarvasva nahIn mAn lenA. karanekA antaramen hai, vah jabatak nahIn hotA tabatak svAdhyAy, pUjA, bhakti Adi hotA hai.

.. ananta kAlamen bahut huA. sabako aisA (bhAv rahatA hai ki), AtmAkA karanA, laganI lagAye, dhyey aisA rahatA hai aur svAdhyAy Adi sab karatA hai. darshan, pUjan sab hotA hai. jahAn gurudevakA mumukShu maNDal hai vahAn sab hotA hai. sarvasva AtmAmen

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hai. kalyAN antar dRuShTimen hai.

mumukShu- ... gnAnamen par bhinna hai aur main gnAyak bhinna hUn, rAg merA svarUp nahIn hai, vah bhI merese (bhinna hai), aisA bArambAr abhyAs karanese usake prati virakti bhAv sahaj hI A jAtA hogA?

samAdhAna- main gnAyak hUn aur yah bhinna hai, rAg bhinna hai. aisA bArambAr karanese virakti bhAv Aye, aisA nahIn. jise antarameense usakA ras chhUT jAye, use bhedagnAnakA bArambAr abhyAs chalatA hai. prayAs karanese virakti Aye aisA bhI hotA hai aur virakti ho to usase bhedagnAnakA abhyAs ho. gnAyakamen sab hai, sabakuchh gnAyakamen hai, sab gnAyakamen hai, yah rAg to AkUlatAmay hai. isaprakAr rAgase svayam pIchhe haTe to andar main gnAyak hUn, yah main nahIn, main gnAyak hUn, yah main nahIn. jise rAgakA ras hai vah rAgase bhinna nahIn paDatA. jise rAgakA ras chhUT jAtA hai, vah rAgase bhinna hotA hai.

rAgase bhinna paDanekA prayatna kab kare? ki rAgakA ras chhUTe to rAgase chhUTanekA prayatna kare. rAgamen ras, ekatvabuddhi ho vah bhinna nahIn paDatA. rAgakA ras chhUTakar antaramen gnAyakakA ras lage, gnAyakakI mahimA lage, gnAyakamen hI sabakuchh hai. gnAyakakA ras lage, usakI ruchi lage aur rAgakA ras chhUTe to usase bhinna paDatA hai.

mumukShu- rAgakA ras chhUTe ki rAg AkUlatArUp hai,...

samAdhAna- AkUlatArUp hai. sukharUp nahIn hai, AkUlatAmay hai. merA svabhAv nahIn hai. svayamko aisA nishchay ho, usakA ras chhUTe, aisI pratIt Aye to usase bhinna paDanekA prayatna kare. sachchI yathArtha pratIti alag hai, parantu pahale bhI use rAgakA ras chhUTe, yah merA svabhAv nahIn hai, AkUlatArUp hai, dukharUp hai, aisA use lage to usase chhUTanekA prayatna kare. aur usase bhedagnAn karanekA prayatna kare. main gnAyak jAnane vAlA, main sabase udAsIn, yah merA svarUp nahIn hai, aise bhinna paDanekA prayatna kare. aur is or gnAyakakI mahimA Aye to rAgakA ras chhUTe. gnAyakakI mahimA Aye to hI usakA ras chhUTe. rAg AkUlatArUp lage. samasta prakArakA vibhAvabhAv AkUlatArUp hai, aisA use antarase lage.

vah Age nahIn baDh sake aur shubhabhAvamen khaDA rahe, vah alag bAt hai, parantu use pratItamen aisA lage ki sab AkUlatArUp hI hai. andarase barAbar shraddhA honI chAhiye. to use bhinna paDanekA prayatna (chale).

mumukShu- ...

samAdhAna- vah to visheShatA hI hai. jainadarshan yathArtha hai. ek-ek pakSha. koI AtmAko ekAnta-ekAnta kahatA hai. ekAnta nitya kahe, koI ekAnta anitya kahatA

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hai, koI kisIse mukti kahe, koI kisase mukti kahe, usamen to bahut pheraphAr hai. jainadarshan to yathArtha hai. AtmAke dravya-guN-paryAy sab yathArtha bAt AtI hai. apekShAse AtmA nitya shAshvat hai, usakI paryAyamen anityatA hai, bAkI vAstavik vastu anitya nahIn hai. bahut prakArakI (bAt) andar (hai). muktikA mArga AtmAko pahachAne to hotA hai. bhedagnAn kare. bahut pheraphAr hai. svAnubhUti kaise ho? jainamen yathArtha mArga hai, aisA mArga kahIn nahIn hai. sabamen pheraphAr hai.

mumukShu- jainamen ham janme isaliye mAn lenA ki jain hI satya hai.

samAdhAna- janma huA isaliye mAn nahIn lenA, lekin vichAr karake mAnanA ki yathArtha jainadarshan satya hI hai. vichAr kare, yathArtha jignAsA ho to AtmAkA karanA hI hai to yathArtha mArga kyA hai, use svayam pahachAn sakatA hai. yathArtha satpuruShako pahachAn le, AtmAkA svarUp kaisA, kaun-sA mArga sachchA hai, vah samajh sakatA hai. aur apanI utanI shakti nahIn ho to svayam jo mahApuruSh ho gaye, unakI bAtakA svayam svIkAr karake, svayam vichAr karake nirNay kare. ye vItarAgI mArga hai. anyamen to koI-koI pheraphAr hai. gurukA, shAstramen sab alag AtA hai.

svatantratA jo jainadarshanamen AtI hai, aisI dUsaremen AtI nahIn. koI kar detA hai, kisIse hotA hai, kisIko koI detA hai, aisI anek jAtakI viparItatA hai. aisA nahIn ho sakatA. AtmA svatantra hai.

mumukShu- sabhI darshan vAle kahate hain, hamArA bhI satya hai.

samAdhAna- pratyek darshan vAle kahe, lekin vichAr karake svayamko nakkI karanA chAhiye. mukti honeke bAd vApas AtA hai, aisA anek prakArakA AtA hai. sab AtmA ek hai. sab ek ho to pratyekake sukh-dukhakA vedan bhinna-bhinna hotA hai, pratyekakI svatantratA (hai). kisIkA vedan anya kisIko nahIn hotA. vichAr karake sab nakkI ho sake aisA hai. puruShArtha kisake liye karanA? svayamke liye. svayam svatantra hai.

mumukShu- puruShArtha kaise karanA? aur bhedagnAnakI rIt kyA hai?

samAdhAna- puruShArtha AtmAko pahachAnanekA (karan). main ek jAnane vAlA hUn, vichAr karake nakkI kare ki ye jAnane vAlA jo andar hai vahI main hUn. ye jaD kuchh nahIn jAnatA. andar sankalpa-vikalpa rAg-dveSh hote hain, vah bhI svayamko nahIn jAnate. use jAnane vAlA andar koI alag hI hai. pahale bachapanamen jo-jo bhAv Aye vah bhAv to chale gaye, vikalpa (chale gaye) aur jAnane vAlA aisA hI khaDA hai. vah jAnane vAlA sab andar yAd karane vAlA bhinna hai aur ye sankalpa-vikalpa sab bhinna hain. sharIr bhI bhinna hai, isaprakAr vichAr karake nakkI kar sakatA hai. andar jo jAnane

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vAlA hai, vah main hUn. mAtra dUsareko jAne isaliye jAnane vAlA hai aise nahIn, parantu jAnane vAlA svayam jAnane vAlA hI hai.

jaise yah ek jaD vastu svayam hai. vaise AtmA jAnane vAlA bhI ek svayamsiddha vastu hai. jAnane vAlA main hUn. isaprakAr jAnane vAleko nakkI karake dRuDh nirNay karanA ki yah jAnane vAlA hI main hUn, usase ye sab bhinna hai. ye jaD sharIr bhinna, AtmA bhinna, vikalpa Akar chale jAye vah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. vah sab bhinna, main bhinna. svayamko svayamse nakkI karake bhedagnAn karanekA prayatna karanA. pahale usakI pratIt dRuDh kare ki ye jAnane vAlA hai vahI main hUn, anya nahIn. aisA nakkI karake jAnane vAlA shAshvat hai, usamen guN hai, jAnane vAlA gnAnase bharA, Anandase bharA, ananta guNase bharA AtmA mahimAvant hai. usakI mahimA lAkar, usakI pratIt lAkar dRuDh nirNay kare aur usakA prayAs karanekA prayatna kare.

ekatvabuddhi anAdise ho rahI hai, use bArambAr pratikShaN bhinna karanekA prayatna kare. vichAr karake, nirNay karake, jab tak nahIn hotA tab tak shAstrakA abhyAs kare, svAdhyAy kare, vichAr kare, vAnchan kare, bArambAr usakI laganI lagAye to hotA hai. bhedagnAn karanekA prayAs kare, main bhinna hUn. usase (-parase) bhinna paDe, sankalpa-vikalpa Aye usamen ekatva nahIn ho aur ras chhUT jAye. jise AtmAkI or ras lagA, use manda paD jAtA hai, sab chhUT nahIn jAtA, manda paD jAtA hai. ye jAnane vAlA gnAyak hai vahI main hUn. bhedagnAn karanA vahI mArga hai. aur usakA prayAs karate-karate yadi antarase sachchA prayatna ho to use svAnubhUti bhI usI bhedagnAnake mArgase hotI hai. dUsarA koI mArga nahIn hai.

abhI kitane hI samajhe binA dhyAn karane baiTh jAte hain. parantu samajh binAkA dhyAn tarangarUp ho jAtA hai. pahale mArga jAnanA chAhiye, yathArtha gnAn karanA chAhiye ki jAnane vAlA hai vahI main hUn. isaprakAr jAnane vAlekI pratIti karake usamen lInatA kare, ekAgra ho to sachchA dhyAn hotA hai. nahIn to sachchA dhyAn nahIn hotA. dhyAnamen baiThe to vikalpa manda paDe, to mAno kuchh ho gayA, aisA mAn letA hai. yathArtha bhedagnAn kare, AtmAko pahachAne aur usamen dhyAn ho to yathArtha hotA hai. pahale bhedagnAn karanekA prayAs kare. dravyako pahachAnanekA (prayAs kare), dravya par dRuShTi sthir kare ki, yah dravya hai vahI main hUn, bAkI sab mujhase bhinna hai. apane dravyako pahachAne, guN aur paryAy, sabakA svarUp pahachAne. yah chaitanyadravya hai vahI main hUn, aisI dRuDhatA kare.

pahale mArgako nakkI karanA. svabhAvako barAbar vichAre. apane hAthakI bAt hai, jignAsu nakkI karatA hai. ... gurudevane vANI barasAyI, sab log kahAn the, ye vItarAgI mArga yathArtha hai, kitane hI rItase spaShTa kar-karake samajhAyA hai. kahIn kisIko pUchhane jAnA

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paDe aisA nahIn hai. svayamko prayatna karanA bAkI hai, itanA gurudevane svAnubhUtikA mArga darshAyA hai. pahalese samajhA diyA hai. koI shankA hI nahIn rahe. koI dUsare darshan kyA kahate hain, usakI bhI shankA nahIn rahe, aisA unakI vANImen sab spaShTa AtA thA.

mumukShu- bhale samyagdarshan prApta nahIn ho, lekin usake jo sanskAr hai, vah kitane pramANamen apane sAth Ate hain?

samAdhAna- gahare sanskAr ho to sAth Ate hain. Upar-Uparase ho, jaise bAkI sab rUDhigat rUpase dharma karate hain ki dharma karanA chAhiye, aise rUDhigatarUpase ho to sAth nahIn Ate. parantu gahare sanskAr ho aur andar sachchI lagan lagI ho ki mujhe AtmA prApta karanA hI hai, mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho, ye vibhAv mujhe nahIn chAhiye, ye sab AkUlatArUp hai, mujhe AtmA kaise mile, aisI andarakI lagan lagI ho to vah sAth Ate hain.

mumuukShu- aisI lagan lagI ho, parantu utanA bhedagnAn nahIn kiyA ho to? samAdhAna- bhale bhedagnAn nahIn kiyA ho, lekin lagan lagI ho to vah laganI, svayamkI laganI antarakI ho to vah sAth Ate hain, bhedagnAn bhale nahIn ho.

mumukShu- .. shurUAt karane ke liye bhedagnAn visheSh kaise karanA?

samAdhAna- pahale to AtmAko pahachAnanA ki AtmA kaun hai? main ek AtmA hUn, ye jAnane vAlA, jAnatA hai vah main hUn, ye jAnatA nahIn hai vah jaD hai. andar jo jAnane vAlA hai, vah main hUn. jAnane vAlA gnAn, Anandase bharA AtmA hai. us AtmAkA vishvAs karanA ki yah AtmA jAnane vAlA hai vahI main hUn. andar jo AkUlatA hotI hai, sankalpa-vikalpa, anek prakArake vikalpa hote hain, vah vikalpa bhI merA svabhAv nahIn hai, main usase bhinna hUn. aisI andar dRuDhatA kare, bArambAr usakA abhyAs kare.