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mumukShu- ... pahale kis prakArase lakShaN dvArA...?

samAdhAna- bhedagnAnase yah main hUn, yah nahIn hUn. to darshan...?

mumukShu- kis lakShaNase?

samAdhAna- gnAn lakShaNase grahaN hotA hai. bhedavignAnamen aisA AtA hai, yah main hUn. yah gnAnalakShaN jisakA hai, vah AtmA main hUn. aur vibhAv lakShaN hai vah main nahIn hUn. jo AkulatA lakShaN hai vah vibhAvakA hai aur jo gnAn lakShaN hai vah main hUn. usakA lakShaN gnAyak lakShaN hai. gnAyakakA jAnanevAlA lakShaN vah main hUn. gnAnamen shAnti hai, gnAnamen sukh hai, sab gnAnamen hai.

shAstramen AtA hai ki itanA hI satyArtha kalyAN hai, itanA hI paramArtha AtmA hai, jitanA yah gnAn hai. isamen santuShTa ho, isamen ruchi kar, isamen tRupta ho. koI kahe, akele gnAnamen sukh aur Ananda? gnAnamen sukh aur Ananda bharA hai. isamen tU ruchi kar, isamen prIti kar, isamen tRupta ho. jitanA gnAn hai utanA paramArtha svarUp AtmA hai. usamen kalyAN hai. sab isamen pragaT hotA hai. isaliye jo AkulatA hai vah main nahIn hUn, vah vibhAv lakShaN hai. gnAn lakShaN hai vah AtmA hai. ek kalyAN svarUp hai, satyArtha padArtha AtmA hai, vahI hai. gnAn, jitanA gnAn hai vah AtmA hai. usamen dRuShTi karanese, bhedagnAn karanese isamen sukh aur isamen-se Ananda pragaT hotA hai. isaliye isamen hI tRupta ho, isamen hI ruchi kar, isamen prIti kara. shAstramen AtA hai.

AtmAmen sab bharA hai, sampUrNa sab isamen bharA hai.

isamen sadA prIti kar, ruchi kar, santuShTa ho, usamen tRupta ho. usamen-se uttam sukh pragaT hogA. antar-se pragaT hogA, kisIko pUchhanA nahIn paDegA. tere antaramen-se sukh pragaT hogA.

samAdhAna- .. pariNAmakA gnAn hotA hai, pariNAmako jAnatA hai. main svayam gnAnasvarUp AtmA hI hUn, aisA gnAn hotA hai. pariNAmako jAne vah gnAn, aise to jAnatA hai

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to ek lakShaN jAnanemen AyA ki yah pariNAm hai, yah pariNAm hai, yah pariNAm hai. pariNAmako jAnatA hai vah AtmA svayam gnAyak astitva hai, vahI main AtmA hUn. jo jAnanekA astitva gnAyak AtmA vahI main hUn. pariNAm pariNAmako jAnatA hai vah to kShaN-kShaNakI paryAy hotI hai, kShaNik gnAn aisA nahIn. main akhaNDa gnAyak svabhAv hUn. usako ...

sabako ek dhArAvAhI akhaNDa jAnanevAlA hai vah main hUn. gnAyak svabhAv main (hUn). pariNAm chale jAte hain. bachapanase baDA huA, aisA huA, vah sab pariNAm chale gaye. jAnanevAlA to vahI hai, jo jAnanevAlA hai, bachapanakA, usake bAdakA, usake bAdakA jAnanevAlA to vahI kA vahI hai. jAnanekA astitva jo dharanevAlA hai, jAnanekA astitva jisamen vah gnAyakakA astitva main hI hUn. vibhAvaparyAy, vibhAvako jAnanevAlA aur ek- ek gney khaNDa-khaNDa gneyako jAnanevAlA vah main nahIn hUn, akhaNDa gnAyak svabhAv main hUn. gnAyak jAnanekA astitva dharanevAlA vah main hUn.

jAnanevAlA pariNAmako jAnatA hai, koI jAnanevAlA tattva (hai). parantu khaNDa khaNDako nahIn grahaN karanA, akhaNDako grahaN karanA. dravya par dRuShTi karanA. vibhAvaparyAy nahIn hUn, bhedakA vikalpa bhI merA mUl svabhAv nahIn hai. kevalagnAnakI paryAy, adhUrI paryAy vah bhI paryAy pragaT hotI hai, gnAnamen jAnanemen AtA hai, parantu main akhaNDa shAshvat anAdiananta dravya hUn. isamen koI vibhAv Anese usakI shakti manda ho gayI, aisA nahIn. main to ananta shakti(vAn), jaisA hai vaisA hI main ananta shaktisvarUp AtmA hI hUn. sAdhanAkI paryAy pragaT hotI hai, vah jAnanemen AtI hai ki isamen adhUrI, pUrI paryAy sab hotI hai. parantu main akhaNDa gnAyak svabhAvI AtmA hUn, aisA grahaN karanA chAhiye.

mumukShu- ... usake pUrva kaise vichAr hote hain? kisakA chintavan, gholan rahatA hogA? bhAvanA kaisI hotI hogI ki jisase hamArI sAdhanAmen puShTi ho?

samAdhAna- sabako ek jAtikA ho aisA nahIn hotA. anek prakAr (hotA hai). AtmAkA dhyey honA chAhiye. AtmAkI prApti kaise ho? AtmAmen-se sukh kaise prApta ho? yah antaramen rahanA chAhiye. vAnchan kisakA hotA hai? vichAr kaise hote hain? us vakta to kahAn digambarake itane shAstra bAhar nahIn Aye the. vichAr to, tattva kyA hai? vastu kyA hai? AtmA kyA hai? AtmAmen sukh hai, ye vibhAvamen sukh nahIn hai. us sambandhit, AtmA sambandhit vichAr hote hain.

gurudev vyAkhyAnamen koI apUrva bAt kahate the ki AtmA bhinna hai, yah sharIr bhinna hai. ye vikalpa bhinna, andar AtmA virAjatA hai, usamen nirvikalpa Ananda pragaT hotA hai. aisI bAten gurudev anek prakArakI karate the. tU puruShArtha kar to hotA hai. karma

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rokatA nahIn hai, nij upAdAnase hI hotA hai. aisI anek prakArakI pravachanamen bAt AtI thI, us parase vichAr (Ate the).

main kaun hUn? merA svarUp kyA hai? aise anek prakArake vichAr Ate the. ek hI prakArake Aye aisA nahIn hotA. vastukA kyA svarUp hai? tattva kyA hai? AtmA shAshvat kaise hai? paryAyamen anityatA kaise hai? anek prakArake vichAr Ate hain. jise jis prakArakI antaramen shankA hotI hai, us jAtake vichAr Ate hain.

mUl AtmAkI prApti kaise ho? AtmAmen-se sukh kaise ho? us jAtakA dhyey honA chAhiye. phir kisIko kis prakArake vichAr Aye, vah svayamkI yogyatA par AdhArit hai. mUl tattva sambandhi vichAr hone chAhiye. AtmA vastu kyA hai? usakI paryAy kyA hai? usake guN kyA hai? ye vibhAv hai, vibhAvamen sukh nahIn hai, vibhAvamen AkulatA hai. is svabhAvamen sukh hai. aise, us sambandhit vichAr Ane chAhiye. us jAtakA gholan, us jAtakA manan, us jAtakI pratItikI dRuDhatA karanekA prayAs vah sab (hotA hai). usIkI laganI, kShaN-kShaNamen usake vichAr, kShaN-kShaNamen usakA dhyAn, vichAr Adi lambe samay usIkI ekAgratA chalatI rahe, usIke vichAr chalate rahe. do-tIn ghaNTe, pUrA din aur rAt vahI chalatA rahatA thA.

mumukShu- ham log vaDhavAN gaye the. mAmAne sab bAt kahI ki ApakI mAmAke sAth charchA hotI thI. to us charchAmen mukhya viShay kyA thA? ki jisase hamen puShTi mile.

samAdhAna- abhI Ap logoko gurudev-se kitanA milA hai! andar ek prayatna karanA hI bAkI rahA hai. bhedagnAnakA kyA svarUp hai? ye do tattva bhinna, dravya-guN- paryAy kyA, utpAd-vyay-dhruv kyA, sab gurudevane aisA spaShTa kar diyA hai. AtmA nitya kaise? dravya nitya kaise? paryAyamen anityatA hai, guNake bhed par dRuShTi nahIn karanI, paryAyabhed par dRuShTi nahIn karanI, akhaNDa par dRuShTi karanI. sab gnAn karanA. abhI to bahut milA hai.

un dinommen to yah koI bAt thI nahIn. abhI to kyA satya hai? usake vichAr chalate the. vastu tattva kyA satya hai? jagatamen anek jAtake matabhed hain, usamen yathArtha kyA hai? aisI charchA chalatI thI. usamen himmatabhAIko to bahut jAtake vichAr (Ate the), unhen bhI utane vichAr chalate the, mujhe bhI utane vichAr chalate the. prayatna chalatA rahatA thA ki satya kyA hai? anek jAtake mat jagatamen hai, usamen yathArtha kyA hai? us jAtakI charchA chalatI thI. usamense nakkI (kiyA).

usamen gurudev kyA kahate hain? us prakArase vichAr chalate the. parantu yathArtha tattva kyA hai? usake vichAr chalate the. himmatabhAI bhI utane vichAr karate the, yahAn mujhe bhI

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itane vichAr chalate the. gurudevane pravachan karake itanA spaShTa kar diyA hai ki kisIko kahIn shankA rahe aisA nahIn rahA hai. andar bhedagnAn (karanA bAkI rahatA hai). sab taiyAr karake gurudevane mAl diyA hai. andar svayamko pariNati karanI bAkI rahatI hai. un dinommen to anek jAtake vichAr (Ate the).

shAstramen kyA AtA hai? itane shAstra nahIn paDhe the. tattva kyA sachchA hai, abhI to yah nirNay karanA bAkI thA. shubhamen dharma nahIn hai, shubhamen AkulatA hai. Uchchase uchcha shubhabhAv puNyabandha AkulatA kaise hai? un dinommen abhI to yah nakkI karanA thA. bAhya kriyAmen dharma nahIn hai, shubhabhAvamen dharma nahIn hai. devalok mile vah bhI AkulatA hai. yah sab kis prakArase hai? yah sab nirNay karanA thA, abhI to sthUl nirNay karanA thA. abhI to sUkShmamen Age jAnA bAkI thA.

usamen-se main gnAyak hUn, yah vibhAv bhI merA svabhAv nahIn hai. yahAn tak andar pahunchanA thA. vichAr kar-karake nirNay karanA thA. shubhabhAvamen dharma nahIn hai. ananta bAr devalok milA, vahAn-se vApas AyA. gurudev kahate the, chamaDI utArakar namak chhiDake aisI kriyA kI, to bhI use dharma nahIn huA hai. to bhI use svabhAv pragaT nahIn huA. yah sab kaise hai? abhI to vichAr karake yah sab nakkI karanA thA. aisI sab charchA chalatI thI.

usamen-se nirNay karake yah bhedagnAn, yah svabhAv, chaitanya gnAyak svabhAv vah main hUn aur yah vibhAv main nahIn hUn, usamen-se nakkI-dRuDhatA karake, us mArga par dRuDhatA karake Age usIkI dRuDhatA, usIkA dhyAn do-tIn ghaNTa tak vahI chalA karatA thA. aur pUrA din aur rAt vahI chalatA thA. main gnAyak hUn aur yah main nahIn hUn. antaramen- se hI yah chalatA rahatA thA.

abhI to darshan kaun-sA satya hai? abhI to shvetAmbar-digambar kyA? abhI to vah bhI pUrA bAhar nahIn AyA thA. usamen-se mUl tattva grahaN karanA thA. kisIko pUchhane jAy, sAgarAnandako pUchhane jAy, rAmavijayako pUchhane jAy, derAvAsI sAdhuko pUchhane jAy, kahAn-kahAn sabako pUchhate the. main to andarase prashna-charchA karatI thI. pahalekI bAt aur abhIkI bAt (alag hai). Apako to sab pUrA-pUrA mil gayA hai. andar karanekA hai.

mumukShu- ratanabahinako pUchhane jAte the.

samAdhAna- hAn, ratanabahinako pUchhane jAte the. kuchh nayA ho, koI AyA ho athavA koI dhyAn karatA hai aur koI AtmA (sunAtA hai), dekhane jAte the. abhI to sab nayA lagatA thA.

mumukShu- unako vaDhavANakI bAten bahut achchhI lagI. kal kahate the. vaDhavANakI

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bAtase mujhe dRuDh huA ki sonagaDhamen hI rahanA. ... "mAnAdik shatru mahA nij chhande na marAy, jAtA sadaguru sharaNamAn...' satpuruShake sharaNamen rahanA vah mujhe dRuDh ho gayA. pahale vichAr AtA thA, parantu ApakI bachapanakI bAten sunakar.. ye donon bhAIonne kahA, .... mujhe chhoDakar A jAnA hai. kal kahate the.

samAdhAna- (charchA) chalatI thI, usamen-se nakkI karate the ki satya kyA hai? lekin gurudev kuchh apUrva kahate hain, aisA mujhe bhI lagatA thA aur himmatabhAIko bhI lagatA thA ki yah koI apUrva bAt hai. is rAstese nakkI ho sake aisA hai. samyagdarshan koI alag vastu gurudev batAte hain. sab shAstrommen to, us vakta to shvetAmbarake shAstra the na, nau tattvako jAn liyA vah shraddhA, aur yah sab jUThA hai. gurudev to kuchh antarakI shraddhA kahate hain. phir nakkI karake usakI charchA karate, usamen-se nakkI ho gayA ki bas, yah gnAyak svabhAv... sukh andarase pragaT karanA. ye gnAyakasvabhAv jAnanevAlA so main aur yah vibhAv main nahIn hUn. gurudev kahate the, Uchchase uchcha shubhabhAv bhI puNyabandhakA kAraN hai. devalok ho, parantu vah AtmAkA svabhAv nahIn hai.

us vakta kahate the ki, bhagavAnako dayA nahIn hotI. aisA kahate the to aisA lagatA thA ki ye kyA kahate hain? Ashcharya lagatA thA. dayA vah shubhabhAv hai. dayA shubhabhAv kaise hogA? ekadam shurUAt thI na. isaliye aisA lagatA thA.

mumukShu- ..kumArake bhavakA prakhyAt dRuShTAnta thA.

samAdhAna- hAn. aise bhagavAn ananta karuNAvanta kahalAye aur aise bhagavAnako dayA-shubhabhAv bhagavAnako nahIn hotA. isaliye dayAkA bhAv nahIn hotA aur aise bhagavAn ananta karuNAvant kahalAye. ye sabakA kaise mel hai? aisA hotA thA.

phir aisA kahate the ki shubhabhAv vah vikalpa hai, puNyabandhakA kAraN hai. karuNA to bhagavAnako akaShAy karuNA hai, unakI vANI barasatI hai. vibhAvase AtmA bhinna hai, yah nakkI karanA thA. phir guNabhed, paryAyabhed vah sab to usase bhI Age the. AtmAmen ananta guN hain, paryAy kShaN-kShaNamen pariNamatI hai. us bhed par bhI dRuShTi karake abhed gnAyak par dRuShTi karanI. yathArtha samyagdarshan to AtmA par dRuShTi kare to hI pragaT ho. vah Age thA.

parantu ek gnAyakakA astitva grahaN hone par usamen sab A jAtA hai. usamen ek gnAyakakA astitva grahaN karane par usamen bhedagnAnakI dhArA (chalatI hai ki), yah main hUn aur yah nahIn hUn. gnAyakakA astitva grahaN kare usamen abhed dRuShTi us par jAye to usamen sab samAviShTa ho jAtA hai. ek ansh pragaT huA, svarUpakI or gayA, shuddhAtmAkI ek paryAy samyagdarshan (pragaT huyI). svabhAv-orakA apanA ek ansh pragaT

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huA. usamen use sab gnAt ho jAtA hai. ek gnAyakako jAnane par usamen sab A jAtA hai.

phir gaharI-gaharI spaShTatA to gurudevake pravachanamen dhIre-dhIre AtI thI. pahale to AtmA bhinna, andar nirvikalpa svAnubhUti hotI hai, vikalpase bhinna, shubhabhAvase bhinna. samayasAr shAstra sabhAmen rAjakoTamen paDhA. usake pahale to shvetAmbar paDhate the na, usamen-se sab AtmA par kahate the.

sahaj svabhAv hai, us par dRuShTi kare. us par dRuShTi karake vikalpase bhinna ho to antaramen svAnubhUti hotI hai. andar Ananda sAgar pragaT hotA hai, aisA gurudev bolate the tab aisA lagatA thA ki ye Ananda sAgar andar pragaT hotA hai, gurudev ye kaisI bAt karate hain? Ananda sAgar pragaT hotA hai (to) andar AtmAmen kaisA Ananda sAgar hogA? gnAnakA sAgar aur AnandakA sAgar bolate the.

mumukShu- Ananda sAgar.. kis prakArase usamen...?

samAdhAna- vah to andarakI svayamkI jignAsAse hI sab Age chalatA hai. main is gnAyakakA astitva grahaN karun, usamen sab hai. gnAyakamen sab bharA hI hai. svayam vichAr kare, andarase pratItikI dRuDhatA svayamko A jAtI hai ki is gnAyakake astitvamen sab (bharA hai), gnAyak svabhAvamen sab bharA hI hai. aisA andarase vichAr karake andarase aisI dRuDhatA A jAtI hai. ye vibhAv main nahIn hUn. svabhAvamen jo ho vah pragaT hotA hai. bas, mujhe ek svabhAv chAhiye, dUsarA kuchh nahIn chAhiye. svabhAvakA astitva hI grahaN kar lenA. usImen sab bharA hai.

ek gnAyak astitva merA svabhAv mujhe chAhiye, dUsarA kuchh nahIn chAhiye. anya sab spRuhA jise chhUT jAya. aisA nispRuh hokar ek gnAyakakA astitva grahaN kar letA hai. usamen lambe vichAr, vikalpakI jAlako chhoDakar astitvako grahaN karake andar lIn ho jAy to jo ho vah use pragaT hotA hai. andar Ananda sAgar bharA hai. usamen pratItimen dRuDh ho jAtA hai ki isImen sab bharA hai.