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mumukShu- Apane ek bolamen kahA hai ki utkRuShTa mumukShuko mArga na mile to ulajhanamen nahIn A jAtA. vahIn chakkar lagAtA rahe. vahAn yahI rIt hai?
samAdhAna- vahIn Tahel lagAtA rahe.
mumukShu- yahI rIt na?
samAdhAna- hAn, yahI rIta. yathArtha nirNay karake vahIn abhyAs karatA rahe ki yah gnAyakakA astitva jo nirmal astitva hai vahI main hUn, yah main nahIn hUn. jo shuddhatAse bharA hai vahI main hUn, yah main nahIn hUn. gnAyakakI mahimA lagI ho, gnAyak vahI main, usImen sarvasvatA lagI ho to bArambAr vahAn abhyAs karatA hI rahe, bArambAr Tahel lagAtA hI rahe.
mumukShu- aisA sab meremen hai, vahI svarUpakI mahimA?
samAdhAna- merA sarvasva meremen hai, bAhar kuchh nahIn hai.
mumukShu- bhale upayog sUkShma hokar kArya na kar sakatA ho, to bhI pratItimen, isIse mujhe lAbh hai, vah vartamAn pAtra hai. to jIvan AtmAmay banA lenA, yah anubhav hone pUrvakI Ap bAt karate ho. jignAsukI bhUmikAmen jIvan AtmAmay banA lenA usakA artha kyA?
samAdhAna- ek AtmA hI chAhiye, dUsarA kuchh nahIn chAhiye. AtmAmay yAnI usamen gnAyakakA astitva vah main, vah mujhe kaise grahaN ho? bas, usIkA abhyAs karate rahanA. AtmAmay jIvana. dUsarA kuchh nahIn chAhiye. ek AtmA chAhiye. isaliye AtmA kaise prApta ho? gnAyak kaise grahaN ho? us may jIvan-AtmAmaya. sarva kAryamen use prayojan AtmAkA hai. mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho? vah AtmAmay jIvana.
mumukShu- sarva kAryamen AtmAkA prayojan rahanA chAhiye?
samAdhAna- prayojan AtmAk rahanA chAhiye.
mumukShu- AtmAkA (prayojan) rahanA vah, jIvan AtmAmay kare lenekA artha hai.
samAdhAna- jIvan AtmAmay kar lenA.
mumukShu- upayog sUkShma hokar..
samAdhAna- use grahaN karanemen der lage, parantu usakA hetu yah hai. yah gnAyak
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kaise grahaN ho? gnAyakakA astitva kaise grahaN ho?
mumukShu- gnAnake nirNayamen aisA honA chAhiye ki is kAryase hI mujhe lAbh hai. vah vartamAn pAtra hai.
samAdhAna- isase mujhe lAbh hai, is prakAr bArambAr usakA abhyAs rahe, gholan chalatA rahe. gnAyak kaise grahaN ho? gnAyakakI mahimA lagatI rahe.
mumukShu- ... tab tak tattvakA gholan, tattva vichAr karanA. tattva vichAr mAne bAhya vichAr nahIn parantu jo Ap kahate ho vah?
samAdhAna- prayojanabhUt tattva vichAra.
mumukShu- kyonki bAhya shAstrakA gholan ho, use to koI rAstA hI nahIn hai. chAhe jitanA shAstragnAn kShayopasham ho, vah gholan nahIn hai.
samAdhAna- vah gholan nahIn. mUl tattvakA gholan, chaitanyakA gholana. andarakA gholan, tattva vichAra. phir usamen jyAdA Tik na sake to shAstrake vichAr Aye vah alag bAt hai. parantu prayojanabhUt yah tattva vichAra. main chaitanya dravya, mere guN, merI paryAy vah main. main sabase nyArA hUn, kaise nyArA hoUn? mujhe antaramen-se bhedagnAn kaise pragaT ho? aise vichAra.
.. bhagavAnake, guruke Anganamen Tahale lagAye, us prakAr gnAyakako grahaN karaneke liye gnAyakakI or bArambAr Tahel lagAtA rahe. bArambAr usIkA abhyAs karatA rahe.
mumukShu- ..
samAdhAna- bhagavAnake darshanake liye, jise bhagavAnake darshanakI bhAvanA hai, bAharase, to vah bhagavAnake mandir par, bhagavAnake dvAr par Tahel lagAtA hai ki bhagavAnake dvAr khule aur darshan ho. aise guruke darshan hetu guruke Anganamen Tahel lagAye. aise chaitanyake Anganamen Tahel lagAtA rahe ki chaitanyake darshan kaise ho? chaitanyakA svabhAv kyA? chaitanya kaise svabhAvakA hai? usakI mahimA kyA? is prakAr bArambAr Tahel-usakA abhyAs karatA rahe.
mumukShu- bahut bAten AtI hain.
samAdhAna- vahAn bhagavAnake dvArase chhUT jAy, thak jAy to kuchh nahIn hotA. isaliye kahate hain, andarase thakanA nahIn.
mumukShu- thakanA nahIn chAhiye, nirAsh nahIn honA chAhiye.
samAdhAna- nirAsh nahIn honA chAhiye. gurukI mahimA lage to guruke Anganamen guruke darshanake liye Tahel lagAtA hai. is prakAr yah chaitanyake Anganamen bArambAr chaitanyake vichAr, chaitanyakA abhyAs, usIkA raTan honA chAhiye. yah dRuShTAnta dev-guru-shAstrakA.
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antaramen AtmA. .. grahaN nahIn hotA hai isaliye chhoD nahIn denA. antaramen jo sanskAr DAle hain, vah andaramen-se use kArya kiye binA nahIn rahenge.
mumukShu- ... utanI vyavahAru shraddhA rakhakar use shurUAt karanI chAhiye.
samAdhAna- bAharase. antaramenn gnAyaka.
mumukShu- unhen sAthamen rakhanA hai, kArya svayam apanese karanA hai.
samAdhAna- kArya svayamko karanA hai, antaramen karanA hai.
mumukShu- ..
samAdhAna- bArambAr AtmAkA vichAr karanA. main AtmA kaun hUn? merA svabhAv kyA hai? bArambAr ruchi AtmA-or karate rahanA. AtmA sarvasva hai, ye sab kuchh nahIn hai, isamen kuchh sAr nahIn hai, sArabhUt AtmA hai. anAdikA abhyAs hai isaliye vikalpa AtA hai. to bArambAr usako palaT denA, abhyAs karake. AkulatA nahIn karanA. ruchi palaTakarake puruShArtha karake palaT denA. tattvakA vichAr karanA, shAstrakA vichAr karanA, AtmAkA vichAr karanA, vikalpa..
mumukShu- aisA manamen hotA hai ki itane din apane nikal gaye, ab kyA karen? kab dhyAn AyegA? aisA vichAr AtA hai. phir kyA karanA?
samAdhAna- bArambAr abhyAs karanA, bArambAr karanA. satsang karanA, shravaN karanA, manan karanA. jo samajhamen Ave vah paDhanA. koI bAr pravachan..
mumukShu- nahIn, baDA shAstra paDhate hain to do dinamen dimAgase nikal jAtI hai, dhyAnamen nahIn rahatI hai.
samAdhAna- gurudevake pravachan (sunanA). samAdhAna- dRuShTi par-or hai. upayog bAhar jAtA hai. dRuShTi AtmA or kare ki main gnAyak hUn. gnAyak par dRuShTa kare to gnAyakakA anubhav hove. gnAyakamen jo gnAn, darshan, Ananda guN hai. dRuShTi bAhar jAtI hai, upayog bAhar jAtA hai. isaliye usakA anubhav hotA hai. dishA badal de, dishA palaT de. main to AtmA hUn, ye sab main nahIn hUn. vibhAvabhAv main nahIn hUn. paragney jo paradravya hai vah bhI main nahIn hUn. jo gney dekhanemen Ate hain, vah merA svarUp nahIn hai. vah to par hai, main chaitanyatattva hUn. isaliye upayog palaT de, badal de. dRuShTi apanI or sthApit kare to apanA anubhav hotA hai.
.. bAhar bhaTakatA hai. chaitanyamen upayog sthir kare to apanA anubhav hotA hai. usakA bhedagnAn kare. main chaitanya hUn, yah main nahIn hUn. ye paradravya hai, sab gney hain. vibhAvabhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai. usase bhinna AtmAko pahachAnanA.
mumukShu- pakaDamen to AtA nahIn.
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samAdhAna- pakaDamen to bhItaramen usakI ruchi, mahimA kare to pakaDamen Ave. apanA svabhAv hai, pakaDamen nahIn Ave aisA to nahIn hai. pakaDamen to A (sakatA hai). sUkShma upayog kare, usakI mahimA kare, ruchi kare to pakaDamen Ave. vah gnAn dvArA pakaDamen AtA hai. yadi yathArtha gnAn kare to pakaDamen Ave. usako grahaN karake ananta jIv mokShamen gaye haiain aur jAte hain, jAnevAle hain. apane pakaDamen AtA hai. jo usakI ruchi kare usako pakaDamen AtA hai, usakI mahimA kare to pakaDamen AtA hai.
bhUtakAlamen ananta jIv (mokShamen) gaye, sab AtmAkI ArAdhanA karake, gnAyakakA dhyAn karake, gnAyakakI pratIt karake aur upayog apanemen sthir karake AnandakA anubhav karate-karate vItarAg dashA pragaT hokar mokSha gaye. ananta kAlamen vah mArga to ek hI hai. vartamAnamen mahAvideh kShetramen bhI yahI mArga hai. chaitanyamen upayog sthir kare, usakI dRuShTi usamen sthApit kare to muktikA ansh pragaT hotA hai. usamen visheSh ArAdhanA kare to vItarAg dashA hotI hai. bhaviShyamen isI mArgase jAyenge.
bAhya kriyA ananta kAlamen karI, shubh rAg kiyA, puNya bandha huA, devalok huA lekin muktikA mArga nahIn huA. munipanA liyA, sab liyA, bAhya kriyA karI, parantu antar svabhAv gnAnakA pariNaman pragaT nahIn kiyA, isaliye svAnubhUti pragaT nahIn huyI. antar chaitanyako pahachAnakar svabhAvakA pariNaman, svabhAvakI kriyA pragaT kare, svabhAvamen lIn hove to pragaT hotA hai. svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. usase muktikA mArga milatA hai. svAnubhUti baDhate-baDhate munidashA AtI hai aur usImen vItarAg dashA hotI hai, usImen kevalagnAn hotA hai. mArga ek hI hai.
mumukShu- shuddhAtmAke sAdhak dharmAtmAkI ek hI samayamen AsravarUp, samvararUp aur nirjarArUp bhAv pravartate hain. to usamen AsravarUp bhAvonkA ShaTakArak pariNaman kisake AdhArase hotA hai? aur samvararUp bhAvonkA evan nirjarArUp bhAvonkA ShaTakArak pariNaman kisake AdhArase hotA hai? yah kRupA karake hamen samajhAIye.
samAdhAna- Asrav aur samvara. samvar to shuddhAtmAkI or dRuShTi sthApe to shuddhAtmAkI paryAy shuddhAtmAmen-se hotI hai. shuddhAtmAkI or puruShArtha kare to shuddhAtmAkA gnAn kare, usamen dRuShTi kare, usamen lInatA kare. shuddhAtmAkI paryAy shuddhAtmAmen-se pragaT hotI hai. AsravakI paryAy vibhAvabhAv hai. apane puruShArthakI mandatAse (hotA hai). jitane anshamen samvar huA, utanA samvar hai. jitanI ashuddhatA hai, utane anshamen ashuddhatA Asrav hai. aur jitane anshamen vItarAg dashA huyI, utane anshamen samvar hai.
samvarakI paryAy shuddhAtmAke Ashrayase hotI hai. aur abhI alpa hai, pUrNa nahIn hai, isaliye Asrav bhI alpa hai, samvar bhI hai aur nirjarA bhI hai. sab hotA hai. sab
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ek sAth sAdhakadashAkI paryAyamen rahate hain. (AtmAmen) lIn hote-hote kevalagnAn hotA hai. ansh hove to samvar aur visheSh shuddhi honese nirjarA hotI hai aur alpa vibhAv hai isaliye Asrav hotA hai. sab ek sAth hote hain.
gnAnadhArA aur udayadhArA sAthamen rahatI hai. abhI pUrNa nahIn huA hai, isaliye Asrav bhI alpa rahatA hai, samvar bhI hotA hai, nirjarA bhI hotI hai, sab hotA hai. Asrav koI Upar-Upar nahIn hotA aur samvar bhI Upar-Upar nahIn hotA. shuddhAtmAkI dRuShTi karane-se, main anAdiananta shAshvat hUn, aisI dRuShTi karane-se, usakA gnAn karane-se, usamen lInatA karane-se samvar hotA hai. usakI alpatA hai, pUrNa shuddhi nahIn huyI hai isaliye Asrav bhI rahatA hai.
vibhAvakA nimitta karma hai aur apane puruShArthakI mandatA hai. puruShArthakI mandatAse utanA vibhAv hotA hai. jitanA puruShArtha huA, gnAnadhArA pragaT huyI utanA samvar hotA hai. sAdhakadashA hai na. dravya par dRuShTi hai. anAdiananta dravya shuddha hai to sAdhak dashAmen shuddhi, ashuddhi ye sab sAthamen rahate hain. gnAnadhArA aur udayadhArA. bhedagnAnakI dhArAmen sab rahatA hai. pUrNatA hove to akelI vItarAg dashA (hotI hai). sAdhak dashAmen do dhArA rahatI hai, do dhArA chalatI hai.
paryAy svatantra hai. lekin paryAy Upar-Upar nahIn hotI hai, dravyake Ashrayase hotI hai. paryAy Upar-Upar hove to paryAy dravya ho jAya. dravyake Ashrayase paryAy hotI hai. paryAy svatantra hai to bhI dravyake Ashrayase paryAy hotI hai.
mumukShu- hamAre yahAn mandir nahIn hai, to shvetAmbar mandiramen jAye to hamArA kyA nukasAn hotA hai? ... shvetAmbar mandiramen nahIn hai, to usamen hamArA kyA ahit hotA hai? ham dev-guru-shAstrakI, AtmAkI bAt sunate hain, samajhate hain, phir bhI usamen hamArA kyA nukasAn hotA hai?
samAdhAna- bAharameen kyA karanA vah ApoAp samajhamen AyagA. aur gnAyak main hUn, yah chaitanya svabhAv main hUn aur vibhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai. ye jaDatattva hai. sharIr bhinna hai, vibhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai, main gnAyak hUn. aisI bhedagnAnakI bAt samajho, phir yathArtha dev-guru-shAstra kaise hote hain, vah apaneAp A jAyagA. phir nukasAn kyA hotA hai, usakA visheSh vichAr karane se apaneAp samajhamen A jAyagA. mUl prayojanabhUt gnAyakako samajho. usamen sachche dev-guru-shAstra Ate hain.
dev kaise hote hain? vItarAgI hote hain. jo samavasaraNamen dev virAjate hain, ve vItarAgI hote hain. vikalpa nahIn hai, kuchh nahIn hai. svarUpameen lIn ho gaye hain. unakI nAsAgra dRuShTi hai aur ve vItarAg hain. samavasaraNamen baiThe hain bhagavAn to, usamen koI rAg nahIn
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hai. usamen koI jAtakA (rAg nahIn hai). bhagavAn to muni jaise vItarAgI hain. unakI pratimA bhI, jaise samavasaraNamen virAje hain, vaisI pratimA honI chAhiye. jaisI bhagavAnako vItarAg dashA huyI, phir jaisA bhAv huA usakI pratimA vaisI hotI hai. jaise bhagavAn hain, vaisI pratimA. aur pratimAmen pheraphAr karanA vah yathArtha to hai nahIn.
isaliye kyA karanA? apaneAp samajhamen A jAyagA. jo yathArtha hotA hai.. vah yathArtha hai. bAkI to usamen bhUl hai. bhagavAn samavasaraNamen baiThe hain ve to vItarAg hain. unakI dRuShTi nAsAgra hai. muni jaise hain, vaise pUrNa vItarAga. muni to sAdhak dashA hai, ye to pUrNa ho gaye hain. samavasaraNamen bhagavAn hain, vaisI pratimA honI chAhiye. usamen shvetAmbaronne pheraphAr kar diyA. isaliye jaisA sachchA bhAvamen hove, aisA bAharamen namaskAr bhI unako hotA hai. parantu aisA samajhamen nahIn Ave to tab ApoAp samajhamen A jAyagA. yathArtha tattva samajhane se sab samajhamen A jAyagA. usakA vyavahAr bhI sachchA hotA hai.
jaise gnAyakako samajhatA hai, vaise sachche dev-guru-shAstrako samajhe. aisA vyavahAr bhI sachchA hotA hai. yathArtha bhagavAn jaise hain, vaisI sthApanA hove usako namaskAr hotA hai. ... bhAv apaneAp samajhamen A jAyagA. jab apane bhAvamen sachchA samajhamen A jAyagA nishchay aur vyavahAr, tab apaneAp chhUT jAyagA. ab nahIn chhUTatA hai tabatak vichAr karanA ki sachchA kyA hai? jab sachchA samajhamen AyagA ki isamen kyA nukasAn hai, samajhamen AyagA to apaneAp chhUT jAyagA. aur nahIn chhUTatA ho to apanI ichchhA. jaise nishchay yathArtha, vaise vyavahAr yathArtha hotA hai.
mumukShu- jIv samajhatA ho, phir bhI aisI koI sAmAjik kArya vash aise Ayatanake andar jAnA ho, naman na kare, parantu jAnA paDe, aise koI sAmAjik bandhanamen ho to jAne-se koI (nukasAn hai)? dRuShTAnta ... aise sthAnamen jAnA paDe, hamAre jaise gRuhasthonko, to usamen doSh hai?
samAdhAna- apane bhAv par hai. svayamke sanyog svayam samajh lenA. vaise sanyogamen apanI utanI shakti na ho lokavyavahAr jItanekI, to apane sanyogako svayam samajh lenA. bAkI na ho to apane liye jAn lenA. mArga to aisA nahIn hotA, parantu apanI shakti na ho to sanyogavash jAy vah ek alag bAt hai. apane liye bAt alag hai.
mumukShu- ..
samAdhAna- ..
mumukShu- svayamkI itanI kachAs hai ki lokavyavahArako jIt (nahIn sakatA hai).
samAdhAna- apane liye svayamko samajh lenA. sanyogavash jAnA paDe. rAg-dveSh ho aisA ho, aise sanyogako svayam samajh lenA.prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!