Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 230.

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samAdhAna- ... to bhI bArambAr usIko yAd karate rahanA. ekatvabuddhi anAdikI hai to bAhar lag jAtA hai to bhI bArambAr use apanI or dRuDh karanA. mahimA aur lagana.

mumukShu- vairAgya aur gnAn donon sAthamen (hote hain).

samAdhAna- hAn, gnAn-vairAgya donon sAthamen (hote hain).

mumukShu- vairAgya pahale AtA hai na? bAdamen gnAn hotA hai na?

samAdhAna- donon sAthamen hote hain. svayamne apanA astitva grahaN kiyA ki main gnAyak hUn aur parase bhinna paDatA hai. gnAn aur vairAgya donon sAthamen hote hain.

mumukShu- shubhAshubh to chalate hI rahate hain.

samAdhAna- shubhAshubh anAdikA juDA hai. usase bhinna paDe, bhedavignAn kare. mUlamen- se bAdamen jAtA hai, pahale usakA bhedagnAn kare. svabhAv pahachAne ki main bhinna hUn aur ye bhinna hai. apanA astitva pahachAne aur main par-se bhinna, aise virakti. gnAn aur vairAgya sAthamen hote hain.

mumukShu- dRuShTi badalanI hai.

samAdhAna- dRuShTi badalanI hai.

samAdhAna- .. jagatamen bhagavAn sarvotkRuShTa hain aur unakI pratimAen shAshvat hain. nandishvaramen, meru parvatamen, devalokamen bahut jagah (hain). ratnake mandir aur ratnakI pratimA hain. bhagavAn mAno bole yA bolenge, aise dikhe. aise ratnakI pratimAen hotI hain. ek vANI nahIn hotI, bAkI sab hai. mAnon samavasaraNamen baiThe hon.

mumukShu- aShTAhnikAkI pUjA karanemen apaneko kyA lAbh hotA hai?

samAdhAna- bhagavAnakI pUjAse bhagavAnakI mahimA, jinendra devakI mahimA Aye. bhagavAn vItarAg hain, vItarAgI devakI mahimA Aye. ATh din dev karate hain. aur yahAn manuShya bhI karate hain. usamen ek jAtakI jinendra bhagavAnakI mahimA hai. jagatamen sarvase jinendra dev sarvotkRuShTa hain. isaliye jinendra bhagavAnakA jitanA kare utanA kam hai. usamen nitya niyamamen shrAvakonko pUjA hotI hai. usamen aShTAhnikAmen to ATh din dev karate


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hain aur manuShya bhI karate hain.

bhagavAn jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa hain. shrAvakonko dev, guru aur shAstrakI pUjA, bhakti gRuhasthAshramamen hotI hai. svayam apaneko pahachAnatA nahIn hai, parantu bhagavAn jo sarvotkRuShTa hain, bhagavAnako pahachAne vah svayamko pahachAnatA hai. bhagavAnakA svarUp yadi usake khyAlamen Aye, mahimA karate-karate, apanA dhyey ho to svayamko pahachAnanekA kAraN banatA hai. yadi apanA dhyey ho to. nahIn to pUjA,.. bhagavAnakI mahimA Aye, bhagavAnakA svarUp pahachAnanekA kAraN banatA hai. jagatamen mahimA karane yogya ho to jinendra dev hain. pratyek AdamI sansAramen sAnsArik prasang aur utsav manAte hain, parantu bhagavAnakA utsav manAye vah to sarvotkRuShTa hai. gRuhasthAshramamen anya prasang-se bhagavAnakA utsavan manAnA, vah shrAvakonke liye UnchA hai, uttam hai.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- devonkI to bahut shakti hotI hai na, isaliye..

mumukShu- avadhignAn..

samAdhAna- hAn, unhen to avadhignAn hotA hai.

mumukShu- ham jAkar A gaye.

samAdhAna- devalokamen bhI samajhe binA jAkar Aye. gurudevane kahA na ki tU bhagavAnakA svarUp pahachAna. samajhe binA oghe-oghe kiyA. puNya bandha ho. jAkar AyA jIv, bahut bAr jAkar AyA. parantu samajhe binA jAkar AyA. bhagavAn kise kahate hain, vah samajhe binA jAkar AyA. sachchI ruchi aur sachchI jignAsA, bhagavAn par jo antar-se bhAvanA Aye aur bhakti Aye, aise bhAvase nahIn gayA. samyagdarshan binA gayA aur bhAvabhakti binA, antarakI ruchi binA gayA. isaliye puNya bandha huA.

samAdhAna- .. dhvani chhUTanekA kAl aur vahAn ek kShaN pahale to gautamasvAmI... vahAn indra devakA rUp lekar jAtA hai to Ashcharya hotA hai. devalok... kaun hai? dravya kitane hote hain? Apane kahAn-se samajhA? aur kaun hai? use Ashcharya lagA. pAtratA hai na. nahIn to svayam mAnon sarvagna hai, aisA mAnate the. mere jaisA koI nahIn hai. shiShyonko paDhAte the. ye kaun hai, aisA kahanevAlA? Ashcharya lagA. thoDe prashnommen Ashcharya lagA. dekhane Ate hain. Apake guru kaun hain? mujhe darshan karanA hai. dUr-se dekhA. saral hRuday hai aur pAtra hai, dUsarA koI vichAr nahIn AtA. mAnastambh dekhakar Ashcharyamen DUb jAte hain. ye kaun hai? main to aisA samajhatA thA ki main sarvagna hUn. ye kaun hai? mAnastambh dekhakar (aisA lagatA hai), ye mAnastambh! aise kaun bhagavAn hai ki jisake Age aisI rachanA hotI hai. ye kyA hai? Ashcharyamen DUb jAte hain. us Ashcharyamen unhen AtmAkA Ashcharya


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(lagA) aur usamen bhedagnAn ho gayA. yah sab kaisA? mAnate the advait aur bhedagnAn ho gayA.

mAnastambhako dekhakar samyagdarshan ho gayA. ek kShaNamen palaT gayA. lambA puruShArtha nahIn karanA paDA. kyonki andar taiyArI thI. vichAr kar-karake sab vedAntakA biThAyA thA. ruchi is dharma orakI parantu baiThA thA dUsarA. parantu hRuday itanA saral thA ki kShaNamen palaT gaye. nahIn to is kAlamen to baiThA ho, viparIt abhiprAy nikAlanA mushkipal hai. ve to kShaNamen palaT gaye. abhI to bhagavAnakI vANI nahIn chhUTI nahIn hai vahAn ho gayA. Age-Age samavasaraNamen chalate jAte hain pAtratA baDhatI jAtI hai. ... Age gaye vahAn to munidashA aur jahAn bhagavAnakI dhvani chhUTI to chAr gnAn (pragaT ho gayA). kitanI deramen sab parivartan! kaisI AtmAkI yogyatA!

mumukShu- devonkI lAyakAt..

samAdhAna- usake liye dhyAn karane baiThe yA ArAm-se baiThe, aisA kuchh nahIn. mAtra dekhate jAte hain aur palaT jAte hain. sabako paDhAnevAle. tIn bhAI the. indrabhUti, agnibhUti aur vAyubhUti. usamen mukhya ye hain.

mumukShu- lAyakAt kaisI!

samAdhAna- AtmA antarmuhUrtamen palaTatA hai kaise! main jAnatA hUn aur main sarvagna (hUn). main mAnatA thA vah sab jUThA hai, aisA ho gayA. main sarvagna hUn aisA mAnatA thA, aur vah jUThA? isaliye merA sab jUThA. aisA andar vishvAs A gayA. main sarvagna nahIn hUn. sarvagna bhagavAn koI alag haiain, aisA lagatA hai. mere pAs nahIn hai. usamen ek jUThA hai to sab jUThA hai. aise unakI pAtratA badal gayI. andar lAyakAt hai na! pariNati badal gayI. kShaNamen merA jUThA hai, aise pariNati badal gayI. dekh-dekhakar andar-se pAtratA aisI hai ki bhedagnAn aur andar sab (ho gayA).

dravya kitane? tattva kitane? aisA pUchhA na (to lagA) ye sab kyA pUchhA? aisA nahIn kahA ki terA jUThA hai. vichAramen paD gaye. kaisA parivartan ho gayA! lambA vichAr kiyA yA bhagavAn kahate hain aur main vichAr karun phir main biThAUn, yA main dhyAn karun, chauthA Aye, phir chhaThavAn-sAtavAn AyA, aisA kuchh nahIn. vaise to unako dharma-or vRutti thI. parantu dharmakI or ho to abhI panchamakAlamen ho to viparIt abhiprAy ghus gaye ho. svayamko baDA mAn liyA ho. ... divyadhvanikA dhodh bahA. ... upAdAn- nimittakA sambandha aisA hai. dhvani dhvanike kAraN (chhUTI). gautamasvAmIkI yogyatA unake kAraN, gaNadhar gaNadharake kAraN, bhagavAn bhagavAnake kAraNa. Anandase barase. vANI nahIn chhUTatI thI usamen-se vANI chhUTI to Ananda-Ananda ho gayA. bharatakShetramen sabako Ananda


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ho gayA. Aj bhagavAnakI dhvani chhUTI.

bharatakShetramen har jagah khyAl ho nA ki bhagavAn virAjate hain, vANI nahIn chhUTatI hai. tRuShAtur sab rAh dekhakar baiThe the. bhagavAn kab bole? bhagavAnakI vANI kab chhUTe? munion, shrAvak, shrAvikA, rAjA, chAtak pakShIkI bhAnti bhagavAnakI dhvani... us samay kitane hI muni ban gaye, shrAvak, shrAvikA, sab palaT gaye. bhagavAnakI dhvanike sAth sambandha hai.

... bIchamen ... thA, isaliye kitane samay bAd bhagavAnakI vANI chhUTI. pArshvanAth bhagavAnake bAd kuchh kAl gayA, usake bAd mahAvIr bhagavAn hue. ... lekin dhvani nahIn chhUTatI thI. dvAdashAngakI rachanA hotI hai. vANIkA dhodh... kitane RuddhidhArI muni ho gaye, kisIko manaparyayagnAn, kisIko avadhignAn, kisIko chAr gnAn,kisIko Ruddhi (pragaT ho gayI). bhagavAnakI vANI chhUTI vahAn upAdAn-nimittakA sambandha ho gayA. kitane hI muni (ban gaye). chAraNaRuddhidhArI, anek jAtakI Ruddhi AtI hain, vah sab kitanonko pragaT ho jAtI hai. ... aisA prabal nimitta hai. aisA upAdAn-nimittakA sambandha hai.

shvetAmbaramen aisA kahate hain ki, bhagavAnakI dhvani khAlI gayI, koI gaNadhar nahIn thA isaliye. aisA nahIn banatA, bhagavAnakI vANI khAlI nahIn jAtI. dhvani chhUTe nahIn aisA ho sakatA hai. bhagavAnakI vANI prabal nimitta hai, kabhI khAlI nahIn jAtI. bhagavAnakI dhvani chhUTe. sAmane utane upAdAn taiyAr hote hain. kitane hI muni aur kitane hI shrAvak (ban jAte hain). kisIko koI gnAnakI labdhi, ... bhagavAnakA aisA nimitta prabal thA. ... kitanI Ruddhi, kitane munivar, koI kevalagnAnI, ... ye sab hue tab shivabhUti, vAyubhUti ve sab gaNadhar ban gaye.

gautamasvAmIne parivartan kiyA to sabane parivartan kiyA. ... kitane samay-se bAdal hote the, lekin varShA nahIn ho rahI thI. ... bhagavAnako kevalagnAn huA tabase bAdal hue, lekin varShA nahIn huyI. indrako avadhignAn (kA upayog) rakhanekA vichAr AyA, kyon dhvani chhUTatI nahIn? bhagavAn hain na, tIrthankar bhagavAna. chhUTegI, chhUTegI, aise AshAmen din nikAlate the. phir ekadam vichAr AyA ki ye kyA kAraN banA hai? ... vANI chhUTatI nahIn hai. .... samavasaraNamen shreNik rAjA, rAjagRuhI nagarImen mukhya rAjA, sab Aye, vApas chale jAya. intajAr kare. kisIko aisA ho jAtA hai na, bahut bhAvik ho, ham ghar jA rahe hain aur pIchhe-se bhagavAnakI dhvani nahIn chhUTegI na? aisA ho jAtA hai. ... gurudevakA pravachan samay par chalatA thA. kuchh aisA ho to aisA ho jAya. sabako baiThe rahanekA man ho jAtA thA.

... kevalagnAn prApta kiyA hai. jagatase alag hI lage. isaliye bhagavAnakA darshan


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karanA achchhA lage. laukikase alaukik mudrA ho gayI hai. andar AtmAmen samA gaye hain. nAsAgra ... kuchh hilanA-chalanA nahIn dikhatA. kevalagnAnIkI mudrA dekhanI ho, unake darshan karanA ho ... antaramen Utare hue, ... alaukik, jagat-se alag hI mUrti lage. manuShya jaisI nahIn, vah to alaukik mUrti! antaramen samA gaye haiain. sabhA bharI hai to bhI bhagavAn antaramen, kisIke sAmane dekhate nahIn. kisIkA sunate bhI nahIn. bhagavAn bolo. kuchh javAb bhI nahIn dete hain aur sunate bhI nahIn hai. kaun kahe? bhagavAn bolo, aisA kahe to bhI bhagavAn to antaramen virAjate hain. unake darshan karanemen koI apUrvatA lage. bolate nahIn hai. ve kahAn dhyAn dete hain. ...

koI pUjA kare, koI aisA sab karate ho, parantu bhagavAnakI dhvani nahIn chhUTatI hai. shrAvak Aye. vANI chhUTatI nahIn hai. chhatra, chamvar, dundubhI sab hai, lekin divyadhvani... aShTa prAtihAryamen divyadhvani nahIn chhUTatI hai. ... sabhAmen baiThe ho ... ThIk na ho aur bAhar Akar baiThe ho, gurudev bolenge to? bolenge isaliye kisIko ghar jAnekA man nahIn hotA thA.

jinake janma samay indra hajAr netra karake bhagavAnako dekhatA hai. samavasaraNake andar AtmAmen samA gaye hain aur bhagavAnakI mudrA alag ho gayI hai. ...

1550 minaT paryanta. (nondha- avAj spaShTa nahIn hai).