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samAdhAna- ... saurAShTra, gujarAt, hindImen to sab taiyAr (ho gaye). AtmAkI or muD gaye. AtmAkI ruchi pragaT huyI. antaramen mArga hai, bAhar nahIn hai. vah sab dRuShTi gurudevane batAyI. kitane hI kriyAmen ruke the, kriyAse dharma hotA hai, shubhabhAv kare to dharma hotA hai, isase dharma hotA hai. shubhabhAv-se puNya bandhatA hai, dharma to hotA nahIn. dharma to shuddhAtmAmen hotA hai. pUrA mArga gurudevane batAyA. svAnubhUti antaramen (hotI hai), yah gurudevane batAyA.

svAnubhUtikA svarUp, munidashAkA svarUp sab gurudevane batAyA. muni chhaThaven-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate ho, kShaNamen antaramen, kShaNamen bAhar aisI dashA munionkI hotI hai. sab gurudevane batAyA. .. ruke the, koI shuddhi-ashuddhimen ruke the. antaramen bhedagnAn karane-se dharma hotA hai. sharIr bhinna, vikalpa bhinna, sabase bhinna AtmA nyArA hai use pahachAna. gnAyak svarUp AtmAko pahachAna. antar bhedagnAn (karake) sthir ho jA, andar yathArtha pratIti karake sthir ho jA. antaramen gurudevane muktikA mArga pragaT kiyA. svayamne pragaT karake dUsaronko darshAyA.

pratyek dravyakI svatantratA, pratyek dravya svatantra hai. koI kisIkA kuchh nahIn kar sakatA. svayam apanA upAdAn karatA hai. usake sAth nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha kaisA hotA hai, sab gurudevane batAyA. pahale-se Akhir takakA, samyagdarshanase lekar kevalagnAn paryant sab gurudevane batAyA.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- shAstra abhyAs to bIchamen AtA hai. jabatak svayam antaramen yathArtha jAnatA nahIn hai ki kyA gnAyak svarUp hai? bhedagnAn nahIn hotA. gurudevakI vANI andar yAd karatA rahe. gurudevane kyA mArga batAyA hai? svayam andar visheSh sthir na ho sake (to) shAstrAbhyAs to bIchamen AtA hai.

mumukShu- ... lekin yahAn-se jAte hain tab...

samAdhAna- shAstra abhyAs karanA. gurudevane shAstrake artha kaise kiye hai, usake anusAr shAstrakA svAdhyAy karanA. shAstra svAdhyAy to bIchamen hotA hai. antaramen ek gnAyak

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bhinna (hai, usakA) bhedagnAn kaise ho? aur bAharamen shubhabhAvamen dev-guru-shAstra hote hain. shrutakA chintavan, dev-gurukI mahimA. munionko bhI shrutakA chintavan hoshratA hai. chhaThaven- sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate ho to bhI. svAnubhUtimen antaramen jAte hain aur antarmuhUrta bAhar Ate hain to shrutake vichAr hote hain. bIchamen shAstrakA abhyAs hotA hai. lekin AtmAke lakShya-se, AtmA kaise pahachAnamen Aye? AtmA bhinna hai, usakA bhedagnAn kaise ho? yah lakShya honA chAhiye.

mumukShu- samyagdarshan to nahIn huA hai, parantu dRuDh nishchay kiyA hai ki is bhavamen samyagdarshan prApta karanA hI hai. dUsare koI kAryamen ras nahIn AtA. parantu is bhavamen yadi prApta na kar sake to yah ras, ruchi dUsare bhavamen kAm (AtA hai)? bhaviShyamen kAm AtA hai ki nahIn?

samAdhAna- apUrva ruchi. antar-se aisI pragaT huyI ho to vah ruchi apane sAth AtI hai. vah AtI hai. usake sanskAr jo gahare paDe hon, to jahAn jAy vah andaramen- se sphurate hain. AtmA bhinna hai, vah bhinna kaise prApta ho? aisI gaharI ruchi aur sanskAr ho, bhale dRuDh nishchay ho, parantu pahunchA nahIn ho to vah sanskAr use pragaT hote hain. yathArtha ho to pragaT hote hain.

ananta kAlamen dev-guru-shAstrakA upadesh milA. gurukA upadesh milA, devakA milA. antaramen grahaN ho gayA ki ye kuchh apUrva kahanA chAhate hain. lekin abhI samyagdarshan nahIn huA ho to use dUsare bhavamen bhI hotA hai.

mumukShu- sachchI shraddhA andaramen dRuDh kI hogI to vah bhaviShyamen kAm AtI hai?

samAdhAna- hAn, kAm AtI hai.

mumukShu- ... aisA yog milA, phir bhI abhI tak nahIn huA hai, isaliye...?

samAdhAna- nahIn huA hai to antaramen svayam vichAr kar lenA ki pahalekI jo ruchi ananta kAlamen kI, parantu gaharAI-se svayamne ruchi nahIn kI hai. sab Upar-Uparase grahaN kiyA hai. sab sthUl-sthUl (kiyA). yathArtha prakArase dev aur guruko svayamko pahachAnA nahIn hai. aur antaramen jo AtmAkA svarUp kahanA chAhate hain, usakI apUrvatA nahIn AyI hai. isaliye ananta kAlamen bahut kiyA hai, lekin huA nahIn hai. ab, svayamko antaramen kaisI ruchi hai, vah svayam pahachAn sakatA hai. yadi andaramen gaharI ruchi ho to bhaviShyamen vah pragaT hue binA rahatI hI nahIn.

andaramen aisI gaharI ruchi ho ki svayamko aisI khaTak rahatI hai ki vibhAvamen kahIn chain nahIn paDatI. ye vibhAv mujhe chAhiye hI nahIn. mujhe svabhAv chAhiye. svabhAvakI mahimA antaramen-se rahA kare, aisI gaharI mahimA rahA kare to vah sAthamen Aye binA nahIn rahatA.

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ananta kAlamen koI apUrva ruchine svayamne nahIn kI hai. sunA hai lekin apUrva ruchi nahIn kI hai. shAstramen AtA hai na? tatprati prIti chitten, vArtApi shrutA. vah vArtA bhI svayamne sunI to bhAvi nirvAN bhAjanama. bhaviShyamen nirvANakA bhAjan (hai). lekin vah vArtA kaise sunI? koI apUrva ruchise sunI honI chAhiye. vah apUrva ruchi svayamko ho to vah pragaT hue binA nahIn rahatI.

apUrva ruchise svayamne sunA nahIn hai, isaliye ananta kAlamen sunA lekin vah chalA gayA. apUrva ruchi svayamkI ho, andar dRuDh nishchay ho ki AtmA pragaT karanA hI hai aur utanA puruShArtha huA na ho to vah ruchi usake sAth Aye binA nahIn rahatI. ruchi use kAm AtI hai. aise gurudev mile, itanI andarakI ruchi ho, aise gurudev mile, aisA upadeshakA dhodh bahAyA, koI apUrvatA batAkar antaramen svayamko lagI ho to hue binA nahIn rahatA.

mumukShu- niyamasAramen kalash hai ki kAraN aur kArya donon shuddha hai. usakA kyA artha hotA hai? kAraN bhI shuddha hai aur kArya shuddha hai.

samAdhAna- kaun-sA kalash AtA hai kAraN-kAryakA? kAraN dRuShTi jo pragaT huyI vah bhI shuddha hai. yadi kAraN shuddha hai to usakA kArya bhI shuddha hai. kAraN- kArya donon shuddha hain. kAraN jo dravya svarUp AtmA vah kAraN hai, vah bhI shuddha hai. usakI dRuShTikI paryAy pragaT huyI vah bhI shuddha hai. kAraN ashuddha ho aur kArya shuddha ho, aisA nahIn banatA. kAraN-kArya donon shuddha hote hain.

muktikA mArga jo darshan, gnAn, chAritra hai vah bhI shuddha hai aur muktikI paryAy pragaT hotI hai, vah bhI shuddha hai. dravya svarUp AtmA hai vah bhI shuddha hai. usakI dRuShTi pragaT hotI hai, viShay bhI shuddha hai, usakI paryAy shuddha hai. aur muktikA mArga jo darshan, gnAn, chAritra pragaT hotA hai vah muktikA kAraN hai. to vah bhI shuddha hai. usakI paryAy pragaT hotI hai vah bhI shuddha hai. kAraN bhI shuddha hai aur kArya bhI shuddha hai. dravya apekShAse bhI shuddha hai, paryAy apekShAse bhI shuddha hai. .. vah bhI shuddha hai, muktikI paryAy hotI hai vah bhI shuddha hai. dravyasvarUp AtmA bhI shuddha hai. usakI jo dRuShTi hotI hai, vah bhI shuddha hai.

mumukShu- kAraN-kArya dravya-paryAyamen bhI hai aur kAraN-kArya paryAy-paryAyamen bhI hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, paryAy-paryAyamen hai. muktikA mArga aur mukti-pUrNa mukti. vah bhI kAraN-kArya. aur dravya kAraN, paryAy kArya. vah bhI shuddha hai. dravyamen bhI dravya aur paryAy usamen bhI kAraN-kArya hai. paryAy-paryAyameen bhI kAraN-kArya hotA hai. aisA bhI vyavahAr hotA hai. muktikA mArga kAraN aur muktikI paryAy kArya, aisA bhI hotA hai.

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vyavahAramen muktikA mArga bhI kAraN hai aur muktikI paryAy kArya hai. aisA bhI kAraN- kArya hotA hai.

mumukShu- kAraN shuddha aur kArya ashuddha aisA nahIn hotA.

samAdhAna- aisA nahIn hotA. mUl to dravya shuddha hai. isaliye dravyakI dRuShTi... dravya kAraN aur paryAy kArya hai. vah muktikA mArga hai. bAdamen vyavahAramen muktikA mArga kAraN hai aur muktikI paryAy (kArya hai). parantu kAraN ashuddha aur kArya shuddha, aisA nahIn hotA hai. kAraN ashuddha nahIn hotA hai. panch mahAvrat kAraN hotA hai aur usakA kArya shuddha hotA hai, aisA nahIn hotA. panch mahAvrat shubh pariNAm kAraN hotA hai aur usakA chAritra shuddha hotA hai, aisA nahIn hotA hai. aNuvrat, mahAvrat shubh pariNAm hai. vah to bIchamen AtA hai. shubhabhAvakA kAraN-kArya jo kahanemen AtA hai vah vyavahAr hai. shubh kAraN aur shuddha kArya, aisA nahIn hotA. ashuddhakA kAraN-kArya nahIn hotA. shubh kAraN aur shubh kArya, aisA hotA hai. sAdhak paryAy shuddha hai, pUrNatA shuddha hai. dravya shuddha hai, usakI paryAy shuddha, dRuShTikI paryAy shuddha hai. aisA shuddha hotA hai.

mumukShu- dravya-paryAyamen kAraN-kArya le (to) kAraN to sabake pAs shuddha hai. to kAryamen ashuddhatA kyon rahatI hai? kAraN to sabake pAs shuddha hai anAdiananta, to kAryamen ashuddhatA kyon rahatI hai?

samAdhAna- kAraN kyA? mokShakA kAraN kyA? dravyamen ashuddha pariNati anAdi- se hotI hI hai. dravya usakA kAraN nahIn hotA hai. vah muktikA kAraN-kArya kahAn hai? vah to vibhAvik paryAy hai. vibhAvamen usakA dravyakA kAraN nahIn hotA hai. shuddha kAraN aur ashuddha vibhAv paryAy, aisA nahIn hotA. puruShArthakI mandatAse vibhAv pariNati hotI hai. vah kAraN hai. muktikA kAraN nahIn hai.

mumukShu- gnAnIke sAre bhAv gnAnamay hote hain. usakA svarUpakA khulAsA.

samAdhAna- gnAnIkI dishA aur dRuShTi palaT gayI. dravya taraph dRuShTi ho gayI, usakI pariNati bhI dravya taraph ho gayI. isaliye gnAnIkA sab kArya gnAnamay hotA hai. vibhAv alpa hotA hai-asthiratA, to vah gauN hai. isaliye usakA sab kArya gnAnamay hI hotA hai.

gnAtAkI dhArA usako chalatI hai. svAnubhUti to hotI hai, parantu vartamAn gnAtAkI dhArA, bhedagnAnakI dhArA rahatI hai. jo-jo vibhAv Ave to kShaN-kShaNamen gnAtAkI dhArA, gnAyakakI dhArA nyArI rahatI hai. isaliye gnAnIkI sab pariNati gnAnamay hotI hai, gnAtAmay hotI hai, sAkShImay hotI hai. vibhAvako gauN kahanemen AtA hai. isaliye gnAnIkA sab kArya, usakI sab pariNati gnAnamay hotI hai. vah agnAnamay nahIn hotI hai, ekatvabuddhirUp nahIn hotI hai. vibhAv hotA hai to usase nyArA rahatA hai. isaliye usakA sab kArya,

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antarakI jo pariNati hai vah sab gnAnamay hotI hai.

gnAnIkI sab pariNati, sab kArya, sab paryAy gnAnamay hotI hai, agnAnamay nahIn hotI hai. gnAnamay hotI hai. usakI dishA palaT gayI. gnAyak jo AtmA, usakI taraph usakI dRuShTi chalI gayI to pariNati us taraph chalI gayI. isaliye sab pariNati gnAnamay hotI hai. ekatvabuddhi hai vah agnAn hai. gnAyakakI dhArA nahIn hai, isaliye usake sab kArya agnAnamay hote hain. gnAyakakI dhArA pragaT ho gayI, isaliye usake sab kArya gnAnamay hote hain. gnAyakakI dhArA chAlU hI rahatI hai. vibhAv jo-jo Aye to usamen gnAyakakI dhArA bhinna hI rahatI hai. isaliye sab pariNati gnAnamay hotI hai.

mumukShu- .. savikalpa hotI hai yA nirvikalpa?

samAdhAna- gnAyakakI dhArA-gnAnadhArA savikalpa bhI hotI hai aur nirvikalpamen to vikalpa nahIn hai. nirvikalpamen bhI gnAnadhArA hai aur savikalpamen bhI gnAnadhArA hai. donommen gnAnadhArA hotI hai.

mumukShu- ek-sI hotI hai donommen gnAnadhArA? savikalpamen bhI aur nirvikalpamen bhI?

samAdhAna- gnAyakakI dhArA ugra hai. nirvikalpamen hai to vikalpa nahIn hai. gnAyak gnAyakarUp lIn ho gayA hai. bAhar Ave to vikalpake sAthamen hai to bhinna bhedagnAnakI dhArA rahatI hai. aur svAnubhUtimen nirvikalpa dhArA hai. savikalpamen vikalpavAlI dhArA hai parantu gnAnadhArA hai. udayadhArA aur gnAnadhArA bhinna-bhinna hai.

samAdhAna- .. jyAdA shubhabhAv kar lUn yA jyAdA kriyA kar lUn, bahut upavAs kar lUn, aisA kar lUn, usase janma-maraN nahIn TUTatA. janma-maraN bhedagnAn karane-se, AtmAko pahachAnane-se TUTatA hai. bIchamen shubharAg AtA hai to puNyabandha hotA hai. jabatak shuddhAtmAmen lIn nahIn hotA hai to shubharAg AtA hai, lekin vah apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. vah heyabuddhise bIchamen AtA hai. vah apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. usakA bhedagnAn kare. aur jab lInatA kare to bhI shubhabhAv AtA hai, lekin vah apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. usase janma-maraN nahIn TUTatA hai.

muniko bhI panch mahAvrat, shrAvakako aNuvrat AtA hai, vah shubhabhAv hai. ve usakA bhedagnAn karate hain. samyagdarshanapUrvak jo munidashA hotI hai, vah munidashA hai. samyagdarshanapUrvaka. svAnubhUti munionko kShaN-kShaNamen AtmAmen lIn hote hain. aise svarUpakI prApti hotI hai. chAritra dashA vItarAg dashA kevalagnAn hotA hai tab rAgakA kShay, vItarAg dashA hotI hai.

pahale usakA bhedagnAn hotA hai ki rAg main nahIn hUn, aisA shraddhAn karanA, usakA bhedagnAn karanA. samyagdRuShTiko bhI gRuhasthAshramamen svAnubhUti hotI hai. svAnubhUti hai vahI muktikA mArga hai, janma-maraN usase (Talate hain). bAhar rukane-se nahIn hotA hai. ananta kAlamen

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shubhabhAv bhI bahut kiye. parantu vah to puNyabandhakA kAraN banA.

AchAryadev kahate hain ki ham to Age baDhaneko, shuddhAtmA tIsarI bhUmikAkograhaN karaneko (kahate hain), pIchhe giraneko nahIn kahate hain. shubhako chhoDakar ashubh karaneko nahIn kahate haiain. parantu shubh-se (bhinna) tIsarI bhUmikA, shubhabhAv-se (bhinna) tIsarI bhUmikA shuddhAtmA, usako grahaN karo. vah amRutasvarUp hai usako grahaN karo. shubhabhAv sharaNarUp nahIn hai, bIchamen AtA hai.

mumuukShuko dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, bhakti, manda kaShAy mumukShuko hotA hai. dev- guru-shAstrakI mahimA hotI hai, parantu shuddhAtmAkA dhyey honA chAhiye. main shuddhAtmAko kaise (grahaN karun)? merA AtmA nyArA hai, aisI shraddhA honI chAhiye.

mumukShu- pUjya mAtAjI! jain dharma hI satya hai, aisA Apane kis prakAr-se ... kiyA?

samAdhAna- jain dharma hI satya hai, kyonki jain dharmamen yathArtha svarUp hai. anekAnta svarUp (hai). AtmA koI apekShAse nitya hai, koI apekShAse anitya hai, koI apekShAse ek, koI apekShAse anek (hai). ye jo jain dharmamen jo svarUp hai,.... jain dharma koI vADA nahIn hai, yathArtha muktikA mArga hai. vah yathArtha muktikA mArga batAtA hai. dUsare anya-anya matomen koI mAtra kShaNik mAnatA hai, koI kriyAmen dharma mAnatA hai, koI ekAnta nitya, kUTastha mAnatA hai, koI aisA mAnatA hai. aisA vastukA svarUp nahIn hai.

vastukA svarUp bhItaramen vichAr to koI apekShAse AtmA nitya (hai). svabhAv dravya apekShAse nitya hai, paryAy apekShAse anitya hai. usamen guN anek hain, to guN kahIn khaNDa-khaNDa, khaNDa-khaNDa nahIn hai. ek vastumen ananta guN hai. aisA jo bhagavAnane vItarAg mArgamen kahA hai, vaisA anyamen nahIn hai. yahI mArga satya hai. AtmAmen ashuddhatA to paryAyamen hai. vAstavik dravya to shuddha hai. to koI kahatA hai ki ekAnta shuddha hai. paryAyamen ashuddhatA hai aur dravya apekShAse shuddha hai. aisA jo jain darshanamen jo vastukA svarUp bhagavAnane batAyA hai, aisA kIdhar bhI nahIn hai.

usakA rahasya gurudevane pragaT kiyA hai ki vastukA svarUp aisA hI hai. aur AtmAmen svAnubhUtimen AtmAkA astitva grahaN karo, usakA bhedagnAn karo. usase AtmAmen svAnubhUti hotI hai. aisA jain dharmamen hai, vaisA kIdhar bhI nahIn hai. yathArtha yahI mArga hai. anekAnta svarUp-dravya apekShAse nitya, paryAy apekShAse anitya. yah jainadarshanamen hai, aisA kisImen nahIn hai. koI ek-ek, ek-ek vastuko kahatA hai. koI kShaNik sarvathA, koI sarvathA nitya, koI sarvathA anek, koI kahatA hai, parako jAnatA hai, apaneko nahIn jAnatA hai, koI kahatA hai, apaneko jAnatA hai, parako nahIn jAnatA hai, aise anek matamatAntar

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(chalate hain). jo vastu svarUp hai, jaisA bhagavAnane kahA aisA shAstramen AtA hai. gurudevane aisA mArga pragaT kiyA, aisA kIdhar bhI nahIn hai. ye apUrva svarUp hai.

AtmA koI achintya anekAntamayI mUrti, anekAntamay mUrti AtmA hai. chAron or- se, sab pahalU-se dekho to vah anekAnta svarUp hai. jo apekShA-se nitya hai, vahI apekShA-se anitya nahIn hai. anityakI apekShA bhinna aur nityakI apekShA judI hai. dravya apekShA-se nitya aur paryAy apekShAse anitya, aisA hai. aisA koI kahatA hai, vyavahAr bhI hai, nishchay bhI hai. vyavahArakI apekShA judI hai aur nishchayakI apekShA judI hai. nishchay vastu svarUp hai aur vyavahAr paryAy apekShA hai. donon apekShA bhinna-bhinna hai. jaisA hai aisA samajhanA chAhiye. to muktikA mArga pragaT hotA hai. ekAnta shuddha mAn le to kachh karanA nahIn rahatA hai. (ekAnta) ashuddha mAn le to ashuddha shuddha kaise hove? jo shuddha hai dravya apekShAse, to bhI ashuddha sarvathA nahIn hai to puruShArtha kisakA karanA? is apekShAse paryAyamen ashuddhatA hai aur dravyamen shuddhatA hai. dravya par dRuShTi karake paryAyamen ashuddhatA hai vah TUTatI hai. aur shraddhA-gnAn karake jo svabhAvamen-se pragaT hotA hai, vibhAvamen-se nahIn AtA hai. svabhAvakI dRuShTi karane-se paryAyamen shuddhatA pragaT hotI hai. aise muktikA mArga pragaT hotA hai. anekAnta samajhe binA muktikA mArga pragaT nahIn hotA. AtmAmen sukh nahIn hotA hai.