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mumukShu- Anshik AcharaN ho...

samAdhAna- Anshik AcharaN pahale nahIn hotA hai. pahale shraddhAn-gnAn ho to hI AcharaN hotA hai. to hI AcharaN yathArtha hotA hai.

mumukShu- shraddhAn-gnAn pUrvaka.

samAdhAna- shraddhA-gnAnapUrvak AcharaN yathArtha hotA hai. Anshik AcharaN hotA hai.

mumukShu- shraddhAkI pradhAnatA, aisA? jainadarshanamen shraddhAn mukhya tattva hai.

samAdhAna- shraddhAnakI pradhAnatA hai.

mumukShu- bhale gnAn dvArA shraddhAn hotA hai.

samAdhAna- gnAn bIchamen AtA hai. bIchamen AtA hai, isaliye pratham gnAn karanA, aisA AtA hai. shraddhA karatA hai, usamen gnAn bIchamen AtA hai. ata pratham gnAn karanA, aisA kahanemen Aye. parantu shraddhA yathArtha ho to hI mukti mArgakA prArambh hotA hai.

mumukShu- gnAn karanA, vah bhI samakitI-gnAnIke samIp rahakar yathArtha gnAn ho sake. dharmAtmAkA yog ho to hI usako us jAtake sanskAr dRuDh ho sake.

samAdhAna- gurudevane jo mArga batAyA, us mArgako svayam grahaN kare. gurudevakA Ashay samajhe, us Ashayako grahaN kare, vaisI svayam taiyArI kare to use mArga pragaT hotA hai. usakI samIpatA arthAt samIpatA yAnI antaramen unakI samIpatAko grahaN karanI. aisA artha hai.

mumukShu- bhAvakI nikaTatA.

samAdhAna- hAn, bhAv-se nikaTatA grahaN karanI. anAdi kAlase dev-guru sachche nahIn mile hain. isaliye use yathArtha gnAn nahIn huA hai. parantu upAdAn taiyAr ho to nimitta maujUd hotA hI hai.

mumukShu- nimittako khojanA, aisA nahIn?

samAdhAna- nimitta use prApta ho hI jAtA hai, unakA sAnnidhya prApta ho hI jAtA hai. samIpatA yAnI unakA sAnnidhya, samIpatA prApta ho jAtI hai. mumukShuko aise bhAv Aye binA rahate hI nahIn. dev-guru-shAstrakI samIpatA kaise prApta ho? unakA sAnnidhya

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kaise prApta ho? merA puruShArtha kaise ho? mujhe mArga kaise grahaN ho? unakA sAnnidhya to, nishchay aur vyavahAr donon sAnnidhyakI use bhAvanA hotI hI hai.

mumukShu- vyavahAr bhI bIchamen Avashyak hai sahI.

samAdhAna- hAn, vyavahAr bIchamen AtA hai. use bhAvanA hotI hai. phir bAhar- se yog kitanA bane, vah alag bAt hai. parantu use bhAvanA hotI hai. sAnnidhyakI, samIpatAkI sab bhAvanA hotI hai.

mumukShu- rAgakI bhUmikAmen aise hI bhAv Aye.

samAdhAna- aise bhAv Aye. muumukShukI bhUmikAmen aise bhAv Aye. samyagdarshan honeke bAd muktikA mArga prArambh ho to bhI, chAritra dashA ho to bhI dev-guru-shAstrake shubh vikalpa to sAthamen hote hI hain. jabatak vItarAg dashA nahIn huyI hai tabataka. mumukShuko to aisA hotA hai ki dev-guru-shAstrakI samIpatA ho, unakA shravaN, manan AdikI bhAvanA hotI hai. parantu samyagdRuShTiko, chAritravAn muniko sabako dev-guru-shAstra taraphakI shubhabhAvanA Aye binA nahIn rahatI. bIchamen sAthamen hotA hai. aNuvrat, mahAvratake shubh pariNAm Ate hain. sAthamen dev-guru-shAstrake shubh pariNAm Ate hain.

mumukShu- bhAvanakA artha Apane yah kiyA ki aise vikalpa Ate hain.

samAdhAna- hAn, aise vikalpa Ate hain. svayam Age jAy, vahAn dev-guru-shAstra mujhe sAnnidhyatAmen ho, mujhe unakI samIpatA ho, aisI bhAvanA use Aye binA nahIn rahatI. bAharakA yog kitanA bane vah alag bAt hai, lekin usakI bhAvanA aisI hotI hai.

samAdhAna- ...dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, andar shuddhAtmA, merA chaitanya svarUp kaisA hai, usakI pahachAn karanI. gurudev bArambAr vahI kahate the. gurudevake pravachanamen to gurudevane bahut mArga batAyA hai, vANI barasAyI hai. vah karanA hai. svAnubhUtikA mArga gurudevane batAyA. antaramen svAnubhUti hotI hai, bAharamen kahIn nahIn hai. bAhar-se kuchh nahIn milatA, antaramen hai, sab AtmAmen bharA hai usamen-se pragaT hotA hai.

ananta kAl-se janma-maraN karate-karate manuShyabhav milA. is manuShya bhavamen aise gurudev mile, unhonne mArga batAyA to vah ek hI karane jaisA hai. Atma svarUpakI pahachAn kaise ho? vaha.

samAdhAna- ...lekin vah vyavahAr hai. vAstavik rUpase samyagdarshan, gnAn, chAritrANi mokShamArga. samyagdarshan-se shurUAt hotI hai.

mumukShu- vahAn takakA jo gnAn hai, vah vikalpavAlA kahA jAy, vyavahAravAlA kahA jAya. prayojanabhUt vastu tabatak prApta nahIn hotI, shraddhA honeke bAd hI prApta hotI hai.

samAdhAna- mUl apanI pariNati, bhedagnAnakI dhArA, nirvikalpa svAnubhUti samyagdarshan

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ho to... usake pahale jo gnAn hai, use yathArtha nAm nahIn de sakate. samyagdarshan ho tab us gnAnako yathArtha kahate hain. usake pahale vyavahAr bIchamen AtA hai. jAnaneke liye gnAn AtA hai, parantu pratIti yathArtha ho, tabhI gnAnako samyakagnAn nAm kahanemen AtA hai.

mumukShu- sarva guNonkI shuddhi hotI hI jAtI hai. shuddhikI vRuddhi hotI jAtI hai. aisI bAt Aye, vah kaise hotI hai?

samAdhAna- kevalagnAn honeke bAd nahIn. kevalagnAn to pUrNa ho gayA.

mumukShu- gnAnaguN to hotA hai. Aj jaisA guN hai, usase kal jyAdA ho.

samAdhAna- kevalagnAnamen aisA nahIn hotA. vah to sAdhak dashAmen hai. samyagdarshan honeke bAd shuddhikI vRuddhi hotI hai. usakI bhUmikA baDhatI jAya. use chaturtha guNasthAn ho, phir pAnchavA hotA hai, lInatA baDhatI jAy, aise-aise gnAn, darshan, chAritrakI nirmalatA, ananta guNonkI nirmalatA baDhatI jAtI hai. samyagdarshan-yathArtha dRuShTi huyI isaliye usamen jab chAritra pragaT hotA hai, phir sarva guNonkI shuddhi hotI hai. samyagdarshan-se hI shuddhi hotI hai.

sarvaguNAnsh so samyagdarshana. use shuddhi huyI. phir visheSh Age baDhatA hai to chAritra dashA AtI hai. pAnchavI bhUmikA, chhaThThI-sAtavIn munidashA Aye. isaliye usakI adhik shuddhi huyI. use vItarAg dashAkI prApti (huyI). pUrNa vItarAg nahIn hai, vItarAgatAkI vRuddhi huyI. phir mohakA, rAgakA kShay hokar antar vItarAg dashA pUrNa vItarAg ho, tab use sampUrNa hotA hai. kevalagnAn hotA hai. vItarAg hotA hai isaliye kevalagnAn hotA hai. kevalagnAn hotA hai, isaliye sarva guN sampUrNarUpase pragaT ho gaye. phir samay-samayamen usakI jo pariNati hotI hai, us pariNatimen vRuddhi-vRuddhi hotI hai, aisA nahIn.

mumukShu- kevalagnAn hone par sarva guN khIl gaye na?

samAdhAna- kevalagnAn hotA hai to sarva guN paripUrNa ho gaye. phir jo pariNaman hotA hai, vah ekake bAd ek, ananta guN svayam shuddhirUp pariNamate hI rahate hain. vItarAgarUp pariNamate rahate hain. usakA svabhAv aisA hai ki pAriNAmik svabhAv hai. isaliye vah ananta kAl paryant pariNamatA rahatA hai AnandarUp, gnAnarUp, parantu usakA nAsh nahIn hotA hai yA kam nahIn ho jAtA. vah pariNamatA rahatA hai, ekarUp pariNamatA rahatA hai. usamen tAratamyatA agurulaghu svabhAvake kAraN ho, parantu vah ekarUp hai. usamen va- vRuddhi nahIn kahate. kevalagnAn huA isaliye pUrNa ho gayA.

mumukShu- to phir use agurulaghukI dRuShTi-se kaise kahate hain?

samAdhAna- use vRuddhi nahIn hotI. vah to ekarUp pariNamatA hai. tAratamyatA (hotI hai). vah to pAriNAmikabhAv hai. usakI vRuddhi-hAni to usakA svabhAv hai. jaise hIrAmen

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chamak hotI hai, anek prakArase jo chamak hotI hai, vaise use pAriNAmikabhAvakI hAni- vRuddhi kahate haiain. usakI vRuddhi, vastu sthiti-se vRuddhi, vItarAgatAkI vRuddhi, kevalagnAnakI vRuddhi nahIn kah sakate.

mumukShu- .. parantu pAriNAmikabhAvakI dRuShTi-se agurulaghutvakI..

samAdhAna- agurulaghukA svabhAv hI aisA hai. pAnImen jaisee tarang uThate hain, vaise use pAriNAmikabhAv pariNamatA rahatA hai. hAni-vRuddhi...

mumukShu- vah to us bhAvakA hI hai na?

samAdhAna- pAriNAmikabhAvakA hI hai. vRuddhi-hAni nahIn kah sakate, pUrNa ho gayA. ekarUp pariNaman rahatA hai. use vRuddhi-hAni nahIn kahate. ... vRuddhi hotI hai. sAdhak sIDhI chaDhatA hai. pUrNa vItarAgatA ho, kevalagnAn ho to kRutakRutya ho gayA. jo karanA thA vah kar liyA, ab kuchh karanA bAkI nahIn rahA. puruShArthakI pUrNatA ho gayI. karanA kuchh nahIn hai. sahaj svabhAvarUp dravya pariNamatA rahatA hai. phir karanA kuchh nahIn hai. karanA kuchh nahIn hai, vah to nij svabhAvarUp pariNamatA rahatA hai.

mumukShu- kalakI charchAmen aisA AyA ki bhedagnAn rAg aur svabhAvake bIch karanA hai. dravya aur paryAyake bIch nahIn. samayasAr gAthA-38men aisA AtA hai ki nau tattva- se AtmA atyant bhinna hone-se shuddha hai, aisA kahA. to usamen to samvar, nirjarA aur mokSha bhI A gaye. dravyadRuShTi karanI aur paryAyadRuShTi chhoDanI, usamen bhI dravya aur paryAyake bIch bhedagnAnakA prasang AyA. vaise hI dhruv aur utpAd rUp chalit bhAv, niShkriy aur sakriy bhAva. in sabamen dravya aur paryAyake bIch taphAvat karanA paDatA hai. to rAg aur svabhAvake bIchake bhedagnAnako kyon prAdhAnyatA dI jAtI hai?

samAdhAna- rAg aur svabhAv do hain (usamen) vibhAv hai aur yah svabhAv hai, isaliye usakI prAdhAnyatA hai. guN-paryAyakA bhed bhI dRuShTikI apekShA-se kahanemen AtA hai. sarva apekShA-se (nahIn). guN aur paryAy jo hai vah ansh-ansh hai. lekin vah ansh hai vah dravyadRuShTikI apekShA-se... jaise sAdhakadashA. jo-jo bhed paDe guNasthAn,... un sab bhAgako dravyadRuShTikI apekShA-se sabako gauN karake ... dravyadRuShTikI apekShA- se. kAraN Ashray to dravyakA lenA hai. paryAyakA Ashray yA guNakA Ashray nahIn lenA hai. kAraN ki un sabako ... AtA hai. lekin vah bhinna aisA nahIn hai ki jaisA rAg-se bhinna hai, vaisA yah bhinna nahIn hai. bhinnatA-bhinnatAmen pharka hai. isaliye us apekShA- se kahA thA ki rAg-se bhedagnAn (karanA hai). kyonki svabhAv aur vibhAvakA bhedagnAn hai. yah bhedagnAn hai, vah apekShA alag hai. usamen Ashray chaitanya pUrNa aishvaryashAlI hai usakA Ashray lenA hai. paryAy aur guN ek ansh hai. usakA Ashray nahIn lenA hai.

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dravya par dRuShTi karane-se usakA Ashray hotA hai aur guN evan paryAy gauN ho jAte hain. dravyadRuShTikI apekShA-se. isaliye usamen sab sAdhak dashA aur sab usamen gauN ho jAtA hai. jaise ek rAjA pUrNa shaktishAlI rAjA ho... koI apekShA-se bhinna hai. rAjA pUrNa aishvaryashAlI hai, yah to ek ansh hai. parantu jaisA usake dushman-se bhinna paDatA hai, us tarah usake rishtedAron-se us jAtakI bhinnatA nahIn hai. bhale rAjA aur pradhAn Adi sab bhinna vastuen hI hain. parantu vah bhinna aur usake dushman-se bhinnatA, us bhedagnAnamen pharka hai. isaliye dRuShTike balakI apekShA-se...

dRuShTi sab bhinna karatI hai. main kRutakRutya pUrNa hUn. vah sAdhakadashAko bhI gauN karatI hai ki main pUrNa hUn. kRutakRutya hUn. mere dravyamen kuchh bhI ashuddhatA nahIn huyI hai. main to pUrNa hUn aur yah vibhAv mujh-se atyant bhinna hai. aise bhinnatA karatA hai. bIchamen jo sAdhakadashA, apUrNa paryAy, pUrNa paryAy sabako gauN karatI hai. to bhI gnAn hai vah use lakShyamen rakhatA hai ki ye guN aur paryAy hai, vah chaitanyake lakShaN hain. chaitanyakI avasthAen hain. usakI shuddha paryAy use vedanamen AtI hai aur gnAn usakA vivek karatA hai. us apekShA-se bhedagnAn rAg-se karanA hai. kyonki guN aur paryAyakA bhedagnAn vah bhed aisA hai ki dRuShTikA Ashray dravya par jAtA hai, isaliye un sabakA bhed karanA hai.

parantu jaisA bhed rAg-se karanA hai, vaisA bhed guN-paryAyakA, vaisA bhed nahIn hai. bhed-bhedamen pharka hai. isaliye rAg-se bhedagnAn karanA hai. vah bhed hai, parantu bhed-bhedamen pharka hai. usakA vivek karanA hai. chaitanyake guN hain-gnAn, darshan, chAritra vah sab ek- ek ansh hain. chaitanya to akhaNDa pUrNa shaktivAn hai. ek-ek ansh vaise nahIn hai, ata usakA Ashray nahIn karanA hai. vah ansh hai. isaliye un sabako gauN karanA hai. aur dRuShTi to un sabako nikAl detI hai. nimittakI apekShA-se apUrNa-pUrNa paryAy huyI, isaliye dRuShTi sabako bhinna karatI hai. main to ek pUrNa hUn, kRutakRutya hUn. is tarah dRuShTike balamen sab nikal jAtA hai. main pUrNa hUn.

lekin yadi pUrNa hI ho to bIchamen sAdhakadashA nahIn rahatI. usamen samyagdarshan, gnAn, chAritra Adi sab avasthAen to hotI hain. ata gnAn usakA vivek karatA hai ki koI apekShAse ye guN hain, vah chaitanyake hain. chAritrakI paryAy pragaT hotI hai vah chaitanyamen (pragaT hotI hai). samyagdarshan, gnAn, chAritra sab chaitanyamen pragaT hotI hai. parantu dravya par dRuShTi karane-se pragaT hotI hai. isaliye main nau tattvakI paripATI chhoDakar mujhe ek AtmA prApta hoo. nau tattvakI paripATI par dRuShTi nahIn rakhanI hai, dRuShTi ek AtmA par rakhanI hai. AtmA par dRuShTi karane-se sab nirmal paryAy pragaT hotI hai. parantu usakA Ashray nahIn lenA hai. parantu vah paryAy, jaise vibhAv bhinna hai, vaise paryAy us tarah (bhinna)

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nahIn hai. usakA vedan chaitanyamen hotA hai, usakI svAnubhUtikA vedan hotA hai, usakI vItarAg dashAkA vedan hotA hai. isaliye us vibhAv-se (jaise) bhinna paDanA hai, vaise isase bhinna nahIn paDanA hai. is apekShA-se kahA thA.

mumukShu- rAg hai vah bhinna hokar chalA jAtA hai aur isakI andaramen adhik- adhik vRuddhi hotI hai.

samAdhAna- vRuddhi hotI hai. andar chaitanyamen shuddhAtmAmen paryAy pragaT hotI hai. parantu us par dRuShTi dene-se yA usakA Ashray karane-se vah pragaT nahIn hotA. Ashray dravyakA le to hI vah shuddhAtmAkI paryAy pragaT hotI hai. isaliye dRuShTi to ek pUrNa par hI rakhanI hai. paryAy par yA guN par yA usamen rukanA, us par dRuShTi nahIn rakhanI hai. parantu gnAnamen rakhanA hai ki ye paryAy chaitanyake Ashray-se pragaT hotI hai. vah kahIn jaDakI hai aisA (nahIn hai). gnAn yathArtha karanA. dRuShTi pUrNa par rakhanI, parantu gnAn yathArtha ho to usakI sAdhakadashAkI paryAy yathArthapane pragaT hotI hai.

gnAn bhI vaisA hI ho sarva apekShA-se, usakI dRuShTimen aisA hI ho ki main pUrNa hI hUn, ab kuchh karanA nahIn hai, to usamen bhUl paDatI hai. dRuShTi pUrNa par hotI hai, dravya par, parantu gnAnamen aisA hotA hai ki merI paryAy abhI adhUrI hai. vah sab gnAnamen ho to sAdhak dashA pragaT hotI hai. nahIn to usakI dRuShTi jUThI hotI hai. sarva apekShA- se pUrNa hI hUn aur rAg evan apUrNa paryAy, vah rAg to mujh-se bhinna hai, parantu hotA hai chaitanyakI puruShArthakI kamajorI-se. vah sab khyAlamen rakhe to puruShArtha uThatA hai. usamen Ananda dashA, vItarAg dashA sab pragaT hotA hai. pahale dRuShTikI apekShA-se do bhAg hote hain. gnAn usakA vivek karatA hai. gurudevane anek prakAr-se samajhAyA hai. gurudevane param upakAr kiyA hai. sab apekShAen gurudevane samajhAyI hain.

mumukShu- dUsarA prashna- AtmA gnAnasvarUp hai aur usakA lakShaN gnAna. tathA AtmA anubhUtimAtra hai. usamen to mAtra vedanarUp lakShaNase pahachAn karavAyI hai. to pahachAn karaneke liye kaun-sI paddhati saral hai?

samAdhAna- anubhUti lakShaN yAnI usamen gnAn lakShaN kahanA chAhate hain. anubhUti arthAt vedanakI apekShA yahAn nahIn hai. vah to gnAn lakShaN hai. gnAn lakShaN hai vah asAdhAraN hai. gnAn lakShaN-se hI pahachAn hotI hai. anubhUti arthAt gnAn lakShaN kahanA chAhate hain. gnAn lakShaN-se hI usakI pahachAn hotI hai. gnAn lakShaN usakA aisA asAdhAraN lakShaN hai ki usase chaitanyakI pahachAn hotI hai. isaliye anubhUtimen vedan apekShA nahIn lenI hai. vedan to vartamAnamen usakI dRuShTi vibhAv taraph hai. vahAn-se sva-or muDanA. gnAn lakShaN-se pahachAn hotI hai.