Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 240.

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mumukShu- akhaNDa kis prakAr-se AtmAko jAnanA? kyonki khaNDa khaNDa ho gayA to gnAn gnAn nahIn hotA.

samAdhAna- vAstavamen khaNDa khaNDa nahIn huA hai. khaNDa to kShayopasham gnAn hai. to kram-kram-se jAnatA hai. vAstavikamen khaNDa huA hI nahIn hai. padArtha to akhaNDa shAshvat hai, akhaNDa hai. isaliye akhaNDako akhaNDa jAn lenA. aur khaNDa to usakA kShayopasham gnAn kram-kramase jAnatA hai. isaliye khaNDa dikhanemen AtA hai. vAstavamen ek gnAn par dRuShTi rakhe ki main gnAyak jAnanevAlA hUn. isako jAnA, isako jAnA, isako jAnA aise nahIn, parantu main jAnanevAlA svatasiddha gnAyak hUn. vah akhaNDa hI hai. akhaNDa svabhAv hai usakA. bhed-bhed, vAstavikamen bhed huA hI nahIn hai. anAdiananta dravyakA bhed hotA hI nahIn hai. vAstavik bhed nahIn hai. khaNDa to kShayopashamagnAnake kAraN khaNDa huA hai.

mumukShu- svaparaprakAshak vah kab kahanemen Aye? use svaparaprakAshakakA anubhav ho? kis kakShAmen? aur svaparaprakAshakakA samay (kyA hai)? ek hI samayamen svako jAnatA hai, tabhI parako jAnatA hai? athavA kaise jAnatA hai?

samAdhAna- svaparaprakAshak usakA svabhAv hI hai. kab kyA? svaparaprakAshak usakA svabhAv hai. sva aur par donon sAthamen hI jAnatA hai, usamen kram nahIn paDatA. agnAnI parako jAnatA hai, svako nahIn jAnatA hai. gnAnadashA honeke bAd svaparaprakAshakapanA hai. aur pratyakSha svaparaprakAshak kevalagnAnI hain.

jise svabhAvakI astikA gnAn huA, vibhAv meremen nahIn hai, aisA donon gnAn use sAthamen vartatA hai. to vah svaparaprakAshakapanA hai. svaparaprakAshak usakA svabhAv hai. vah svAnubhUtimen jAtA hai tab par-or upayog nahIn hai, isaliye svAnubhUtikA vedan hai. bAhar upayog Aye tab donon jAnatA hai. svako jAnatA hai, parako jAnatA hai. pariNati usakI svaparaprakAshak rahatI hai, gnAnadashA honeke bAda. upayog ek taraph rahatA hai. chhadmasthakA upayog kram-kramase hotA hai. kevalagnAnI ekasAth svaparaprakAshak hai. bAkI samyagdRuShTignakI pariNati svaparaprakAshak rahatI hai.


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samAdhAna- .. vah svayam kar sakatA hai. tU apanI or jA, terI mahimA kar, parakI mahimA chhoD de, tattvakA vichAr kara. svayam puruShArtha kare to apanA upAdAn taiyAr ho. main gnAyak hUn. par taraph-se laganI chhoDakar svakI or jAnA, vah usakA puruShArtha hai. kaise karanA? svayam hI kare. usakI vibhAvakI mahimA TUT jAy, bAharakI mahimA TUT jAya. antarakI mahimA pragaT kare. vah svayam kar sakatA hai. dev-guru-shAstra. gurune jo upadesh diyA, us anusAr svayamkA pariNaman ho jAnA aur aisA puruShArtha karanA, to apanA upAdAn taiyAr ho.

mumukShu- aTak kahAn hai? itanA sunaneke bAd bhI usake dhyAnamen main gnAyak hUn, main gnAyak hUn, aisA vikalpamen AtA hai, phir bhI abhI aTakatA hai kahAn?

samAdhAna- vikalpa-se to abhI dhokhanerUp hai. abhI andar pariNati pragaT karanI chAhiye. aTakatA hI hai. pariNati pragaT nahIn huyI hai to dhokhanA hai, gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn. dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp, svaparaprakAshakA svarUp yathArtha samajhanA chAhiye. abhI vah samajhatA nahIn hai, yathArtha gnAn nahIn hai, yathArtha pratIti nahIn hai. bhAvanA yathArtha kare, vikalpa-se bhAvanA kare, parantu abhI antaramen pariNati pragaT karanI hai. abhI use andaramen bahut karanA bAkI rah jAtA hai. yathArtha pragaT nahIn huA hai. raTanA ho rahA hai. andar taiyArI, apanI mahimA pragaT karanekI AvashyakatA hai. tattvavichAr karake chaitanyako kaise grahaN karanA? vah puruShArtha karanekI AvashyakatA hai.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- ... Idhar AnA dUsarI bAt hai. gurudev bhagavAnake pAs gaye, divyadhvani sunate hain. ... bhagavAnakA darshan karaneke liye Ate hain.

mumukShu- ... hamAre sAmane bolate the ki puruSh deh ho to main ek saikanDa alag nahIn rahatA. aisA hamAre sAmane bole hain.

samAdhAna- ... bhAv dUsarI bAt hai.

mumukShu- Apane bahut khulAsA kiyA. Apane itane kalash chaDhAye, bahut khulAsA huA. ApakI ghaNI kRupA huyI.

samAdhAna- AtmAko nyArA batAyA. nyArA AtmAko grahaN kare aur dev-guru- shAstrako hRudayamen rakhe to gurudevakA yog mil jAtA hai. ... gnAyakako antaramen grahaN karane-se dev-guru-shAstra bhI mil jAte hain. shubhabhAvanA aisI hotI hai.

mumukShu- ApakA AshIrvAd milA hamen.

samAdhAna- guru mil jAte hain.

samAdhAna- .. svabhAvase sAkShI hai. usakA dravya, gnAyakakA svabhAv to sAkShI


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hai, parantu sAkShIrUp pariNaman jo honA chAhiye, vah pariNaman nahIn hai aur rAg-dveShake sAth ekatvabuddhi hai. main rAgarUp ho gayA, dveSharUp ho gayA. aisI pariNati aur aisI mAnyatA, aisI ekatvabuddhi ho gayI hai. pariNati palaTakar main gnAyak anAdiananta shAshvat hUn. aisI pratIt aur aisI pariNati antaramen honI chAhiye ki main sAkShI hI hUn, gnAyak hI hUn. gnAtArUp pariNati pragaT kare aur vah pariNati pragaT karanekA abhyAs kare, vah jabatak sahaj na ho jAy tabataka. sahaj ho, tab usakA vAstavik sAkShIpanA hotA hai. sahaj dashA ho to sAkShI ho. pahale usakA prayatna kare ki main anAdiananta shAshvat gnAyak hUn. kisIke sAth ekatvabuddhi, ekamek honA usakA svabhAv nahIn hai, parantu ekatvabuddhi mAnyatAmen bhram ho gayA hai. pariNati ekatva ho gayI hai, use bhinna karake, main gnAyak hI hUn, pahale usakI pratIti dRuDh kare ki main gnAyak hI hUn. antar-se samajhakar pratIti kare. gnAyakakI dhArA yadi pragaT ho to use kShaN-kShaNamen gnAyakakI dhArA sahaj rahe to sAkShIbhAv rahe. lekin vah gnAyakadhArA rahatI nahIn, sAkShIbhAv rahatA nahIn aur rAg- dveShake sAth ekatvabuddhi ho jAtI hai, isaliye sAkShI nahIn rahatA. mAtra kalpanA-se raTan karake sAkShI mAne to vah rahatA nahIn. sahaj sAkShIpanA ho to rahe. sahaj nahIn hai, isaliye rahatA nahIn.

mumukShu- antar-se samajhakar kare to. antar-se samajhakar kare usakA artha?

samAdhAna- antar-se samajhakar kare (arthAt) vah pariNati pragaT kare to hotA hai. svAnubhUti honeke bAd jo sahaj pariNatikI dashA ho, jo sAkShI gnAyakadhArAkI, vah sahaj hai. usake pahale use abhyAsarUp hotA hai ki main gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn. abhyAsarUp kare. raTanamAtra kare to vah (vAstavik nahIn hai). kShaN-kShaNamen jab rAg- dveSh ho, us kShaN gnAyak yadi maujUd rahe to ekatva nahIn hotA. usI kShaN gnAyak rahatA nahIn aur dUsarI kShaNamen yAd kare to us kShaNamen to use ekatva ho jAtA hai. kShaN-kShaNamen usakI pariNatiko bhinna karanekA abhyAs kare. kShaN-kShaNamen main gnAyak hI hUn, main sAkShI hI hUn, aisA abhyAs kare to bhI abhI abhyAsarUp hai. sahaj to bAdamen hotA hai.

mumukShu- pahale to Apane prashnamen ek bhUl nikAlI ki bAt-bAtamen rAg-dveSh ho jAte hain. vAstavamen to svabhAv apekShA-se rAg-dveSh hote nahIn hai, parantu ekatvatA karatA hai.

samAdhAna- ekatvabuddhi hotI hai, ekatvatA hotI hai. vastu svabhAvamen rAg-dveSh nahIn hote, parantu usakI ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. vartamAnamen to, main rAgarUp ho gayA, dveSharUp ho gayA, aise usakI pariNati, aisI mAnyatA ho gayI hai.


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mumukShu- ekatvabuddhikA nAsh, gnAyakakA bArambAr abhyAs kare to shurUAtamen us prakAr-se bhinnatA ho.

samAdhAna- to shurUAtamen use bhinna paDanekA avakAsh hai. utanI mahimA svayamko gnAyakapanAkI Ave to ho. par-orakI, vibhAvakI mahimA chhUTe, apanI mahimA Ave, nij svabhAv pahachAne ki main yah gnAyak hUn, yah vibhAv hai. svabhAvakI mahimA to us taraph usakA puruShArtha bArambAr chale.

paramArtha svarUp jo gnAnamAtra, gnAnamAtra vah main. gnAnamAtramen pUrA gnAyak liyA hai. jitanA gnAnasvabhAv vah main, anya main nahIn. gnAnasvabhAv jitanA main, parantu gnAnamen sab bharA hai. usamen pUrA gnAyak liyA hai. pUrA mahimAvant gnAyak ananta shakti-se bharA pUrA gnAyak hai. jitanA gnAnamAtra, gnAyak so main, gnAnamAtra so main. usamen prIti kar, usamen ruchi kar to usamen-se aho! uttam sukhakI prApti hogI. usamen prIt kar, usamen ruchi kara. usamen santuShTa ho jA. usamen ruchi, prIti, santuShTa aur usamen lIn ho, usamen-se hI tujhe santoSh hogA. kahIn aur tujhe jAnA nahIn paDegA. svAnubhUti ho to usamen santoSh Adi sab hotA hai. aur pahale usImen ruchi kar, usamen prIti kar, usamen santoSh mAna. gnAnamAtramen sab hai. gnAyakamAtra AtmAmen sab hai. gnAn arthAt guN nahIn, pUrA gnAyaka.

mumukShu- gnAnamAtra kahane-se pUrA gnAyak lenA.

samAdhAna- pUrA gnAyak lenA. jitanA paramArtha svarUp AtmA, jitanA yah gnAn hai. gnAnamAtra AtmAmen ruchi, prIti, santoSh mAna. dUsarI sab jagah-se chhUT jA. pahale pratIt-se chhUTe pariNati, phir usamen lInatA-chAritrakI visheShatA ho. pahale usakI pratIt kar, ruchi kar, lInatA kara. pahale svarUpAcharaN chAritra hotA hai, bAdamen visheSh hotA hai.

mumukShu- pUrA gnAyak lenA matalab?

samAdhAna- gnAnamAtra AtmA usamen pUrA gnAyak (AtA hai). usamen ruchi kar, prIti kara. jitanA yah gnAnasvarUp AtmA hai, vah main. jitanA yah gnAn hai, gnAn mAne pUrA gnAyak, ek guN nahIn lenA hai.

mumukShu- mahAvIrake bodhake pAtra kaun? usamen sabase pahale kahA ki satsangakA ichchhuka. das prakAr kahe hain, usamen pratham satsangakA ichchhak kahA hai. itanI pradhAnatA denekA kyA prayojan hai? gurudev to use nishchayamen khatAte the. satpuruSh, satsang yAnI terA sat AtmA, usakA sang karo to tujhe... shrImadajIko to nimittarUp-se satpuruSh kahanA hai, aisA lagatA hai. usamen kyA visheShatA hai ki dasamen bhI pahale use mukhya kahA. usamen kyA kahanA chAhate hain?

samAdhAna- satsangamen nishchay-vyavahAr donon andar A jAte hain. anAdi kAlase


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samyagdarshan prApta nahIn huA hai. anAdikAlamen (pratham) deshanAlabdhi hotI hai. usamen ek bAr devakA, gurukA pratyakSha upadesh milatA hai to jIvako deshanAlabdhi (milatI hai). upAdAn apanA hai. upadesh mile, deshanAke sAth sambandha hai. aisA upAdAn-nimittakA sambandha hai. upAdAn apanA hai, parantu aisA nimittakA yog banatA hai aur andarase svayamkI taiyArI hotI hai. aise satsangamen bhI satsangako pahachAne to terA upAdAn taiyAr ho usamen satsang hAjir hotA hai. satsangako khoje, terI taiyArI kara. nimitta-upAdAn donon (sAthamen hote hain).

merI upAdAnakI taiyArI ho usamen mujhe satsang satpuruSh mere sAth hAjir raho. merI sAdhanAmen mujhe satpuruSh hAjir raho. mujhe nimittamen ve ho. mere upAdAnamen mujhe AtmAkA svarUp prApta karanA hai, usamen satpuruSh mere sAth ho. ve kar dete hain, aisA artha nahIn hai. parantu nimitta hotA hai, aisA upAdAnakA sambandha hai. aur nimitta hotA hai aur mumukShuko aisI bhAvanA bhI hotI hai. aur Age jAnevAleko samyagdarshan ho to bhI dev- guru-shAstra taraphakI bhAvanA to rahatI hI hai. vah mAnatA hai ki shubhabhAv merA svarUp nahIn hai, parantu bIchamen vah shubhabhAv Aye binA rahatA nahIn. isaliye main Age baDhan usamen dev-guru-shAstra mere sAth ho.

pravachanasAramen AtA hai na? mere dIkShAke utsavamen sab padhAranA. bhagavAn padhAranA, AchArya bhagavanto, upAdhyAy, sAdhu Adi sab padhAranA. aisA kahate hain. main jA rahA hUn mere-se svayam-se, parantu mere sAth sab padhAranA, yahAn AnA. aise bhAvanA bhAtA hai. aisA upAdAn-nimittakA sambandha hai. usamen ruchi asatsangakI nahIn hotI, satsangakI ruchi hotI hai. phir bAharakA yog kitanA bane vah apane hAthakI bAt nahIn hai. parantu usakI bhAvanA aisI hotI hai ki main AtmAkI sAdhanA karun usamen mujhe dev-guru-shAstra samIp ho, unakI sAnnidhyatA ho, aisI bhAvanA use bIchamen rahatI hai.

mumukShu- use aisI bhAvanA to nirantar (rahatI hai). nirantar satpuruShako ichchhatA hai.

samAdhAna- bhAvanA rahatI hai. puruShArtha mere-se hotA hai. koI kar detA hai, aisI use pratIt nahIn hotI. parantu bhAvanAmen aise nimitta ho ki sAdhanA karanevAle, jinhonne pUrNatA prApta kI, jo AtmAkI sAdhanA karate hain, unakA mujhe sAnnidhya ho, aisI bhAvanA use hotI hai.

mumukShu- nishchay aur vyavahArakI aisI sandhi hotI hai?

samAdhAna- aisI sandhi hotI hai.

mumukShu- aur satsang karanekA bhAv ho to nimittarUpase nirantar satpuruShakA satsang karanekA bhAv Ave.


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samAdhAna- hAn, use bhAvanA Ave. mujhe jAnA hai andar, puruShArthakI gati mujh- se karanI hai, parantu bAharamen bhI mujhe nimitta satpuruShakA nimitta ho, aisI bhAvanA (hotI hai). mujhe mArga batAye, mujhe kahAn jAnA hai, vah sab mArga batAnevAle sachche nimitta mere pAs ho, aisI bhAvanA hotI hai. pratyakSha satpuruShake satsangakI bhAvanA rahatI hai. phir bAharakA yog kitanA bane vah alag bAt hai, parantu aisI bhAvanA use hotI hai.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- .. gurudev devake rUpamen hI the. ye gurudev hain, aise pahachAnA. aur gurudevake sab kapaDe devake the. gurudevane aisA kahA ki, aisA kuchh nahIn rakhanA. main yahIn hUn. phir, dUsarI bAr kahA. gurudev aisA kahate hain, main yahIn hUn. gurudevane phir-se kahA, main yahIn hUn. kahA, padhAro gurudev! aho..! aho! sadaguru.. mainne kyA kahA vah yAd nahIn hai. padhAro gurudev! aisA kahA. phir gurudevane kahA, main yahIn hUn. phir kahA, mujhe kadAchit aisA lage, lekin ye sab bechAre gurudev, gurudev karate hain. sabako kaise (samajhAnA)? gurudev kuchh bole nahIn. gurudevane itanA kahA ki main yahIn hUn. Apako aisA kuchh nahIn rakhanA, main yahIn hUn.

mumukShu- ham sabako aisA hI lagatA thA ki gurudev yahIn hai. parantu gurudevakI anupasthiti mAlUm hI nahIn paDatI.

samAdhAna- gurudev... kaun jAne aisA atishay ho gayA. sabako aisA ho gayA. mainne turanta kisIko nahIn kahA thA. phir sabake manamen aisA ho gayA thA ki gurudev yahAn hai. svapnamen aisA lage ki gurudev hI hai.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- aisA rakhanA hI nahIn. main yahIn hUn. do bAr aisA kahA. phir kisI aurane kahA, gurudev aisA kahate hain ki main yahIn hUn. gurudev kuchh bole nahIn, parantu gurudevane itanA kahA, main yahIn hUn. main yahIn hUn, bahin! main yahIn hUn. manamen aisA chalatA thA na, isaliye. .. Aye ho na, aisA devakA pahanAvA. aur mudrAmen gurudev jaisA lage aur dUsarI taraph-se dev jaisA lage. mugaT Adi, devakA rUp hotA hai na, devakA rUpa.

mumukShu- panchamakAlamen dev Ate hain.

samAdhAna- ... isaliye main kahatI thI ki gurudev sab dekhate hain. upayog rakhe to gurudevako sab dikhatA hai. gurudev yahAn-se bhagavAnake pAs jAte hain. Upar-se sab dikhatA hai. vimAnamen jAte hain. mahAvideh, bharatakShetra sab samIp hI hai. yahAn bagalamen mahAvideh kShetra hai. parantu yahAn bIchamen pahAD A gaye isaliye kuchh dikhatA nahIn hai. sabakI shakti kam ho gayI hai.


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jambUdvIpakA mahAvideh, puShkalAvatI, punDaragirI, bharat Adi sab najadIk hai. devamen- se sab dikhatA hai. dhUl hI dikhe, dUsarA kuchh nahIn dikhe. aur ratnake pahAD hain, ratnonke pahAD dikhe nahIn, kuchh dikhe nahIn. sab dhUl dikhatI hai. use dekhanekI shakti nahIn hai. bharat chakravartIke Ankhamen aisI shakti thI, unakI Ankhamen puNya thA to unhen Ankhamen- se dikhatA thA. sUryake andar bhagavAnakI pratimA aur mandir dikhate the. yahAnke logonko... jise chashmA AyA ho, use kahe ki yah sUI hai aur usakA chhed hai, chashmA ho use kuchh dikhatA nahIn. vah kahe, nahIn hai, to vah jUThA hai. aise abhI shakti kam ho gayI. netramen tej nahIn hai, kuchh dikhAI na detA, dhUl hI dikhe na, aur kyA dikhe? ratnake pahAD kahAn-se dikhe? Upar devalok hai vah kahAn-se dikhe? usakA prakAsh- ratnonkA prakAsh dekhakar usake netra chaundh jAte hain.

gurudev Aye aisA svapna AyA. gurudev padhAro, padhAro aisA kahA. gurudev ekadam.. gurudev Aye.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!