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mumukShu- ... satpuruShakI sab AgnA mAnanA chAhiye. to AgnA kitanI-kitanI prakArakI hotI hai? kyonki ve kahate hain ki koI prakArakI bhI apAtratA rah jAtI hai to mumukShu kalyANake yogya nahIn hotA hai.

samAdhAna- kitane prakArakI AgnA kyA? satpuruShakI AgnA to apanI pAtratA dekhakar AgnA karate hain. AgnA kitane prakArakI hotI hai? .. gnAnIkA Ashay grahaN karanA chAhiye. gnAnI kahate hain, kyA kahate hain? Ashay grahaN karake apanI pariNati pragaT karanA chAhiye. anek jAtamen kahAn-kahAn jIv ruk jAtA hai. svachchhanda, matAgrah, apanI mAnI huyI kalpanAommen (aTak jAtA hai). satpuruShakA Ashaya3 kyA hai, vah Ashay grahaN karake vastukA svarUp samajhanA chAhiye. yathArtha samajhakarake kyA karanA chAhiye usakA Ashay grahaN karanA chAhiye. ve kyA kahate hain?

svayam nirNay kare use satpuruShake Ashayake sAth milAn karanA. gnAnIkA kyA Ashay hai? main kyA mAnatA hUn? Ashay yathArthapane jo nirNay karatA hai, usake sAth milAn karatA hai. kyA kahate hain, yah samajhanA chAhiye. us prakAr apanI pariNati pragaT karanI chAhiye. ve kahate hain, us prakAr-se. ... grahaN karake apanI pariNati pragaT karanA chAhiye. puruShArtha karanA chAhiye. puruShArthakI mandatA hove to gnAnI jo kahate hain us par pratIt karanI chAhiye. aur bhAvanA rakhanI chAhiye ki main kaise Age jAUn? aisA puruShArtha karanA chAhiye.

apane matamAn kahIn na kahIn aTak jAtA hai. gnAnIkA Ashay kyA hai? dev-shAstra- guru kyA kahate hain? use grahaN karake us anusAr apanI pariNatiko, apane puruShArthako us anusAr chAlU kare to yathArtha mArga use pragaT hotA hai. usakA Ashay grahaN karanA chAhiye. chAron taraph-se gnAnI kyA kahate hain? unakA Ashay kyA hai? use grahaN karake apanI pariNati kar lenI chAhiye.

... vah gnAnIkA Ashay grahaN kar letA hai. dev-guru-shAstra kyA kahate hain, vah grahaN kar sakatA hai. usakI pAtratA aisI hotI hai. yadi pAtratA nahIn hove to apanI mati kalpanA-se ruk jAtA hai.

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mumukShu- 47 shaktionkA smaraN karate hain. apane svabhAvakI mahimA lAneke liye kyA bArambAr shaktiyonkA smaraN karanA chAhiye? usase svabhAvakI mahimA...

samAdhAna- ... smaraN karatA hai... mumukShuko kyA karanA? gnAnI kyA kahate hain, usakA Ashay grahaN karanA chAhiye. ve aisA karate the, isaliye hamen bhI aisA karanA chAhiye, aisA artha nahIn hai. shaktiyonko grahaN karanemen to usakA lAbh hai, koI nukasAn nahIn hai. 47 shaktikA smaraN karake usakA abhyAs kare to Atma svarUpakI mahimA AtI hai. aisA karanemen kuchh (dikkat nahIn hai), kar sakatA hai. usamen koI aisA nahIn hotA.

gurudev aisA karate the, isaliye aisA karanA, aisA kuchh nahIn hai. jisako jo ruche so karanA. koI gnAyak-gnAyak karatA hai, to bhedagnAn karanekA abhyAs karanA. usake sAth shAstramen kyA (kahA hai)? svayamko shankA ho to nishank honeke liye koI tattva vichAr svayamko jo ruche so karanA. gurudev aisA karate the isaliye aisA karanA, usakA koI artha nahIn hai. svayamko yadi usamen mahimA AtI hai to vah karanA. usamen to lAbh hai. apaneko lAbh lage to vah karanA. mujhe kisamen ras AtA hai, us anusAr karanA.

mujhe kyA smaraN karanA? mujhe gnAyakakA abhyAs karaneke liye kisakA smaraN karanA? chaitanyakI shaktiyAn vichAranI. 47 shaktiyAn vichAranI, gnAyakakA vichAr karanA, usakA satya svarUp kyA? shAstra anek prakAr kyA Ate hain? svayamko jahAn ruchi ho vah karanA.

gurudev to mahApuruSh thA. unakI pariNatimen jo unhen lagatA thA vah karate the, isaliye dUsaronko aise hI karanA, aisA usakA artha nahIn hai. unakA shrutagnAn to apUrva thA. unhen to shrutakI dhArA apUrva thI. anek jAtakI unhen shrutakI labdhiyAn pragaT huyI thI. unhen usamen ras AtA thA to aisA karate the. isaliye sabako aisA karanA aisA usakA artha nahIn hai. ve to aisA vichAr karate the, bAkI to anek jAtakA chintavan unhen chalatA thA. vah ek hI chintavan thA, aisA nahIn hai. unhen to anek jAtakA (chintavan chalatA thA). unhonne to shAstronke shAstra khol diye. shAstronkA rahasya khol diyA. unhen to andar shAstronkA samudra khulA thA.

usamen-se ve bArambAr usakA smaraN karate the. unhen usamen ras AtA thA. unhen andar shAstramen-se Ananda AtA thA. ek 47 shaktiyAenke liye nahIn, kitanI gAthAonkA unhen Ananda AtA thA.

mumukShu- bahut gAthAmen kahate the, yah gAthA to apUrva hai, yah gAthA to apUrva hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, unhen to bahut gAthAonkA Ananda AtA thA.

mumukShu- bahut apekShAen AtI hain, ... buddhi to thoDI hai, apekShAen bahut hain,

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usake liye kyA upAy hai?

samAdhAna- apekShAen bahut hain. mUl dravyadRuShTikA prayojan, muktikA mArga jisase sadhe vah grahaN karanA. dravya-paryAyakA, nishchay-vyavahArakA sambandha kaise hai, vah vichAranA. main shAshvat anAdiananta dravya hUn, usamen paryAyakI sAdhanA kaise hove? paryAy adhUrI hai, dravya pUrNa hai, usakA mel kaise hove? yah sab sandha karake, shAstramen bahut apekShAen AtI hai, un sab apekShAonkA sambandha karake AtmAmen jaise lAbh ho, vaisA karanA. dravyAnuyogamen bahut AtA hai. usako yathArtha samajh lenA chAhiye.

anAdi-se bhram ho rahA hai, ekatvabuddhi-paryAyamen dRuShTi hai. dravya anAdiananta shAshvat shuddha hai, usamen paryAyakI ashuddhatA kaise hai? usakI sAdhanA kaise hove? sAdhya pUrNakA lakShya karake aur paryAyakI sAdhanA-shuddhAtmAmen shuddha paryAy pragaT hotI hai. samyagdarshan hove to turanta kevalagnAn nahIn hotA hai. bIchamen sAdhakadashA rahatI hai. to dravyadRuShTi pragaT karake svAnubhUti aur samyagdarshan pragaT hove to bhI lInatA bAkI rahatI hai. kevalagnAn (hone tak). sAdhak aur sAdhyakA kaise mel hai? yah sab samajhakar sab apekShA samajhanI chAhiye. dravya-guN-paryAyakI sab apekShA samajhakar, mukhya mukti mArga kaise hai vah grahaN karanA chAhiye.

dravyadRuShTike prayojanake sAth nishchay-vyavahArakA sambandha kaise hai, yah samajhakar sab samajhanA chAhiye. dravyadRuShTi mukhya rakhakar usamen paryAy bhI ashuddha hai, kaise svAnubhUti hove? usakI pUrNatA hove, usakI lInatA hove, yah kevalagnAn tak aisA sab mel karake sab samajhanA chAhiye.

mumukShu- paryAy gauN karake bhinna kahI jAtI hai yA vAstavamen vah bhinna hokarake dRuShTike viShayako viShay banAtI hai?

samAdhAna- vAstavik bhinna nahIn hai. dravyadRuShTi mukhya hotI hai to usamen paryAy gauN ho jAtI hai. vah (-paryAy) ansh hai, vah (-dravya) anshI hai. akhaNDa dravya par dRuShTi jAne-se paryAyakA lakShya gauN ho jAtA hai. dravya aur paryAy bilakUl bhinna hove to paryAy dravya ho jAtI hai. paryAy aise nahIn hotI hai ki dravyakA koI Ashray nahIn hai paryAyako aur paryAy nirAdhAr hai, aisA to nahIn hai.

paryAy ek ansh hai isaliye svatantra hai. parantu vah ansh anshIkA ansh hai. isaliye usako gauN rakhakarake samajhanA chAhiye.

mumukShu- gauN rakhe? samAdhana- gauN rakhe. dRuShTike joramen dravya mukhya hai to paryAy gauN hai. paryAy aur dravya vaise svatantra nahIn hai. vah ansharUp-se svatantra hai. paryAyako dravyakA Ashray

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rahatA hai. kaise svatantra hai, yah apekShA samajhanI chAhie.

mumukShu- ... pharamAyA ki samyagdarshanake viShayamen samyagdarshanakI paryAy nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- samyagdarshan paryAy viShayamen nahIn hai?

mumukShu- hAn, viShayamen.

samAdhAna- samyagdarshanakA viShay nahIn hai, parantu usamen gauN rah jAtI hai. viShay to dravya hai. viShay dravya hai. paryAyako viShay nahIn karatI, dRuShTi viShay nahIn karatI hai. gnAnamen gauNapane rah jAtA hai.

mumukShu- gnAnamen rahatA hai, gauNapane.

samAdhAna- gnAnamen rahatA hai. dRuShTi aur gnAn donon sAthamen rahate hain. dRuShTi alag aur gnAn alag (aisA nahIn). dRuShTi samyak huyI usake sAth gnAn bhI rahatA hai. dRuShTi aur gnAn sAthamen rahate hain, gnAnamen vah paryAy gauN rahatI hai. dRuShTikA viShay dravya hai to bhI dRuShTi aur gnAn donon bhinna-bhinna nahIn hai. dRuShTike sAth jo gnAn rahatA hai to gnAnamen vah paryAy khyAlamen rahatI hai. viShay bhale dravya hove, to bhI paryAy rahatI hai. paryAyakA gnAn usake sAth rahatA hai. gnAn, dravya aur paryAy dononko jAnatA hai. gnAnamen dravya aur paryAy donon sAthamen rahate hain.

samAdhAna- ... sab karane lAyak sarvasva ho to AtmAmen sab kuchh hai. bAharamen kuchh hai nahIn. bAharamen to ekatvabuddhi, abhyAs bAharakA hai isaliye bhItaramen jAtA nahIn hai. to puruShArtha apane karanA paDatA hai. puruShArtha kare, puruShArtha karane-se hotA hai. apanA pramAd hai, kisIkA doSh nahIn hai. gurudevane to bahut batAyA hai, karanA to apaneko paDatA hai.

main gnAyak hUn, bAkI sab vibhAv hai. vibhAvamen sukh nahIn hai, sukh AtmAmen hai. ye sab AkulatArUp hai-dukharUp hai. aisI pratIt, dRuDhatApUrvak pratIt karanI chAhiye. pratIt kare aur puruShArtha kare to hotA hai. bArambAr-bArambAr usakA abhyAs karanA paDatA hai. ek daphe kare aisA nahIn, bArambAr (kare).

gurudevane jo batAyA hai, jo shAstramen AyA hai. puruShArtha to koI rokatA nahIn hai. karma rokate nahIn hai, koI padArtha rokate nahIn, apane kAraN-se ruk jAtA hai. bAharamen ruchi hai. svarUpamen ruchi karanI chAhiye.

mumukShu- kuchh log kahate hain ki kramabaddhaparyAyake bahAne, jo honA hai vahI hogA. puruShArtha to ham bahut karate hain, lekin nahIn hotA hai to kramabaddhaparyAyamen nahIn hai. hone yogya nahIn hai to kaise hogA? usakA kyA kiyA jAy? usakA samAdhAn kyA hai?

samAdhAna- kramabaddha aise kramabaddha nahIn hotA hai. kramabaddha to, puruShArthake sAth

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kramabaddha hotA hai. gurudev kahate hain ki gnAyak taraph dRuShTi karo. gnAyakako jisane samajhA, usane kramabaddhako samajhA. jo gnAyak nahIn samajhatA hai, usako kramabaddha bhI samajhamen nahIn AyA hai. kramabaddhake sAth puruShArthakA sambandha hai. puruShArtha binA kramabaddha nahIn hai. jisake lakShyamen puruShArtha nahIn hai, usakA kramabaddha yathArtha nahIn hotA. vah to sansArakA kramabaddha hai.

jise puruShArthakI dRuShTi hotI hai, usakA kramabaddha mokShake taraph jAtA hai. puruShArthake sAth kramabaddhako sambandha hai. aise kAl, svabhAv Adi, pAnch labdhiyAn sAthamen hotI hai tab apanA kArya hotA hai. kramabaddha akelA samajhane-se nahIn hotA, puruShArtha pUrvak kramabaddha samajhanA.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! jab paryAyamen alpagnatA hai to sarvagna svabhAvakA vishvAs kaise AyegA?

samAdhAna- paryAyamen alpagnatA bhale hove. apanA svabhAv sarvagna hai. paryAy alpagna hove to bhI vishvAs ho sakatA hai. sarvagnakI pariNati pragaT karanemen to der lagatI hai. sarvagnakI pratIt to ho sakatI hai. pratIt honemen alpagna paryAy usamen rokatI nahIn hai. sarvagnakI pratIt to ho sakatI hai ki main sarvagna hUn. aisI pratIti ho sakatI hai. main gnAyak, sampUrNa gnAyak hUn. main sarvagna shakti-se sarvagna hUn. pragaT nahIn huA, parantu aisI pratIt ho sakatI hai.

mumukShu- svAnubhUtike liye hamako indriyagnAn bAdhak lagatA hai. indriy gnAn .. to anubhUti hogI.

samAdhAna- apane karane-se hotA hai, indriyakA gnAn rokatA nahIn hai. atIndriy gnAn pragaT karanemen apanI ruchi badal denI. svarUp taraph ruchi kare, usamen lInatA kare, pratIt kare. jisakA svabhAv main gnAyak hUn, gnAnamAtra svabhAv hai utanA main hUn. usamen vishvAs karake usamen sthir ho jAy, lInatA kare to atIndriy gnAn pragaT hotA hai. indriy gnAn usamen rokanevAlA nahIn hai. bhItaramen-se pragaT karanA apane hAthakI bAt hai. koI indriyagnAn usamen rokatA nahIn hai. indriyagnAn hove isaliye atIndriy nahIn hotA hai, aisA nahIn hai.

bhItaramen-se pragaT karanA svayamsiddha apanA svabhAv hai. apaneAp, apAriNAmik dravya apaneAp pragaT kar sakatA hai. dev-guru-shAstra usakA nimitta hotA hai. upAdAn apanA hai. jo jinendra devane batAyA, jo gurudevane batAyA, jo shAstramen hotA hai, sab apane karanA paDatA hai. atIndriy gnAn pragaT kare, usamen svAnubhUti pragaT karanA apane hAthakI bAt hai. koI kar nahIn detA hai. usamen koI rokatA nahIn hai. indriy gnAn usamen rukAvaT nahIn karatA hai.

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mumukShu- gurudev kahate the ki gnAn parako jAnatA hI nahIn hai. to ham karen kyA?

samAdhAna- gurudev aisA nahIn kahate the, parako nahIn jAnatA hai aisA nahIn kahate the. gurudev kahate the, svaparaprakAshak gnAn hai. shAstramen aisA AtA hai. svaparaprakAshak gnAnakA svabhAv hai. par taraph terI ekatvabuddhi hai. paramen upayog lagatA hai to parako main jAnatA hUn, svako bhUl gayA hai. svakA gnAn pragaT kara. parako tU jAnatA nahIn hai aisA nahIn hai. svaparaprakAshak gnAnakA svabhAv hai. jAnanekA haTAnA nahIn hai, apanI ruchi badalanI hai. upayog palaT de. upayog sva taraph kar le. main gnAyak svabhAv hUn. usamen jo sahaj svabhAv svaparaprakAshak hai, kevalagnAnamen svaparaprakAshak svabhAv pragaT hotA hai.

upayog bAhar gneyamen lag jAtA hai, gney upayukta (hotA hai), gneyamen ekamek ho jAtA hai. gneyamen ekamek nahIn honA. bhedagnAn karake apane svarUpamen lIn honA. to apanA svaparaprakAshak gnAn pragaT hotA hai.

mumukShu- pUjya mAtAjI! AbAlagopAl sabhIko bhagavAn AtmA jAnanemen A rahA hai. thoDA-sA spaShTi kijIye.

samAdhAna- AbAlagopAlako jAnanemen A rahA hai usakA artha aisA nahIn hai ki jAnanemen A rahA hai isaliye usakI anubhUti ho rahI hai, usakI svAnubhUti ho rahI hai (aisA nahIn hai). anubhUti aisI ho rahI hai ki svayamsiddha AtmA hai. usakA asAdhAraN gnAnasvabhAv hai. vah gnAnasvabhAv apane svabhAvarUpase pariNamatA hai, vibhAvarUp nahIn huA hai. dravyadRuShTi-se svabhAvarUp pariNamatA hai. AbAlagopAl sab gnAnamen jAn sakate hain. usakA artha aisA nahIn hai ki usakI anubhUti arthAt samyakagnAn ho gayA, aisA usakA artha nahIn hai.

gnAnasvabhAv sabako lakShyamen A sakatA hai. asAdhAraN gnAnasvabhAv hai. sab jAn sakate haiain ki main gnAnasvabhAv AtmA hUn. ye jaD kuchh jAnate nahIn. main jAnanevAlA hUn, aisI pratIt sab AbAlagopAl kar sakate hain. main jAnanevAlA hUn, ye jaD nahIn jAnatA hai, main jAnanevAlA hUn. apane svabhAvarUp gnAnasvabhAv anAdiananta hai. vah gnAn jaD nahIn huA. vah gnAnasvabhAv AbAlagopAl sab jAn sakate hain. gnAnakI anubhUti hotI hai. yathArtha svabhAvamen lIn hokar svAnubhUti ho rahI hai, aisA artha nahIn hai. anubhUti arthAt gnAn sabako hai. aisA asAdhAraN gnAnasvabhAv sabako jAnanemen AtA hai. usakA artha aisA hai. jaD nahIn hai. gnAnasvabhAv sabako anubhavamen A rahA hai, aisA gnAnasvabhAv anubhavamen A rahA hai. samyakarUp-se (A rahA hai), aisA nahIn. usakA lakShaN, jo lakShaN hai vah AbAlagopAl sab jAn sakate hain. aisA usakA gnAnasvabhAv hai.