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samAdhAna- ... use dharma ho, thoDA sAmAyik yA upavAs kar le to dharma ho jAy, aisA sab mAnate the. usamen aisI antar dRuShTi batAnevAle aise gurudev (mile). gnAyak AtmAko pahachAn, yah sab kahanevAle mile. sthAnakavAsI, derAvAsI, digambar sabakI dRuShTi bAhar thI. digambarommen bhI itanA paDh le, itanA raTan kar le to dharma hogA yA tattvArtha sUtra (paDh len), usamen dharma mAnate the. aisemen gurudevane dRuShTi dI. samayasAr to koI paDhate nahIn the. gurudevane samayasArake rahasya khole. paNDit log kahate the na? ham log samayasAr paDhate the, usamen AtmAkI bAt AtI thI use chhoD dete the. kitane lAkhon jIvonko (mArga batAyA). sachchA yathArtha honA vah puruShArthakI bAt hai. parantu antaramen kuchh karanekA hai, aisA mArga gurudevane batAyA, aisA mArga batA diyA.

mumukShu- .. Ate hI pAp to jaise dUr hI bhAg jAte hain aur mithyAtva thar- thar kAmpane lagatA hai. aisA mujhe aTUT vishvAs huA hai ki Apake charaNonkI kRupA- se hI mere bhavakA ant AnevAlA hai. kRupA karake yah batAIye ki sAmAnya gnAnakA AvirbhAv aur visheSh gnAnakA tirobhAv kaise karen?

samAdhAna- sAmAnya svarUp AtmA hai, anAdiananta. vahI svarUp sAmAnya svarUp (hai). visheSh, par-se dRuShTi uThAkar sAmAnya par dRuShTi sthApit karane-se sAmAnyakA AvirbhAv hotA hai, visheShakA tirobhAv hotA hai. dRuShTi bAhya hai, dRuShTi vibhAvamen ekatvabuddhi hai. bAharamen vibhAvake visheSh par hai to sAmAnya svarUp jo AtmA, akhaNDa AtmA usake bhed par lakShya nahIn karake, ek sAmAnya par dRuShTi karane-se shuddha paryAy pragaT hotI hai. to sAmAnyakA AvirbhAv hotA hai, visheShakA tirobhAv hotA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! ye bhed par-se dRuShTi kyon nahIn haTatI hai?

samAdhAna- apane puruShArthakI mandatA-se nahIn haTatI hai. puruShArtha manda hai aur ruchi bAharamen hai, ekatvabuddhi hai. isaliye nahIn haTatI hai. bhItaramen ruchi, mahimA (Aye). AtmAkA svarUp sarvasva hai aur ye sarvasva nahIn hai-vibhAv sarvasva nahIn hai. AtmA hI sarvasva hai, aisA bhItaramen lagane lage, isakI mahimA lage to dRuShTaShTi (vahAn-se) uTh jAy, to dRuShTi antaramen AtI hai.

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mumukShu- svAnubhavamen chitachamatkAr svarUp bhAsatA hai, isakA artha kRupA karake batAIye.

samAdhAna- sAmAnya svarUp par nahIn hai, bhed-bhed par dRuShTi hai. visheSh yAnI bhed- bhed par dRuShTi hai, vah dRuShTi uThAkar sAmAnyamen dRuShTi sthApit kar de to sAmAnya par dRuShTi karane-se chaitanya chamatkAr, nirvikalpa tattva (kI) nirvikalpa svAnubhUti hotI hai. isamen chitachamatkAr AtmA, jo chaitanyakA chamatkAr hai vah svAnubhUtimen AtA hai. isakA upAy ek hI hai ki dravya par dRuShTi karane-se chaitanya chamatkAr pragaT hotA hai. visheSh par jo dRuShTi hai, vah visheSh gauN hokar AtmAkA sAmAnya svarUp pragaT hotA hai.

chaitanya chamatkAr nirvikalpa svarUpamen pragaT hotA hai. vikalpa-se ekatvabuddhi toDakar AtmAkI pratIti karane-se vikalpa chhUT jAtA hai aur nirvikalpa svarUpamen svAnubhUtimen chaitanya chamatkAr pragaT hotA hai. nirvikalpa svAnubhUti hone-se chaitanya chamatkAr hotA hai. sAmAnya svarUp AtmAko lakShyamen lene-se, usakI pratIt karane-se, usamen lInatA karane- se vah pragaT hotA hai. sAmAnyamen pragaT hotA hai. bhed par dRuShTi karane-se nahIn pragaT hotA hai.

mumukShu- bhinna upAsatA huA gnAyak shuddha hotA hai, isakA kyA artha hai?

samAdhAna- par bhAvon-se bhinna upAsatA huA...?

mumukShu- gnAyak shuddha..

samAdhAna- shuddha gnAyaka. par bhAvon-se bhinna hai AtmA. par bhAv apanA svarUp nahIn hai. par bhAv-se bhinna upAsanA, chaitanyakI upAsanA kare. chaitanyakI sevA, ArAdhanA chaitanyakI kare. bArambAr main chaitanya hUn, aisA abhyAs kare. pragaT to yathArtha bAdamen hotA hai. (pahale tat) bArambAr usakI upAsanA kare. main gnAyak hUn. par dravya, par bhAv, guNakA bhed, paryAyakA bhed parase dRuShTi uThAkar, AtmA gnAyakakI upAsanA kare. bArambAr main gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn. gnAyakakI pariNati pragaT kare.

gnAyak svarUp hai, aisA bolane mAtra nahIn, raTan mAtra nahIn, parantu yathArtha pariNati kare. isakI upAsanA kare, isakI ArAdhanA kare. isamen tadrUp hove to usamen gnAyak pragaT hotA hai. shuddha gnAyak, main shuddhAtmA gnAyak hUn. aise lInatA karane-se pragaT hotA hai. yah main nahIn hUn, vibhAv main nahIn hUn, svabhAv main gnAyak hUn. isakI upAsanA karanA.

mumukShu- pratham upasham samyagdarshan kitane kAl TikatA hai?

samAdhAna- antarmuhUrta TikatA hai. antarmuhUrta, kitanA antarmuhUrta isakA koI mAp nahIn hai. samyagdarshanakA kAl antarmuhUrta hI hotA hai. antarmuhUrta TikatA hai. usako khyAlamen A jAtA hai. svAnubhUti huyI, vah use pakaDamen A jAtI hai. upayog bAhar-se chhUTakar

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bhItaramen lIn ho jAtA hai. svarUpakI pratIti, gnAn upayog usamen lIn ho jAtA hai. khyAlamen A jAtA hai. upayogakA kAl antarmuhUrta hai. bAdamen bAhar A jAtA hai.

svAnubhUti huyI to vah khyAlamen A jAtA hai. jagat-se judI aisI svAnubhUti, duniyA- se anupam, vibhAv-se anupam aisI svAnubhUti hotI hai to usako khyAlamen A jAtA hai, gnAnamen A jAtA hai. svAnubhUti antarmuhUrta TikatI hai. bAhar Akar gnAyakakI dhArA rahatI hai. gnAyakadhArA. udayadhArA aur gnAyakadhArA donon chalatI hain. svAnubhUtimen antarmuhUrta rahatA hai.

mumukShu- .. dukh lagatA nahIn aur AtmAkA patA nahIn hai. kaise jAnekI vartamAn paryAy dukharUp hai aur AtmA chaitanya trikAlI hai. usakA anubhav karane-se sukh hotA hai. kaisA AtmA, yah patA nahIn chalatA hai.

samAdhAna- vartamAn paryAyamen dukh lagatA hai?

mumukShu- nahIn lagatA hai.

samAdhAna- nahIn lage to bhItaramen kaise jAy? jisako antaramen jAnA hai, usako vibhAv achchhA nahIn hai, merA svabhAv achchhA hai, aisI ruchi to honI chAhiye. ruchike binA bhItaramen nahIn jA sakatA. ruchi honI chAhiye. yah karane lAyak nahIn hai, yah yathArtha nahIn hai, yah dukharUp hai. merA svabhAv sukharUp hai. aisI ruchi to honI chAhiye. yathArtha svabhAvako bAdamen grahaN kare, parantu ruchi to honI chAhiye.

viparItatA, ashuchirUp, dukharUp, dukhake kAraN, ye sab dukharUp hai, dukhakA kAraN hai, aisA to honA chAhiye. jo AtmArthI hotA hai, AtmAkA jisako prayojan hai, usako vibhAv achchhA nahIn lagatA hai. ye dukharUp hai, ye achchhA nahIn hai, ye vibhAv achchhA nahIn hai. merA svabhAv hI sukharUp hai. aisI ruchi to honI chAhiye. bAdamen aisA gnAn aur pratIt, vichAr karake dRuDh kare. parantu ruchi to honI chAhiye. ruchi nahIn hotI hai to Age nahIn baDh sakatA. mujhe AtmAkA karanA hai. AtmAmen sarvasva hai, ye vibhAv achchhA nahIn hai. aisA honA chAhiye.

main AtmA trikAl shAshvat hUn. vichAr karake, lakShaN-se nakkI karatA hai ki gnAn hai vah sukharUp hai, gnAnamen AkulatA nahIn hai, gnAn sukharUp hai. guru kahate hain, dev kahate hain, shAstramen AtA hai. vichAr karake yukti-se, nyAy-se gnAn lakShaN-se pahachAn lenA chAhiye. ruchi to honI hI chAhiye. sva taraphakI ruchike binA Age nahIn baDh sakatA. dukh to AtmArthIko lagatA hI hai. ye achchhA nahIn hai. vartamAn paryAyajo chalatI hai vah achchhI nahIn hai. svabhAv achchhA hai, usakI ruchi to honI chAhiye. jisako vibhAv achchhA lagatA hai, vah Age nahIn baDh sakatA.

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chaitanya tattva hI hUn. visheSh bhedabhAv gauN karake shuddhAtmAkI paryAy pragaT hotI hai. vibhAvakI paryAy gauN ho jAtI hai. main chaitanya shuddhAtmA hUn, aisI pratIt to dRuDh karanI chAhiye, aisA gnAn karanA chAhiye, usakI lInatA honI chAhiye. to svAnubhUti hotI hai. bArambAr main gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn, aisA vichAr karake, lakShaN pahachAnakar (Age baDhanA). yathArtha pIchhAn hove to bhI usakA abhyAs karanA chAhiye. ye achchhA nahIn hai, main chaitanya gnAyak hUn. sAmAnya svarUp anAdiananta (hUn). guNakA bhed, paryAyakA bhed par dRuShTi nahIn karake, main chaitanya hUn. usamen guN hai, paryAy hai to bhI dRuShTi to akhaNDa par rakhanI chAhiye. gnAn sabakA hotA hai, parantu dRuShTi ek akhaNDa chaitanya sAmAnya par hotI hai. dravyadRuShTike bal-se usamen lInatA (hotI hai).

dRuShTi-samyagdarshan hone-se sab nahIn ho jAtA hai. lInatA-chAritra, svarUp ramaNatA- lInatA bAkI rahatA hai. munion chhaThaven-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate hain. lInatA visheSh ho jAtI hai. samyagdRuShTiko itanI lInatA nahIn hotI. to bhI usako svAnubhUti hotI hai. svarUpAcharaN chAritra hotA hai. bhedagnAnakI dhArA chalatI hai. svAnubhUti-se bAhar Ave to bhedagnAnakI dhArA kShaN-kShaN, kShaN-kShaN, kShaN-kShaNamen khAte-pIte, jAgate, svapnamen bhedagnAnakI dhArA (chalatI hai). gnAyakadhArA aur udayadhArA donon bhinna chalatI hai. koI-koI bAr svAnubhUti hotI hai. nirvikalpa svAnubhUti-se bAhar Ave to bhedagnAnakI dhArA (chalatI hai).

usake pahale usakI mahimA karanI chAhiye, usakI laganI karanI chAhiye, tattvakA vichAr karanA chAhiye, AtmAkA svabhAv pahachAnanA chAhiye. AtmAkA gnAn lakShaN (pahachAnakar) main gnAyak hUn, main akhaNDa gnAyak hUn, usako vichAr karake grahaN karanA chAhiye. usake bhedagnAnakA abhyAs karanA chAhiye. main chaitanya akhaNDa hUn. main vibhAv- se (bhinna hUn). guNabhed, paryAyabhed Adi bhedamen vikalpa AtA hai. vAstavik bhed AtmAmen nahIn hai. AtmA akhaNDa hai. isamen gnAn, darshan, chAritra sab hai. lakShaN bhinna-bhinna hai, to bhI vastu ek hai. usakA nirNay karake usakI pratIt karanI chAhiye. usamen lInatA karanI chAhiye.

mumukShu- .. bAharamen to achchhA lagatA nahIn hai. andar jAnemen kitanA samay lagegA?

samAdhAna- kyA kahate hain? bAharamen achchhA nahIn (lagatA). svabhAvakI pahachAn kare to, svabhAvakA lakShaN pahachAnakar usakI pratIt dRuDh hove, bArambAr abhyAs kare. jisako yathArtha puruShArtha uThatA hai to antarmuhUrtamen ho jAtA hai. aur visheSh puruShArtha kare to, AchAryadev kahate hain, chha mahinemen ho jAtA hai. parantu itanA abhyAs nahIn karatA hai. achchhA nahIn lagatA hai, dukh lagatA hai to bhI svarUpakA lakShaN pIchhAnakar usakA

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astitva grahaN karanA chAhiye. usakA astitva grahaN karake yah main nahIn hUn aur yah main hUn. chaitanyakA astitva grahaN karake bArambAr kShaN-kShaNamen usakA abhyAs (kare). main gnAyak hUn. jitanA gnAnasvarUp, gnAyakasvarUp utanA main hUn, vibhAv main nahIn hUn. bArambAr nirantar isakA abhyAs kare aur usakA ugra abhyAs kare to der nahIn lagatI. apanA svabhAv hai. kShaNamen ho jAtA hai. puruShArthakI ugratA hove to utkRuShTa chha mahine lagate hain, der nahIn lagatI hai. parantu apane puruShArthakI mandatA hai. dukh-dukh kare, lekin sukh svabhAv kyA hai? usako grahaN kare, usamen pratIt dRuDh kare, bArambAr usakI pariNati pragaT kare to hove.

dukh lage to bhI apanA svabhAv grahaN karanA chAhiye. svabhAv grahaN kare to vibhAv- se chhUT jAtA hai. svabhAvako grahaN kare binA dukh-dukh kare to bhI nahIn chhUT sakatA hai. svabhAvako grahaN kare to chhUT jAtA hai. to bhedagnAn ho jAtA hai. svabhAvako grahaN karanA chAhiye, apane astitvako grahaN karanA chAhiye. main yahI hUn aur yah main nahIn hUn, aise bArambAr usako grahaN karanekA abhyAs kare to hove.

mumukShu- shraddhAguN to nirvikalpa hai...

samAdhAna- shraddhA nirvikalpa hai, parantu pahale vichAr-se nirNay karanA chAhiye. pahale to aisA vichAr AtA hai, pahale pratIt dRuDh nahIn hove to vichAr karanA chAhiye. vichAr-se apanA svabhAv pahachAnanA chAhiye ki gnAnalakShaN, asAdhAraN gnAn lakShaN hai. akhaNDa dravyako pIchhAnanA chAhiye. gnAn-se vichAr kare. pratIt to dRuDh (bAdamen hotI hai). pahale vichAr AtA hai. tattvakA vichAra. bArambAr main bhinna hUn, yah main nahIn hUn. svabhAvako bhItar-se usakA lakShaN pIchhAnakarake nakkI karanA chAhiye.

shraddhA bhale nirvikalpa ho, gnAn kAm karatA hai. gnAnamen vichAr (karake), nakkI karake shraddhAko dRuDh karanA chAhiye. muktikA mArga samyagdarshan-se pragaT hotA hai. parantu jab pahale samyagdarshan nahIn hove tab vichAr, yathArtha gnAn karanA chAhiye. gnAn bIchamen AtA hai. pratItako dRuDh karanA.

samAdhAna- ... gurudevako sab shobhA de. vahAn sTejamen baiThanA, karanA Adi... gurudevakI chhatrachhAyAmen apane to bol lete hain.

mumukShu- ham to gurudevakI AgnAkA pAlan karate hain. gurudev kahakar gaye hain...

samAdhAna- chitra Adi sab thA na, isaliye vahAn manamen aisI bhAvanAkA ghoTanA hotA thA ki ye sab hai, gurudev padhAre. aisI bhAvanA (hotI thI). bas, aise hI ghoTan chalatA thA ki gurudev padhAre to achchhA. prAta kAlamen svapnamen aisA AyA ki gurudev Upar-se padhAr rahe hain. aisA kahA, padhAro gurudeva. gurudev devake rUpamen the. devake vastra

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pahane the. devake rUpamen the. aise pahachAnamen Aye ki ye gurudev hain. gurudev devake rUpamen hI the.

gurudevane kahA ki aisA kuchh nahIn rakhanA, main yahIn hUn. devamen virAjatA hUn, (lekin) main yahIn hUn, aisA rakhanA. aisA gurudevane kahA. aisA hAth karake kahA. aisA huA ki ye sab kaise (samAdhAn kare)? gurudevane javAb nahIn diyA. gurudevane do-tIn bAr kahA ki main yahIn hUn, aisA hI mAnanA. main yahIn hUn, aisA gurudevane kahA.

... svapna vaishAkh shukla-2kA thA. bAdamenn kahA. gurudevane kuchh javAb nahIn diyA, sun liyA. gurudevane kahA, manamen aisA nahIn rakhanA, main yahIn hUn. merA astitva hai, aisA hI mAnanA. hAth aise karake kahA. gurudev devake rUpamen the. hUbahU devake rUpamen. devake vastra, mugaT sab devake rUpamen thA.

mumukShu- to bhI pahachAn liyA ki ye gurudev hI hain.

samAdhAna- hAn, guredav hI hain, dev nahIn hai. main yahIn hUn, aisA mAnanA. main kadAchit mAnUn, lekin aise kaise mAn len? aisA vichAr to Aye. ye sab kaise (mAne)? ye bechAre kaise mAne? gurudev kuchh bole nahIn. parantu gurudevakA atishay prasar gayA. us vakta sabako aisA ho gayA. nahIn to har sAl sabake hRudayamen dukh hotA thA. us vakta ekadam ullAs-se sab karate the.

gurudevane kahA, aisA manamen nahIn rakhanA. us vakta svapnamen bahut pramod thA. us ekadam tAjA thA na. main yahIn hUn. gurudevakI AgnA huyI, phir kuchh...

gurudev shAshvat rahe, mahApuruSh... alag thI. main to unakA shiShya hUn. unhonne jo mArgakA prakAsh kiyA, vah kahanekA hai. sAkShAt gurudev hI lage, devake rUpamen. aisA kuchh nahIn rakhanA. main yahIn hUn, aisA mAnanA. kaise padhAre? kaise padhAre? gurudev padhAro, padhAro aisA manamen hotA thA. pUrI rAt andar aisI bhAvanA rahA karatI thI, gurudev padhAro, padhAro. phir prAtakAlamen gurudev Upar-se devake rUpamen padhAre hon, aisA (svapna AyA). gurudev padhAre.