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mumukShu- shUnya kyA? ek ank to huA hI nahIn hai. phir Uparake shUnya kyA hai? sab shUnya vyartha hain. binA ekake sab shUnya vyartha hai, usakA artha kyA?

samAdhAna- mUl ek to samyagdarshan hai. vah yadi ho to hI yathArtha hai. shUnya arthAt mAtra shUnya hI hue. mUl jo vastu hai usakI pahachAn nahIn kI aur akele shubhabhAv kiye, puNyabandha huA. AtmAkA svabhAv to pahachAnAch nahIn. isaliye jo antaramen AtmAkI prApti honI chAhiye vah to hotI nahIn. mAtra shUnya-Uparake shubhabhAvarUp shUnya kiye. binA ekake shUnya. binA ekake shUnya kiye to use ek nahIn kahate, vah to mAtra shUnya hai. vah ginatImen nahIn AtA.

ek ho to usake Upar shUnya lagAo to ginatImen AtA hai. bAkI akele shUnya ginatImen nahIn Ate. vaise shubhabhAv kiye, puNyabandha (huA), devalok huA. parantu AtmAkI pahachAn, jo svAnubhUti honI chAhiye, vah AtmA pragaT nahIn huA tabatak sab shUnya hain. AtmA pragaT ho to hI vah yathArtha hai aur to hI mukti hotI hai. AtmAkI pahachAn binA kahIn mukti nahIn hotI.

samyagdarshan hotA hai to Anshik mukti hotI hai. phir Age baDhe to andar chAritra- lInatA baDhatI jAya. bAhar-se chAritra Aye aisA nahIn, antaramen lInatA baDhatI jAy to vItarAg dashA aur kevalagnAn pragaT hotA hai. bAhar-se tyAg kiyA, vairAgya kiyA, parantu AtmAko pahachAnA nahIn. AtmAko pahachAne binA sab binA ek ankake shUnya jaisA hai. mUlako pahachAnA nahIn. vRukShakI DAlI, patte sab ikaTThA kiyA, parantu mUl jo hai, us mUlamen pAnI nahIn DAlA. to vRukSha panapatA nahIn.

mUl jo hai, mUl chaitanya svabhAv-chaitanya hai use pahachAnakar usamen gnAn-vairAgya pragaT ho to hI AtmAmen-se gnAn evan chAritra sab AtmAmen-se pragaT hote hain. bAhar-se pragaT nahIn hotA. ata mUlako pahachAne binA pAnI pilAnA, usamen vRukSha panapatA nahIn. sab Uparake DAlI-patte hI hain. DAlI-patteko pAnI pIlAne-se vRukSha nahIn hotA, mUlako pIlAne- se hotA hai. bIj jo boyA, bIjako pAnI pIlAne-se hotA hai. parantu bAhar Upar- se pAnI pIlAye, sirpha pAnI pIlAtA rahe to kahIn vRukSha panapatA nahIn. andar bhedagnAn

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kare to AtmA gnAnasvabhAv (hai).

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- hAn. AnandAdi sab AtmAmen-se pragaT hotA hai. samyagdarshan ho isaliye AtmAkI svAnubhUti (hotI hai). AtmAkA gnAn, AtmAkA Ananda, AtmAke ananta guNakA vedan jisamen hotA hai. sukh, jo ananta sukh (pragaT hotA hai), jagatake koI padArthamen sukh nahIn hai, aisA anupam sukh AtmAmen hai. bAharakA sukh usane kalpitarUp- se mAnA hai. vah to AkulatA-se bhare hain. antarakA jo AtmAkA sukh vah koI anupam hai. use koI upamA lAgU nahIn paDatA. aisA anupam sukh aur Ananda AtmAmen-se pragaT hotA hai, vah samyagdarshanamen pragaT hotA hai. vah bAhar-se nahIn AtA.

mumukShu- bhagavAn-bhagavAn kahakar sambodhan karate the. to bhagavAn banane-se pahale bhagavAn kahakar kyon sambodhan karate honge?

samAdhAna- bhagavAnasvarUp hI AtmA hai. AtmA anAdiananta svabhAv-shakti apekShA- se bhagavAn hI hai. pragaT hotA hai arthAt usakI paryAy pragaT hotI hai. bAkI vastu apekShA-se AtmA bhagavAn hI hai. bhagavAnakA svabhAv hai. usakI shaktikA nAsh nahIn huA hai. ananta kAl gayA to bhI usamen ananta shaktiyAn, gnAnAdi ananta guN usamen bhare hain, usakA nAsh nahIn huA hai. isaliye AtmA bhagavAn hai, use tU pahachAna. tU svayam shakti apekShA-se bhagavAn hI hai, aisA gurudev kahate the.

us bhagavAnako tU bhUl gayA hai, use tU pahachAna. usamen tU jA, usamen lInatA kar, usakI shraddhA kar-pratIt kar, gnAn kar to vah pragaT hogA, aisA kahate the. vah pragah hotA hai, vah pragaT bhagavAn hotA hai. bAkI shakti apekShA-se tU bhagavAn hI hai.

mumukShu- binA paDhe, anapaDh AdamIko bhI samyagdarshan ho sakatA hai?

samAdhAna- usamen kahIn bAharakI paDhAIkI AvashyakatA nahIn hai yA jyAdA jAne yA jyAdA shAstronkA abhyAs kare yA use jyAdA paDhAI ho to ho, aisA kuchh nahIn hai. mUl AtmAkA svabhAv pahachAne ki main gnAnasvabhAv gnAyak hUn aur ye sab mujh- se bhinna hai. aisA bhedagnAn karake AtmAko pahachAne, mUl prayojanabhUt tattvako pahachAne to usamen paDhAI koI AvashyakatA nahIn hai.

mUl vastu svabhAvako antaramen-se pahachAnanA chAhiye. usakI ruchi, usakI mahimA, usakI lagan antaramen lage aur vibhAvamen kahIn chain paDe nahIn, bAharamen (chain) paDe nahIn. aisI laganI aur mahimA yadi AtmAmen lage to apane svabhAvako pahachAnakar antaramen jAy to use bAhya paDhAIkI AvashyakatA nahIn hai.

shivabhUti muni kuchh nahIn jAnate the. gurune kahA, mAruSh aur mAtuSha. to shabda bhUl

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gaye ki gurune kyA kahA thA? aurat dAl do rahI thI. mere gurune ye kahA thA, chhilakA alag aur dAl alaga. aise mAsatuSh-ye chhilakA bhinna aur andar (dAl bhinna hai).

aise AtmA bhinna hai aur ye vibhAv jo rAgAdi hain, vah sab chhilake hain. usase main bhinna hUn. aisA gurune kahA thA. is prakAr Ashay grahaN kar liyA. gurune jo shabda kahe the vah bhI vismRut ho gaye. parantu Ashay grahaN kiyA ki mere gurune bhedagnAn karaneko kahA thA. rAg bhinna aur AtmA bhinna. isaprakAr antaramen main AtmA bhinna hUn aur ye vibhAv bhinna hai, sab bhinna hai. aisA karake antaramen bhedagnAn karake antaramen samyagdarshanakI prApti kar lIn ho gaye, svAnubhUti pragaT kI. aur antaramen itane lIn ho gaye ki usImen lIn hone-se kevalagnAn pragaT kar liyA. usamen paDhAIkI AvashyakatA nahIn hai. prayojanabhUt tattvako pahachAne usamen paDhAIkI AvashyakatA nahIn hai.

bhagavAnakA dravya, bhagavAnake guNa. bhagavAnake dravya-guN-paryAy aur mere dravya-guN- paryAya. jaise bhagavAnake dravya-guN-paryAy hain, vaise hI mere hain. is prakAr bhagavAnako pahachAne, vah svayamko pahachAne. aur svayamko pahachAne vah bhagavAnako pahachAnatA hai. mUl prayojanabhUt tattvako pahachAne to usamen sab A jAtA hai. ekako pahachAnane-se sab gnAt ho jAtA hai. bAharakA sab jAnane jAy aur ekako nahIn jAnatA hai to kuchh nahIn jAnA. ek AtmAko pahachAne to usamen sab gnAt ho jAtA hai.

mumukShu- shubhakA vishvAs chhoD, mAne kyA? shubhakA vishvAs chhoDanA usakA artha kyA?

samAdhAna- shubhamen-se mujhe dharma hogA. shubhamen-se mujhe kuchh lAbh hogA, aisI jo mAnyatA hai, vah vishvAs chhoD de. shubh-se dharma nahIn hotA, shubh bIchamen AtA hai. parantu shuddhAtmA jo AtmA hai usase dharma hotA hai. dharma apane svabhAvamen rahA hai, vibhAvamen dharma nahIn hai. dharma svabhAvamen-se (pragaT hotA hai). jo vastu hai, usamen-se dharma pragaT hotA hai. shubhamen-se dharma pragaT nahIn hotA, isaliye usakA vishvAs chhoD de. bIchamen shubhabhAvanA AtI hai.

antar AtmAkI jahAn ruchi pragaT ho, use dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti, mahimA AtI hai. jinendra dev par bhakti, guru par bhakti, gurudevane aisA mArga batAyA, gurudev par bhakti, shAstra par bhakti AtI hai. shubhabhAvanA AtI hai. parantu merA svabhAv shuddhAtmA, us shuddhAtmAkA svabhAv aur ye shubhabhAv donoen bhinna-bhinna vastu hai. aisI use shraddhA aur ruchi honI chAhiye. usakA vishvAs, usamen sarvasvatA nahIn mAnatA. parantu vah bIchamen AtA hai. dev- guru-shAstrakI bhakti, mahimA bIchamen Aye binA nahIn rahatI.

samyagdarshan ho to bhI dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA aur bhakti hotI hai. aur ruchivAnako

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bhI dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA hotI hai. munirAj hote hain, chhaThaven-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate hain. antarmuhUrtamen svAnubhUti aur antarmuhUrtamen bAhar (Ate hain), aisI dashA hotI hai. to bhI unhen shubhabhAvanA (AtI hai). abhI nyUnatA hai to dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA munirAjako bhI hotI hai. parantu us par ve vishvAs nahIn karate hain ki isamen dharma hotA hai. dharma mere svabhAvamen, svAnubhUtimen dharma rahA hai, svabhAvamen dharma rahA hai. parantu shubhabhAv to... dev-guru-shAstra to sAth hI rahate hain. dev-guru-shAstrakI bhAvanA use sAthamen rahatI hai, parantu puruShArtha svayam-se karatA hai.

munirAj kahate hain, main AtmAmen jA rahA hUn. main dIkShA letA hUn. usamen sab padhAranA. panch parameShThI bhagavanton main Ap sabako nimantraN detA hUn. main puruShArtha karun usamen mere sAth rahanA. aisI shubhabhAvanA AtI hai. parantu vItarAg dashAkI pariNati-se mujhe dharma hotA hai, aisI mAnyatA hai. parantu bhAvanA aisI AtI hai. unakI lInatA, unakI shraddhAkI pariNati to visheSh hai, munirAjakI. samyagdarshan hai aur svAnubhUtikI dashA kShaN-kShaNamen antarmuhUrtamen lIn hote hain aur antarmuhUrtamen bAhar Ate hain. to bhI shubhabhAvanA aisI hotI hai.

mumukShu- sarvagnakI sthApanA kI hai. jainakulamen janma liyA isaliye sarvako mAne binA bhI nahIn chalatA hai. parantu sarvagnako kaise biThAnA, vahI khyAlamen nahIn AtA hai. Apane to dekhe hain, to kuchh..?

samAdhAna- svayamko nakkI karanA chAhiye. sarvagna to jagatamen hote hain. sarvagna svabhAv AtmAkA hai. pUrNa dashA jise pragaT ho, use sarvagna-pUrNa gnAn pragaT hue binA nahIn rahatA. pUrNa sAdhanA jo kare, gnAnasvabhAvI AtmA hai. vah gnAn aisA hai ki jo anantako jAne. gnAnamen kahIn apUrNatA nahIn hotI ki itanA hI jAne aur itanA na jAne, aisA to nahIn hotA.

yah gnAyak svabhAv AtmA pUrNatA-se bharA hai. jise pUrNa sAdhanA pragaT huyI aur pUrNa kRutakRutya dashA ho, usakI gnAnadashA pUrNa ho jAtI hai, usamen koI alpatA nahIn rahatI. ek samayamen lokAlokako jAne, aisI sAdhanA karate-karate aisI vItarAg dashA pragaT ho, usamen pUrNa dashA pragaT hotI hai ki jo sarvagnatA (hai). ek samayamen lokAlokako jAnate hain. svayamko jAnate hain aur anyako. ananta dravyako, ananta AtmAko, ananta pudagalako, unakA bhUt-vartamAn-bhaviShya sabako ek samayamen sabako jAne, aisA hI gnAnakA koI apUrva achintya sAmarthya hai.

aisI sarvagnatA jagatamen hotI hai aur aisA sarvagna svabhAv jise pragaT huA hai, aise mahAvideh kShetramen tIrthankar bhagavant, kevalI bhagavAn vicharate hain. abhI is panchakAlamen sarvagnatA dekhanemen nahIn AtI. bAkI mahAvideh kShetramen sAkShAt tIrthankar bhagavAn, sImandhar bhagavAn

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Adi bIs bhagavAn aur kevalI bhagavant sarvagnapane vicharate hain. pUrNa gnAn jise pragaT hotA hai. munidashAmen jo pUrNa sAdhanA karate hain, unhen kevalagnAn pragaT hue binA nahIn rahatA. jisakI sAdhanA pUrNa hotI hai, usakI gnAnadashA bhI pUrNa ho jAtI hai.

AtmA jab vItarAg hotA hai, tab pUrNa svabhAv pragaT ho jAtA hai. ananta-ananta, jise koI maryAdA yA sImA nahIn hotI. aisA amaryAdit gnAn AtmAmen-se (pragaT hotA hai) ki jo ek samayamen sab jAn sakatA hai. svayamko jAnatA hai aur dUsaronko bhI jAnatA hai.

mumukShu- samyagdarshan pragaT hone pUrva to sarvagnako oghe oghe mAnane jaisA lagatA hai.

samAdhAna- oghe oghe arthAt vichAr-se jAn sakatA hai. samyagdarshanamen to vah yathArtha pratIt karatA hai ki main sarvagna svabhAvI AtmA hI hUn aur pUrNa svabhAv mere AtmAkA hai aur vah pragaT ho sakatA hai.

usake pahale ruchivAlA bhI vichAr karake samajh sakatA hai. oghe oghe nahIn. jaise AtmA koI apUrva vastu hai. gurudevane aisA mArga batAyA. vichAr-se aisA nakkI karatA hai ki Atma svabhAv koI alag hai, samyagdarshan koI alag vastu hai, aise kevalagnAnako bhI vah vichAr-se nakkI kar sakatA hai. oghe oghe nahIn, vichArase, yuktise, dalIlase nakkI kar sakatA hai ki sarvagnatA jagatamen hai.

mumukShu- vichAr karane par aisA baiTh sakatA hai?

samAdhAna- hAn, baiTh sakatA hai. shAstramen dRuShTAnta AtA hai ki sarvagna nahIn hai, aisA tU (kis AdhAr-se kahatA hai)? nahIn hai, aisA kaise nakkI kiyA? tujhe koI sarvagnatA hai? sarvagna hai jagatamen.

sarvagna svabhAv AtmAkA hai. jo gnAnasvabhAvI AtmA hai, vah pUrNako kyon na jAne? jisakA svabhAv hI jAnanekA hai, usamen nahIn jAnanA AtI hI nahIn. jo jAnanekA svabhAvavAn hai, vah pUrNa ArAdhanA kare to pUrNa jAnatA hai. usamen nahIn jAnatA hai, aisA AtA hI nahIn. jo jAne vah pUrNa jAnatA hai. use sImA, maryAdA hotI nahIn. sImA nahIn hotI, svabhAv amaryAdi hai. jisakA jo svabhAv ho, vah svabhAv amaryAdit hotA hai.

mumukShu- ... sarvagnakI pratIt ho aisA hai?

samAdhAna- darshan karane-se pratIt ho vah alag bAt hai. abhI sarvagnake darshan, sAkShAt darshan honA panchakAlamen mushkil hai. jinendra bhagavAnakI pratimAkA darshan hai. sAkShAt darshan, vah to ek pratItakA kAraN bane. parantu vah nahIn ho us samay vichAr, ruchise, vichArase nakkI kar sakatA hai. bhagavAnake darshan, vah to ek pratItakA kAraN banatA hai.

vah puruShArtha kare to bhagavAnakA darshan to koI apUrva bAt hai. sAkShAt sarvagnadev

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bhagavAnake darshan ho (apUrva hai). jo vItarAg ho gaye hain. jo jagat-se bhinna, jinakI gnAnadashA pragaT ho gayI. vItarAg dashA, jinakI mudrA alag ho jAy, jisakI .. alag ho jAy, jisakI vANI alag ho jAy, jo jagat-se alag hI hain. unake darshan to koI apUrva vastu hai. vah to pratItakA kAraN banatA hai. vItarAg dashA, jo antar AtmAmen pariNamatI hai, jinhen bAhar dekhanekA kuchh nahIn hai. jinakI mudrA alag, jinakI vANI abhed OM dhvani nikalatI hai. jinakI chAl alag ho jAtI hai. sabakuchh alaga. bhagavAn jagat-se nyAre ho jAte hain.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- rAg ho isaliye vichAr Aye. jo bananA hotA hai, vahAn koI upAy nahIn hai. jo bananA hotA hai vah banatA hai. aisA ho ki aisA kiyA hotA to? ... parantu AyuShya us prakAr pUrNa honevAlA thA. usamen kisIkA upAy kuchh kAm nahIn AtA. koI chAhe jo kare. AyuShya ho to kisI bhI prakAr-se bach jAtA hai aur yadi na ho to kisIkI hoshiyArI kahIn kAm nahIn AtI.

mumukShu- yahAn Akar bahut samAdhAn ho gayA.

samAdhAna- (samAdhAn) kiye binA chhUTakArA nahIn hai. gurudevane kahA hai vahI mArga grahaN karanA. gurudevane jo upadesh diyA hai, vahI grahaN karane jaisA hai. gurudevane jo upadeshakI jamAvaT kI hai, vah yAd karane jaisA hai.

samAdhAna- ... ye jainadharma, jinendra bhagavAnake .... isase to rAjapadavI nahIn hotI to achchhA thA. .... bhagavAnakA stotra AtA hai (usamen AtA hai ki) jainadharmake binA main jainadharma vihIn... jainadharma vihIn merA jIvan nahIn hotA. dharma to mere hRudayamen ho. dharma binAkA jIvan to ... jinendra dev, guru aur shAstrakI bhakti, bhagavAnake utsav, guruke utsav, shAstrakA svAdhyAy, vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai. aur andar AtmA, AtmAkA raTan, adhyAtmakI bAt, AtmAkI bAten, aisI apUrva bAt, usakA smaraNa. vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai. sachchA to vah hai.

bAkI sab bane, parantu vah sab bhUlane jaisA hai. achAnak bane isaliye lage, rAg ho utanA, parantu bhUlane jaisA hai. rAg ho isaliye lage. bhAIko, bahanako sabako lage, parantu badalane jaisA hai. shAnti rakhane jaisA hai.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- .. use koI parichay nahIn hai, isaliye andar samAdhAn karanekI shakti nahIn hotI. gurukA Ashray aur devakA Ashray to baDA Ashray hai. ... isaliye andar- se samAdhAn karanekA bal nahIn AyA. ... kahAn jAnA? vahAn kahIn sukh paDA hai?

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vah gati hI hai. kaun-sI gati milegI aur kahAn jAnA hai? vahAn sukh thoDA hI hai. .. shraddhA ho to andar samAdhAn rahe. AtmA jahAn bhI jAy, vahAn AtmA to shAshvat hI hai. karma jo hai, vah kahIn bhI sAthamen hI AnevAlA hai. dUsare bhavamen jAy isaliye yahAn jo karmakA uday AyA vah uday yahAn pUrA ho jAyagA? karmakA uday to sAthamen hI rahanevAlA hai. isaliye karmakA uday yahAn bhoganA yA dUsare bhavamen bhoganA, sab samAn hai. ata yahAn shAnti-se bhog lenA.

kahate hain na? bandha samay jIv chetIye, uday samay shA uchAT? jis samay tere pariNAmamen bandha hotA hai, us vakta tU vichAr karanA ki yah pariNAm mujhe na ho. mujhe dev-guru-shAstrake pariNAm ho. us vakta tU vichAr karanA. parantu jab karmakA uday AtA hai, jab bAharamen usakA sanyog Ave, pheraphAr ho pratikUlatAkA, tab tU badal nahIn sakatA. tab to shAnti aur samAdhAnake alAvA koI upAy nahIn hai. ab-se mujhe aise pariNAm na ho usakA dhyAn rakha. bAkI uday Aneke bAd hAthamen kuchh nahIn rahatA.

aisA jIvan honA chAhiye ki dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti evan ArAdhanA, AtmAkI ArAdhanA kaise ho, usake sAtha. AtmAkI ArAdhanA. gurudevane, shAstramen jo kahA, use ArAdhanA kahate hain. aisA jIvan honA chAhiye. is panchamakAlamen aise guru mile, aisA mArga mile, aisA samajhanA (mile), AtmAkI bAt koI samajhatA nahIn thA, AtmAkI bAt gurudevane samajhAyI. gurudevane bhagavAnakI pahachAn karavAyI. bhagavAnakA svarUp vItarAg hotA hai Adi sab gurudevane (samajhayA). puNyake kAraN aisA yog milA. usamen svayamko apanI Atma ArAdhanA karane jaisI hai.