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samAdhAna- ... vah bhI apUrva nahIn hai. vah sab anAdi kAlamen parichayamen AyA, anubhavamen AyA. AtmAkA svabhAv parichayamen, anubhavamen AyA nahIn. gurudevakI vANImen vah bAt AtI thI. vah koI apUrva vastu hai. jagat-se koI .. apUrva (hai). gnAyakamen ananta shaktiyAn bharI hai, ananta Ananda bharA hai. ananta dhamA-se AtmA bharA hI hai. koI apUrva tattva hai. usakI koI upamA jagatamen nahIn hai. vah to anupam hai.

Atmatattva to koI apUrva hai. usakI gnAyakatA ananta kAl jAne aur ananta lokAlokako jAne to bhI usakA gnAnasvabhAv khatma nahIn hotA. lokAlokako ek samayake andar ek aNureNuvat jAn letA hai to usamen koI vajan nahIn ho jAtA. jaisA gnAyakakA svabhAv koI jAnanekA apUrva hai, aisA AnandakA svabhAv koI apUrva hai. ananta kAl tak jAne to usamen-se kam nahIn hotA. usamen ananta shakti hai. ek samayamen ananta dravya, ananta kShetra, ananta kAl, ananta bhAv apaneko, parako, sabake ananta bhAvonko sabako ek samayamen svarUpamen jab lIn hotA hai, kevalagnAn hotA hai to ek samayamen jAn letA hai. usakI gnAyakakI shakti koI apUrva, apUrva anupam hai.

ek samayamen lokAlokake ananta dravya, ananta pudagal, chaitanya, dharmAsti, adharmAsti sabake ananta dharma, usakA dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAv, apanA dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAv sabako ek samayamen jAn letA hai. aisI koI shakti apUrva hai. ananta shakti-se gnAyak svabhAv ...

gnAyakako pahachAnanA. vah parako jAnatA hai isaliye apUrva nahIn, usakI shakti hI aisI apUrva hai. amaryAdit, amAp shakti hai. gnAyakakI mahimA laganI chAhiye, anupamatA laganI chAhiye. usakA Ananda svabhAvakA jagatamen koI mel nahIn hai. usakI upamA nahIn hai. aisA koI apUrva Ananda hai ki jisakI jagatamen tulanA nahIn (ho sakatI). aisA anupam Ananda, anupam gnAn, ananta dharma (hain). gnAyakatattva apUrva hai.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- aise shubhabhAv to bIchamen AtA hai. svarUpamen lIn ho jAnA, muni svAnubhUtimen bArambAr lIn hoete hain. bIchamen shubhabhAvamen ... hotA hai, vah apavAd mArga hai.

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mumukShu- prApti utsarga mArga-se hI hai.

samAdhAna- prApti to utsarga mArga-se hotI hai, to bhI bIchamen AtA hai. utsarga- apavAdakI maitrI hotI hai. jabatak kevalagnAn nahIn hotA tabatak shubhabhAv bIchamen ... aisA AtA hai. shubhabhAv-se mukti nahIn hotI, mukti to utsarga svAnubhUti-se hotI hai. mukti isase hotI hai, kevalagnAn isase hotA hai. parantu vah bIchamen AtA hai. jabatak utsargarUp pariNaman nahIn hotA, tabatak bIchamen apavAd hotA hai. parantu apavAd apaneko lAbh karatA hai, aisI shraddhA nahIn honI chAhiye. bIchamen utsarga aur apavAd donon sAthamen hote hain. shubhabhAv bIchamen AtA hai. prApti to shuddhaupayog-se hotI hai. yathArtharUp-se to shuddhaupayog-se posanA hotA hai. vyavahAr-se shubhabhAv-se posanA hotA hai.

mumukShu- dhyAye banAyA ho to hamako to..

samAdhAna- dhyey shuddhAtmAkA rakhanA chAhiye aur bIchamen shubhabhAv AtA hai. ashubhamen nahIn jAnA. jabatak tIsarI bhUmikA shuddhAtmAkI prApta nahIn hotI tabatak shubhabhAv bIchamen AtA hai. vah bhUmikA rahatI hai. vyavahAr-se usakA posanA kahanemen AtA hai. vAstavik posanA to shuddhAtmA... vyavahAr-se posanA ... vyavahAr bIchamen AtA hai.

bArambAr mujhe gnAyakakI prApti hove, mujhe aisI svAnubhUti hove. aisA abhyAs bArambAr, gaharI lagan, bArambAr mujhe gnAyakatattva kaise prApta ho, aisI bhAvanA rahe. dev-guru-shAstrakA sAnnidhyakA shubhabhAv, bIchamen shuddhAtmAkI bhAvanA rahe, usake sanskAr rahe. vah sanskAr sAthamen Ate hain. gahare sanskAr (DAle), gnAyakakA abhyAs kare vah sanskAr rahate hain. bIchamen jo shubhabhAv hotA hai, dev-guru-shAstrake, usase jo puNyabandha hotA hai to usake yogya bAharamen sAdhan mil jAte hain-dev-guru-shAstra. bhItaramen gnAyakakA sanskAr DAlane chAhiye. shubhabhAv bandhatA hai, usase bAharamen sAdhan milatA hai aur bhItaramen shuddhAtmAkA sanskAra.

mumukShu- kaisA puruShArtha (hotA hai)?

samAdhAna- sabakA ek hI upAy hai-shuddhAtmAko pahachAnanA.

mumukShu- pahachAnanA kaun-se puruShArtha-se? kaise?

samAdhAna- yah puruShArtha-svayamko shuddhAtmAkI laganI lage. jo kArya karaneke pIchhe lage to hotA hai. vyavahAramen koI kArya karanA ho to usake pIchhe lagatA hai. to shuddhAtmAkA svabhAv pahichAnaneke liye svayam bAharamen rukatA hai, andaramen ... mujhe shuddhAtmA kaise prApta ho? usakI lagan, usake pIchhe lage. usakA svabhAv pahachAnaneke liye bArambAr-bArambAr, bArambAr-bArambAr (prayatna kare). chhUT jAy to bhI bArambAr-bArambAr usake liye hI prayatna karanA chAhiye. ek hI upAy hai-shuddhAtmAko pahichAnanA, us par dRuShTi karanI, usakA gnAn karanA, us or pariNati karanI. upAy ek hI hai.

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mumukShu- .. upayog AtmAkI taraph pahunchakar ekAgra nahIn ho sakatA.

samAdhAna- ruchi hove tab hove na. ruchi bAhar hove to upayog kahAn-se lagegA? ruchi sva taraph jAy to upayog lage. ruchi badal denI. AtmA hI prApta ho, AtmA hI prApta ho, aisI ruchi honI chAhiye.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! ham svAdhyAy karate hain, vAnchan-vichAr karate hain, manthan karate hain, phir bhI AtmAnubhUti hotI nahIn hai. to hamen aisA koI upAy batAo ki jisase ham AtmAnubhUti karake apanA ... kar le.

samAdhAna- vichAr, vAnchan sab hoeve to bhI pariNati bhItaramen palaTanI chAhiye na. puruShArtha karake pariNati palaTanI. pariNatiko palaTAnA chAhiye. vichAr, vAnchan (kare). main kaun hUn? yah vibhAv hai. main chaitanyatattva hUn. merA svabhAv kyA hai? usako lakShaN- se pahachAnanA chAhiye. lakShaN-se pIchhAne binA, bhItaramen-se pIchhAn kiye binA vah hotA nahIn. bAhar-se vichAr, vAnchan sab hotA hai to bhI lakShya to mujhe shuddhAtmA kaise pragaT ho, aisA dhyey honA chAhiye. aisA puruShArtha honA chAhiye. bArambAr puruShArtha karanA chAhiye. main chaitanya hUn, gnAyak hUn. paradravyakA kartA hotA hai, vibhAvakI kartAbuddhi TUTakar gnAyak- gnAtAkI pariNati honI chAhiye. pariNati to apaneko karanI hai, vah koI kar nahIn detA. anAdi kAl-se paribhramaN huA, ekatvabuddhi-se huA hai. aur chaitanyako vibhakta- main usase vibhakta-bhinna hUn, aisA bhinnatAkA gnAn, bhinnatAkI pariNati honI chAhiye. to ho sakatA hai.

mumukShu- par-se bhinna AtmAkI ruchi ..

samAdhAna- ruchi to apaneko karanI paDatI hai. ruchi kauI nahIn kar detA hai. paramen ruchi rahatI hai, paramen sarvasva mAn letA hai, sabakuchh paramen hai. aisI ruchi rahatI hai. mere AtmAmen sarvasva hai. paramen nahIn hai. sabakuchh gnAn, Ananda sab mere AtmAmen hai, bAharamen nahIn hai. bhItaramen aisI pratIt honI chAhiye to pariNati palaTatI hai. ruchi to apaneko karanI paDatI hai.

bAharamen sukh nahIn hai. bAharamen AkulatA-AkulatA hai. vibhAvamen AkulatA hai. paradravyamen dRuShTi karanemen sab AkulatA hai. nirAkul svabhAv aur Ananda svabhAv merA hai. to ruchi palaTatI hai.

mumukShu- gurudevashrIke pravachanamen AyA hai, samayasAr 17-18 gAthAmen, ki gnAnakA svabhAv svaparaprakAshak hone-se AbAlagopAlako sabako bhagavAn AtmA jAnanemen AtA hai. to agnAnIko kaise svaparaprakAshak svabhAv hai, vah khyAlamen nahIn AyA?

samAdhAna- agnAnIko bhI svaparaprakAshak svabhAv kahIn nAsh nahIn hotA hai. AtmAkA

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svabhAv svaparaprakAshak hai. apaneko bhI jAnatA hai, parako bhI jAnatA hai. parantu AbAlagopAl AtmAkA asAdhAraN lakShaN hai. gnAnasvabhAv hai vah asAdhAraN hai. gnAnasvabhAv... sabako yathArtha gnAn nahIn hai, parantu us gnAnasvabhAvakA nAsh nahIn huA hai. ye sab jAnanevAlA jo gnAn hai, vah gnAn gnAnarUp (rahA hai). anubhUti hai, vah aisI svAnubhUti nahIn hai, usakA vedan nahIn hai. to bhI gnAn gnAnarUp rahatA hai, gnAn gnAnarUp pariNaman karatA hai. vah yathArtha nahIn. parantu gnAnakA nAsh nahIn huA. aise gnAyak svabhAvakA grahaN sab AbAlagopAl kar sakate hain.

gnAnasvabhAvakA nAsh nahIn huA hai. gnAnasvabhAv to jaisA hai vaisA hI hai. parantu apaneko bhrAntike kAraN par taraph dRuShTi karatA hai, par taraph jAtA hai, parakA gnAn karatA hai, par taraph AcharaN karatA hai, sab par taraph karatA hai. svasanmukh hotA nahIn hai isaliye khyAlamen nahIn AtA hai. gnAn gnAnarUp rahatA hai. gnAn kahIn jaD nahIn ho jAtA hai. gnAn gnAnarUp rahatA hai.

anAdi kAl huA to bhI gnAn gnAn hI hai. gnAn, chetan chetan hI hai, jaD nahIn huA. jo vibhAv hotA hai usamen dekhanA chAhiye ki isamen gnAnasvabhAv kyA hai? ruchi kare, pratIt kare to sab AbAlagopAl jAn sakate hain. gnAnasvabhAv gnAnasvabhAv hI hai, usakA agnAn nahIn huA.

mumukShu- gurudev to aim pharamAte the ki bhagavAn AtmA sabako jAnanemen AtA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, bhagavAn AtmA sabako jAnanemen AtA hai. jo us taraph dRuShTi kare to jAnanemen AtA hai. bhagavAnasvarUp AtmA, shaktirUp bhagavAn AtmA hai. sabakuchh jAn sakatA hai. aisA nahIn hai ki yah jAn sakatA hai aur yah nahIn jAn sakatA hai. jo AtmA taraph ruchi kare vah sab jAn sakate hain. gnAn gnAnarUp hai. gnAn jaD nahIn huA hai. sab jAn sakate hain, bhagavAn AtmAko sab jAn sakate hain. jo puruShArtha kare vah jAn sakatA hai. nahIn kare to nahIn jAn sakatA hai.

... lAl-pIle phUl-se vah lAl-pIlA ho nahIn jAtA hai. sphaTik to sphaTik hI hai. vaise gnAyak gnAyak hI hai. parantu par taraph upayog, dRuShTi sab par taraph hai. isaliye usako khyAlamen nahIn AtA hai. apanI taraph yadi dRuShTi kare to jAn sakatA hai. gnAn gnAnarUp hI hai. vah jaD nahIn huA hai. AbAlagopAl sabako gnAn gnAnarUp hI hai. vah jaD nahIn huA hai. bhagavAn AtmA jaisA hai vaisA hai, jaD nahIn hotA hai. jaisA hai vaisA hI pariNamatA hai. pragaTarUp nahIn, shaktirUpa. parantu vah gnAn aisA hai ki asAdhAraN lakShaN sabako jAnanemen A sakatA hai.

samAdhAna- .. kShamA, Arjav, mArdav dharma sab das dharma muni ArAdhate hain. das

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dharma-kShamA, Arjav, mArdav sab muni darshan, gnAn, chAritrarUp pariNamate hain. mumukShu jignAsukI bhUmikAmen vah pAtratArUp hote hain. pAtratAmen aisA AtA hI hai. mumukShukI bhUmikAmen shuddhAtmAkA dhyey rakhe aur shubhabhAv bIchamen AtA hI hai. aisA pAtratAmen hotA hai. pAtratA vinA vastu na rahe, pAtre Atmik gnAna. pAtratA hone-se sab ho sakatA hai.

gnAyak svabhAv mujhe kaise pragaT hove aisA dhyey rahatA hai. aur shubhabhAv bIchamen AtA hai to sab pAtratAmen AtA hai. tIvra krodh, tIvra mAn, tIvra mAyA, tIvra anantAnubandhI tIvra rasarUp hotA hI nahIn. manda ho jAtA hai. jisakI ruchi AtmA taraph jAtI hai, usako sab manda ho jAtA hai. usako dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, shuddhAtmAkA dhyey, kShamA, Arjav, mArdav sab usakI bhUmikAmen AtA hI hai. sab AtA hai. muni to chAritradashAmen chhaThaven-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate hain. unakI ArAdhanA to bahut prabal hai. samyagdRuShTiko bhI hotA hai aur pAtratAmen bhI hotA hai.

... ashubhamen jAnA aisA artha nahIn hai. shAstramen AtA hai ki ham to tIsarI bhUmikAmen jAneko kahate hain. isaliye ashubhamen jAneko nahIn kahate hain. shubhabhAv puNyabandhakA kAraN hai. tIsarI shuddhAtmAkI bhUmikAko pragaT karo, aisA kahanA hai. isaliye bIchamen shubhabhAv AtA hai.

mumukShu- tIsarI bhUmikA?

samAdhAna- tIsarI bhUmikA-amRutakumbh bhUmikA-shuddhAtmAkI bhUmikA. vah pragaT ho, mokShamArga to vahI hai. to bhI shubhabhAv bIchamen AtA hai. shraddhA aisI rahatI hai ki puNyabandhakA kAraN hai to bhI shubhabhAv bIchamen AtA hai. tujhe Upar-Upar chaDhaneko kahate hain, shuddhAtmAkI bhUmikAmen-amRutakumbh bhUmikAmen. isaliye ashubhamen jAneko nahIn kahate hain, parantu shubh bIchamen AtA hai. to tIsarI bhUmikAkA dhyey karo, dRuShTi karo, gnAn, AcharaN sab usakA karo. bIchamen shubhabhAv AtA hai. mArdav dharma to pAtratAmen bhI hotA hai. muniko to shubhasvarUp pariNaman kShamA, Arjav, mArdav, shuddhaparyAyarUp aur shubhabhAv muniko bhI hotA hai, panch mahAvratamen.

mumukShu- AtmAmen kartA-karmakA abhinnapanA kaisA hai? aur kartA-karmakA bhinnapanA kaisA hai?

samAdhAna- vah vibhAvakA, paradravyakA kartA nahIn hai. paradravya jaD dravyako kar nahIn sakatA. jaDakA kArya, kriyA nahIn kar sakatA hai. jaDakA karma AtmA nahIn kar sakatA hai. vibhAvakA bhI agnAn avasthAmen kartA kahanemen AtA hai. rAg usake puruShArthakI mandatA-se hotA hai. isaliye agnAn avasthAmen kartA hai. aur gnAn svabhAvamen gnAnasvavabhAkA kartA hai. gnAn gnAnarUp pariNamatA hai. gnAnarUpI gnAnakI kriyA hotI hai, gnAnakA karma

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hotA hai. gnAyakakI paryAy pragaT hotI hai. gnAn-gnAyakamen pariNati pragaT hotI hai. ye kartA- kriyA-karma AtmAmen hote hain, apane-se abhinna hote hain. paradravyakA kartA-karma jaDakA to hotA nahIn. vibhAvakA agnAn avasthAmen (hotA hai). phir asthir pariNati rahatI hai to usako kartAbuddhi, svAmItvabuddhi nahIn hai. asthir pariNatirUp hai, vah pariNati hotI hai. parantu vah merA svabhAv hai aur merA kArya hai, aisA vah mAnatA nahIn. puruShArthakI mandatA-se hotA hai, apanA svabhAv vah nahIn hai.

aise kartA-kriyA-karma AtmA-se bhinna hai. AtmAkA svabhAvakA kartA-kriyA-karma svabhAvamen hotA hai. kartA-kriyA-karmakA bhed dRuShTimen nahIn hotA hai. vah gnAnamen jAnatA hai. to bhI apanI pariNati, kriyA, paryAy shuddhAtmA taraph shuddhaparyAy pragaT hotI hai, usakI shuddha pariNati hotI hai, vah apanA kartA-kriyA-karma hai, vah vibhAvakA hai. jaDakA to AtmA kar hI nahIn sakatA. vibhAvakA agnAn avasthAmen kartA kahanemen AtA hai. gnAn avasthAmen svAmItvabuddhi TUT gayI. vibhAvakA main kartA nahIn hUn. to bhI asthir pariNati hotI hai usako jAnatA hai. jabatak pUrNa gnAyakakI dhArA nahIn huyI, kevalagnAn nahIn huA tabatak alpa asthir pariNati rahatI hai.