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mumukShu- ... ek-ek shakti ananta shaktiyommen vyApak ... ek-ek shakti ananta shaktiyommen nimitta hai. to .. spaShTa samajhAIye.

samAdhAna- AtmA akhaNDa hai to usamen ananta shakti ekadUsaremen vyApak hai. AtmAkI shakti hai. AtmA akhaNDa ek dravya, ek dravya AtmA hai ek dravya hai, usamen ananta shakti hai. to pratyek shaktikA svabhAv bhinna-bhinna hai. isaliye bhinna-bhinna kahanemen AtA hai. parantu pratyek AtmAmen hai. bhinna-bhinna, judA-judA dravya nahIn hai. pratyek shakti, ananta shakti ek AtmAmen hai. isaliye abhinna hai. pratyek shakti pratyekamen vyApak hai. ek dravyamen sab hai. ekamen ananta shakti hai. isaliye ananta dharmAtmak vastu, ananta shaktiyon-se bharapUr AtmA akhaNDa abhinna hai.

pratyek shaktikA svabhAv bhinna-bhinna hai. isaliye bhinna-bhinna kahanemen AtA hai. apekShA- se bhinna aur apekShA-se abhinna hai. gnAn gnAn, darshan, chAritra Adi saba. gnapti, darshi shakti Adi AtI hai na? sab ekadUsaremen vyApak hai. to bhI sabakA svabhAv bhinna- bhinna hai. isaliye svabhAv apekShA-se bhinna-bhinna hain. ek dravyakI apekShA-se abhinna hai.

dRuShTi akhaNDa par jAy to ek akhaNDa AtmAko grahaN karatI hai. usamen ananta shakti A jAtI hai. ananta dharmAtmak vastu ek chaitanya gnAyakako grahaN kare to usamen ananta shakti A jAtI hai. bhinna-bhinna dRuShTi nahIn karanI paDatI hai. AtmA ananta svabhAv- se bharapUr hai. aisI mahimA gnAn sab jAn letA hai.

mumukShu- gurudev aisA bhI lete the ki ek guNamen ananta guNakA rUp hai.

samAdhAna- vah to chaitanya akhaNDa hai, isaliye ekadUsarekA ekadUsaremen rUp hai. bAkI vah charchA to bahut bAr gurudev samakSha chalatI thI.

mumukShu- gnAnamen sat-astitvapanA, gnAnamen astipanA aisA kahakar astitvaguNakA rUp usamen hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, usamen hai. ek astitva guN hai to gnAn astitva, chAritra astitva is prakAr paraspar ekadUsaremen rUp hai. gnAn bhI astitvarUp hai, chAritra astitvarUp hai, bal bhI astitvarUp hai. gnAn bhI balavAn hai, gnAn bhI sAmAnya, visheSh hai. is prakAr

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gnAnamen, darshanamen. abhed hai isaliye ekadUsarekA ekadUsaremen rUp hai. gnAnamen Ananda hai, gnAn AnandarUp hai. Ananda guN bhinna bhI hai, parantu gnAnamen Ananda hai. Anandamen gnAn hai.

mumukShu- amuk spaShTIkaraN gurudev karate the aur amuk spaShTIkaraN karanemen aisA kahate the, aisA .. ghaTit hotA hai, parantu aise nahIn ghaTatA hai. aise donon prakAr-se bAt karate the.

samAdhAna- hAn, aisA kahate the. usamen sAdhanAmen to dRuShTi ek AtmA par kare, usamen sab A jAtA hai. AtmA kaisA shaktivAn? kaisA ananta mahimAvant, ananta dharmAtmak kaisA hai, vah jAnaneke liye (AtA hai). usakI mahimA, AtmA kaisA mahimAvant hai, vah jAnaneke liye hai. ananta guNon-se bharA huA, anantamen anantakA rUp hai. ananta anantarUp pariNamatA hai. usakI mahimA kaisI hai (vah jAnaneke liye hai).

vah pustakamen AtA hai. ekadUsarekA ekadUsaremen rUp hai. ek pradesh is rUp, is rUp, aise usakI mahimA, ek chaitanyakI mahimA (karanI hai).

mumukShu- chidavilAsamen dIpachandajI (kahate hain).

samAdhAna- hAn, chidavilAsamen AtA hai.

mumukShu- gurudev bArambAr AdhAr dete the.

samAdhAna- achintya shaktivAn AtmA, kaisA chaitanya dravya hai. usamen buddhi-se kAm karane jAy to amuk yukti-se baiThe, bAkI to svAnubhav gamya hai. amuk yukti-se baiThe ki ananta guNamen anantakA rUp hai. anantamen ek Anandaras vede, yah vede, vah vede, aisA karake kitane prakAr liye hain.

achintya dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp hai. aur chetanakA svarUp kaisA mahimAvant hai, vah usamen jAnanA hai. apUrvatA bhAse ki AtmA kaisA mahimAvant hai. agurulaghukI bAtamen aisA hai. vah agurulaghu svabhAv kaisA hai! hAnivRuddhi rUp pariNamatA hone par bhI jyonkA tyon hai. vAstavik hAnivRuddhi nahIn hotI, usamen tAratamyatAmen jyonkA tyon rahatA hai, usakI pariNaman shakti kaisI hai! ananta anantarUp pariName phir bhI jyonkA tyon. to bhI usamen kuchh kam nahIn hotA, kuchh baDhatA nahIn. phir bhI pariNaman us prakAr hAni-vRuddhirUp hotA hai.

mumukShu- vah bhI gurudev bAdamen kevalIgamya kahakar nikAl dete the.

samAdhAna- hAn, kevalIgamya kahate the. tattvakA svarUp kaisA sUkShma svarUp hai! kevalIke kevalagnAnamen Aye. chetanAguNamen gnAn-darshan koI apekShA-se kahanemen AtA hai. aur gnAn-darshan guNako alag bhI kahate hain. chetanAguNake andar sAmAnya aur visheSh donon sAthamen (kahate hain). koI apekShA-se gnAn, darshanako alag kahanemen AtA hai.

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mumukShu- nirNay yathArtha hai, vah kaise mAlUm karanA? yathArtha nirNayamen aisA kyA hotA hai ki jo anubhavako lAtA hai?

samAdhAna- pahale jo buddhipUrvak nirNay hotA hai, vah gurudevane jo apUrva mArga batAyA, usakA nirNay vah ruchi-se sthUlatA-se karatA hai vah alag hai. antar-se jo nirNay karatA hai, vah nirNay svayamko hI khyAlamen A jAtA hai ki yah nirNay aisA yathArtha hai ki usake pIchhe avashya svAnubhUti hogI. vah svabhAvako pahachAnakar antaramen nirNay hotA hai ki ye jo chaitanya svabhAv hai vah main hUn, yah gnAyak svabhAv hai vah main hUn, yah vibhAv main nahIn hUn.

usakA svabhAv, andar-se apanA bhAv-svabhAv pahachAnakar nirNay hotA hai. vah nirNay aisA hotA hai ki use khyAl AtA hai ki yah kAraN aisA hai ki avashya kArya AnevAlA hai. vikalpa-se anshata bhinna hokar, svAnubhUtikI bAt alag hai, parantu use antar-se aisI pratIt hotI hai ki yah gnAyak hai vahI main hUn. yah vibhAv main nahIn hUn. ye jo shAshvat chaitanya svabhAv, usakA astitva use yathArthapane antaramen-se grahaN ho jAtA hai. vah bhale hI abhI nirvikalpa nahIn hai, to bhI buddhimen use aisA grahaN ho jAtA hai.

bAkI sthUlatA-se nirNay kare vah alag bAt hai. svayamko ruchi ho ki mArga yahI hai, dUsarA mArga nahIn hai, yah vastu koI apUrva hai. aisI ruchi ho vah alag bAt hai. parantu antaramen-se jo nirNay hotA hai vah svabhAvako pahichAnakar hotA hai ki ye jo chaitanya gnAyak hai, jitanA yah gnAn hai utanA hI main hUn, yah vibhAv main nahIn hUn. aisA antaramen-se use nirNay hotA hai. aur bArambAr use usakI dRuDhatA hotI hai. bArambAr usakI pariNati us taraph muDatI hai ki yah hai vahI main hUn, yah main nahIn hUn. is prakAr use svabhAvako pahachAnakar nirNay hotA hai.

jo svabhAvako pahachAnakar nirNay hotA hai, usake pIchhe use avashya svAnubhUti hue binA nahIn rahatI. usakA antar hI kah detA hai ki yah nirNay aisA hai ki yah svabhAv- gnAyak svabhAv hI main hUn, dUsarA kuchh main nahIn hUn. ye nirvikalpa svabhAv hai vahI main hUn. usakI lInatAkI kShatike kAraN abhI nirvikalpa honemen der lagatI hai. to bhI vah nirNay aisA hotA hai ki avashya usamen use svAnubhUti hue binA nahIn rahatI.

mati-shrutagnAnakI buddhi jo bAhar jA rahI thI. vah svayam apanA nirNay karatA hai ki yah gnAnasvabhAv hai vahI main hUn. anya kuchh main nahIn hUn. aisA nirNay karake phikShar apanI taraph, upayog apanI taraph muDakar usamen lInatA kare to svAnubhUti hotI hai. pahale gnAnasvabhAvako pahachAnakar nirNay kare ki yah jo gnAn hai vahI main hUn.

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shAstramen aisA AtA hai, gurudev bhI aisA hI kahate the ki yathArtha nirNay, yathArtha kAraN ho to yathArtha kArya Aye binA nahIn rahatA. aisA shuddhAtmAkA antaramen-se use nirNay hotA hai. usakA antar hI kah detA hai ki isamen avashya svAnubhUti hogI hI.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! ApakA vajan svabhAvako pahichAnakar nirNay ho, vah yathArtha nirNay hai. aisA ApakA vajan AyA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, svabhAvako pahichAnakar nirNay hotA hai ki yah gnAn hai vahI main hUn. ye vibhAv hai vah main nahIn hUn. aisA buddhi-se sthUlatA-se ho vah alag hai, parantu antaramen-se use grahaN karake nirNay hotA hai ki yah svabhAv hai vahI main hUn. antaramen-se bhAv grahaN karatA hai.

mumukShu- aisA yathArtha nirNay ho, use anubhUti usake pIchhe AtI hI hai?

samAdhAna- usake pIchhe AtI hI hai. phir usamen kitanA kAl lage usakA niyam nahIn hai, parantu avashya hotI hI hai. (kyonki) usakA kAraN yathArtha hai.

mumukShu- svabhAvako pahachAnakar nirNay ho, vah yathArtha nirNay hai. yah bAt Apane bahut sundar kahI.

samAdhAna- svabhAvako pahachAnakar nirNay hotA hai ki yah gnAnasvabhAv hai vahI main hUn, anya kuchh main nahIn hUn. mati aur shrut dvArA vah nirNay karatA hai. phikShar mati- shrutakA upayog jo bAhar pravartatA hai, use antaramen lAye aur lInatA ho to nirvikalpa hotA hai. parantu pahale usakA yathArtha nirNay hotA hai.

mumukShu- svabhAvakA yathArtha nirNay hone-se pahale kyA hotA hogA?

samAdhAna- pahale to use svabhAv taraph muDanekI ruchi hotI hai ki AtmAkA svabhAv koI apUrva hai. karane jaisA yahI hai. ye sab vibhAv hai. aisI ruchi antaramen rahatI hai ki mArga yahI hai. gurudevane batAyA vah ek hI mArga hai, dUsarA nahIn hai. aisA usane sthUl buddhi-se sthUlatA-se nirNay kiyA hotA hai. parantu svabhAvako pahichAnakar antaramen-se nirNay hotA hai, vah nirNay abhI nahIn hotA, parantu ruchi us taraphakI hotI hai. mArgakI ruchi hotI hai. usake pahale bhI koI apUrva ruchi hotI hai. parantu vah ruchi hotI hai.

mumukShu- jabatak svabhAvakI pahichAn nahIn hotI hai tabatakakA nirNay sachchA nirNay hI nahIn hai. svabhAvako pahichAnakar jabatak nirNay hotA, tabatak to vah nirNay nirNay nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- vah nirNay nahIn hai. yathArtha kAraN pragaT nahIn huA hai. .. aisA hai ki jise koI apUrva ruchi ho to avashya vah ruchi us taraph jAtI

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hai. apUrva ruchi ho to. parantu use vartamAnamen koI santuShTatA ho jAy, aisA vah nirNay nahIn hai. vartamAn santoSh kab Ave? svabhAvako pahichAnakar nirNay ho to. bAkI ruchi hotI hai use. antaramen-se apUrva ruchi hotI hai ki mArga yahI hai. yah puruShArtha karane par hI chhUTakArA hai aur yahI karanA hai. aisI ruchi hotI hai.

mumukShu- ... aisA pudagal aur amUrta aisA jIv, usakA sanyog kaisA hai?

samAdhAna- anAdikA hai. rUpI aur arUpI. AtA hai na? grahe arUpI rUpIne e acharajanI vAta. AtmA to arUpI hai. ye to rUpI hai. parantu vibhAvaparyAy aisI hotI hai ki jis kAraN rUpI aur arUpIkA sambandha hotA hai. aisA vastukA svabhAv hai. donon virodhI svabhAv hone par bhI anAdikA usakA sambandha hai. virUddha svabhAv hone par bhI anAdi-se usakA sambandha chalA A rahA hai. use vibhAvik bhAvake kAraN vah sambandha hotA hai.

mumukShu- use kam karaneke liye kuchh...?

samAdhAna- anAdikA vah hai.

mumukShu- use kam kaise karanA? abhAv kaise karanA?

samAdhAna- usakA upAy yah hai ki svayam apane svabhAvako pahachAnanA, to vah sambandha chhUTe. apane svabhAv taraph jAy, arUpIko grahaN kare aur rUpI taraphakI dRuShTi, rUpI taraph jo ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai use toD de aur arUpI jo chaitanyasvabhAv hai, us or usakI prIti, usakI ruchi ho tab ho.

gurudev to bArambAr kahate the ki tU bhinna hai, yah sharIr bhinna hai, ye vibhAv terA svabhAv nahIn hai, tU andar shAshvat hai. koI bhedabhAv bhI terA mUl svarUp nahIn hai. aisA bArambAr kahate the. unakA upadesh to andar jamAvaT ho jAy aisA upadesh thA, parantu pariNati to svayamko palaTanI hai, puruShArtha svayamko karanA hai. svayam dishA na badale to kyA ho? dishA bAhya dRuShTi vah svayam hI rakhatA hai. andar apUrvatA lage, ruchi kare to bhI pariNati to svayamko palaTanI hai. svayamko hI karanA paDatA hai.

mumukShu- ruchi to svayam kare, phir bhI pariNati palaTe nahIn to ruchi...? samAdhAna- use apanI mandatA hai. ruchikI mandatA. ugra ruchi ho to pariNati palaTe binA rahe nahIn. parantu ruchikI mandatA hai. aisI ruchi ho ki bAharamen use kahIn chain paDe nahIn. aisI ruchi andar ugra ho to svayam puruShArtha kiye binA nahIn rahatA.