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mumukShu- vah lInatA to chaubIson ghaNTe chalatI hogI. ugratA baDh jAy..

samAdhAna- chaubIson ghaNTen unakI bhUmikA anusAr hotA hai. jo unakI samyagdarshan sambandhit lInatA ho vah chaubIson ghaNTe (hotI hai). unakI visheSh lInatA, tAratamyatA unake puruShArtha anusAr hotI hai. bhUmikA palaTe vah lInatA visheSh hotI hai. pAnchavA, chhaThavAn, sAtavAn vah lInatA unakI alag hotI hai. antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen svAnubhUtimen pravesh karate hain. antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen vikalpa chhUTakar svAnubhUtimen jAte hain. usakI lInatA ekadam ugra hotI hai. khAte-pIte, nidrAmen antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen svAnubhUtimen pravesh ho jAtA hai. bAhar rah nahIn sakate hain. antarmuhUrta-se jyAdA bAhar rah hI nahIn sakate hain. itanA apane svarUpamen ekadam pravesh ho jAtA hai. lInatAkA pravesh ho jAtA hai.

dRuShTi evan gnAn to pragaT hai hI, parantu ye lInatA-chAritra dashA baDhatI hai chhaThaven- sAtaven guNasthAnamen. chaturtha guNasthAnamen svarUpAcharaN chAritra hotA hai. pAnchaven guNasthAnamen usase visheSh hotI hai. pAnchave guNasthAnakI bhUmikAke sTej amuk-amuk baDhate jAte hain. usamen use svarUpakI lInatA baDhatI jAtI hai. us anusAr usake shubh pariNAmamen bAharake sTejamen bhI pheraphAr hotA jAtA hai. antaramen svAnubhUtikI dashA baDhatI jAtI hai.

mumukShu- muni mahArAjako khAte-pIte, chalate-phirate aisI dashA ho jAy, vaise chaturtha guNasthAnamen koI bAr hotI hogI?

samAdhAna- koI bAr ho, usakA niyam nahIn hai. chhaThaven-sAtavemmen to niyamase hotI hai. svarUpAcharaN chAritramen aisA ho, parantu vah niyamit nahIn hotI. inhen to antarmuhUrta- antarmuhUrtamen niyamit hotI hai. chaturtha guNasthAnakI lInatA kab visheSh baDh jAy, hotI hI nahIn aisA nahIn hai, lekin usakA niyam nahIn hai.

mumukShu- dhyAnamen baiThe tabhI nirvikalpa dashA ho, aisA nahIn hotA chaturta guNasthAnamen?

samAdhAna- dhyAnamen bAhar-se baiThe yA na baiThe. koI bAr bAhar-se baiThe aur ho. koI bAr na baiThe to antaramen amuk prakArakA dhyAn to use pragaT ho hI gayA hai. jo gnAtAkA astitva usane grahaN kiyA hai, gnAyakakI dhArA vartatI hai, utanI ekAgratA to use chAlU hI hai. isaliye us prakArakA dhyAn to use hai hI. dhyAn arthAt ekAgratA.

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us jAtakI ekAgratA use chhUTatI hI nahIn. amuk prakArakI ekAgratA to use hai. us ekAgratAmen kuchh visheShatA ho jAy to use bAhar-se dhyAnamen baiThe to hI ho, aisA niyam lAgU nahIn paDatA.

mumukShu- aisA bandhan nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- aisA bandhan nahIn hai ki bAhar-se sharIr dhyAnamen baiThe, aisA bandhan nahIn hai. sharIr baiTh jAy aisA bandhan nahIn hai. antaramen ekAgratA (hotI hai). amuk ekAgratA to hai hI, parantu visheSh ekAgratA kab baDh jAy, sharIr baiThA ho aisA ho to hI baDhe aisA nyAy nahIn hai. muniko to hai hI nahIn, parantu chaturtha guNasthAnamen aisA niyam nahIn hai. sab bAr aisA niyam nahIn hotA. koI bAr aisA bhI banatA hai ki dhyAnamen baiThA ho tab ho. bAhar-se dhyAnamen baiThA ho. koI bAr koI bhI sthitimen sharIr ho aur dhyAn ho jAya. bAharakA bandhan nahIn hai. amuk prakAr-se sahaj dashA ho jAtI hai.

anAdikA sarva pratham ho use palaTanemen thoDI mushkilI hotI hai, kisIko antarmuhUrtamen bhI ho jAtA hai. usamen bhI antarmuhUrtamen ho jAtA hai. phir to usakI dashA sahaj hai. isaliye bAharamen amuk prakAr-se baiThe to hI ho, aisA bandhan nahIn hai.

mumukShu- ek bAr nirvikalpa dashA ho gayI isaliye amuk kAl rAh dekhanI paDe aisA nahIn hotA na? phirase turanta bhI ho sakatI hai.

samAdhAna- rAh dekhanI nahIn paDatI. jisakI antar dashA chAlU hai, jise bhedagnAnakI dashA chAlU hai, use amuk samayamen hue binA rahatI hI nahIn. use samayakA bandhan nahIn hai. use amuk samayamen hue binA nahIn rahatI. jise antarakI dashA hai, bhedagnAnakI dhArA vartatI hI hai, use hue binA nahIn rahatI.

jo antar-se bhinna paD gayA, jisakA upayog bAhar gayA, vah amuk samayamen antaramen Aye binA nahIn rahatA. us upayogamen bAhar kuchh sarvasva nahIn hai. bhedagnAnakI dhArA to vartatI hI hai. svayam judA-nyArA vartatA hai, kShaN-kShaNamen nyArA vartatA hai. nyArI pariNati to hai hI. upayog to palaT jAtA hai. jaisI pariNati hai vaisA upayog vApas hue binA nahIn rahatA. pariNati alag kAm karatI hai, upayog bAhar jAtA hai.

pariNatikI Dor use-upayogako vApas lAye binA nahIn rahatI. pariNati to nyArI hai. bhedagnAnarUp bhedagnAnakI dhArA nirantar kShaN-kShaNamen vikalpake bIch usakI nyArI Dor kShaN-kShaNamen sahajarUp hai. pariNatikI Dor nyArI hai, vah upayogako vahAn Tikane nahIn detI. amuk samayamen upayog vApas A hI jAtA hai. svarUpamen lIn hue binA, nirvikalpa dashA hue binA use nahIn rahatI. pariNati upayogako vApas apanemen lAtI hai.

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mumukShu- gnAnIkI savikalpa dashA itanI majabUt hai ki nirvikalpa upayogakI lAchArI karanI nahIn paDatI, vah apaneAp hotA hai.

samAdhAna- usakI lAchArI nahIn karanI paDatI. usakI dashA hI aisI hai. use shAnti aur hUmph hai hI. apanI dashA hI aisI hai. svayam kahIn ekatvabuddhi-se vartatA nahIn hai. bhinna hI vartatA hai. usakI nyArI pariNati hI us upayogako vApas lAtI hai. vah upayog bAhar lambe samay bAhar Tik nahIn pAtA. vah upayog apane svarUpamen phir-se lIn hue binA nahIn rahatA. usakI nyArI pariNati hI use vApas lAtI hai. usakI lAchArI nahIn karanI paDatI.

svayamko apanI hUmph hai. apanI pariNati hI us upayogako vApas lAtI hai. use aisA nahIn hai ki nirvikalpa dashA kab AyegI? usakI rAh dekhakar baiThanA nahIn hai. usakI use koI shankA nahIn hotI. pariNati hI us upayogako vApas khInchakar lAtI hai.

samAdhAna- pariNati joradAr hotI hai to nirvikalpa dashA ho jAtI hai.

mumukShu- gnAnIko to chaubIson ghaNTe avalamban hotA hai.

samAdhAna- chaubIson ghaNTe Atma svabhAvakA avalamban hai. usakA upayog bAhar ekamek hotA hI nahIn. upayog bAhar jAye to bhI bhinna hI hai. vah vApas svarUpamen jame binA nahIn rahatA. usakI ruchi use vApas (le AtI hai), usakI pariNati use vApas lAtI hai. aisA sahajapane hai.

mumukShu- chyUt ho jAtA hai, usakA kyA kAraN?

samAdhAna- usakI pariNatimen dikkat hai, usakA puruShArtha chhUT jAtA hai, usakI nyArI pariNati chhUT jAtI hai. ekatvabuddhi ho jAtI hai. gnAyak bhinna, vibhAv bhinna vah pariNati jo gnAtAkI dhArA kShaN-kShaNamen Anshik gnAtAdhArA, Anshik shAntidhArA (chalatI rahatI hai). AtmAkI svAnubhUtikA Ananda alag hai. bAkI antaramen jo nyArI shAntidhArA aur gnAyakadhArA thI, usakI pariNati chhUT jAtI hai. usakI pariNati ekamek ho jAtI hai. isaliye svAnubhUti chalI jAtI hai. vartamAn pariNati chhUTakar ekatvabuddhi ho jAtI hai. pariNati palaT jAtI hai.

samAdhAna- gnAn-se rachit ek chaitanya vastu hI hai. gnAn bAhar-se nahIn AtA hai. vah jAnanevAlI pUrI vastu hI hai. dravya jAnanevAlA, usakA guN jAnanevAlA, usakI paryAyamen jAnanevAlA, sarva prakAr-se vah jAnanevAlA hI hai, aisI ek vastu hI hai. jaise yah jaD hai, vah jaD kuchh jAnatA nahIn. vah svayam jAnatA hI nahIn hai. tab ek jAnanevAlI vastu hai ki sarva prakAr-se jAnanevAlI hI hai.

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uShNatA bAhar-se nahIn AtI hai, agni svayam hI uShNa hai. barpha svayam hI ThaNDA hai. usakI ThaNDak bAhar-se nahIn AtI. vaise jAnanA bAhar-se nahIn AtA hai, jAnanevAlI vastu hI svayam hai. usamen bAharake sab nimitta hain. ise jAnA, use jAnA. jAnanevAlI vastu svayam hai.

samAdhAna- ... AtmAko gnAnake sAth ekamek sambandha hai. gnAn binAkA AtmA nahIn hai, AtmA binAkA gnAn nahIn hai. tAdAtmya sambandha hai. aise ananta guN hain. gnAn, darshan, chAritra, astitva, vastutva sabake sAth, dravyako sabake sAth aisA tAdAtmya sambandha hai. ananta guN-se bharA huA, ananta guNasvarUp hI dravya hai. ananta guN AtmAmen ekamek hain. jaDamen bhI vaise astitva, vastutva ityAdi jo jaDake-pudagalake varNa, gandha, ras, sparsha sab ekamek tAdAtmya hai. usamen-se kuchh alag nahIn paDatA. ekameek hai.

mumukShu- dravyako aur guNonko ekamek sambandha hai na? guNako aur guNako bhI aisA sambandha hai? jaise Apane kahA ki dravya aur guNakA tAdAtmyasiddha sambandha ngai. vaise ek guNako bAkIke ananta guN jo hain, usake sAth tAdAtmyasiddha sambandha nahIn hai?

samAdhAna- usakA lakShaNabhed-se bhed hai. sabakA lakShaN bhinna paDatA hai. bAkI vastuta sab ek hai. parantu usake lakShaN alag hain. gnAnakA lakShaN jAnanA, darshanakA dekhanekA, pratIt karanA, chAritrakA lakShaN lInatAkA, AnandakA Ananda svarUp, isaprakAr sabake lakShaN bhinna-bhinna hain. dravya apekShA-se sab ekamek hain. bAkI ekadUsareke lakShaN apekShA-se usake bhed hain. vastubhed nahIn hai, parantu lakShaN apekShA-se bhed hain. usake lakShaN alag, usake kArya alaga. gnAnakA jAnanekA kArya, darshanakA dekhanekA, chAritrakA lInatAkA, sabakA kArya kArya apekShA-se bhinna-bhinna hai. vastu apekShA-se ek hai.

mumukShu- jab gnAnaguN gnAnaguNakA kAm kare, us vakta kartA guN kyA karatA hai? (jaise) gnAn karatA hai, vaise kartA nAmakA guN hai, vah kyA karatA hogA?

samAdhAna- vah kartA svayam kArya karatA hai. gnAn jAnanekA kArya kare to kartAguN us rUp pariNaman karake usakA kArya lAnekA kAm karatA hai. gnAn jAnatA hai to usamen pariNaman karake jo jAnanekA kArya hotA hai, vah jAnanekA kArya vah kartAguN kahalAtA hai. kArya karatA hai. kartAguNamen.. kartA, kriyA aur karma. vah kartAkI pariNati hai.

mumukShu- ye jo Apane sambandha kahA, vah nimitta-naimittik sambandha nahI hai? ekarUpatA rUp sambandha hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, ekarUp sambandha hai, parantu usamen lakShaNabhed hai, kAryabhed hai. nimitta- naimittik nahIn hai. nimitta-naimittik to do dravyamen hotA hai, ye to ek hI dravya hai.

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ek dravyake andar lakShaNabhed aur kAryabhed Adi hai.

mumukShu- ... rakhaneke liye kahA hogA yA ... na ho jAy isaliye guN isaprakAr hai? svatantratA batAneke liye.

samAdhAna- pratyek vastu svatantra hI hain. parantu guNonkI svatantratA hai. parantu vastu- se ek hai. usamen anyatva bhed hai, parantu usamen vastubhed nahIn hai. paraspar ekadUsare- se lakShaN-se bhinna paDate hain, parantu vastu apekShA-se ek hain. vah svatantratA aisA nahIn hai, ek dravya jaise dUsare dravya-se svatantra hai, jaise pudagal aur chaitanya svatantra hai, do dravya atyant bhinna hain, vaise guN aur dravya, pratyek guN-guN us prakAr-se atyant bhinna nahIn hain. vastu-se ek hai aur lakShaN-se bhinna hain. usakI bhinnatA atyant bhinnatA nahIn hai. pratyek guNonkI atyant bhinnatA nahIn hai. vastu apekShA-se ek hai, parantu lakShaN- se bhinna hain.

mumukShu- anyonya bhed huA?

samAdhAna- anyonya arthAt lakShaN-se bhinna hain. usakI svatantratA... ek dravya- se dUsarA dravya svatantra hai, vaise pratyek gaN us prakAr-se svatantra nahIn hain. usakI svatantratA lakShaN tak hai aur kArya tak hai. bAkI vastu apekShA-se vah sab ek hai. ek hI vastuke sab guN hain. ananta guN-se banI ek vastu hai. ananta guNasvarUp hI ek vastu hai. vastu apekShA-se ek hai, lakShaN apekShA-se bhinna-bhinna hai. ek dravyake andar ananta shaktiyAn-ananta guN hain. sabake kArya sab karate hain aur sabake lakShaN, kArya evan prayojan bhinna-bhinna hai. vah svatantratA us jAtakI hai ki dravyakI svatantratA hai aisI svatantratA nahIn hai.

vah to, jaise sarvaguNAnsh so samyagdarshana. samyagdarshanakA guN pragaT ho, dRuShTi vibhAv taraph, dRuShTi par taraph thI aur sva taraph dRuShTi jAtI hai (to) samyagdarshan guN pragaT hotA hai. to un sabakA avinAbhAvI sambandha aisA hai ki ek samyagdarshan pragaT ho to usake sAth sarvaguNAnsh so samyagdarshan (hotA hai). sarva guNakI shuddhi Anshik hotI hai. sarva guNakI dishA badalakar apanI taraph pariNati hotI hai. ananta guNakI dishA badalakar shuddharUp pariNati hotI hai. ekakI shuddha hotI hai sab shuddhatArUp pariNamate hain. aisA sambandha hai. kyonki vastu ek hai isaliye.

ek samyagdarshan pragaT huA to usamen gnAn bhI samyak huA. chAritra bhI, mithyAchAritra thA to chAritra bhI samyak huA. sab guNakI dishA badal gayI. kyonki ek vastuke sab guN hai. aisA usakA ho to dUsare guNakI pariNati badal jAtI hai. aisA avinAbhAvI ekadUsareke sAth sambandha hai.

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samAdhAna- ... pachchIs sAl honemen kahAn der lagegI? kyon andar kuchh hotA nahIn? kyon paribhramaNakI thakAn lagatI nahIn? kyon kapakapI hotI nahIn? aisA hotA thA. anek jAtakA hotA thA. andaramen jo svayamne kiyA hai, vah apanA hai, bAkI kAl to chalA jA rahA hai. devalokakA sAgaropamakA kAl bhI pUrA ho jAtA hai, to is manuShya bhavakA kAl to kyA hisAbamen hai?

is panchamakAlamen gurudev mile aur gurudevane jo upadeshakI jamAvaT kI, vahI yAd karane jaisA hai aur usamen-se grahaN karane jaisA hai. upadesh kyA? gurudevane itanA upadesh barasAyA. jise grahaN karake antaramen jamAvaT karanI, aisA upadesh diyA hai. jaise bhagavAnakI divyadhvanikI varShA hotI hai, vaise gurudevakI (vANIkI) varShA huyI hai. donon vakta niyamarUp se.

jahAn gAmv-gAmvamen saurAShTramen kahIn mandir nahIn thA, har jagah mandir ban gaye. shAstra utane prakAshit hue. kitane hI bhaNDAramen the sab bAhar A gaye.

mumukShu- Tep bhar gayI.

samAdhAna- Tep bhar gayI.

mumukShu- yahAn sunate hain to aisA lagatA hai ki mAnon gurudev sAkShAt virAjate hon aisA hI lagatA hai.

samAdhAna- gurudevakA yah kShetra, dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAv aur Tep sab aisA hai. vah sthAn aur vah Tep yahAn bajatI hai vah alag hai, vah sthAn, gurudev jahAn baiThate the vah pAT, kShetra Adi sab vah, isaliye mAnon gurudev bolate ho aisA lage. Tep bole usake sAth ....

kaise samajhamen Aye, aisA vichAr Aye na. sahaj jo andaramen lagatA ho vah sahaj AtA hai. kuchh shAstrakA ho, lekin gurudevane shAstronkA artha karanemen kahAn kuchh bAkI rakhA hai. gurudevane bahut diyA hai.

mumukShu- ... samAdhAna- padmanandI jab paDhate the, tab aisA hI paDhate the. padmanandImen jinendra bhagavAnakA adhikAr jab Ave, tab aisA hI paDhate the. dAnakA adhikAr Aye tab aisA paDhate. he jinendra! aisA kahakar paDhate the. Tepamen AyA thA na? mAtA! ApakA putra hamArA svAmI hai. mAtA! jatan karake rakhanA. ... indrANI bhagavAnako lene AtI hai, tab vah bAt AtI thI. hRuday-se bolate the. sabakA kalejA kAmp UThe, aise kahate the. vah bhakti adhikAr paDhe, dAn adhikAr paDhe.... (tab aisA hI AtA thA).