Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 267.

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samAdhAna- .. samyagdarshan prApta karanekA gurudevane kitanA spaShTa karake mArga batAyA hai. karanekA svayamko bAkI rahatA hai. apanI puruShArthakI kShatike kAraN aTakA hai. svayam puruShArtha kare to ho sake aisA hai. jo aTakA hai, vah svayamkI kShatike kAraNa. apanI pariNatikI kShatike kAraN aTakA hai. bAkI mArga to ek hI hai, mArga kahIn dUsarA nahIn hai. mArga to ek hI hai.

ek gnAyak AtmAko pahachAnanA, vahI ek mArga hai. dUsarA koI mArga nahIn hai. mArga kahIn jyAdA nahIn hai ki use AkulatA ho ki is mArga par jAnA, is mArga par jAnA yA is mArga par jAnA. aisA nahIn hai. mArga to ek hI hai. ek chaitanya padArtha hai. svatasiddha anAdiananta AtmA hai, us AtmAko pahachAnanA. AtmA apaneApako bhUl gayA vah ek AshcharyakI bAt hai ki svayam hone par bhI svayamko svayam dekhatA nahIn hai. svayam svayamko pahichAne, bhinna karake.

ye sharIr apanA svarUp nahIn hai. usake sAth ekatvabuddhi, andar vikalpake sAth ekatvabuddhi, sab shubhAshubh bhAv, sabake sAth ekatvabuddhi kar baiThA. usase bhinna apanA gnAyak svarUp gnAn lakShaN-se pUrNa gnAyakako pahichAnanA. use pahichAnakar usakA bhedagnAn karake, us pariNatiko dRuDh karake svayam usamen pratIti dRuDh karake, gnAn karake, usamen lInatA kare to samyagdarshan hotA hai. parantu karanA svayamko hai. svayam karatA nahIn hai. svayam apanI mandatA-se rukA hai.

mumukShu- isamen shraddhAkA doSh len, gnAnakA doSh len yA puuruShArthakA doSh len yA ruchikI kShati len?

samAdhAna- sab doSh hai. shraddhAkI kShati hai, ruchikI kShati hai, puruShArthakI kShati hai. sab ekasAth mile hain. gnAn yathArtha kab kahA jAy? ki gnAn gnAnarUp pariName taba. tabatak vah buddhipUrvakakA gnAn karatA hai ki vastu aisI hai. phir bhI vah gnAn gnAyakarUp pariNamatA nahIn hai. isaliye vah gnAn bhI yathArtha nahIn hai. vichAr karake gnAn kare ki yah vastu aise hI hai. parantu gnAyak gnAyakarUp pariName nahIn, tabatak gnAnako bhI yathArtha visheShaN lAgU nahIn paDatA. isaliye sab doSh hai.


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mumukShu- sab guNonkA doSh hai.

samAdhAna- sabakA doSh hai. ek palaTane-se sab palaT jAte hain. ek samyak ho to sab samyak hotA hai. ek-se aTakA hai. ruchi manda hai, puruShArtha manda hai. us apekShA-se pratItimen, gnAnamen sabamen kShati hai.

mumukShu- vikalpa bhI sahaj hai, nirvikalpa bhI sahaj hai aur main bhI sahaj hUn. to phir vikalpamen dukh laganA chAhiye, to sahajamen dukh laganA chAhiye, usamen pharka nahIn paDA?

samAdhAna- vikalpa sahaj hai, matalab apane puruShArthakI pariNatike binA koI jabaran karavA nahIn detA. vikalpa sahaj hai, vah to apekShA-se hai. khud aisA rakhe ki vikalpa sahaj hai, isaliye apaneAp jo honevAlA hai vah hotA hai, to usakI puruShArthakI gati apanI or muDegI nahIn. jo aTakA hai vah apane puruShArthakI gati nahIn hai, us taraph usakI viparIt pariNati jAtI hai, isaliye aTakA hai. vikalpa sahaj hai, aisA yadi rakhe, us ek apekShAko grahaN kare aur puruShArthakI mandatAko grahaN nahIn karegA to vah Age nahIn baDhegA.

sab kAryamen apane puruShArthakI kShatiko yadi dekhegA to hI vah palaTegA, anyathA palaTegA nahIn. ... sahaj hai. parantu vikalpa sahaj hai, isaliye apaneAp honevAlA hotA hai, to-to phir ashubhamen-se shubh bhI nahIn hogA. vah kuchh badal hI nahIn pAyegA. shubhamen-se shuddha bhI nahIn hogA. jaise honevAlA ho, vaisA hogA. vah koI AtmArthIkA lakShaN nahIn hai.

jahAn AtmArtha hai, vahAn use aisA hI lagatA hai ki merI mandatA-se main aTakA hUn. merI puruShArthakI (kShati hai). phir bhale hI vah utanI AkulatA na kare, parantu vah samajhe ki merI apanI mandatA-se main aTakA hUn. apanI mandatA usake dhyAnamen ho to palaTanA hogA. mandatA hI dhyAnamen nahIn hai aur kisI aur par DAle to use badalanekA avakAsh nahIn hai.

mumukShu- main sahaj hUn, gnAyak sahaj hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, gnAyak anAdiananta vastu sahaj hai. parantu usakI pariNati palaTanemen puruShArthakA kAm hai. .. apekShA-se sahaj hai, parantu puruShArtha palaTanA apane hAthakI bAt hai. jise gnAyak dashA pragaT huI hai, jise bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT huyI hai, use sahaj pariNati (hai). jise bhedagnAnakI sahaj pariNati pragaT huyI hai, use bhI aisA rahatA hai ki mere puruShArthakI mandatA-se, merI lInatAkI mandatA-se main chAritramen, vItarAg dashAmen, chhaThThI-sAtavIn bhUmikAmen pahunchA nahIn hUn. merI apanI mandatAke kAraNa. usake gnAnamen bhI


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aisA hotA hai.

yah to abhI usase bhI pahalekI bhUmikAmen khaDA hai, bhedagnAn pragaT nahIn huA hai aur sahaj dashA to pragaT nahIn huyI hai, aur sahaj mAn le to Age baDhanekA avakAsh nahIn hai. sahaj dashA hI pragaT nahIn huyI hai. aur kartRutvabuddhimen khaDA hai aur sahaj mAn le to Age baDhanekA avakAsh nahIn hai. ise to kartAbuddhi chhUT gayI hai, svAmItvabuddhi chhUT gayI hai, gnAyak dashA pragaT huyI hai, to bhI usamen puruShArthakI apekShA usake dhyAnamen rahatI hai ki mere chAritrakI mandatA-se lInatAkI mandatA-se chhaThThI-sAtavIn bhUmikAmen jA nahIn pAtA hUn. vah usake khyAlamen hai. to bhI use aisA rahatA hai. sarva apekShA-se aisA hI mAne ki sab sahaj hai, to Age baDhanekA avakAsh nahIn rahatA hai.

mumukShu- isamen kramabaddha A gayA na?

samAdhAna- sab sahaj mAne usamen kramabaddha A gayA. parantu kramabaddha puruShArthapUrvak honA chAhiye. puruShArthake sAth kramabaddha juDA hai. sachchA kramabaddha tab kahA jAy ki jisakI kartAbuddhi chhUT gayI, sahaj gnAyak dashA pragaT huyI hai to bhI puruShArthake sAth vah kramabaddha sambandha rakhatA hai. puruShArthakI jaisI pariNati ho us jAtakA usakA kramabaddha hotA hai. us jAtake kramabaddhakI rachanA use hotI hai. vah puruShArthake sAth juDA hai.

usakI puruShArthakI gati apanI taraph jAy, gnAyakarUp (pariName) to usakA kramabaddha mokSha taraph jAtA hai. aur bAharamen khaDA hai, vibhAvamen ekatvabuddhi karake (mAnatA hai ki) jaise honA hogA vaisA hogA, usakA kramabaddha us jAtakA hai. apanI taraph jAy usakA kramabaddha us jAtakA hai.

mumukShu- gnAnako kis prakAr-se dhIrA karen?

samAdhAna- gnAnako dhIrA karake tU dekh, gnAyak kyA hai? vastu kyA hai? par kyA hai? kyA sva hai? aise dhIrA hokar vichAr to yathArtha gnAn hogA. AkulatA, rAgamishrit aise gnAnamen visheSh AkulatAmen yathArtha svabhAv tujhe grahaN nahIn hogA. isaliye dhIrA hokar, rAgako gauN karake dhIrA hokar vichAra. to yathArtha hogA. yathArtha vastu khyAlamen AyegI. gnAnako dhIrA karake, rAg-se bhinna use gauN karake dekh to tujhe yathArtha grahaN hogA.

mumukShu- viparIt shraddhA ho to gnAn dhIrA nahIn hotA hai?

samAdhAna- usamen jo visheSh AkulatA ho, us AkulatA-se dhIrA paD sakatA hai. yathArthamen dhIrA ho, vah alag bAt hai. jignAsAkI bhUmikAmen bhI dhIrA hokar dekh to sakatA hai.

mumukShu- vikalpAtmak bhedagnAn huA?

samAdhAna- vikalpAtmak hai.


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mumukShu- digambar kevalagnAn shaktirUp-se svIkArate hain, sattA aur shaktimen kyA antar hai?

samAdhAna- sattA arthAt agnikI bhAnti andar vaisAkA vaisA paDA hai. agni andar hai, Upar-se Dhak dI hai. vaise sattA-se kevalagnAn (hai), us (mAnyatAmen) kevalagnAn andar paDA hai aur Upar-se Dhak gayA hai, aisA artha hai. aur shakti-se kevalagnAn arthAt usakI pariNati, usakI pariNatikI shakti kam ho gayI hai. us arthamen hai.

svabhAv usakA akhaNDa hai. parantu andar DhakA huA, sUrya pUrA prakAshamAn hai, bAdalon- se Dhak gayA hai. aise kevalagnAn to andar vaisAkA vaisA bharA hai, parantu Upar-se Dhakam gayA hai, aise sattA-se kevalagnAn (mAnatA hai). digambar aisA kahatA hai, andar pUrA kevalagnAnakA sUrya pariNati rUp-se vaisAkA vaisA paDA hai, aise nahIn hai. paranta usakI shakti-svabhAv- se hai. parantu usakI shakti pariNatirUp nahIn hai. usakI shakti kam hai. paryAyamen shakti kam ho gayI hai. jabaki sattA arthAt paryAyakI pariNati bhI vaisIkI vaisI hai, aisA kahanA chAhate hain.

mumukShu- ve log pariNatirUp mAnate hain.

samAdhAna- hAn, parimatirUp-se sattA mAnate hain. pariNatirUp-se nahIn hai, shaktirUp- se hai. aisA antar hai. svabhAv hai, svabhAvakA nAsh nahIn huA hai, parantu use pragaT nahIn hai. jaise chhoTIpIparamen charaparAIkI shakti hai, parantu use ghIsate-ghIsate charaparAI pragaT hotI hai. vaise usakI kevalagnAnakI shakti paripUrNa bharI hai, parantu use pragaT paryAyarUp nahIn hai.

mumukShu- sattArUp nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, shaktirUp-se hai, sattArUp-se nahIn hai. andar vaisAkA vaisA bharA hai arthAt vedan mAno pragaT paDA ho, aisA sattAmen artha hotA hai. pragaT paDA ho vaise. pragaT nahIn paDA hai, shaktimen hai. sattAkA artha aisA hai ki mAnon pragaT kaise paDA ho. vaise pragaT nahIn hai.

... honekI shakti hai, parantu vah kahIn vRukSharUp nahIn hai. vaisA hai. kevalagnAnakI shakti hai, parantu use pariNatirUp-se pragaT kare to vah pragaT hotA hai. bIjamen jaise vRukSha honekI shakti hai. ... Upar DhakA huA ho, pUrA hai.

mumukShu-

samAdhAna- svabhAvako pahichAne to ho. shvetAmbar-digambar... apanA svabhAv pahichAnanA chAhiye.

mumukShu- svabhAv to digambar shAstramen hI yathArtha batAyA hai.


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samAdhAna- yathArtha mArga to digambar shAstrommen hI hai. vah to yathArtha hai hI kahAn? usamen yathArtha nahIn hai. usamen kitane hI jAtake pheraphAr hai. vah yathArtha nahIn hai. .. kitane hI pheraphAr hai. yathArtha mArga to digambaramen hI hai. prArambh-se lekar pUrNatA paryantakA digambaramen hI hai. shvetAmbaramen to bahut pheraphAr hai. sattA aur shaktike alAvA bhI dUsare bahut pheraphAr hai. bahut pheraphAr hain. (gurudevane) kitanA abhyAs karake, khoj-khojakar, vichAr karake parivartan kiyA thA ki yah mArga satya hai.

mumukShu- shrImadajIne utanI spaShTatA nahIn kI hai. andaramen thI, parantu likhAvaTamen utanI spaShTatA (nahIn hai). gurudevane jitanI kI hai utanI nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- gurudevane to pUrA mArga prakAshit kar diyA. sUkShma rUp-se bhI kahIn kisIkI bhUl na rahe aisA kar diyA hai.

mumukShu- janma-maraN karate-karate mushkil-se manuShyabhav milA, usamen aisA sunane milA. usamen aisA mArga gurudevane batAyA. usamen AtmA bhinna hai, usakA kyA svabhAv hai, use pahachAnanA hai. ye vibhAvasvabhAv to dukharUp aur AkulatArUp hai. vah kahIn apanA svabhAv nahIn hai, AkulatA hai. shubhAshubh bhAv AkulatA hai. andar sukharUp ek AtmA hai. use kaise pIchhAnanA, usakA prayatna karanA. usake liye usake vichAr, vAnchan, sab karanA. aur dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA. ek shuddhAtmAkI pahachAn kaise ho, us dhyeyapUrvaka. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA-shubhabhAvanAmen vaha. jinendra dev, guru aur shAstra. aur antaramen shuddhAtmAkI pahachAn kaise ho, vah karanA hai. jIvanamen usake liye yah sab prayatna, usake liye abhyAs, sab usIke liyA karanA hai.

bAkI sab to anAdikAl-se sab kiyA hai. jIvako sab prApta ho chUkA hai. vah kahIn apUrva nahIn hai. devalokakA bhav aur devalokakI sampatti prApta huyI, aur bAharakI sampatti bhI jIvako ananta bAr milI hai. apUrva to samyagdarshan apUrva hai. isaliye gurudevane apUrva vastu batAyI. vah kaise prApta ho, vah karanA hai.

jIvako ananta kAlamen sab prApta huA hai. ek jinendra dev nahIn mile hain usakA artha svayamne pahichAnA nahIn hai. ananta kAlamen mile hain, parantu pahichAnA nahIn hai. isaliye nahIn milane barAbar hai. aur ek samyagdarshan apUrva hai. vah kaise prApta ho, usakI bhAvanA, lagan, mahimA Adi sab karane jaisA hai. usakA vichAr, vAnchan sab karanA hai.

antaramen koI apUrva vastu hai, anupam vastu hai. sukharUp vastu hai. usakI pratIt, usakA gnAn, usamen lInatA, vah sab kaise prApta ho, usakA prayatna karane jaisA hai. aisA mAnate the, itanA shubhabhAv kiyA athavA itanI kriyAen kI to dharma ho jAy, aisA mAnA thA. aisemen gurudevane antar dRuShTi batAyI ki antaramen dharma hai. bAhar-se kuchh


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nahIn AtA hai. jab tak shuddhAtmA pragaT na ho, to usakA dhyey rakhe. tabatak dev- guru-shAstra taraphakhe shubhabhAv Aye. bAkI dharma to AtmAke svabhAvamen rahA hai. vah mArga pUrA gurudevane batAyA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! Apake nimitta-se jo spaShTIkaraN ho vah bhI utanA sundar hotA hai ki logonko jo kuchh aspaShTa ho, vah spaShTa ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- antaramen shIghratA-se puruShArtha utpanna ho... utpanna na ho to usakA sanskAr DAle. ekatvabuddhi toDakar main chaitanya hI hUn, aise bArambAr dRuDh abhyAs karatA rahe. usakA vichAr, usakA vAnchan, dev-guru-shAstrane jo batAyA hai, vah sab svayam bArambAr usakA manthan kar-karake usake sanskAr DAle to bhaviShyamen bhI sanskAr gahare to vah pragaT honekA kAraN banatA hai. jo puruShArtha kare, ugra kare to use antarmuhUrtamen hotA hai, usase bhI ugra kare to use chha mahinemen hotA hai. na ho to usakA abhyAs bArambAr karatA rahe. abhyAs kare to bhI bhaviShyamen use pragaT honekA kAraN banatA hai. yadi andar yathArtha gahare sanskAr DAle to.

vah AtA hai na, tatprati prIti chitten vArtApi hI shrutA. prIti-se bhI tattvakI- AtmAkI bAt sunI hai ki AtmA koI apUrva hai, aisA gurudevane batAyA hai. antarakI gaharI ruchi-se sune to vaise sanskAr yadi use dRuDh ho jAy to bhaviShyamen use vah pragaT hue binA nahIn rahate. vaisA puruShArtha bhaviShyamen phir-se utpanna honekA use kAraN banatA hai. ata aisA kAraN DAle, yadi pragaT na ho to bArambAr aisA abhyAs karatA rahe. abhyAs karatA rahe to bhI achchhA hai.

main chaitanya hUn, chaitanya hUn, ye sab main nahIn hUn. jo ekatvabuddhi anAdikAl-se dRuDh ho rahI hai, kShaN-kShaNamen sharIr-se bhinna main hUn, vah to use mAlUm nahIn hai, vah mAtra vichAr-se nakkI karatA hai. parantu kShaN-kShaNamen main bhinna hI hUn. ye vikalpa ho vah bhI merA svarUp nahIn hai. aise kShaN-kShaNamen use bhinna karanekA, antar-se mahimApUrvak (kare). rukhe bhAv-se nahIn. AtmA koI apUrva aur anupam vastu hai. aisI usako mahimA Akar antaramen-se bArambAr mujhe yahI grahaN karane yogya hai aur yahI vastu sarvasva hai. isaprakAr vah bArambAr pariNati dRuDh karatA rahe. usakA vichAr, usakA vAnchan sab karatA rahe to vah abhyAs karane jaisA hai.

gurudev kahate the, chhoTIpIparako ghisate-ghisate charaparAI pragaT hotI hai. vaise bArambAr abhyAs karane-se antaramen-se pragaT honekA kAraN banatA hai. chhAchhamen makkhan hotI hai. use bilote-bilote makkhan bAhar AtA hai. vaise bArambAr yadi yathArtha abhyAs ho, apanA astitva grahaN karake ki main gnAyak hUn, aise bArambAr abhyAs kare to bhedagnAn pragaT


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honekA kAraN banatA hai. yathArtha kAraN ho to kArya AtA hI hai. bAkI AtmA bhinna hai.

jaise sphaTik svabhAv-se nirmal hai, vaise AtmA svabhAv-se-vastu-se to nirmal hai. usamen lAl-pIlA pratibimb utpanna hotA hai, vah to bAharake phUlakA uThatA hai. aise karmake nimitta-se jo vibhAv bhAv hotA hai, usamen pariNati apanI hotI hai, puruShArthakI mandatA-se. vah jaD nahIn karavAtA. apanI pariNatikI mandatA-se hotI hai. parantu use vah palaT sakatA hai ki main to chaitanya hUn aur yah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. isaprakAr pariNatiko bhinna karake, main to ek shuddhAtmA hUn, ye sab vibhAvabhAv hai, use prayAs karake antaramen usakA bhedagnAn kare. bArambAr usakI dRuDhatA kare.

AtmAmen gnAn aur Ananda bharA hai, vah apanemen-se pragaT hotA hai, bAhar-se kahIn- se nahIn AtA hai. bAharamen-se kuchh A jAtA hai yA bAharamen-se Ananda yA gnAn nahIn Ate. dev-guru-shAstra mArga batAye. vah gnAn pragaT honekA kAraN banatA hai. parantu puruShArtha svayamko karanA rahatA hai.

anAdikAl-men jo deshanAlabdhi hotI hai (usamen) koI guru mile, koI dev mile to antaramen svayam grahaN karatA hai. parantu aise guruke upadeshakA nimitta banatA hai. upAdAn apanA hai. parantu aisA nimitta-naimittik sambandha hai ki guruke upadeshakA nimitta banatA hai. puruShArtha svayamko karanA paDatA hai. gnAyakako grahaN karanA. gnAyakako grahaN kaise karanA? usakA mArga bhinna-bhinna nahIn hai. ek gnAyakako grahaN karanA. vastu-mArga ek hI hai. usakI pratIti, usakA gnAn, usakI lInatA. usake liye sab laganI, mahimA, usakA abhyAs bArambAr vahI karanekA hai.

mumukShu- pahale gnAnalakShaN-se, ye jo pandrahavI gAthAmen AyA ki gnAnalakShaN-se..

samAdhAna- gnAnalakShaN-se AtmAkI pahichAn hotI hai. gnAnalakShaN-se pUre gnAyakako grahaN karanA. gnAnalakShaN ek sAmAnya AtmAkA lakShaN ki jisamen bhed nahIn hai, aisA gnAyaka. koI paryAyakA bhed, paryAyake bhed par bhI dRuShTi nahIn rakhakar main pUrNa gnAyak hUn, us gnAyakako grahaN kare to gnAyak grahaN hotA hai.

itanA jAnA, itanA jAnA, itanA jAnA vah main, aisA nahIn. parantu gnAyak jo jAnanevAlA hai, vahI main hUn. use grahaN karanA. gnAnakI anubhUti-gnAyakakI anubhUti hai vahI main hUn. vibhAvakI jo anubhUti ho rahI hai vah main nahIn hUn. gnAyakakI anubhUti hai vahI main hUn. rAgamishrit jo svAd Aye vah main nahIn. parantu main ek gnAyak, akelA gnAyak, jisamen akelA gnAyak hI hai, chAron or gnAyak hI hai, vah main hUn. .. main svayam gnAyak hUn. aise gnAyakako grahaN karanA vahI (upAy hai). rAgamishrit jo gnAn hotA hai-vikalpamen, vah vikalpa main nahIn hUn, apitu main gnAn hUn. isaprakAr gnAnako grahaN karanA.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amRut vANIno jay ho!