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mumukShu- rAg aur gnAnako bhinna karake, ek gnAyak hai vahI main hUn, aisA dekhanA?

samAdhAna- rAgako bhinna karatA hai vahAn gnAn bhinna paD hI jAtA hai. isaliye main gnAyak hUn, aisA grahaN kare to rAg bhinna paD jAtA hai. vAstavik rUp-se donon sAthamen hI hai. apanA astitva grahaN kare ki main gnAn hUn, isaliye rAg bhinna paD hI jAtA hai.

mumukShu- main gnAn hUn arthAt main gnAyak hUn?

samAdhAna- main gnAyak hUn. gnAn arthAt mAtra jAnapanA itanA hI nahIn, parantu main svayam gnAyak hUn. main gnAyak hUn, sarva prakAr-se gnAyak hI hUn.

samAdhAna- ... AtmAko pahachAnanA. vibhAv bhinna aur AtmA bhinna, prayojan to vah siddha karanekA hai. adhyAtma paddhatimen bhedagnAn karanA hai. bhedagnAn karanekA prayojan hai. us prayojanako dekhanA. prayojan vah hai. usamen rukanA nahIn ki isakA yah artha hai yA vah artha hai, bhAv-Ashay grahaN kar lenA. jahAn nimitta-naimittik sambandha ho, parakI mukhyatA ho usamen vibhAvakI gauNatA A hI jAtI hai. vibhAvakI bAt ho usamen nimittakI apekShA A jAtI hai. isaliye jo bhedagnAn, vibhAv-se bhedagnAn karanA hai, vah ek hI prayojan hai. usamen jaD-chaitanyako gauN karake vibhAv-se bhedagnAn karanA, ek hI bAt hai. us prakAr-se vichAr karanA hai.

AchArya bhI aisA kahate hain, aisA kahakar yah kahanA chAhate hain ki tU bhedagnAn kara. gurudev bhI aisA kahate hain ki tU bhedagnAn kara. vibhAv terA svabhAv nahIn hai. nimittakI apekShA-se nimittakA hai, nimittakI apekShA-se nimittakA hai aur tere puruShArthakI mandatA-se hotA hai isaliye terA hai. usamen bhI nimittakI apekShA hai. aur nimittakI mukhyatA-se bAt karake jaDamen DAl de to vah ekAnta jaD hai, usamen terI vibhAvakI apekShA sAthamen A jAtI hai. aur tujh-se hotA hai aisA kahe, usamen nimittakI apekShA AtI hai. aur tujh-se hotA hai aisA kahanemen nimittakI apekShA AtI hai. nimitta- naimittik sambandha kyA hai usakA vichAr karake bhedagnAn karanekA prayojan hai.

shAstramen adhyAtma dRuShTi-se prayojan hai, us prayojanako siddha karanA hai. bAhar nahIn.

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usamen rukanekA koI prayojan nahIn hai. bhedagnAn kar, aisA gurudevakA kahanekA hai. AchAyAko yah kahanA hai. sab vibhAv terA svabhAv nahIn hai, tU usase bhinna hai. vibhAv nimittakI apekShA-se hotA hai. nimitta-kI apekShA-se nimittakA hai. tere puruShArthakI mandatA-se teremen hotA hai. ek hI (bAt hai ki) tU usase bhinna paD jA. vibhAv puruShArthakI mandatA- se hotA hai aur terA svabhAv nahIn hai. svabhAvabhed-se usakA bhed hai. isaliye usakA bhedagnAn kar, aisA kahanA hai.

mumukShu- kisI bhI prakAr-se AtmAkI mukhyatA (rakhanI).

samAdhAna- AtmAkI mukhyatA rakhanI. bhedagnAn karanekA prayojan hai.

mumukShu- yA to terA svabhAv nahIn hai aise tU le athavA nimittamen DAl de. prayojanakI siddhi..

samAdhAna- hAn, prayojanakI siddhi vah hai. tU bhinna hai aur jo vibhAv hotA hai use nimittamen DAl de. athavA tere puruShArthakI mandatA-se teremen hotA hai. us apekShA- se chetanamen hotA hai. isaliye tU use puruShArtha karake TAla. tU bhinna hai, bhedagnAn karake jo asthiratA rahe use bhI tujhe toDanI hai. isaliye puruShArtha karanekA, bhedagnAn karanekA prayojan hai.

mumukShu- prayojanako mukhya rakhanA.

samAdhAna- prayojanako mukhya rakhanA hai. koI apekShA-se nimittakI mukhyatA-se aur jaDakI apekShA-se jaDake kahanemen AtA hai. chetanakI apekShA-se chetanakA kahanemen AtA hai. apane puruShArthakI mandatA-se hotA hai. chetanakI apekShA-se chetanamen hotA hai (aisA kahanemen) nimittakI gauNatA hotI hai aur jaD taraph, nimitta taraphakI bAt Aye usamen gauNatA hotI hai. donommen nimitta-naimittik sambandha hai hI. isaliye tU usase bhinna paDa. bhedagnAn karanekA prayojan hai.

mumukShu- jUThe vAdavivAdamen aTakanA nahIn, prayojanako..

samAdhAna- jUThe vAdavivAdamen aTakanA nahIn, prayojanako siddha karanA. adhyAtma dRuShTimen ek bhedagnAn karanekA prayojan hai. AchAryako yah kahanA hai ki tU bhedagnAn kar, gurudevakA aisA kahanA hai, tU bhedagnAn kara. ekAnta jaDakA ho to phir puruShArtha karanA kahAn rahatA hai? parantu terA svabhAv nahIn hai, isaliye jaD taraph jAtA hai. aur jaD taraph jAy, parantu teremen nahIn hote ho to tujhe kuchh karanA nahIn rahatA. isaliye us apekShA-se teremen hotA hai. donon apekShAkA mel karake nimitta-naimittik sambandha kaise hai (yah samajh lenA).

koI apekShA-se kisIkI mukhyatA aur kisIkI gauNatA hotI hai. prayojan bhedagnAn

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karanekA hai. usake vAdavivAdamen aTakanA nahIn. bhedagnAn karake AtmA andar chaitanya ananta guNonse bharA hai usako pragaT karanA hai. vah karanA hai. viparIt svabhAv hai, dukharUp hai, dukhakA phal hai, use chhoDakar AtmA (bhinna hai), usase bhedagnAn karanA hai. jaDase bhI bhedagnAn karanA hai aur vibhAv-se bhI bhedagnAn karanA hai. vibhAv bhI terA svabhAv nahIn hai. dukh hai, dukhakA phal hai. usase bhinna paDa. akele gnAnamen gnAn hI dikhatA hai, krodhamen krodh dikhatA hai. donon bhinna hain. dononkA svabhAvabhed hai.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- puruShArtha svayamko karanA hai. main chaitanya hUn. vah kahIn rokatA nahIn hai, karma yA anya koI rokatA nahIn hai. chaitanya AtmA, main gnAyak hUn. vah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai. aise puruShArtha karanA, ruchi karanA, laganI, mahimA AtmAkI karanA, par taraph-se ruchi haTAkar AtmAkI ruchi karanI chAhiye. usakI taraph puruShArtha karanA. usakA vichAr, sab usakA karanA chAhiye. AtmAkA bhedagnAn kaise pragaT ho aur svAnubhUti kaise ho, aisA puruShArtha karanA chAhiye. shubhabhAv bIchamen AtA hai, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA aur shuddhAtmA kaise pragaT ho, aisA dhyey honA chAhiye. shuddhAtmA kaise pragaT hove?

mumukShu- gnAn lakShaN dvArA AtmAko grahaN karanA, aisA shAstramen AtA hai. gnAn antaramen vedanapane rahA hai, phir bhI vah vedan pakaDamen nahIn AtA hai, yah gnAt hotA hai, yah gnAt hotA hai, aisA khyAlamen AtA hai. parantu antaramen jo gnAnakA pariNaman ho rahA hai, jabatak vah gnAnamen grahaN na ho tabatak Age kaise baDhanA?

samAdhAna- gney-se gnAn grahaN hotA hai, parantu gnAn-se gnAn grahaN nahIn hotA hai? gnAn-se gnAn grahaN ho, karanA vah hai. usIkA astitva grahaN karanA. vah nahIn ho tabatak usakA prayatna karate rahanA. gney taraph dRuShTi (jAtI hai), gneyako jAnanevAlA jo gnAn hai, us gnAnakA astitva kaise grahaN ho, usakA prayatna karanA. gnAnaguN ek nahIn, parantu gnAnakA astitva ek chaitanyadravyane dhAraN kiyA hai, us chaitanyadravyako grahaN karanA hai. jabatak na ho tabatak prayAs karanA.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! chaitanyadravyako grahaN karanA, parantu abhI to usakA lakShaN hI agnAnamen grahaN nahIn ho rahA hai, to phir dravyako to (kaise grahaN hogA)?

samAdhAna- prayatna karanA, lakShaN bhI grahaN karanekA prayatna karanA. ek hI upAy hai, dUsarA koI upAy nahIn hai. AtmAkA lakShaN grahaN karanA. gnAn lakShaN kaise grahaN ho? aur us lakShaN-se gnAyak kaise grahaN ho, vah ek hI upAy hai, dUsarA koI upAy nahIn hai.

mumukShu- vichArakI yuktimen vichAr karen ki ye sab gney kisako prasiddha karate

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hain? ki gnAnako prasiddha karate hain. vah gnAn dehapramAN AtmA hai to vahAn pariNaman ho rahA hai. parantu jis prakAr-se spaShTapane usake svarUp-se khyAlamen AnA chAhiye ki jo khyAlamen Ane-se sIdhA gnAyak bhAvabhAsanarUp ho, aisA nahIn hotA hai.

samAdhAna- usakA prayatna karanA. yukti-se, vichAr-se nakkI kare lekin usamen jo astitva hai, vah kaise grahaN ho, usakA vichAr, prayatna, manthan sab usIkA, usakI laganI, mahimA sab vahI karanA hai. bAhar-se kuchh nahIn hotA hai. antaramen antar dRuShTi karanI. gurudevane bahut kahA hai. antar-se hI vah grahaN kaise ho? use hI grahaN karanA hai. sabako gujarAtI bhAShAmen khyAl AtA hai? gurudevane to chAron or-se prachAr kiyA hai.

mumukShu- paryAyen pragaT huyI hain, usake sAth tatapanA hai yA atatapanA?

samAdhAna- apanI paryAyonke sAth? koI apekShA-se tat hai, koI apekShA-se atat hai. apanI paryAyake sAth tanmay hai aur paryAy to kShaNik hai. isaliye use atat bhI kahanemen AtA hai. paryAy palaTatI hai. aur paryAy to dravyake Ashray-se hotI hai. isaliye paryAy usake sAth tatarUp hai aur koI apekShA-se atat bhI hai.

mumukShu- gnAn, darshan, chAritrakI pariNati usakA svabhAv hone-se use sahaj kahA.

samAdhAna- vah sahaj hai. usakA svabhAv hai.

mumukShu- aur puruShArthapUrvak prApta hotA hai, isaliye puruShArtha-se prApta hotA hai aisA kahanemen AtA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, puruShArtha-se pragaT hotA hai. jagatamen jo kuchh vastuke svabhAvamen nahIn hai aisA kuchh utpanna nahIn hotA hai. usake svabhAvamen hai vah utpanna hotA hai. parantu vah puruShArtha-se pragaT hotA hai. pariNati jo anAdi-se vibhAvamen hai, vah apaneAp svabhAvamen A jAtI hai, puuruShArthake binA, aisA nahIn hai. puruShArtha-se apane svabhAv taraph AtI hai. parantu jo svabhAv hai palaTanekA aur usakA svabhAv hai gnAn, darshan, chAritra Adi usake svabhAvamen-se pragaT hotA hai, isaliye sahaj hai.

aisA ho ki jaise honA hogA vaise hogA, to aise pragaT nahIn hai. karanevAlekI dRuShTi, jise svabhAv pragaT karanA hai, usake khyAlamen to (aisA hotA hai ki) main puruShArtha karake palaTA karun. main gnAyak taraph dRuShTi karun, usakI bhAvanA vaisI hotA hai. karanevAleko aisA nahIn hotA ki jaise honA hogA vaise hogA. jaise pariNati honevAlI hogI vaise hogI, aisA karanevAleke lakShyamen nahIn hotA.

gnAyakako grahaN karake pariNati apanI taraph AtI hai to gnAyakamen jo svabhAv hai vah use pragaT hotA hai. vah sahaj hai. usakA svabhAv pragaT hotA hai, svabhAvakI pariNati pragaT hotI hai.

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mumukShu- sahajakA artha aisA nahIn hai ki puruShArtha kiye binA prApta ho jAya.

samAdhAna- hAn, puruShArtha kiye binA prApta ho, aisA nahIn hai.

mumukShu- puruShArtha kare to sahaj hai.

samAdhAna- puruShArtha kare to sahaj hotA hai.

mumukShu- samyagdarshan pahale pAtratA pragaT karaneke liye bhI use apekShit puruShArtha karanA paDatA hai?

samAdhAna- hAn, puruShArtha karanA paDatA hai. bhAvanA kare, abhyAs kare. use aisI bhAvanA hue binA rahatI hI nahIn. jise apanI laganI lagatI hai, vibhAvamen jise sukh aur shAnti nahIn hai, use apanI or puruShArtha Aye binA rahatA hI nahIn. vah AtA hai. bhale yathArtha bAdamen ho, parantu bhAvanAmen use vah kAraN pragaT karaneke liye use bhAvanA AtI hI hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! pAtratAmen ashubhako TAlakar shubhake pariNAm use hote hain. usamen kartRutvabuddhi nahIn A jAtI?

samAdhAna- kartRutvabuddhi to main parapadArthakA kartA hUn. paradravyakA main kartA hUn, aisA Aye to kartRutvabuddhi hotI hai. vAstavik rIt-se kartRutvabuddhi kab chhUTatI hai? jab gnAyakatA pragaT ho, tab usakI kartAbuddhi chhUTatI hai. tab usakI kartRutvakI pariNati vAstavik rUp-se chhUTatI hai. jabatak gnAyakatA-sAkShI bhAv antaramen-se sahaj jo gnAtAkI-sAkShIkI dashA hai, vah dashA pragaT nahIn huyI hai tabatak use kartRutvakI pariNati khaDI hai. parantu vah buddhimen nakkI kare ki main parapadArthakA to kar nahIn sakatA. par padArthake dravya- guN-paryAyako main kar nahIn sakatA.

ab jo vibhAv hotA hai, vibhAvakI rAgakI pariNatimen main mere puruShArthakI mandatA- se juDatA hUn. us jAtake puruShArthako main badalUn, us prakArakI kartRutvabuddhi AtI hai. parantu vAstavikarUp-se kartAbuddhi abhI chhUTI nahIn hai. jise antaramen-se chhUTe use paradravyamen- se chhUTe, vibhAvamen-se bhI chhUTe, sab chhUT jAtA hai. vAstavik chhUTI nahIn hai, parantu sthUlabuddhi- se main parapadArthako kar nahIn sakatA, jaise honA hotA hai vaise hotA hai. andar apane pariNAmako palaTe usamen to puruShArthakA kartRutva Aye binA vah puruShArtha palaTatA nahIn.

lekin gnAyakadashAmen rAg merA svabhAv nahIn hai, isaliye main rAgako kar nahIn sakatA. aise usakI kartAbuddhi gnAyak dashAmen chhUT jAtI hai. main usakI utpatti kar nahIn sakatA hUn, parantu mere puruShArthakI mandatA-se vah hotA hai. usakI kartAbuddhi vAstavik rUp- se gnAtRutvamen chhUTatI hai. gnAyakadashA nahIn hai tabatak kartAbuddhi khaDI hI hai. jahAn bhI, shubh yA ashubhamen jahAn usakI pariNati jAy, vahAn har jagah usakI kartAbuddhi khaDI

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hai. jabatak gnAyakatA nahIn hai, tabatak kartAbuddhi khaDI hI hai.

mumukShu- kartAbuddhi ashubh pariNAmamen bhI hai aur shubh pariNAmamen bhI hai.

samAdhAna- donommen hai, donommen kartAbuddhi khaDI hai.

mumukShu- use samajhakar ashubhako TAlakar shubhake puruShArthamen AtmArthI jIv aisI pAtratA pragaT karanekA bhAv bhI lAtA hai?

samAdhAna- hAn, use bhAv AtA hai, Ate rahate hain. ashubhamen yA shubhamen donommen kartAbuddhi khaDI hai. ekamen khaDI hai use donommen khaDI hai. gnAyakatA ho, sahaj bhedagnAn dashA ho tab use aisA hotA hai ki ye jo pariNati hotI hai, vAstavik rUp-se svabhAv- se main usakA kartA nahIn hUn. ye rAg-dveShake pariNAm jo hote hain, vah hote hain. parantu vah samajhatA hai, mere puruShArthakI mandatA-se hotA hai. karmake udayakI jabarajastI-se yAnI mujhe jabaran karavAtA hai, aisA nahIn hai. vah jAnatA hai ki puruShArthakI mandatA-se hotA hai. parantu vAstavik rUp-se merI gnAyakatA chhUTakar us jAtakI usakI kartAbuddhi nahIn hotI. gnAyakatA usake sAth hI rahatI hai.

mumukShu- puruShArthakI mandatA bhI puruShArthapUrvak hai, aisA vah jAnatA hai.

samAdhAna- vah jAnatA hai. puruShArthakI mandatA hai.

mumukShu- us prakArakA UlaTA puruShArtha...

samAdhAna- UlaTA puruShArtha bhI usamen hai aisA samajhatA hai. bAkI jahAn sahaj nahIn hai, vahAn to sabamen kartAbuddhi khaDI hai. buddhipUrvak nakkI kare ki main usakA kartA nahIn hUn. par padArthakA kartA nahIn hUn, rAg-dveShakA vastu svabhAv-se main usakA kartA nahIn hUn, aisA buddhi-se nakkI kare, bAkI kartAbuddhi khaDI hai.

mumukShu- kartAbuddhi khaDI hai. buddhipUrvak aisA nakkI karatA hai phir bhI use samyagdarshan mokShamArga prApta karanA hai, isaliye ashubhako TAlakar shubhamen bhI AtA hai.

samAdhAna- shubhamen juDatA hai, AtmAkA lakShya karanekA prayatna karatA hai, aisA karatA hai. ... dashA pragaT ho, vastu anAdiananta sahaj hai. aur usakI gnAyakatA jo sahaj hai, vah sahajakI pariNati jab use svabhAvadashA pragaT ho, gnAyakatA ho tab kartAbuddhi chhUTI aisA kahanemen AtA hai. jab sahajatA pragaT ho, tab kartRutva chhUTA aisA kahanemen Aye.

andar sahaj dashA, sahaj gnAyak pariNati nahIn hai, tabatak kartAbuddhi chhUTI nahIn hai. phir use alpa puruShArthakI mandatAkI pariNati rahatI hai. gnAnIke liye aisA kahanemen AtA hai ki vah hotA hai, vah karatA nahIn hai, apitu hotA hai.

mumukShu- aur phir bhI vAstavik rUp-se dekhA jAy to utanI puruShArthakI mandatA

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hai, vah bhI apane-se huyI hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, karane-se huyI hai.

mumukShu- vah bhI gnAnamen sAth-sAth hai.

samAdhAna- gnAnamen jAnatA hai.

mumukShu- aur phir bhI vah sahaj hai, isaliye use AkulatA bhI nahIn hotI hai.

samAdhAna- AkulatA nahIn hotI.

mumukShu- us pahalUkA bhI use gnAn hai.

samAdhAna- apane svabhAvakI sahaj dashA khaDI rakhakar vah hotA hai. aur apanI mandatAke kAraN (hotA hai). ... usase svayam bhinna paD gayA hai isaliye main usakA kartA nahIn hUn. usakA chaitanyakA astitva jo hai, vah apanI pariNati-se bhinna kar diyA hai. main gnAyak hUn, aise apane sahaj svabhAvako bhinna kar diyA hai. ekatvabuddhi TUT gayI hai, isaliye main usakA kartA nahIn hUn, parantu vah hotA hai. merI mandatAke kAraN vah hotA hai.

merI gnAyakadashA sahaj hai, merI mandatAke kAraN yah hotA hai. merI gnAyak dashAkI nyUnatA hai aur puruShArthakI mandatA hai isaliye hotA hai. usake khyAlamen usakI mukhyatA rahatI hai. puruShArthakI pariNati uThe to sab chhUT jAy aisA hai. to antarakI dashA pragaT hokar sab vibhAv Tal jAy, aisA hai. puruShArthakI mandatAke kAraN hI vah khaDA hai. koI kAlalabdhi use rokatI hai yA dUsare koI samavAy use rokatA hai, koI use rokatA nahIn hai. apanI mandatAke kAraN vah sab khaDA hai, aisA vah barAbar jAnatA hai. parantu utanI svayamkI puruShArthakI Dor uThatI nahIn hai, aisA vah jAnatA hai.

amuk samay chakravartI gRuhasthAshramamen rahakar phir bhAvanA bhAkar muni hote hain. jab puruShArtha utpanna hotA hai tab sab chhUT jAtA hai. aisI pariNati hai ki kartA dikhe, phir bhI use gnAtA kahate hain. use hotA hai, hotA hai aisA kahate hain aur kartA nahIn hai. aisA kiyA, aisA bole. usakI bolanekI bhAShAmen aisA Aye. phir bhI kahate hain ki gnAtA hai. aisI kartA, gnAtAkI pariNati (hai).

(agnAnIko) to ekatvabuddhi hai isaliye vah karatA hI hai. vah chhoDakar baiThA ho to bhI use kartA kahanemen AtA hai. (gnAnI) gRuhasthAshramamen ho to bhI use gnAtA kahanemen AtA hai. samayasAramen AtA hai na ki, muni ho gayA, parantu andar kartAbuddhi khaDI hai to kartA hI hai. chhoDA to bhI kartA hai. (gnAnI) gRuhasthAshramamen hai to bhI gnAtA hai.