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samAdhAna- ruchi badale to upayog badale. ruchi ho to hI upayog bAhar jAtA ho vah (andar AtA hai). ruchi badalanI. sab asAr hai. sArabhUt tattva ho to ek chaitanya hI hai. sArabhUt tattvako grahaN karanekI ruchi utpanna ho to upayog palaTatA hai. ananta kAl-se sab kiyA hai bAharakA, parantu antaramen dRuShTi nahIn kI hai. antar dRuShTi kare, antarakI ruchi kare to hI upayog apanI or jAtA hai.

mumukShu- usake pahale sirpha pApamen paDe ho to kaShAyakI mandatA karanI, aisA hotA hai yA sIdhI ruchi palaT jAtI hai?

samAdhAna- ruchi palaTe to hI kaShAyakI mandatA hotI hai. kaShAyakI mandatA to bIchamen (ho jAtI hai). jise AtmA taraphakI ruchi ho, use tIvra kaShAy nahIn hote. usake kaShAy manda paD jAte hain. use jo andar AtmA taraph ruchi jAge, use sarva kaShAy, rAg-dveSh AkulatA sab phikA paD jAtA hai.

jise antarakI ruchi nahIn hai, vah bAhar-se kaShAy kadAchit manda kare yA yah achchhA nahIn hai, ye hitarUp nahIn hai, aise oghe oghe kare, kaShAy phike paDe aisA to jIvane ananta kAlamen bahut kiyA hai. shubhabhAv kiye hain. kaShAy phike kiye, tyAg kiyA, upavAs kiye, munipanA liyA. sab AtmAke lakShya vihIn bahut kriyAen kI, shubhabhAv kiye, sab kiyA, parantu vah sab binA ek ankake shUnya jaisA huA hai. kyonki AtmA kyA hai, us taraphakI ruchi binA kaShAy manda kare to use kahIn dharmakA lAbh yA svabhAv pragaT nahIn hotA. mAtra bandhatA hai, puNya-se devalok mile. to devalok-se kahIn bhavakA abhAv nahIn hotA. vaise devake bhav jIvane ananta kiye hain. usamen kahIn AtmA nahIn hai. devalokamen bhI AkulatA hai.

isaliye samajhe binA kaShAy manda karanA, (usase) puNyabandha hotA hai. usamen-se kahIn AtmAkI prApti nahIn hotI. AtmAkI prApti to svabhAvake lakShya-se main kaun hUn? merA kyA svarUp hai? dharma kahAn rahA hai? vah sab vichAr karake nirNay kare, antarakI ruchi kare to dharma hotA hai. bAharake kaShAy mAtra manda karane-se dharma hotA nahIn. aisA to jIvane ananta kAlamen kaShAy manda kiye, tyAg kiyA, sab bahut kiyA hai. isamen sukh

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nahIn hai, yah hit nahIn hai, yah dharma nahIn hai, aisA karake kaShAy phike kiye.

jise AtmAkI ruchi ho usake kaShAy sahaj hI phike paD jAte hain. jise AtmA hI ruchatA hai, dUsarA kuchh ruchatA nahIn, AtmA hI jise iShTa hai, use bAhya kaShAy sukharUp nahIn lagate. vah to use phik paD hI jAte hain. jo AtmArthI huA, jise AtmAkA prayojan hai use kaShAyommenn tIvratA nahIn rahatI, mandatA ho jAtI hai. vah usase pIchhe haT jAtA hai.

mumukShu- arthAt pahale-se hI gnAyakake lakShyakI shurUAt...?

samAdhAna- hAn, gnAyakake lakShya-se shurUAt hotI hai. vahI shurUAt hai. usamen sab samA jAtA hai. ruchi, kaShAyakI mandatA, sab usamen samA jAtA hai. gnAyakake lakShya- se shurUAt karanI hai. main kaun hUn? main tattva kaun hUn? us tattvakA nirNay karanA. vichAr karake usakA nirNay kare. gnAyakake lakShya binA ananta kAlamen bahut kuchh kiyA, parantu mUl tattva grahaN kiye binA binA ankake shUnya jaisA huA. kisake liye karatA hUn? chaitanyatattvakA astitva grahaN nahIn kiyA, mAtra shubhabhAv hue hain.

.. lakShya kare to antaramen Ananda bharA hai. ananta gnAn antaramen hai. svAnubhUti sab antaramen rahI hai. bhedagnAn kare. vikalpa TUTakar AtmA nirvikalpa tattva hai, usakI svAnubhUti antar dRuShTi karane-se hotI hai, bAhar-se nahIn hotA. bAhar-se sab kiyA. sab raT liyA, paDh liyA, samajhe binA dhyAn kiyA, sab kiyA. parantu AtmAkA astitva grahaN kiye binAkA vah sab mAtra shubhabhAvarUp huA.

mumukShu- bhedagnAn kaise karanA?

samAdhAna- bhedagnAn chaitanyako pahachAnane-se hotA hai. main yah chaitanya (hUn). apanA astitva grahaN kare ki main yah gnAyak gnAnasvarUp AtmA hUn. yah sab mujh-se bhinna hai. ye sharIr aur vibhAvabhAv jo antaramen bhAv hote hain, vah svabhAv bhI merA nahIn hai, main usase bhinna hUn. aise gnAyak, main chaitanya gnAyak hI hUn, aisA nirNay karake usakA astitva grahaN kare. phir usakA abhyAs kare. pahale to abhyAsarUp hotA hai. sahaj dashA to bAdamen hotI hai.

abhyAs kare ki main gnAyak hUn. gnAyakakI hI use mahimA Aye, bAkI sab mahimA chhUT jAya. gnAyakamen sab bharA hai. use anubhUtike pahale vah vedanamen nahIn AtA, parantu vah nirNay karatA hai ki gnAyakamen hI sab hai. gnAn-gnAyak padArtha pUrA mahimAvant hai. gnAyakakA abhyAs kare ki main sarvase bhinna, bhinna, bhinna aisA kShaN-kShaNamen usIkA abhyAs kare. to usamen use bhedagnAn hotA hai. usakA abhyAs kare. aur shubhabhAvamen sachche dev- guru aur shAstra use shubhabhAvanAmen hote hain. antaramen gnAyakakA bhedagnAn kaise ho? bArambAr

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gnAyakakA abhyAs kare. .. paradravyakA kyA? sab nakkI karake phir gnAyakakA abhyAs kare.

mumukShu- vastukA bandhAraN samajhanemen kuchh kShati rah jAy to gnAyakako pakaDanA mushkil paDe yA gnAyakake jhukAvamen vah kShati sudhar jAtI hai?

samAdhAna- usakI gnAnamen bhUl ho to ... parantu ruchi yadi use barAbar ho ki mujhe gnAyak hI grahaN karanA hai. vichAr karake bhI usakI gnAnamen bhUl ho to gnAnakI bhUl nikal jAtI hai, usakI ruchi yathArtha ho to.

mujhe chaitanya kyA padArtha hai, yah nakkI karanA hai. bAhar kahIn use ruchi lage nahIn, svabhAvakI hI ruchi lage. to vichAr karake gnAnamen bhUl ho to bhI nikal jAtI hai, yadi use yathArtha lagan lagI ho to. gnAnamen bhUl ho to nikal jAtI hai.

.. bAhar-se milegA, bAhar-se khojatA hai. antaramen sab hai. usakI use pratIti nahIn hai, ruchi nahIn hai, isaliye bAhar-se khojatA hai.

mumukShu- ...

samAdhAna- (kyA) padArtha hai, kyA vastu hai? kisamen dharma hai? kisamen gnAn hai? kisamen darshan hai? samyagdarshan kisamen hai? chAritra kisamen hai? sab nakkI kare. chAritra mAtra bAhar-se nahIn AtA. chAritra chaitanyake svabhAvamen hai.

mumukShu- chaitanyamen yadi ruchi ho to Age baDhe.

samAdhAna- to Age baDhe. gnAn, darshan, chAritra sab AtmAmen bharA hai. bAhar to mAtra shubhabhAv hote hain. vah to puNyabandhakA kAraN hai. andar svabhAvamen-se sab pragaT hotA hai, gnAn, darshan, chAritra Adi saba.

samAdhAna- .. ruchi lagAne jaisI hai, puruShArtha vah karane jaisA hai, sab karane jaisA hai. parantu svayam bAharamen ruk jAtA hai.

mumukShu- AtmA prApta karane-se jo Ananda ho, usakA shabdamen varNan ho sake aisA Ananda hai?

samAdhAna- shabdamen varNan nahIn hotA. AtmAkA svabhAvakA Ananda to anupam hai. use koI upamA lAgU nahIn paDatI, jagatake koI padArthakI. kyonki ye bAharakA hai vah to rAgamishrit jaD padArtha najar Ate hain. AtmAkA jo svabhAv chaitanyamUrti, usamen jo chaitanyakA Ananda hai aur chaitanyakA Ananda jo antaramen Ananda sAgar svata svabhAv hI usakA bharA hai. us par dRuShTi karake, usakA bhedagnAn vibhAv-se bhinna hokar, vikalpa chhUTakar andar jo nirvikalpa tattva pragaT ho, usakI koI upamA bAharamen nahIn hai. vah anupam hai. usakI koI upamA nahIn hai.

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jagat-se jAtyAntar alag hI Ananda hai. usakI jAt kisIke sAth milatI nahIn. koI devalokakA sukh yA chakravartIkA rAj yA kisIke sAth usakA mel nahIn hai. vah sab vibhAvik hai, sab rAgamishrit hai. jisake sAth rAg rahA hai, usake sAth mel nahIn hai. andar Uchchase Uchcha shubhabhAv ho to bhI vah shubhabhAv hai. shubhabhAvake sAth bhI usakA mel nahIn hai. shubhabhAv-se bhI bhinna shuddhAtmA hai.

manda kaShAy ho. main gnAn hUn, main darshan hUn, main chAritra hUn. pahale shurUAtamen vah sab vikalpa Ate haiain, Atma svabhAvako pahichAnaneke liye, to bhI vah vikalpa mishrit jo rAg hai, usake sAth AtmAke AnandakA mel nahIn hai. AtmAkA Ananda to usase alag hai.

mumukShu- apane-se tiryanchakA kuchh jyAdA puruShArtha hogA tabhI use anubhUti hotI hogI.

samAdhAna- us apekShA-se, anubhUti usane prApta kI us apekShA-se usakA puruShArtha jyAdA hai aisA kah sakate hain.

mumukShu- use to kShayopashamakA utanA ughAD bhI nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- ughADake sAth use sambandha nahIn hai. prayojanabhUt tattvako jAne isaliye AtmAkI svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. jyAdA shAstrakA gnAn ho yA jyAdA shAstra paDhe ho, usake sAth (sambandha nahIn hai).

.. AtmAkA svarUp main chaitanya padArtha, apane dravya-guN-paryAy aur parapadArthake, utanA mUl prayojanabhUt jAne to usamen svAnubhUti hotI hai. usakA bhedagnAn kare ki yah sharIr so main nahIn hUn, ye vibhAv shubhAshubhabhAv bhI merA svarUp nahIn hai. main usase bhinna, ananta guN-se bharapUr, ananta shaktiyon-se bharA Atmatattva hUn. aisA vikalpa nahIn, parantu aise apane astitvako grahaN karake usakA bhedagnAn kare. us bhedakI sahaj dashA pragaT karake andar vikalpa chhUTakar sthir ho jAy, usakI shraddhA-pratIt karake, gnAn karake usamen sthir ho jAy to use bhedagnAn nirvikalpa svAnubhUti hotI hai. usamen jyAdA shAstra abhyAsakI jarUrat nahIn hai.

vah to nahIn ho tabatak use shubhabhAvamen rahaneke liye visheSh gnAnakI nirmalatA ho, isaliye shAstrakA abhyAs kare. parantu jyAdA jAne to hI ho, aisA sambandha nahIn hai. use kShayopashamake sAth koI sambandha nahIn hai. use apanI antar pariNati palaTaneke liye prayojanabhUt tattvako jAne, usakI shraddhA kare aur usamen sthir ho to use hotA hai.

shivabhUti muni kuchh nahIn jAnate the. gurune kahA ki mAtuSh aur mAruSha. rAg-dveSh mat kara. vah shabda bhUl gaye. gurune kyA kahA thA vah shabda bhUl gaye. phir ek bAI

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dAl dho rahI thI. mere gurune yah kahA thA. ye chhilakA alag aur dAl alaga. vaise AtmA bhinna hai aur ye vibhAv bhinna hai. aise gurukA Ashay pakaDakar andar bhedagnAn karake antaramen sthir ho gaye to svAnubhUti to huyI, apitu itane Age baDh gaye ki unhen kevalagnAn pragaT ho gayA. mUl prayojanabhUt tattva jAne, isaliye Age nikal jAtA hai.

mumukShu- main talod hameshA jAtA hUn. ek bhAI kahate hain, sonagaDhamen kuchh nahIn hai. isaliye mainne kahA, chaliye sonagaDhamen. kyA hai, kyA nahIn hai. Ap kuchh batAIye ki sonagaDhamen kyA hai?

samAdhAna- sonagaDhamen gurudev barason tak rahe. gurudevakI pAvan bhUmi hai. gurudev jab virAjate the tab to kuchh alag hI thA. ye gurudevakI bhUmi hai. yahAn dev-guru- shAstrakA sAnnidhya hai. aur chaitanyako jo pahichAne, usakI ruchi kare to vah ruchi ho sake aisA hai.

mumukShu- yahAn anubhUti puruSh svayam hI virAjamAn hai. mAtAjI svayam hI hai. usase visheSh kyA hogA. log virodh karate hain, to vAstavamen use anubhUtikA jor nahIn hai, yah nakkI hotA hai.

samAdhAna- sabake bhAv svatantra hai. pratyek AtmA svatantra hai. sabake bhAv sabake pAsa.

mumukShu- .. aur paNDitonne..

samAdhAna- sab shiShyonne sunA hai, sabane svIkAr kiyA hai. sabane pramod-se svIkRut kiyA hai.

mumukShu- phUlachandajI ekabAr airoplenakI bAt karate the ki main airoplenamen baiThA thA. phir jab hilane lagA to mere pAs gurudevakA phoTo thA. mainne kasakar gurudevakA phoTo pakaD liyA, utanemen to plen ekadam sthir ho gayA. phUlachandajI svayam kahate the.

samAdhAna- jAt-jAtakA kahe.

mumukShu- jab gurudev yahAn virAjate the taba.

samAdhAna- hAn, virAjate the taba. prabhAvanA yog, gurudevakI vANI aur unakA gnAn aisA thA ki use dekhakar logonko Ashcharya hotA thA ki ye koI tIrthankarakA jIv hI hai. aisA hotA thA.

muumukShu- upAdAn-nimittakI bAt gurudevane jo antaramen-se prakAshit kI, vah bAt hI kahAn thI.

samAdhAna- kahAn thI. sab bAt spaShTa kI. upAdAn-nimitta, dravya, guN, paryAy,

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AtmA bhinna, dharma kriyA-se nahIn hai, dharma antaramen hai, shubhabhAv puNyabandha hai. andar shuddhAtmAmen pariNati pragaT hone-se dharma hotA hai. sab unhonne prakAshit kiyA hai. samayasArakA artha kaun samajhatA thA? ek-ek shabdakA artha karanevAlA kaun thA? koI bhI shAstra le, usake ek-ek shabdakA artha kholanevAlA thA kaun? koI khol nahIn sakatA thA.

abhI gurudevake pratAp-se sab shAstra paDhane lage. ek shabdakA artha kholakar, ek- ek shabdakA artha kholakar kitanA samay, usamen kitanA vistAr karate the. vah kisImen shakti nahIn hai. abhI koI paNDit aisA kar nahIn sakate hain. samayasAr yA adhyAtma shAstronko kaun jAnatA thA.

mumukShu- digambar to aisA samajhate the ki ham to janma-se hI samyagdRuShTi hai. phir to bAt hI kahAn rahI.

samAdhAna- janma-se ho sakatA hai? vADA mAtra kahIn samyagdarshan detA nahIn. samyagdarshan to AtmAmen pragaT hotA hai. ananta kAl-se jIvane.. kahate hain na ki panchamakAlamen tIrthankarakA jIv Aye to bhI mAne nahIn. ananta kAlamen samavasaraNamen-se jIv aise hI vApas AtA hai. samavasaraNamen bhagavAn mile to bhI svany apanI ichchhAnusAr pariNati pragaT karatA hai. sab svatantra hai.

mumukShu- gurudevane prakAshamen rakhA to yahI paNDit log chUn.. chUn.. karate the. yehI paNDit the. gurudevane tattva prakAshit kiyA tab bhI itanA hI uhApoh karate the. jahAn- tahAn pempaleT phenkate the. unake virUddhamen likhate the, aise hai, vaise hai, kitanA likhate the.

samAdhAna- svayamko sudharanA hai (aur) dUsareko sudhAranA hai. pahale apane AtmAkA kalyAN kare. dUsareko sudhAraneke liye mAnon koI mArga nahIn jAnate hain, ham hI jAnate hain. aisA un logonko ho gayA hai.

mumukShu- Apake AshIrvAd-se panch kalyANak bahut achchhI tarah ujavAye. sab tan-man-se aise juD jAy ki sonagaDhamen ronak ho jAya.

samAdhAna- sabakI bhAvanA hai, bhAvanA-se sab kiyA hai aur gurudevakA pratAp hai. samAdhAna- jIv vApas AtA hai. mAtra bAhya dRuShTi-se dekhatA hai. antar dRuShTi- se dekhA nahIn hai, bhagavAnako pahachAnA nahIn hai. tere AtmAmen hI sab hai. andar gaharAImen Utarakar dekha. samavasaraNamen jaise bhagavAn hon, vaise shAshvat nandIshvaramen shAshvat bhagavAn hain. kudaratakI rachanA aisI banI hai. paramANukI rachanA bhagavAnarUp ho gayI hai. jinendra devakI jagatamen aisI mahimA hai ki paramANu bhI jinendra devarUp pariNamit ho gaye hain, tIrthankararUp paramANu pariNamit ho jAte hain. ratnake rajakaN vaise pariNamit ho jAte hain.

.. shAstramen AtA hai na? bhagavAnake dravya-guN-paryAyako pahichAne to apane dravya-

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guN-paryAyako pahachAnatA hai. apane dravya-guN-paryAyako pahachAne to bhagavAnako pahichAnatA hai.

mumukShu- bhedagnAn kisase karanA?

samAdhAna- antaramen gnAn-se bhedagnAn karanA. shAstramen AtA hai, pragnA-se grahaN karanA, pragnA-se bhinna karanA, sab pragnA-se karanA. parantu vah pragnA kAm kab kare? antaramen svayamko utanI lage to ho. mAtra bolanerUp yA nakkI karanerUp yA vikalparUp ho to vah pragnA andar kAm nahIn karatI hai. parantu antaramen svayamko lagI ho ki bhinna hI paD jAnA hai. ekatvabuddhi merA svabhAv nahIn hai, ye ekatvabuddhi jUThI hai. main chaitanya bhinna- nyArA hI hUn. us nyAreko nyArArUp grahaN karanA hai. utanI antar-se laganI lage to usakI pragnA kAm kare. mAtra buddhi-se jAne to vah gnAn gnAnarUp pariNamatA nahIn.

gnAn gnAnarUp kArya kab kare? ki svayamko antaramen utanI apanI or AnekI tIkShNatA jAge ki ye chaitanya hI mahimArUp hai aur ye ekatvabuddhi aur ye vibhAv AkulatArUp hai, utanA yadi use antaramen ho to vah antaramen-se vApas muDe. parantu usakA sAdhan gnAn (hai). gnAn-se grahaN hotA hai, gnAn-se bhinna paDatA hai. sab gnAn-se hotA hai. parantu pariNati palaTe kab? antaramen svayamko utanI thakAn lagI ho, andar-se svayamko svabhAv grahaN karanekI utanI tamanna lagI ho to ho. nahIn to buddhi-se grahaN kar le ki main bhinna, yah bhinna. parantu usakA tIvra abhyAs kab ho? yadi svayamko lage to ho.